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Paul Ryan: "Do You Want Barack Obama To Be Reelected? Then Don't Vote For Ron Paul"

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It took a while for the unspoken truth to be finally spoken, but sooner or later, it always is. Via The Hill:

Paul Ryan argued Monday that a vote for a third-party candidate would likely help President Obama win reelection.

 

Ryan was asked why voters should not vote for Ron Paul. The Republican vice presidential candidate responded that a vote for Paul, who ran for the 2012 GOP nomination, would effectively split the vote in a way that helps Obama.

 

"Do you want Barack Obama to be reelected? Then don't vote for Ron Paul," Ryan said during a campaign speech in Lima, Ohio, on Monday.

 

Ryan went on to say that Paul was a good friend.

 

"Actually, Ron's a friend of mine. I know Ron very well. I like Ron quite a bit. There are many things that Ron has championed that I'm a big believer in, especially liberty and sound money."

 

Although Paul is no longer campaigning for president, he has not endorsed Mitt Romney's campaign.

What if one wants Ron Paul to be elected? Can one vote for Ron Paul then?

 

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Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:41 | 2829487 tradebot
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you do that dumb dumb...that horse ain"t even in the race...would hate wait in line behind you at the poles while you waste yours and my time...not to mention who gets to appoint the next supreme court judges...

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:47 | 2829532 MsCreant
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Your post is a waste of our time. Too bad you don't understand the concept of freedom. Good luck to you.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:52 | 2829559 Dr. Engali
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Supreme Court justice ? Wtf? I have three words .... Chief Justice Roberts.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:57 | 2829588 roadsnbridges
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Talk about Manchurians...

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:03 | 2829635 DollarMenu
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Kagan

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:23 | 2829743 Temporalist
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Isn't she the one that makes horses scream when you say her name out loud?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:57 | 2829864 Squid Vicious
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the whole Kagan clan is a despicable abomination... brother is a neocon-traitor, and then we were blessed with her on the Supreme Court !

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:14 | 2829695 CrockettAlmanac.com
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you do that dumb dumb...that horse ain"t even in the race...would hate wait in line behind you at the poles while you waste yours and my time...not to mention who gets to appoint the next supreme court judges...

 

I see you're losing the up/down vote in a landslide with that post. Just who is it that is wasting his time around here?

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 10:04 | 2831690 tradebot
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So if you've thrown in the towel...and you want more welfare and gay supreme court judges...why not get your bags packed and get out...I can see you're miserable with where you are now.  try N Korea...get your ass over there and lose some weight. 

You ain't gonna get Ron...it ain't happening.  I wish it were possible, but it ain't.  Get over it, we're stuck with Obummer if you don't get yur head out of your ass.  I thought you guys were smarter than this.  For me, on what few choices we have, I'd rather trade this devil I know for anyone else...hell, I'd rather have Hitlery than this nut case socialist, muzlim peckerwood.  So don't be duped into thinking your vote for RP would count for anything except the notion that your sister can stay fat on welfare for a bit longer.  If that's your motive, I understand where you're coming from.

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 10:14 | 2831751 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Get out of my country you fascist pig. How's that?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:20 | 2829731 Papasmurf
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So you pick Bashiba Butt as the lesser of evils instead of opting out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki8u8G2WZbI

 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:53 | 2829564 dbTX
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Your choice, but whether you think so or not, a vote for Ron Paul (one of my hero's) IS a vote for Obama, sad but true. Does the name Ross Perot ring a bell?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:18 | 2829720 CrockettAlmanac.com
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But Romney is no better than Obama so what's the point? When are you going to realize that you've been played?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:12 | 2829672 lasvegaspersona
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slaughterer

I gave Ron Paul over a grand. (and zip so far to Romney)  I believe Ron Paul is the only principled candidate  of the lot. Never-the-less...we lost that round. The cause of Liberty will continue but each must decide how to proceed with the facts as they are now. For me this means supporting Romney.

I have made myself a promise however: if the Repubilcans screw me (and the cause) once more I am completely done with them and will support only pro-liberty candidates. That will mean another national party though. The Libertarian Party is not credible. I will not give serious money to a Party without discipline and a serious long term strategy. I like to scream as much as the next guy but in politics one must be willing to play for blood and for the long term. I do not see the Ls doing that. 

Maybe they will change if they see that they have serious support but as things are now what politician would switch from having an R or a D after their names?

If the Rs give us the policies of Bush again then I will begin in 2014 to get together with other ex-Republicans and make some plans, elect solid down ballot candidates and plan for a real run in 2016. If Obama wins?...not sure yet...

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:08 | 2829904 DollarMenu
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They screwed you in 2008,

they screwed you in 2012,

I'm thinking you like the screwing.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 19:10 | 2830136 stormsailor
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i gave out a couple of k to ron paul.  he lost the nomination and now if i do not vote for romney that piece of festering dung will remain in the white house.

 

i believe when it gets down to crunch time ron paul will speak out to elect romney,  he is no fool and certainly knows the consequences of not supporting romney.

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 01:22 | 2830951 Libertarian777
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I completely disagree.

Ron Paul had an opportunity to speak at the RNC, he didn't even have to endorse Romney, he only had to have his speech 'vetted'.

He declined, he said "it wouldn't be my speech then".

Chances of him speaking out 'for' Romney are slim to none, except if Romney has an epiphany, comes to Jesus and asks Ron for forgiveness, then flip flops one last time on every position he has.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:27 | 2829402 Dr. Engali
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Sorry Mr. Ryan but I am writing Ron Paul's name in.

As a side note I wonder if the Obama troll who got all ticked off because Tyler posted the Obummer / Corzine billboard will acknowledge the fact that Tyler does indeed ridicule both parties.... Probably not.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:35 | 2829454 ATG
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Write-ins are not counted in a number of states.

Gary Johnson is on the ballot depite the worst efforts of the RNC MR camp:

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

Get to know him and buy puts...

 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:51 | 2829549 Dr. Engali
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I know Ron Paul's integrity and his voting history. I will vote for him because I want to send a message to Washington. Gary Johnson, I'm sure is a good man, but that's not the message I want to send.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:55 | 2829576 dbTX
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Chalk another one up for Obama.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:06 | 2829653 Dr. Engali
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Nope another vote for Ron Paul.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:23 | 2829745 CrockettAlmanac.com
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If one has no intention of voting for Romney and chooses to vote for Paul instead of not voting at all then how does that constitute chalking one up for Obama? Let's see the math.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 20:04 | 2830318 socalbeach
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(0 - 0) - (0 - 0) = 1.

 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:08 | 2829906 El
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<shrugs> Who cares? If we aren't going to elect a liberty candidate, then "frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:28 | 2829404 BLOTTO
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Votes dont work when the beast is controlling the whole fucking shit show.

 

Heads we lose,

Tails they win.

 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:10 | 2829673 exi1ed0ne
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You have no fucking clue how the electoral process works in the US, do you?  And that is before you even include fraud:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/rigvote.html

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:28 | 2829406 NRGIsFree
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I will never again vote for an establishment stooge.



The GOP should have thought about this prior to Shatting all over Paul supporters at the convention. I'm writing in Paul because there is Zero difference between Obozo and Mitten Head.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:41 | 2830017 FreedomGuy
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Romney is the chummy wing of the Republican party that just agrees to trade wins with Democrats but continue left.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:29 | 2829409 russwinter
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Gary Johnson is on the ballot in 49 states. A vote for him will actually be counted and he is running 6% when included in polls. That is in effect a defacto vote for Paul. 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:57 | 2829584 dbTX
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Actually that's a vote for Obama

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:05 | 2829643 Dr. Engali
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No that's a vote for Gary Johnson.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:16 | 2829705 Assetman
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That's pretending to be a vote for Ron Paul.

Are we there yet?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:49 | 2830045 jackinrichmond
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in canada, the third party often holds 'balance of power'.  which means their power is pivotal in many important voting issues.

this third party often holds enough voting power to swing important parlimentary issues, so the red-blue teams must appeal to them to endorse bills.   it ensures that 2 parties can not jam voters into the blue-red paradigm. 

it's far from a perfect system, but it does offer 'balance of power' to the third party, so it's supporters are important in parlimentary decisions.  interestingly, many important reforms were acheived by the third party even though they never held power.

 

...eh

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:29 | 2829412 tmosley
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Every vote for a republican or democrat is a vote for the status quo.  If you like the way the country is voting, vote for one of those parties.  If not, vote for Gary Johnson or Ron Paul.

Like they are going to count your stupid vote anyways.

Second thought, what if he was actually being totally literal, and every vote for Ron Paul is actually recorded as a vote for Obama?  Thanks Diebold.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:29 | 2829413 Row Well Number 41
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Well You got some choices:

 

A.  Red Dildo

B.  Blue Dildo

C.  Personal Integrity

Don't vote for the blue dildo, the red dildo looks so much better sticking out your ass.

#41

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:31 | 2829430 Pareto
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+1 for bringing dildos into the fold.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:00 | 2829605 RockyRacoon
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For the typical fat-assed American, that would be "folds".

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:12 | 2829688 MsCreant
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Ewwwwe! Hemorrhoids!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:31 | 2829417 ATG
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Ron Paul is not on the ballot.

Handyman Gary Johnson, small businessman with 1000 employees who endorsed RP and left NM with a billion dollar budget surplus after vetoing 750 spendthrift bills and not raising taxes as GOP Governor in state with 2:1 D registration, is.

Get to know him:

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:30 | 2829418 Pareto
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Settling, always harbors regrets later.  Its not a popularity contest.  Its a decision based on principle and when neither candidate offers any, then it seems there is a responsibility to indicate that through one's action at the voting booth.  At the very least it saves you from having to say to yourself later, "I can't believe I voted for that fucking idiot!"

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:51 | 2829550 MsCreant
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^^^THIS^^^

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:04 | 2829894 giddy
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There's a little game theory called Nash Equilibrium for which John Nash won a Nobel prize.  It proved that a zero-sum world isn't where the best outcomes are achieved for the most people.  Voting is not a zero-sum game. Seeing it that way means you will likely loose.  Each time. 

Living ones life in accordance with ones highest sense of good is the starting point.     

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:30 | 2829419 123dobryden
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hard to say, what to do, maybe ignoring this campaign, instead invest one's energy in hoarding gold, turning  people, making friends, fuck women, play fifa, grow...all seemed more productive than even read this article....

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:30 | 2829422 buzzsaw99
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like it matters. the usa loses either way.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:31 | 2829423 TN Jed
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Is there a down arrow in the voting booth?  I could pull that lever a few times.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:05 | 2829641 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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I was talking wtih a relatively non-politically active friend the other day who brought up a great idea: Include a "None of the Above" option on the ballot. Not just a write in or something like that, but an affirmative vote that would be the equivalent of a vote of no confidence.

If enough "None of the Above" votes are received, the current president would be out, and a new election with different candidates would be scheduled.

Of course, this would never happen in our two party dominated system, but when you think about the fact that only 44% of the population approves of the job Obama is doing, the implications could be awesome. Imagine if Obama got 44% of the vote, but also got a 50+% "no confidence" vote. That would be more powerful than Romney getting a big chunk. Like I said, extremely unlikely, but it would be interesting.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:28 | 2829767 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Nev. seeks hold in 'none of above' voting case

Mead Gruver

Nevada on Thursday asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco to put a hold on a lower court's order that would scrap the state's decades-old voting option of "none of the above."

 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2012/Aug/30/nev__seeks...

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:31 | 2829424 LawsofPhysics
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LMFAO!!!!   Paul Ryan stinks of fear.  Further confirmation of the truth.  There is only one party, for the banks and financial houses, by the banks and financial houses. 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:35 | 2829793 Redhotfill
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Yes he does, now release the hounds Smithers!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:25 | 2829961 Everybodys All ...
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Hate to nit pick but why would Ryan be fearful if one party rules already? One party rule is what we have coming when the media becomes part of the campaign for one side. I believe that is worth being scared don't you.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:31 | 2829425 tekhneek
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I think what he's saying is: "If you punch in Ron Paul on the Diebold machine it's going to get delegated to Barack Obama instead of Romney -- so don't do it!"

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:31 | 2829426 Relentless
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Fuck you Ryan. You and your neanderthal bedmates fucked RP and his supporters every chance you got. Go buy yourself a cheap wooden dildo and give yourself anal splinters.

 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:52 | 2829560 MsCreant
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These are hard times. Scrap lumber, a 2x4, should get the job done.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:32 | 2829428 thetruthseeker
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Paul Ryan, a believer in liberty, somebody please wake me because I must be dreaming.  I am so fed up with these neoconservatives who say that they believe in liberty and that they believe in following the Constitution, when pretty much every day they shit and piss on both.  Paul Ryan is nothing more than a career politician who just happens to have been picked by the red team instead of the blue team.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:33 | 2829438 roadsnbridges
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Horseshit.  Go ahead and vote for Ron Paul.  That's like 13% of ODumbshit's 2008 tally.

 

I hope the inference is obvious.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:32 | 2829439 crusty curmudgeon
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I know Ron Paul.  Ron Paul is a friend of mine.  Let me tell you, Congressman:  you're no Ron Paul.

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks ... It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.  Samuel Adams

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:32 | 2829442 gramps
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If the Republican party didn't disenfranchise half its base with the fraud and deception in the primaries they wouldn't have this problem... and Ron Paul would be the nominee.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:41 | 2829489 the not so migh...
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That is the truth.  Paul Ryan voted for every bailout he could with no accountability where the money went.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:59 | 2829597 ParkAveFlasher
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Here's an SAT analogy, Paul Ryan is to Ron Paul as Val Kilmer is to ...

A) Jim Morrison.

B) Leonardo Fibonacci.

C) Dick Boner.

D) Mickey Mouse.

Paul Ryan n'est pas Ron Paul.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:34 | 2829455 gold_tracker
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It's funny how we have gotten to a point where a vote doesn't really matter if you are unwilling to to vote for who the party tells you to vote.

 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:35 | 2829459 Perdogg
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Actually, a handful of Electors in Texas and Nevada are threatening to vote for Ron Paul if it doesn't affect the outcome of the elections.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:36 | 2829463 Everybodys All ...
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Vote for the Manchurian.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:39 | 2829475 roadsnbridges
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The Secretary of Energy is running?  Or do you mean that moron ambassador to China?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:44 | 2829504 Pure Evil
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Yes, but exactly which one?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:30 | 2829984 Everybodys All ...
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The One. The Big O. The eye candy. The you didn't build that. The don't blaspheme Mohamed the prophet of Islam. The empty suit. That one.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:37 | 2829469 ClaymoreStoor
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Can it not be possible that both are true? He who has the most votes wins.  Thefore, a vote for one guy (Ron Paul) could be because you want him to win but this would also lead to fewer votes for another candidate (Romney).  It seems like simple math and logic to me. 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:40 | 2829486 roadsnbridges
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He who has the most electoral votes wins.  Designed to keep Kalifornia from making Brown prez.

Moron.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:49 | 2829543 PlausibleDenial
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He who has the most electoral votes wins.  Your vote doesn't even count.  Just maybe with the Spanish turmoil Diebold will not be able to run those machines come November.  How fucked is this nation?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:06 | 2829651 RockyRacoon
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There's that "democracy" fallacy again.  Doesn't it just drive you to distraction that it's such a pervasive concept?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:49 | 2829545 PlausibleDenial
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He who has the most electoral votes wins.  Your vote doesn't even count.  Just maybe with the Spanish turmoil Diebold will not be able to run those machines come November.  How fucked is this nation?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:40 | 2829810 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Thefore, a vote for one guy (Ron Paul) could be because you want him to win but this would also lead to fewer votes for another candidate (Romney).  It seems like simple math and logic to me.

 

I will not vote for Romney under any circumstances. So Romeny will not get my vote whether I write in Paul or if I just don't vote. It is not logical to believe that my vote for Paul actually belongs to Romney and I'm somehow stealing Mitt's vote if I don't chose to pull the lever for him.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:41 | 2829484 Shameful
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And the difference between Mittens and Barry is?

I'm waiting for the party platforms to be more honest how they plan on screwing over the general population.  "My opponent wants to line you all up and shoot you in the back of the head with a 12 gauge shotgun.  I have a far more fiscally conservative plan, we will bash your brains out with hammers!  That is a job creation solution right there!"

It's the concept of a false choice writ large.  If the Soviet Union had run a second "opposition" party it could still be around now.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:44 | 2829503 roadsnbridges
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Mittens does not think everything you worked for, or owned is his?  Just a thought.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:56 | 2829579 Shameful
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lol really?  Seems he is just fine with Taxsachusetts and good old Romney care.  His record is God awful and he would sell his soul for a little bit of power.  Believe in him if you would like, maybe you were also a fan of that "compassionate conservative" Bush Jr.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:02 | 2829626 roadsnbridges
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Nice of you to ignore ODumbshit's record.  Got back to MediaMatters, where you belong.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:10 | 2829662 RockyRacoon
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Just because some nastiness is pointed out doesn't mean that a comment has an agenda.  Does everyone have to lay out an equal comment about the "other party" to satisfy your own bias?  Maybe you need to mosey on over to Fox News where you belong.  See?  Hurts, don't it?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:17 | 2829706 MsCreant
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Further, Shameful started his post by saying there was no difference. He is not ignoring Obama's record.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 19:09 | 2830132 RockyRacoon
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I'm heartened to see that folks are getting it.  That observation being based upon the down arrows of roadsnbrigesnshit.  Seems like too many (trolls?) are jumping on any slight favoritism/criticism for one party or another constitutes disapproval/advocacy of the other.  It ain't necessarily so.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:33 | 2829779 Papasmurf
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"roadsnbridges

"Mittens does not think everything you worked for, or owned is his?  Just a thought."

He's already demonstrated the opposite during his tenure at Bain Capital.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:40 | 2829485 bilejones
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The Republicans need to get badly thrashed every four years until they excrete the neocons.

If it take twenty years, so be it.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:45 | 2829513 roadsnbridges
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Ding ding ding!  So effing true.  Got a tree picked out for Christmas for Rove&Kristol to decorate.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:42 | 2829821 rustymason
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For those who don't know, neocons are Trotskyites from Eastern Europe with a soft  American conservative shell. Most of them happen to be Jewish. If you can, try to find the article from a few years back in the Christian Science Monitor about them. It is not mere coincidence that they have been in charge of our foreign policy and much of our domestic policy, and that the U.S. is being turned into USSR-2.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:41 | 2829488 JuliaS
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If you want change, vote Smith & Wesson.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:47 | 2829525 roadsnbridges
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Prefer Sturm & Ruger.  The Consitution seems not to apply anymore.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:45 | 2829838 Redhotfill
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I like Weatherby better  300 WbyMag keeps me further away

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:43 | 2829498 ultimate warrior
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Now that is a campaign strategy sure to win Romney/Ryan the White House. The GOP punched Ron Paul supporters in the gut then spit in our face. Now they reach out to shake our hand saying we're cool right brah?  They can go fuck themselves. 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:48 | 2829499 ebworthen
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Dear Paul Ryan,

This country has a real crisis, replacement referees in the NFL!

My God!  Next they'll have replacement flag wavers at NASCAR.

What has this nation come to!?!?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:43 | 2829500 Bicycle Repairman
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Romney hasn't a prayer of winning.  Make your vote count and write in Ron Paul.  Show the GOP  how big a mistake they made.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:58 | 2829587 MsCreant
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Now you're talking. Love it. 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:44 | 2829502 reader2010
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Kosher is that you don't vote.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:44 | 2829506 Sigep0612
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Again....why don't politicans give specifics when asked.....simply because no one wants to hear the truth. 

Ron Paul can't win.  Johnson can't win.  Truth. 

You may nto like to hear it but its a two horse race.   Ryan told the truth.   

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:48 | 2829538 the not so migh...
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Yeap , Pro bailout Black guy or pro bailout white guy.  No banker shall ever be arrested.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:55 | 2829571 LawsofPhysics
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The only thing that I have personally found essential to success and true wealth is somthing called integrity, go look it up before opening your mouth again.

You say "Ryan told the truth".  Ryan also says he is a conservative.  That is what he says.  What has Ryan done you ask?  Well, he went straight from college to the house and has voted for every single bailout and against any oversight for 15+ years.  Remind me, how is that conservative again?  

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:50 | 2830048 Red Heeler
Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:46 | 2829520 crusty curmudgeon
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Let's all vote and pretend we're making a difference.  Then we can have nothing to complain of because we willingly participated in the farce.

Better yet, let's not waste our vote by supporting someone we really believe in...better to vote for the same old tired parties because one of them will likely win.  A vote for Ron Paul or Gary Johnson would actually send a message but that's not important because they likely won't win. 

So let's all vote for the lesser of two evils...after all, don't you like hanging out with the lesser of two evils?  Hell, the lesser of two evils can come over to my house and sleep with my sister. 

"Vote left or right, sheep...both trails lead to the slaughterhouse." -your pal, Crusty

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:47 | 2829528 Karlus
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A vote for Bam is a vote for BenB. Print away. The quicker the currency collapses the quicker we can either be invaded or rebuild our govt...

 

Gold yee-haaaaw

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:47 | 2829530 kito
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PAUL RYAN THE CHAMPION OF LIBERTY AND SOUND MONEY, WHO VOTED FOR:

TARP
BAILOUTS OF GM/CHRYSLER

INCREASES IN THE DEBT CEILING
THE PATRIOT ACT
NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND

EXPANSION OF MEDICARE
NDAA

do i need to go on? remember this, WATCH THIS, KEEP THIS WITH YOU:.................

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FLrK9NmfM4

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:59 | 2829604 Shameful
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Paul Ryan is a Rhino, he knows the right rhetoric, but also knows that Republican voters cannot be bothered to look at a voting record.  Talk one game and do something else.  Least the Blue party is a little more honest with their desire to loot and pillage.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:48 | 2829534 TroyPDX
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Fuck em. The two party system is dead to me. I will never again throw my vote away by trying to divine which is the lesser of two evils. 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 19:39 | 2830243 Everybodys All ...
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The one party system is coming  because the news media has chosen this path for you because they know better. I'm guessing that will be a bit of a surprise for you and others. Prepare accordingly. It's happened before and history does predict it will happen again.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:48 | 2829535 chdwlch1
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"If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it."

Mark Twain

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:52 | 2829541 TheSilverJournal
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Barack or Romney, what's the difference?

Paul Ryan is the same too. He talks like he's pro capitalism but he acts like a socialist.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:49 | 2829544 stant
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i will be writing in ron

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:50 | 2829548 rustymason
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People vote for the lesser of two evils and are surprised when they get evil. Duh. Stop voting for evil. Vote for Ron Paul.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:52 | 2829556 Oro
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 Purchase,  Jan 14 leaps Ruger, S&W, GLD, and P&G but look at TRG 22 for target shooting.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:52 | 2829557 Sphinx_www
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To those who will write in Ron Paul. What do you hope to achieve? You could not win the primary, you think you will win the general? It is one thing to be sensational, but in practice all you are doing is putting the muslim communist back in the drivers seat. Which might be brave but stupid. Are you proud of being stupid? Please explain in a logical way your game plan.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:59 | 2829592 Seasmoke
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I want Ron Paul to be president but if that does not happen I want to see the collapse to happen on Obamas watch, this way Romney can't blame Obama.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:03 | 2829632 Sphinx_www
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And in the meantime you are planning to live where exactly? You will be in the middle of that collapse. You think you will still have your life untouched while all hell breaks lose around you?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:15 | 2829674 CCanuck
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@sheep wwww.....Collapse is a given....Obama means you get to it sooner.

If I was voting it would be Ron Paul.

Cc.

+10 Kito Well Stated!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:11 | 2829681 kito
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muslim communist?....can you be a member of this site and be that blind to bread and circuses?????.....keep worrying about birth certificates and religious orientation....and the sheep on the other side of the fence will worry about bain capital and tax returns....all the while BOTH SIDES are gutting your liberties and sucking the wealth out of its citizens and into the hands of their masters......BOTH SIDES working in perfect tandem.........keep grazing, sheep, keep grazing.............

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:28 | 2829769 kito
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silly me, hes been a member here only 4 weeks..explains everything.........

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:39 | 2830011 Moe Howard
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Kitco, I swear the Dog and the Farmer are working together....

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:42 | 2830022 kito
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yes moe, but im not kitCo, im kito.........this whole freudian metals thing on the mind is too much.............

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 20:34 | 2830429 Moe Howard
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Sorry, I keep switching webpages to check kitco current ag and au prices. Don't want to miss a trick.

It won't happen again, kito.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:18 | 2829716 SilverFish
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......... and you think that by voting for Mittens Romney, its gonna change anything? LOL  Have you lived under a rock your whole life, or do you just suffer from cognitive dissonance and refuse accept the reality that the republicans, in general, are NOT the party of small government?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:25 | 2829754 Overfed
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That collapse is coming, whether Ro-money or O'bomb-a is "in charge." Probably at the same speed. Ro-money ain't turnin' shit around, dude.

If you're from his campaign, please tell him and Paul Ryan to fuck themselves.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:36 | 2829802 El
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No, my life will not remain untouched. All of us will be touched by what happens. It will be terrible... but as they say... things that cannot go on indefinitely won't. Change can be painful, but in the end maybe this country will be cured of this cancerous tumor called the United States Government, instead of continuing to slap bandaids over it while it grows progressively worse. If you and others like you really cared, you would have banded together to support a liberty candidate. That you didn't and continue to support the status quo speaks volumes. G'luck w/that.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:46 | 2829834 TWSceptic
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To those who will vote Romney. What do you hope to achieve? He could not convince the liberty movement in primary, you think he will be pro-liberty after the elections? It is one thing to be sensational, but in practice all you are doing is putting the two party system back in the drivers seat. Which might be brave but stupid. Are you proud of being stupid? Please explain in a logical way your game plan.

 

There fixed.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:51 | 2830058 Red Heeler
Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:52 | 2829558 HungryPorkChop
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The Repub's really messed up by doing everything possible to discredit Ron Paul during this election process. The Mitt & Paul Ryan ticket is not brining in the independent votes.  In the end, the independent voters are what makes or breaks the presidental candidate.

 

 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:56 | 2829578 the not so migh...
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Smart independents would not vote for Rommeny or Obamazoid.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:01 | 2829622 Sphinx_www
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So smart independants would let stupid bums on the take vote in their communist pimp. I see. The ron paul people have become kamekaze pilots themselves. Very much like ben. You ran out of tools so you will just crash the elections and the worst guy will win. Great job.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:03 | 2829634 Dr. Engali
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In choosing between the lesser of two evils you are still choosing evil.... No thank you. Ron Paul 2012

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:06 | 2829652 Sphinx_www
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You are six months late. Faceit. RON PAUL WILL NO WAY WIN 2012. FACE IT!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:11 | 2829677 Dr. Engali
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I don't think you get it.... It's not about winning. It's the message.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:14 | 2829694 Sphinx_www
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You dont get it. 4 more years of that shit and the US will be a 3 rd world country. You might not get any more elections when obama and his doj and his media get a hold of you for the final 4 years with no one to answer to.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:22 | 2829733 Dr. Engali
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Yes .. Yes I do get it. I know who Obama is and what his intentions are. There is nothing that will stop the fall into a third world nation now. Both parties have sold their souls for 30 pieces of fiat. I will not participate in that game any longer.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:45 | 2830030 kito
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doc, dont bother.......how this lost sheep wandered on to this site is beyond me........

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:31 | 2829782 El
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Sadly, despite all evidence to the contrary, you still somehow believe that Romney and his administration will be different. He won't. I will not vote for Romney or Obama.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:25 | 2829753 Manipuflation
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@sphinx  Because of your comments I am now not going to vote at all which of course is somehow the same as voting for obama.  Therefore you have effectively just cast a vote for obama and have nullified your presumed romney vote.  Great Job.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:59 | 2829876 Sphinx_www
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It is not my fault you are stupid

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:51 | 2830052 CaptainObvious
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You are a completely delusional asshole.  I can vote for whomever I choose.  I am choosing to write in Ron Paul.  So if Mittens loses, it's all MY fault because I didn't vote for him?  No, no it's not, asswipe.  It's Mittens' own fault for being such a lame candidate, and it's the RNC's fault for invalidating the primary process, and it's the RNC's fault for having not even a whisper of liberty in their platform.  They actively chased away the votes. 

In writing in Ron Paul, I'm not voting for a candidate per se; I'm voting for liberty, personal responsibility, and financial sanity.  Has Mittens or Obama suddenly started believing in any of those concepts?  No?  So neither one gets my vote, fuckwit. And I accept none of the blame for the nation crashing, as it will, no matter which one wins.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 21:19 | 2830558 Pareto
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+2! for "No? So neither one gets my vote, fuckwit"...still laughing

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:57 | 2829589 DeadOnArrival
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Voted Ross Perot...will never regret it.  Voted Bush Jr. and McCain...will always regret it.  Now it's either Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, and Liberterian down the line going forward...no regrets!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 16:59 | 2829601 Hobbleknee
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I wrote in Ron Paul in the last election, and I'll be doing the same in the next.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:16 | 2829656 toomanyfakecons...
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"Paul Ryan argued Monday that a vote for a third-party candidate would likely help President Obama win reelection."

 

What third-party are they referring to? Last time I checked, Ron Paul was a member of the Republican party, you know... that shit-and-piss, warfare-welfare party he should have dumped a long time ago. If I voted, I would not vote for Rom Paul based on his sticking with the GOP until the bitter end.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 19:34 | 2830222 Cathartes Aura
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. . . the truth hides in plain sight. . .

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:08 | 2829658 rustymason
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If the old establishment politicians and the Red- and BlueTeam cheerleaders in the MSM don't like Ron Paul, that's a ringing endorsement for him right there. Sean Insanity HATES Ron Paul with a white-hot passion. I've never seen Sean treat anyone as viciously as he treated Ron.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:09 | 2829667 Dr. Engali
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The post is 45 minutes old with 177 comments and nobody said it yet do I might as well........ Gold bitchez!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:52 | 2830063 CaptainObvious
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Ultrasound it before you buy, bitchez!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:12 | 2829686 TideFighter
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Punxsutawney Phil said four more years of winter. That means one of the candidates will win.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:12 | 2829687 SilverFish
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Voting for the lesser of two douche-bags still gets you douchebaggery. If you keep voting for republicans like Mittens, they will always give you nothing but guys like Mittens. Why would they change when you just vote for them no matter what?

 

 

Since RP is out, its Gary Johnson for me.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:34 | 2829792 Diesel Seven
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I agree entirely, but doesn't your inner sensitive side want a guy named Mittens as president. (Ok, I have cat named Mittens for God's sake--we'd just need a VP named Buttons and we'd be REALLY bad ass (until somebody opened their mouth to speak).

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:14 | 2829701 dwdollar
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Wake me up when you dumb shits finally give up on voting and want to something more substantial.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:40 | 2829815 Manipuflation
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How about combining voting with the NFL somehow since that all I have heard about all day.  There was likely some bailout bill passed and/or EO edict done today that we won't hear about because of the lingerie football league and the two knucklefucks near constant barrage of media faux pas.

+1 dw

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 19:37 | 2830234 Cathartes Aura
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heheh, +1 for each of you - little corner of sanity amidst the cheerleaders. . .

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:03 | 2829888 Redhotfill
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Lead and Brass bitchez!

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