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Israel Shoots Down Unidentified Drone Over Its Airspace
Just because the middle east did not have enough countries and/or terrorist organizations shooting at random things, in outright attempts of provocation or otherwise, here comes Israel to join the party. From Reuters: "The Israeli air force shot down a drone after it crossed into southern Israel on Saturday, the military said, but it remained unclear where the aircraft came from. "An unmanned aerial vehicle was identified penetrating Israeli air space this morning, and was intercepted by the Israeli Air Force at approximately 10 a.m. (0700 GMT)," the military said in a brief statement. Soldiers were searching the area where the drone was downed - in the northern part of the Negev desert - to locate and identify the drone, the statement said. The Negev desert is near Israel's southern borders with the Gaza Strip, Egypt, Jordan and the occupied West Bank."
Drones... drones... which middle east country has a vibrant and advanced avionics industry. Must be Egypt, or no, Jordan, actually make that Syria or even Iran. Good thing it can never be Uncle Sam. Things might get just a little odd in that case.
All joking aside, though, it was only a week ago that Iran unveiled its first drone, potentially after reverse engineering the US RJ-170 that crashed on its territory back in December. From Al Jazeera:
Iran's Revolutionary Guards have unveiled a home-built long-range drone capable of reaching most of the Middle East, including the Islamic state's primary regional enemy Israel, state television has reported.
The reconnaissance drone, named Shahed 129, has a range of 2,000 km and is capable of carrying bombs and missiles, state television said.
Amir Ali Hajizadeh, the head of the Revolutionary Guards' aerospace arm, spoke during an interview on Tuesday on Iran's state TV.
Hajizadeh said that Iranian scientists designed and developed the drone.
His description of the aircraft was similar to that of the United States' RQ-170 Sentinel unmanned reconnaissance aircraft, one of which went down in Iranian territory last year.
So let's see:
- US drone mysteriously crashes in Iran in one piece
- Iran's engineers reverse engineer and create their own drone industry
- So far unidentifed drone has just been shot down by Israel
What are the Intrade odds of Israel claiming in a few hours it was an Iran drone, and the overflight was a provocation and merits immediate retaliation? One thing we know: odds will be much higher in a few days when CVN-74 and LHA-5 reach their destination.
In the meantime, this blast from the past:
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Yes. Good luck maintaining your friendship with a mad dog. Didn't work out real well for the USS Liberty and the scores of US intelligence assets outed and killed when Israel sold the intelligence stolen by Pollard to the Russians, but you never know.
Yes.
Thanks for telling the truth...I always expect nothing less from you ;-)
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Here is a man who would not compromise himself for an agenda...you pukes could learn a thing or two from this...but you won't.
Why should they? Whether or not it is true it certainly is in Israel's interest that everone beleives it to be true.
Did the US really need 10,000 warheads during the cold war? What did the US leadership want the world to think would happen if the US was attacked with nukes and utterly obliterated?
I understand Israel's position. I'm not sure threatening the annihilation of Europe will stop the Arabs.
The US made it plain that it would obliterate the USSR and China, and not Europe or Israel.
So you agree that silence was assent?
I honestly don'y know.
If several thousand nukes were exchanged during the cold war, there would have been consequences for everyone on the planet everywhere.
Here's over 50 more you may want to explain.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/palestinians.php
...and as for this hateful bitch, I believe she speaks for a lot of Israelis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiijlI9bq4E&feature=player_embedded
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US war corporations needed to manufacture 10,000 warheads, and all the other war toys that make the boys enlist with pride, for honour, and national corporate profit.
the "nuke deterrent" story is a good one, but close examination of current reality adds to the narrative exponentially. . .
Fuck you and the pig you rode in on.
"Fuck you and the pig you rode in on."
Hopefully, in that order.
Well you see, this wouldn't even be a topic of discussion or a point of concern today in Israel, if the State of Israel were not breeding and brainwashing successive generations of discriminatory racist aggressive fascist zionist land-stealing mass-murdering inconsolable uber-arseholes.
Just a little perspective for you insane zionist dickwads to mull over before you finish committing national suicide and possibly racial suicide as well.
US drone mysteriously crashes in Iran in one piece
More like IT WAS HACKED with the help of China/Russia to make it land safely in Iran.
I doubt that it had any Russian built components in it. That may help narrow the field.
Maybe it was Romney campaign drone sniffing around for more $ from Israel?
"Maybe it was Romney . . . . "
Maybe it was these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrC2pFaaR70
Good video, but he is basically advocating voting for Obama without saying it directly. Not a lot of people will write in Ron Paul, or vote for Gary Johnson.
Even more bullish!
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/10/03/241644.html
Leaks confirm death of top Russian general in SyriaContrary to an official denial on Moscow’s behalf, leaked documents aired by Al Arabiya suggest that a Russian military general who worked as a military advisor to the Syrian regime was indeed killed by opposition forces on Aug.
Maj. Gen. Vladimir Kojève was reportedly killed when opposition Free Syrian Army raided his car. Following his death, a number of documents were obtained from his personal briefcase which was found inside his vehicle.
CIA-backed terrorists killing Russian generals... yeah very bullish!
If the Russian know who did it, then they will get a visit from some very hard core customers. Way back in the Lebanon Civil war, certain groups began to kidnap and kill Russian embassy staff and other private Russian parties in lebanon. This all ceased VERY quickly, a few relatives of those who did the kidnapping and killing were found all messed up and dead on these people's front doorsteps. Russian secret service decided it was better to target relatives than the actual killers and this tends to work better. Fighters are often prepared to die, but they are not prepared to see thier families die! Russia played hardball, and it worked. Not saying it was right, but that's how Russia roles sometimes.
In Russia, no one cares if you scream.
I agree with Jack, if the Syrian rebels killed a Russian military official, they are about to take a beating.
Canada’s Involvement with Israeli drone companies.
http://wanderingraven.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/canadas-involvement-with-...
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Canada has many connections with Israeli drone companies, which are particularly problematic because Israeli’s drone companies are all intimately involved in the ongoing illegal occupation of Palestine by the Israeli state. All of them have numerous worldwide investments, and use foreign suppliers (including Canadian ones) to create the drones that they sell worldwide based their ‘conflict tested’ status.
Presently Canada is considering purchasing drones for the military. This is being evaluated in a programme called Project JUSTAS. As Project JUSTAS nears completion it is worth examining the relationships that Canada and Canadian companies have with the Israeli drones industry.
Rented Heron drones for Afghanistan through Macdonald DettwilerAssociates
Perhaps the most explicit relationship between Canada and Israeli drone companies has been the rental of Heron drones for surveillance purposes by Canadian Forces operating in Afghanistan. Canada rented Heron drones for surveillance purposes and returned them recently when they were no longer required.
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Macdonald Dettwiler Associates.
very interesting link, very ahead of their times ^^, worth spending a few minutes, and brain cells, perusing. . .
Turkey returns fire after new Syrian shelling
http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-returns-fire-syrian-shelling-114527634.html...
USA will go postal once a foreign drone appears above NY.
Bet they can't handle that; they are still in mental hospital because of those 10 guys with box cutters
nano-thermite tipped boxcutters! (get your facts straight)...
Bad francis. Write 1000 times "Only the narrative matters."
Before you go home.
mmmmmmm. . . meme-orisation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorization
Brilliant comment "Troy Ounce". I never thought of it that way, but once you mention it, I do believe this entire nation checked into a mental hospital after 9/11! And we are still in there. Nothing we do makes any sense!
In Pakistan we use drones for targeted killing which more often than not kill civilians. The locals can hear people trapped in the bomb rubble screaming, including children, but no one dares approach and rescue the victims, because the USA drones target anyone who trys to resuce the trapped. This is a fact, Pakistani locals claim there are now more radical Islamists than there were before the drone war kicked off. I wonder why? Young men see and hear this and grow up to want revenge. Target rescuers? To me that is the definition of Terrorist!
Mmmmmmm - thorazine drip.
Jack the immorality of this is astounding. It's hard to believe -- we have hit a new low.
When TPTB wage all-out drone warfare against Middle America, they will need to outsource the pilots. There will be plenty of eager drone jockeys in Pakistan. Divide and conquer.
The US certainly went postal when a drone crashed into the pentagon. /sarc, sorta.
I love it. After years of Israel "false flag" ops against the US, here is an Iranian "false flag" op against Israel, which points the finger at the US.
What goes around, comes around.
Benjamin Netanyahu on Israel's Secret:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAHE9bGbaY0
"The secret is we have America"
This buffoon does blurt out the truth occassionally, doesn't he?
the not so secret secret is amrka & isn't-real are both pwnd. . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo_American_plc#History
just look at the coincidental names & concepts. . . all hiding in plain sight, if one can see.
Iran's UAV program was launched in the wake of the 1980-88 war with Iraq. Iran had also been investing in several families of attack and multirole UAV. Over the years, Iranian officials reported the deployment of target drones and such UAVs as the Mohajer-3 (also called Hodhod or "a hooded bird") and the Mohajer-4.
Early models of the Mohajer were reportedly used during the late 1990s on reconnaissance missions into Afghanistan during their civil war, and were also tested during the 1990s as aerial weapons platforms using the RPG-7 series of rocket propelled grenade launcher.
The Mohajer-4 underwent a test flight on 16 February 2002. The Saeqeh UAV was tested at the same time. Minister of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics, Ali Shamkhani, said that Iran was one of the few countries to have the knowledge for designing and building UAVs.
On 7 November 2004, Hezbollah, an Islamic militant organization with close ties to Iran, flew a Mohajer-4 over northern Israel for approximately 5 minutes. The UAV entered Israeli airspace at more than 100 knots and an altitude of about 1,000 feet. After briefly flying over the seaside city of Nahariya, the UAV fell into the sea as it returned to Lebanon. An embarassment for the Israeli government, the overflight proved to be a symbolic success for Hezbollah, which claimed the flight to be an appropriate response to Israeli incursions over Lebanon.
The prominent London-based Arab daily newspaper, Ash-Sharq Al- Awsat, quoted an unnamed senior officer with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards as saying Iran has sold 8 Mohajer-4s to Hezbollah.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/mohajer.htm
Anyone can make them. Anyone can smuggle them. Anyone can launch them.
So that narrows it down.
Yep, how hard is it to make a drone in the year 2012? You can put a micro chip in it with the capacity to do most anything.
Not very hard. http://www.diydrones.com/
Not hard considering the first use of drones was in WWII by the Germans.
Not talking V 1's here,radio contolled anti ship missiles with a rudimentary TV system.
Launched from Condor aircraft at convoy escorts.Primitive but effective.
It was a US drone. The USS John C. Stennis and others are preparing for military action against the Zionist "entity" in Palestine. His Excellency President Barack Hussein Obama (PBUH) has declared that an attack against the Ummah is an attack on Him personally and will bring down the wrath of Allah upon unbelievers.
Bullshit.
It is highly unlikely this drone was flown from Iran.
Command and control of the aircraft would be a bitch for them from that distance without their own satellites, or radio control facilities close by. Tehran is about 1000 miles away.
Also consider that it is damn near impossible to fly anything between Israel and Iran and not be picked up by the X-Band early warning radar installation operating atop Mount Keren in the Negev. It is the same radar the U.S. uses in the missile defense shield. There are a couple hundred U.S. service members working at this facility.
The X-Band radar, made by Raytheon, is also known as the Army Navy Transportable Surveillance Radar (AN/TPY-2). 2,900 range. The system can detect objects the size of a softball thrown in the air at over 1700 miles.
No. They know exactly where this aircraft originated.
Things do not just appear in Israeli airspace. Especially over the Negev.
Israel claims the drone came from Gaza as part of a military exercise there. Israeli jets downed it over a forested area? Israel says it is a Hamas drone and are blaming Iran too, saying the drone flight was coordinated with Iran? Gee! Big surprise. Iran did it!
They get on the wrong side of bed : IRAN DID IT!!
next chapter in the meta-narrative: Iran did it!
getting closer to the dramatic ending?
Pesci...going owl postal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V67T42RVS6I
US Army.....firing everything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiiGWNMJjgU
In the immortal words of George S. Patton;
"Commence firing....fire at will"
"Which one is Will?" - Curley Howard
Will I.M.
ok, it's a drone that can fly, but can this drone make a good falafel.....om nom nom.
do drones have IFF like manned aircraft?
could it have been one of their own...a case of the right hand not telling the left what it was doing?
or maybe it was a CIA drone, just in the neighborhood so they figured they would swing by and see what's up.
of course, there is always the Iranians, Russians, Egyptians, Chinese ect. ect.
oh, the possibilities.
The Film That Exposed Israel's Secret Illegal Nuclear Weapons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTwZ-kIi8LI&feature=related
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More false flag BS just like the AL CIA DA mortars landing in Turkey, fired from rebel controlled areas and being blamed on Syria.
These azzholes think we're all stupid.
Hitler was a failure. The "final solution" was the creation of the State of Israel, whereby all jews were encouraged to go to one place where nature (middle east nature) would take its course.
Zerohedge, where people who don't like reality simply create their own.
ahhh, the relativity of reality. . .
those who refuse to create their own reality
rent space in someone else's, that could be
partially true.
Forget the Stennis and the Peleliu. When the Hospital Ships arrive in the vicinity we are close.
In the mean time I will put an empty chair in my yard as a campaign sign just in case October Surprise doesnt result in cancelled election in November
LOL. I like that idea - empty chair as campaign sign.
Am giving empty chairs to my left fringe relatives and friends and asking them to support Obama.
Maybe reverse psychology will work.
My regular friends get it. They are all putting chairs out locally. Its awesome.
going to party tomorrow with pickup truck full of chairs to be given away as yard signs.
Will see whar happens. Muhahaha!
did you say CoG?
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/continuity_of_g...
Didnt think that far thru but you obviously did. Thanks.
Marine friend tells me they are all being trained as crowd control MP's. Warn, shout, push, shoot!
Local Sheriff SWAT group massively expanded, trained in crowd control.
Dont put anything past these despots
nm
Dood, the plans are prolly on pastebin....
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IRAN? Hey, you didn't build that.
This was a misunderstanding. Some Palestinian aid-worker had asked for access to the river so he could collect some water to give the refugee kids and the IDF told him "go fly a kite."
Things went downhill from there.
I read this site, like most, for economic issues. Every once in a whele something like htis comes up and I'm reminded, again, of what an anti-Semitic swamp this is. Grow up, halfwits.
Am Israel Chay.
Another Pandora's box opened thanks to your government and the CIA. Now any pissant dictator and war lord can have his own fleet of drones. The technology is pretty sophisticated, but it certainly is cheaper than Aircraft Carriers, Tomahawks and F-18 Hornets.
US Warns Americans Not to Attend Pakistan’s Anti-Drone Rally
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/10/05/us-warns-americans-not-to-attend-pakistans-anti-drone-rally/
Israel doesn't fly drones over Iranian airspace, I'm pretty sure...right?
It shows how misguided is the trust in drones.
Drones are very good at blowing up peasant huts, but when they face serious oposition, they are useless.
Israel probably has a nuke aimed at Washington.
And Berlin. And Moscow. And Brussels. And Paris. Etc...
If Iran is a threat and we must attack it preemptively, Israel should be nuked preemptively using the same logic.
Among other things the Dimona reactor complex is in the Northern Negev. Interesting that they would enter the airspace in bright sunshine ... that smells a bit fishy.
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And this is pretty clear, Iran wants accurate site targeting data:
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The more that the US/NATO alliance, and also Israel incites Teheran now the less and less effective it's likely to be at deterring Iran from military action, or in causing them to 'comply' (but then again, the US policy to Japan before Pearl Harbour was not designed to deter Japan either, it was designed to force an attack, or a surrender).
The coercive economic and diplomatic strategy of the US Treasury and State Depts have basically collapsed into failure. Iran will not do anything the US wants from here on but it is prepared to do things that Washington and the Pentagon should not want to occur.
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The Pentagon and White House can't get away with claiming this time, that they were not forewarned that their economic sanctions policy was leading to an attack, and a damaging major war being triggered that can cripple the global economy and start WWIII.