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Guest Post: Iran’s Insane Rhetoric
Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics
Iran’s Insane Rhetoric
Iranian officials are once again firing off belligerent rhetoric.
Hojjat al-Eslam Ali Shirazi, the representative of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to the Islamic Republic’s Qods Force, said this week that Iran needed just “24 hours and an excuse” to destroy Israel.
In his first public interview in a year, reported in the Persian-language Jahan News, which is close to the regime, Shirazi said if Israel attacked Iran, the Islamic Republic would be able to turn the conflict into a war of attrition that would lead to Israel’s destruction.
“If such a war does happen, it would not be a long war, and it would benefit the entire Islamic umma the global community of Muslims. We have expertise in fighting wars of attrition and Israel cannot fight a war of attrition,” Shirazi said, referring to Iran’s eight-year war of attrition against Iraq.
Such claims are — more or less — inconsequential rubbish. The fact remains that Israel has nuclear weapons and a nuclear second strike, and Iran has no such thing, and the fact remains that the Iranian leadership knows this and are extremely unlikely to start a war where Iran (as Shimon Peres put it) will be the one wiped off the face of the Earth by Israeli plutonium. Yet the facts of military science will do little to stop the hawks of the West sounding off that Iran is irrational and that Iran is cooking up a plan to destroy Israel, and so must face regime change.
To grasp what is really occurring here we must look at how authoritarian Middle Eastern regimes (or, indeed, authoritarian regimes in general) function. Authoritarian regimes must maintain a cloak of authority. Tyrants do not attempt to look or sound weak; they try to project an aura of invincibility and indefatigability. We saw this during the last Gulf War, where Iraq’s information minister Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf — nicknamed Baghdad Bob in the American media — shot off hundreds of absurd statements during the war about how Iraqi troops were crushing the Americans, quite in contrast to the facts on the ground and right up until American tanks were rolling through the streets of Baghdad.
Baghdad Bob was not deluded. He was merely playing his role, and trying to project an aura of regime invincibility — providing propaganda for domestic consumption to keep the Iraqi population loyal to Saddam Hussein. It was a dog and pony show.
Iran’s belligerent rhetoric in this case is also strictly for domestic consumption — fierce rhetoric to keep the Iranian population fearful of the regime. Just like Baghdad Bob, the Iranian propaganda is far-removed from the real facts of the conflict. Whether the Iranian people really believe the regime’s propaganda — especially as the Iranian economy continues to worsen under sanctions — is dubious.
Yet one group of people — the Western neoconservatives, who are looking for another war — are more than happy to buy into the dog and pony “destroy Israel” bullshit.
As Robert Gates noted this week:
Painting a picture of internal political dysfunction in a dangerous world, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates warned Wednesday night that a U.S. or Israeli attack on Iran would have disastrous consequences.
Neither the United States nor Israel is capable of wiping out Iran’s nuclear capability, he said, and “such an attack would make a nuclear-armed Iran inevitable. They would just bury the program deeper and make it more covert.”
Iran could respond by disrupting world oil traffic and launching a wave of terrorism across the region, Gates said.
“The results of an American or Israeli military strike on Iran could, in my view, prove catastrophic, haunting us for generations in that part of the world.”
A regional war in the Middle East could result, potentially sucking in the United States and Eurasian powers like China, Pakistan and Russia. China and Pakistan have both hinted that they could defend Iran if Iran were attacked — and for good reason, as Iran supplies significant quantities of energy.
Frustratingly, the Iranian regime keep giving the neoconservatives more rope with which to hang themselves — and the West — on a cross of imperial overstretch, debt and blowback.
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Building seven.
Urban Movers, too.
ZimAmericanIsraeli's exodus from WTC a week ahead of 9/11, too
The perps are still at-large.
Ol' Hojjat just needed to remind Iranian folks that their real problem is war, and Israel, not $100 a pound goat meat and $90 a gallon camel milk.
btw;
what is the greatest threat to a 'NWO'?
is it not religion?, any religion that brings solace to a weary mind in a tumultuous timeless existence of being?
as I see it in 'Present-Time', mankind is slowly and methodically being metastasized into an 'Atheistic Society'... divorcing itself congenially for a frictionless cohabitation-- a moderated coexistence without the messiness of divine intervention with all its folly?
sadly, it is religion that coalesces all of mankind's' grandiose humanity into a symbiotic unity, where all else fails!
This 'NWO' must be destroyed at all cost!!!
jmo
ya got me thinkin Aziz, per usual ;-))
I get the impression that blogs like this are asking authors to write something alternative but to always keep in mind the Jewish angle, eveyone is worried at upsetting the true culprits the bloody jews! No matter what angle you looka at it from, you cannot polish a turd! The US and Israel are blocking Iran in a corner, Iran is only acting like a cornered animal.
Pakistan's nukes are dhal-powered...
Even if Iran had a deliverable nuclear weapon, it is highly unlikely that they would use it against Israel because the Israeli counterstrike would destroy Iran. But an Iranian nuclear weapon would make a US invasion of Iran impossible and might give them a freer hand to arm their proxies in Lebanon.There is a historical precedent. Stalin didn't give the OK for the North Korean invasion of South Korea until after Russia had tested its atomic bomb.
Hence the emphasis on regime change in Syria. A Syrian government hostile to Iran would make it much more difficult for Iran to operate in Lebanon. A game of global chess is being played and there is a lot going on beneath the surface.
I think that even Netanyahu realizes that it is too late for either Israel or the US to stop the Iranian nuclear weapons program. What we are witnessing is the preamble for the "blame game" that will begin after Iran openly announces that it has nukes. Netanyahu will say "See! I warned you. I wanted to stop this, but the US wouldn't let me." So his calls to attack Iran are mainly intended to make him look good to Israeli voters and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Iran and Israel are best friends....the joke is on the goyim! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUCo1JkqnVE&feature=em-share_video_user
The question many Iranian war planners must ask is, 'How do you attack Israel without damaging the Al-Aqsa Mosque or equally the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem'?
Pretty important site for Islam as every Prophet since Adam has visited the site. Although If the Al-Aqsa Mosque or Dome of he Rock were to be destroyed it would help with the local planning process in new Jewish Temple building plans. It can often be difficult getting demolition particularly for heritage buildings. Destruction of the mosques would almost certainly increase the land value of Temple Mount.
This whole war malarkey might just be another property developers scam.
...except when you are a mad dog (Mullah in Iran) it doesn't concern you.....Your creed is such that if and when you nod your head (not like Longstreet did on the 3'rd day of the Gettysburg debacle) and allow missiles to be launched against Israel, you know that everyone including you, the mad mullah, will be too busy shouting "god is great" to worry about whether it will be god's will to destroy the mosques in Jerusalem. The Mullah's will vanish faster than you can imagine if they were successful in destroying any of the mosques in Israel. They eat their own over there.....
You who hate The West are nihilists and anarchists. Every day this site is dominated more and more by those so inclined.
You would have cheered and defended Hitler prior to World War II. Every excuse you have made for nutjobimned could be found almost word for word in the newspapers of the 1930s.
You are all Darwin Award wannabes, and YOU WILL get your wish.
And the same old plan continues:Bankrupt the United States by forcing them to continue with large military spending budgets.Bigger and more powerful than any former military force in history,and broke with its run down cities full of ghettos and crime.Ya,be the world's policeman.
Just because Muslims lie doesn't mean you shouldn't take their threats seriously.
Iran is developing nuclear weapons. Ahmadinejad has threatened to use them against the US and Israel. Amhadinejad has said publicly that both countries must be destroyed before the 12th imam can return. The 12th imam is something like the Christ of Islam. Ahmadinejad is willing to let his country be destroyed to accomplish this. Iran's nuclear sites must be destroyed and soon.
Let me see if get the underlying message. For me what I always read any time Israel is posted to this blog is that they are :
At this point I would wish to leave this mad house. To those who think Israel mad lovers of hate, please take the next flight to Tehran, Cairo, Amman or Damascas and send us postcards about how lovely it is to be a member of that elite and enlightened anti-Illuminati society. Please go....
We live in a world of fear. So many need some person or group or religion to blame and eventually hate. It doesn't really matter who. Question? How do we best deal with those muslims that feel in their heart we infidels must die? Do we hide, send apologies or convert to muslim? If I am to accept responsibility for their undying hatred of me should i surrender myself to their rusty blade? Does anyone here think surrender will save us or do you care? Many here offer attacks on jews, neocons, America, christians and just about anyone BUT muslims, but hear few solution other than to denounce violence......after killing all the jews.
That about sums it up. Relevant:
http://www.arabnews.com/arab-spring-and-israeli-enemy
I WISH it was reasonable to ignore this kind of story! However, we are all forced to care, since we are looking at serious possibilities of war going OUT OF CONTROL, and therefore, most of us dying in horrible ways.
At least during the Cold War there were more or less rational materialists on both sides, who did not think committing suicide was a good idea. NOW, we have various countries on different sides that are controlled by people who BELIEVE in insane things! Indeed, the Iranian regime that exists today was created by the efforts of the Western powers to control Iran backfiring, to enable the regime that controls Iran now to take over the revolution against the Shah, that the Western powers imposed upon Iran. Under stress, people regress. Under more stress, they go insane. Iran has been put under tremendous stress by the Western powers attempting to control it. The resistance to that created the regime that controls Iran NOW.
In my view, the entire Neolithic civilization social pyramid system has become psychotically insane, and the Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions are ALL INSANE! ... Therefore, I WISH that one could simply ignore all of their nonsense and bullshit. However, that is not possible, since, when combined, they are sufficiently insane to start a world war using weapons of mass destruction, which could go utterly out of control, and result in global genocides, along with democidal martial law being imposed as another consequence of that!
The rhetoric coming out of Iran has been generated by the history of the social forces that have driven a regime of resistance, through which the worst of the worst inside of Iran were able to take over the Iranian revolution against what the Western powers were doing to Iran. Western powers have been deliberately driving this, since they are gambling upon being able to go for broke, and winning the global war that they are intentionally provoking.
Generally speaking, I find all of Aziz's comments on this situation to be too optimistic. My research has convinced me that the reality is way, way, way WORSE! For instance, I believe that 9/11 was a false flag attack done by Zionists, to blame on Muslims, in order to deliberately prepare for and accelerate a clash of civilizations between the Western powers and Islam. I also believe that the symbolism of 9/11 was quite deliberately foreshadowing the destruction of the American economy, and annihilation of the American democratic republic, to be able to replace that with a fragmented America, that could be assimilated into a bigger global system.
I believe that we should always remember that the first book on the Art of War starts by saying that success in war is based on deceits, and ends by saying that spies are the most important soldiers. I think we should take that more seriously, and understand that Neolithic civilization has been more than 10,000 years of developing those basic truths about war. We should consider what the natural selection pressures are through militarism. There are selection forces which drive the people who are the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, to take control of civilization. That has been happening in ALL of the countries in the whole world, more and more. ALL of our "leaders" are insane, because their only qualifications were that they were the best at dishonesty, backed by violence. The leaders of Israel represent that. The leaders of America represent that. The leaders of Iran represent that. We are surrounded and dominated in all possible ways by Huge Lies, backed up with lots of violence. That is automatically becoming more and more psychotic and self-destructive!
This article, like all of the others I have read so far by Aziz, is way too shallow. It does not penetrate enough into the deeper history of the fundamental structure of Neolithic civilization as a social pyramid system based on the triumphs of fraud and robbery. That continuing success of the triumph of huge lies means that ALL the "leaders" in Israel, the USA, and Iran, etc., are utterly INSANE, since their entire careers were based on them being the best at dishonesty, and those who are the absolute best at dishonesty are the ones who are also the best at lying to themselves, as well as others!
The whole world is controlled by the most criminally insane people, being historically selected for, again and again, to prevail in every short-term increment of the unfolding and development of militarism, pumped up with science and technology to become orders of magnitude greater and greater!!! The REAL WORLD is dominated by MAD MEN WITH WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
To put Iran in proper perspective is to recognize that the leaders of Israel and the USA are even madder, and have more weapons of mass destruction, because they were historically more successful at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence. They dominate the Western powers, and they did so by being the best organized gangs of criminals, and they have all of the well-established psychological and social habits to continue those action patterns. They have created what exists in Iran today as their shadow.
We are ALL trapped inside of this runaway insanity of the world being controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. Iran is not in the same league as the trillionaire mass murders that are controlling the Western powers. The leaders of various Western countries are orders of magnitude more evil, because history has selected them to become the very best at dishonesty backed by violence, to operate organized frauds and robberies on a global scale, within a global empire that they are attempting to consolidate. The biggest and best organized gangs of criminals are attempting to wipe out all the other lesser gangs of criminals. That is what the coming war between the Western powers and the Islamic world is about: different gangs of insane criminals, engaging in a battle royal with each other!
The vast majority of the ordinary people in the Western countries seem incapable of understanding the basic facts about militarism! They have been systematically brainwashed to not be able to appreciate the basic facts that success in war was always based on deceits, and so, spies were always the most important soldiers. The vast majority of people living inside of the Western countries are barely able to imagine that their own "leaders" are actually the people who are the most deceitful and violent people on the planet, or rather, that the people behind those people, that control those puppet politicians, are the supreme organized crime gang, a group of trillionaire mass murders, that have been deliberately working towards starting another world war, and imposing martial law, as what they INTEND on doing, and what they ARE DOING!
This article by Aziz is merely another bit of mainstream fluff, because it does not consider the basic facts about militarism seriously. It certainly does not think any deeper about how the existing money/murder systems need to go through radical paradigm shifts, IF our militarisms are going to actually adapt to the reality of weapons of mass destruction. This article just illustrates more typically superficial and silly views. THE REALITY IS FAR, FAR WORSE! ... And whether Neolithic civilization can survive, or ever be transformed enough to survive, is VERY, VERY, VERY problematic!!! We are so, so, so far up shit creek without a paddle that it is practically impossible to image how bad our real situation actually is!
It's been pure luck that's kept us going since Nov 1962. It's not our skill, it's npt our preparation, it is not our planning and clever strategies, it was luck. Things went right more times that was reasonable to expect them to. But things that can't continue don't, and one of those things is breathing.
At the moment there are more people living than have lived in the prior 2 million years, so overall we haven't done too badly.
enjoy
YEAH, there have been about a couple dozen "accidental" coincidences that almost already started world war with atomic weapons, and twice it came down to the decision of one Russian officer that prevented starting a world war.
When the reality is that the world has about 2,000 nuclear weapons, loaded on missiles, always ready to go at the turn of a few keys, and the push of a button, while a few hundred would pretty well destroy global civilization, we are perpetually dancing on the edge of a precipice, and flirting with self-annihilation. THAT has been the main political problem I have been worrying about since I was a teenager, and first realized that it EXISTS ... There is nowhere to go to hide from it ... unless one has the means to build a multibillion dollar bunker, and hide out there for maybe the rest of one's life, after a war with weapons of mass destruction destroyed civilization, and made normal agriculture impossible for a long, long time!
You are correct that, as long as the human population keeps on growing, then that PROVES that things are not so bad! The basic advancement of harnessing inanimate energy sources is still AWESOME! I have no doubt that there are plenty of creative alternatives. The crucial problem is the one I wrote about above, that the triumph of lies, backed by violence, means that our society ends up being controlled by the most criminally insane people, who were the best at being dishonest, and the different groups of those kinds of people are able and willing to start wars to advance their agendas!
That is WHY I always say that the possible systems of alternatives NEED, more than anything else, the keystone of a new kind of militarism, or a new age warfare, to implement a murder system doing death controls in radically different ways! However, as you said, as long as the objective reality is that it is still POSSIBLE for the human population to keep growing, then we have not yet reached the REAL LIMITS to our new sciences and technologies.
When we get to the tipping point, where the absolute number of human beings on the planet starts to overall go down, instead of up at an exponential rate, THEN, and only then, will we have transformed into a different age. The obvious PROBLEM with that is that the endless UP of exponential growth, throughout pretty well ALL of the history of civilization, is very probably going to OVERSHOOT!!!
In that sense, Malthus was an optimist. He thought we would evolve quickly to some subsistence level. Instead, we are way more likely go on a roller coaster ride, where the human population doubles in size once too many times, and then CRASHES by half, or more. One way or another, we most probably will be doing that to ourselves, rather than due to some outside factor (although, of course, nature is infinitely bigger than we are, and could wipe us out by a long list of possible ways, beyond our control.)
The path we are on now is for the richer people to be reproducing at rates which are practically committing collective suicide, since they are not even fully replacing their numbers, while the poorer people are practically declaring war on their neighbours, since they are still growing their population at an exponential rate.
One of the main factors BEHIND the problem between Jews in Israel, and the surrounding Islamic people, is that the Islamic population is still doubling in size very fast! Certainly way faster than the size of the population of Jews in Israel and its rate of increase.
That demographic problem clearly also exists in Europe. In the USA, the same problem arises with Hispanic populations still determined to grow at an highly exponential rate, which would overwhelm all others in a Century or so, if the rates stayed the same as they are now. Given that there are vast hordes of poor people whose population is still growing at fantastic exponential rates, while there are dwindling populations of richer people, one can sort of see the demographic imperatives everywhere, that might motivate the few elites amongst the richest to regard the poor as declaring war upon the rich, and therefore, giving the rich grounds to WANT to start wars, and cause social chaos, that would give rise to excuses for genocidal wars, and democidal martial law.
It is absolutely impossible for there to be endless exponential growth of the absolute size of the human population, like there has been for several Centuries, and indeed, throughout the whole of the history of Neolithic civilization. We went from agriculture, through harnessing inanimate energy sources, to make it practically possible to enable exponential growth of the total size of the human population, and the total amount of human economic activities. However, it is absolutely impossible for that to continue much longer.
Certainly, nobody can imagine how the total human population and total human economic activities could continue to keep on doubling and doubling, so that there was 14 billion people, doing more things, then 28 billion, and so on and so forth. I can not imagine any ways that the world as we know it could keep doing that for a couple hundred more years, until there was hundreds of billions of people, living like we do today!
Therefore, the exponential growth MUST stop, in one way or another. By definition, whatever stops that exponential growth will be some form or another of death controls. The ONLY meaningful limit MUST be some kind of murder system. The ONLY sane debate should be what are the best ways to do that. However, such a sane debate is practically impossible to have.
IF there was a real and enduring peace process between, say, Israel and the surrounding Islamic world, then THAT peace process MUST include all aspects of human ecology and industrial ecology, in the overall context of the natural ecology. It MUST include fundamental issues like water supplies, etc.. It MUST include ALL the participants actually having enforced limits to stop the increase in the size of their population. Otherwise, any other "peace process" is necessarily just another fraud, and a temporary truce until the objective conditions deteriorate enough to force another war.
Given that the central people involved are the best organized criminals, who were the most excellent liars, and the vast majority of the various populations involved believe in a bunch of obsolete religious bullshit, which has absolutely no way to reconsider its moral precepts, etc., the ONLY practical way forward appears to be the one we are actually on! Namely, the evil elites that control each respective society keep on being professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, in ways that drive all the objective conditions to automatically get worse and worse, faster and faster, until they push themselves past the threshold of restraint, and tip into the insanity of a runaway war that uses weapons of mass destruction, which wipes almost all of them mostly out of existence.
Like you said, ever since we developed atomic bombs, we have been headed towards doing that! Sometime by the middle of the 1960s the world had enough atomic bombs to destroy all of civilization, and any total war became totally insane. That, and apparently ONLY that, has prevented such a war, and a lot of that prevention depended on GOOD LUCK, indeed, an amazing amount of good luck!
I believe that the atomic weapons race between the USA and the USSR peaked in 1986, when they almost had 50,000 combined between them, and since then, that number has dropped down to about 30,000. There are constantly being maintained at least a couple thousand ready for launch at a moment's notice, and at least 20,000 more back-up bombs in reserve. And that does not include the biological weapons, and whatever other secret weapons that may well exist, like weather modification, and earthquake triggering devices, etc.!
If Iran had some effective biological weapons, that it could release in retaliation for being nuked, then such a thing could easily be enough to cause global civilization to collapse into chaos. If Iran got nuked, and then, in response. released powerful biological weapons in Europe and/or North America, then our civilization would collapse into chaos quite completely. THAT is the problem with weapons becoming trillions of times more powerful than ever before in human history! Nothing in history has made the vast majority of people, nor their leaders, able and willing to understand that the power of their weapons is many orders of magnitude BIGGER than they are!
However, even only considering the atomic weapons, the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction has distributed hundreds and hundreds of those to various countries that are overtly ruled by insane, old-fashioned religions, under the rulership of criminally insane people, who specialize in pretending to believe in those religions, and maybe actually do, in their own ways. Therefore, we are all rushing towards creating conditions that MUST eventually go out of control and collapse into chaos, and we do NOT appear to be able to do anything sufficiently realistic and practical to stop that, since the "leaders" are liars, and the vast majority of their populations are political idiots that believe in bullshit.
As far as I can tell, there is not the slightest chance that these different countries could have a saner debate about how to cooperate upon better death controls, rather than store up the power to destroy themselves together instead.
Metaphorically, it is like the weather, where there is constantly being pumped energy into the system, warming up everything ... until finally all that energy starts to organize itself into a storm. Like all the energy, that was the Sun shining down on the sea, ends up being organized into a hurricane. I see the same thing happening to human society. There have been severe social storms brewing on the horizon of history for quite some time. We could quite suddenly see social storms and social tornadoes, like nothing else before in human history, that could change everything faster and more than we can now imagine!
I agree that it appears to mostly be luck that that has not already got going, so far, and that things are still, relatively, right now, better for the majority of the world's people than they were throughout most of the past. However, all of that could change, to get drastically much worse, in the blink of an eye, on a VERY BAD NEWS DAY ???
As far as I can tell, it is impossible to get enough people to sanely think about some better, radically different militarism, doing radically different and better death controls, until AFTER the already established money/murder systems actually go MAD, and mostly destroy themselves, and thereby, force the survivors to change their habitual ways of thinking!
Israel wants to irradiate the Iranians. WTF.
'China and Pakistan have both hinted that they could defend Iran if Iran were attacked — and for good reason, as Iran supplies significant quantities of energy.'
China and/or Pakistan have very little ability to project power to this region of the world. I think that the biggest threat that Iran poses, and it is very significant, is using their mine-laying capabilities to shut off the straight of hormoz. I envision a '79 oil shortage and the trigger that could set off the massive amounts of inflation that everybody has been expecting since all of the money-printing started. We no longer have the tools to stave off inflation once it starts as I'm sure ZHers know.
Where exacly did you get that steaming pile of horseshit again? Neither China or Pakistan have the power to do anything more than lick each others balls. You think China is going to go DEFCON 1 with America it's biggest market over something as fungible as oil? I am sure they can get their buddy Hugo C. (if he is not too busy in the coming civil war there) to make up the difference. Seriously, if China so much as sneezes in Teherans direction we first defualt on every bond they hold and then embargo any further imports, you think the Chinese would survive that? Hint... NO!
Pakistan? That place makes Mexico look like Shangri La. They have the American military and NATO going through their territory to conduct a war on their west and 1.3 billion Indians on their east border just waiting for an excuse. And they have no friends or income if we desert them. I am not asking you to like it, just saying be an adult, see what is not what you want to believe.
By the way all religion is crap handed to you to better control you. Live with that too.
So, to all you Jew haters (we had a word for you in school, Nazis, yes that was it) and oh, by the way, you are totally without brains or honor, there is a set of problems and they can be determined and solved, but there will be no solutions without a couple of preconditions without which war is both inevitable and the preferred course, one is that Israel has a right to exist (within 1967 borders) and that Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Accept that, get it through your head now that this will be or there will be a war unlike anything even written about in novels, I am not asking you to like it but I am telling you that is how it will be. That is the starting point for any further discussions.
And I feel so sorry for you as the losers of the terms of reality, because in reality you might dream of the death of Israel and the Jewish people but in reality you have done nothing but align yourselves ideologically with the German Nazis of Hitler. You have made yourself irrelevant at best and criminal in the eyes of all humanity. How can I thank you?
If there is a war with Iran it will be because Iran is indeed an irrational state theocracy with international murder as a state policy. I will feel very bad for the millions of innocents that will die, but the innocent vast majority in Iran could have and should still put a stop to the suicidal state policy of their government. No matter how bad I feel for the innocent who are going to die Iran will not ever have nuclear weapons.
If there is a war with Iran they and you will lose within a week. The threat will be removed within a week, the occupation that benefits the wealthy in the west will last decades.
If you claim they are not building them you are both stupid and will not be listened to, you are a moron and irrelevant. And I want to thank you all for the red arrows, they do not change policy as to the status of Israel, but they do accelerate the policy toward Iran, THANK YOU ALL!
If everything we all say here and live in our lives around the nation and world boil down to Jews against the rest of the world, because they manipulate gold prices or run the fed or control media or whatever your nausea inducing hate has been posted over the years.... If it really comes down to that then you join Iran and shoot your neighbors, but me, I join my Jewish friends and I shoot you. Because you are Nazi dirt. If you had any balls you would have moved to Teheran years ago. But, I am happy as things are, saves me a trip to Asia when I come for your Nazi ass.
With people like you around no wonder we need FEMA camps in the desert. I hope I am in charge of one while you are there shit disturbing.
Keep the red arrows coming you pussies of the keyboard. See you in hell and I will know you because of the swastikas on your arms.
A rambling inane post that sums up as saying 'if you dont support isreal and its stupid leaders then you're a nazi'
OK, then fuck you.
Isreal ensured Iran would get the bomb when it prodded dumbass bush to invade iraq and tie down american military might there indefinately.
So tough shit now.
Funny the bullshit you children can come up with, no proof of course, just crap. Deal with reality or go vote republican and lose there as well. What the fuck do you think I care?
"With people like you around no wonder we need FEMA camps in the desert. I hope I am in charge of one while you are there shit disturbing."
i dont think your jewish friends would put you in charge of a toilet block in the CAMPS. Funny how you guys cant wait to get the goyim into CAMPS.
what you smokin' boy?? i can smell it from here... that hydro shit...
You do know that the Duke was gay right? The argument will never be settled since he is dead, but I knew people in New York that knew he was indeed gay. So, your avatar is proof of your manipulation by the media. :)
What is is what is people, you don't have to like it but lying to yourselves has never helped any situation. And if you choose to pick a fight you better be ready for a real one because I have very little to lose and a lot to gain by taking on the illiterate and stupid. I am spoiling to take on a bunch of Nazis.
I see u've worked how to give yourself a green.
The avatar is of colonel Kilgore of a certain movie called apocalypse now, his sexuality is not explored in the movie you freak.
But the title of the movie appeals to me in these times of division.
I know you have little to lose
It's plain to see u r a maggot and loser but probably more a spotty youth staying up to wank over your parents keyboard.
It's plain to see your values are the ones defined by Hollywood , specifically tarantino , what was the go with that inglourious basterds.... Talk about total arrogance of the tinsel town history fantasists...
Rambling? Oh right, if you have the attention span of a housefly. Christ what a bunch of goons and morons.
I defer to an expert
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2096747,00.html
and this as well
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2081285,00.html
I think Israel is more dangerous to world than Iran.
http://youtu.be/Yd0-Y6Jif7k
http://youtu.be/_kPe5zcTjH4
Interesting Stratfor released a "complimentary" report
"Curious U.S. and French Military Deployments"
September 28, 2012
Its all for show....Israel and Iran are best of friends. You have to look behind the curtain. Ahmadenijad's every action fully supports Israel needs for more funding by the USA by using our hard earned tax dollars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUCo1JkqnVE&feature=em-share_video_user
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