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The French Great Socialist Revolution Will Be Homework-Free, And Very, Very Cold

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Whereas some may have welcomed the latest development in the Great French Socialist Revolution chronicles, primarily those 8-16 year olds who would directly benefit from president Francois Hollande's attempt to capture the vote of those still ineligible to actually vote, by promising to do away with homework (because it encourages "inequality" as homework apparently "favors the wealthy"), everyone else saw right through it for the sad attempt at populism it was. Luckily, the impact of this idiotic policy, if it were to actually pass, would not be visible for at least a decade at which point French society would be so dumb (not to mention poor) that few would actually care. However, another proposal being currently contemplated in France may have far more immediate terminal consequences to the life expectancies of those personally experiencing the reincarnation of wholesale of socialism. Because as Bloomberg notes, "Heating a French home could soon require an income tax consultation or even a visit to the doctor under legislation to force conservation in the nation’s $46 billion household energy market." Congratulations Europe: in your ongoing crusade of wealth redistribution (when all this could have been averted if you, and the US, had simply allowed the banks who control your society to collapse), you are about to make heating one's home a privilege for the despised Bourgeoisie, an act which must be monetarily punished, and socially ostracized.

More on this sad and pathetic at the same time development, coming to broke socialist countries near you:

A bill adopted by the lower house this month would set prices that homes pay based on wages, age and climate. Utilities Electricite de France SA and GDF Suez SA (GSZ) will use the data to reward consumers who cut power and natural gas usage and penalize those whom regulators decide are wasteful.


“It’s Orwellian,” opposition lawmaker Daniel Fasquelle said by telephone. “The law will create huge inequalities and infringe on people’s individual freedoms. It won’t work.”


Socialist President Francois Hollande is pushing boundaries of privacy and privilege in carrying out a campaign promise to reduce energy costs. France, which built the world’s biggest reliance on nuclear power as other nations buckled under public anxiety over atomic energy, is now seeking support to reward homes for “negawatts,” or not using a kilowatt of power.


The law would be unique to France and is symbolic to the Socialists, a government official who declined to be identified said yesterday. Households bought 35 billion euros ($46 billion) of energy in 2011, including power, gas and other heating fuels.

This is how the government plans on actually micromanaging the implementation of this proposal:

The government and regulator will set the reward and penalty incentives under which households using less than their allotted base volume of energy get rebates while those surpassing the limits pay higher rates. The difference could be as much as 60 euros a megawatt-hour, according to the draft.


This could translate into penalties of 600 euros a year for a home “leaking heat” compared to a well-insulated one, according to opposition lawmaker Antoine Herth. Environmental Minister Delphine Batho told senators the government will provide its own simulations of the effects on household bills, which will be “reasonable” so as to act as an incentive.

Ironically, the communists are against it.

The proposed law was adopted by the National Assembly on Oct. 4 and is set for Senate debate later this month. Opposition from Communist members has pushed a Senate commission to postpone its examination until Oct. 23 so some revisions can be made. The draft contravenes the principle of equal access to energy across France and should be completely revised, Communist senators said in a statement late yesterday.

Of course, what the bill will ultimately achieve is to collapse revenue at the private (for now) corporations that actually provide electricity, leading to more unemployment, less corporate tax revenues, and ultimate even higher prices passed through in different ways. Oh, and a higher deficit for France, as a result of both declining tax revenue, and higher spending which will be needed to subsidize both the public and eventually private sector, once the energy companies start defaulting left and right.

EDF and GDF Suez would be the most exposed because of their dominant positions. EDF supplies power to 28 million household clients in France, while GDF Suez provides gas to 9.4 million customers, giving them respective market shares of 93 percent and 90 percent by volume, according to the regulator.


“It won’t be beneficial for the utilities, it will be neutral at best,” Emmanuel Retif, analyst at Raymond James Euro Equities in Paris, said by e-mail. “If it were to be beneficial, heating bills would have to rise and that’s not what the government is trying to do.”

Fear not, though, in its attempt to turn its once grand nuclear energy industry on its head, France and Hollande will simply borrow some other comparably brilliant "green energy" ideas from his ideological brethren, and centrally-plan the mandated roll out of a mini-solar power plant in every home.

Because it is only fair.

Alternatively, there is always this option for home heating:


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Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:52 | 2904370 prains
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Hibatchi Economics


big flames, no meat, cold feet

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:56 | 2904384 Stackers
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It's time to dig out the sweaters and heavy socks

~Jimmy Carter

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:01 | 2904393 Manthong
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Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s load bearing wooden structure elements.

Sheathing and fascia will do, though.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:04 | 2904396 hedgeless_horseman
Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:06 | 2904408 Pure Evil
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It's beginning to look a lot like the middle ages, (sung to the tune of Beginning to look a lot like Christmas).

And, just in the nick of time for the holidays.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:11 | 2904419 CPL
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Peak sweet light crude.

Peak Diesel with horsepower

Peak Heating tank ran out and I'm on a waiting list for a week for delivery.


To my fellow Canucks with an oil tank, call now, you can use Diesel to keep the furnace running in a pinch and DO NOT FORGET TO BLEED THE LINE.  Or bad things happen.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:21 | 2904451 Gully Foyle
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You should have invested in a multiburner. I know about wood and oil and I think some do coal/wood/oil.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:32 | 2904491 Capitalist10
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There is also this option for heating.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:36 | 2904505 Harbanger
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I thought you would show a romanian.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:40 | 2904514 CPL
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What the central bank of Hungary burning it's money to keep schools warm to avoid killing their children?  Man the EU is a mess.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:01 | 2904880 redpill
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They can just wait for economically despairing individuals to self-immolate and then use the flames for warmth.  A modest proposal if I've ever heard one.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 23:51 | 2906037 Harlequin001
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or move to a warmer climate...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:59 | 2904506 Pure Evil
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You would think that instead of eliminating homework, they would just turn what kids like to do into homework just to get the credit.

Video games, hanging at the mall or shopping center, watching TV, sleeping, popping pimples, having sex with their teachers, boy scout leaders, or catholic priests, etc....

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:07 | 2904636 BooMushroom
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They can eliminate *assigned* homework. But the rich will hire tutors to ensure their children actually learn the material anyway.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:56 | 2904853 AnAnonymous
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The rich and the entrenched middle class.

This decision is one to seduce the 'american' middle class that does the voting.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:39 | 2904503 CPL
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That's the furance, the hot water tank is it's own issue.  I have no shortage of heat otherwise.  Have a wood furance as well and a wood stove.  I won't worry about turning on the furance until first snow. 


The hot shower thing is annoying.  Boiled water sponge bath after being in the barn for a couple of hours makes a man grumpy and stinky.  Not a good combo.  I love hot water showers too much.  With six people in the house at anytime.  Dishes, etc.  I just put 10 gallons of diesel in the tank from one of the tractor tanks, bled the line and restarted the pumps...reminds me I have to change my oil and tranny fliud again.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:57 | 2904590 Matt
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First, I don't see how lack of homework is going to cause children to become mutes.

If the author meant less intelligent, I do not think homework has a big impact on IQ levels.

If the author meant literacy, the plan is to extend the school week by ~4 hours for students to do their "homework" at school instead, which seems a bit more expensive but otherwise I don't see it having a huge imapct on the general populace.

As for this energy program thing, this basically amounts to an increased cost of about $0.10 per KwH, which seems pretty steep considering most North Americans only pay an average of $0.11 per KwH. A more reasonable and "equal" (socialist-friendly) solution would be tiered billing, such as:

$0.10 per KwH for the first 1000 KwH per month

$0.15 per KwH for 1000 to 2500 KwH in a month

$0.20 per KwH >2500 within a month

It sounds like these beaurocrats like making things convoluted and require as many more public workers as possible.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:55 | 2904851 misnomer
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Been there, done that.  Fortunately where I live there is an ample supply of firewood, which only costs sweat, and a tank of gas in the chainsaw. 

Long Stihl!  (Husqvarna's are crap)

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:21 | 2904450 Chief_Illiniwek
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Is your disclosure referring to the clothing or the clientele?

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 17:54 | 2905586 billsykes
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La long johns

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:03 | 2904615 Wile-E-Coyote
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Fuck the French their tanks have five reverse gears and one forward gear that is disconnected.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:32 | 2904759 NewAmericaNow
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Heating will now be accomplished through self immolation.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:43 | 2905755 JuliaS
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The reason Napoleon's relatively small army was so successful at conquiring almost the entire Europe, is that it was the first one in the history of mankind to be fully literate. Since education for children of all social casts had just become mandatory in France, by the time conscripts were gathered, all of them could read and write, making them much more efficient at communicating intent, planning  attacks and following orders than any of the opposing armies (typically consisting of the poorest and dumbest members of society who couldn't afford to go to school).

The reason Napoleon got defeated by the harsh Russian winter is because it faced a non-human thread that it was indifferent to literacy.

But to the point.

Greece has become the "cradle to grave" of civilization. France seems to be following suit, by first revolutionizing education and then, centuries later, sending it after Napoleon.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:48 | 2905772 Ar-Pharazôn
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french military technology in land warfare was the best at this time

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:34 | 2905844 JuliaS
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French became the leaders in industrialization and urbanization in the 17th-18th centuries. The invention of the printing press made it possible to mass-educate young people making them suitable for highly specialized mechanized city labor. It was a social revolution that yielded capable workers and skillful soldiers.

The main weapon was access to information, up to that point limited and segregated among the wealthy who typically had no intent of sending their children to war. Every French advantage, including land warfare skills and equipment came from pioneering of the printing press, but it didn't take long for the rest of the world to catch up. Decades later everyone had books, schools and factories and the French faded into obscurity (again, relatively speaking).

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:54 | 2905781 Ar-Pharazôn
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plus relatively small army? no army in europe had the numbers of the french army

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:53 | 2904375 SmallerGovNow2
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WOW, everything is red, equities, oil, gold, run to the dollar?  WTF...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:54 | 2904578 CPL
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Is silver back under 8?

Is gold back under 700?




Call me then.  Take the boon of articifically cheaper pump prices in the meanwhile.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:55 | 2904379 Jason T
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This is more and more like Atlst Shrugged.. man, go Galt and drop out of this nightmare.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:57 | 2904387 DoChenRollingBearing
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I just hope this Socialist nonsense ever comes here.  But, it has started...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:34 | 2904499 Harbanger
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I think you meant "never".  That's what the NWO is all about, global socialism.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:35 | 2904501 Pure Evil
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Ah, but don't ply the waters in the Gulf of Aden, or you could be mistaken for a Somali priate.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:07 | 2904631 DaveyJones
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and what's the big deal about doing away with homework. The politicians haven't been doing theirs for years.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:56 | 2904588 CPL
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Let it all break all by itself, to destroy a system you only have to remove your individual efforts.


Entropy does the job then

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:00 | 2904380 malikai
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This is very bullish for EDF in way of energy exports to neighboring countries. It's also good news for Belgians, as they should get a nice subsidy out of this.

EDIT: I seem to recall there is an HVDC between France and the UK as well. Which makes me think "Thanks Hollande for lowering my bill too".

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:04 | 2904381 bigdumbnugly
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is a french revolution sans guillotines really a revolution?

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:31 | 2904488 Harbanger
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If they have a revolution now the Socialist's would get the guillotine.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:41 | 2904795 insanelysane
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They must have a guillotine or 2 in museums and things.  Just need to sharpen them up and oil the slides.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:55 | 2904382 pods
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Wow, just wow.  

This would be perfectly legal in the US as well.  You would not be forced to allow entry, 4th amendment and all, but if you do not allow the inspectors into your home you will be forced to pay a tax.

This is what the world has come to.


Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:16 | 2904430 falak pema
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Just as an historic reference : In 1981 Mitterrand installed full price controls in all sectors of the economy and nationalised a lot of industries. Since 1983 about turn, all price controls have been removed especialy as the Single MArket of Maastricht imposed this and given that French Corporates are owned 60% by foreigners. So market forces prevailed since 1990s.

We will certainly see some sectorial price controls being installed from a protectionist perspective and to create safety nets for lower incomes if the economy tanks further; "fraternité" oblige. But I don't see France going back to globalisation makes it impossible. And Statist knee jerks is its historic question on that.

But...Eu rules prevail and don't take your knee jerk fears for a sustainable trend. 

Having said that, Europe will never be the US model of Oligarchy run free for all...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:23 | 2904720 BooMushroom
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But I don't see France going back to globalisation makes it impossible.

Just because it's impossible doesn't mean they won't try it.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:28 | 2904740 falak pema
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aaah...but the there!

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:48 | 2904823 Cathartes Aura
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it's good to remember the historic patterns, and how each nation's current figurehead is instructed to experiment with the national corporate "resources" - the rules come and go, as and when the people revolt or roll over. . . each set of govt. installed will of course try to achieve the goals set by their overlords, but if a particular nation's peoples make too much noise, the test case(s) can just be moved to an others territory. . .

Mitterand & price controls, nationalised industries, at the same time that Maggie T. began the great UK fire sale of their nationalised utilities, opening the door for global corporate ownership of national necessities, etc. 

see how far we've come!

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:01 | 2904877 AGuy
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Wait, This isn't price controls, but the opposite: Consumption Controls. Price controls are enacted under the false premise to avoid declines in consumption (keeping costs artifically low). Consumption controls are enacted to limit consumers available to consume a product, by making it more expensive.

I suspect this is way to move France to have a trade surplus, but getting consumers to consume less imported products (in this case imported energy).

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:57 | 2904386 nmewn
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Hollande is like a kid dancing on the control panel inside nuclear power plant, completely confident in the fail safe features of it.

And when it blows...he'll blame the people who built it.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:59 | 2904394 DoChenRollingBearing
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It's all George Bush's fault! He just inherited it...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:03 | 2904398 nmewn
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I didn't build that, Sarkozy did!!!

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:22 | 2904455 Gully Foyle
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He didn't do that by himself either

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:28 | 2904476 Gully Foyle
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I have a TCC training point that maybe you could ask your instructor about.

Have you ever seen the videos where students slap a barrel full of water? I was watching an Earle Montaigue Bagua video and he mentioned striking  the bag with a cupped palm strike not open hand. The cupped hand creates a small pocket of air which does more damage that flat palm.

That made me think that the water training was designed to acheive a similar purpose, a focused column (best word I can think of now) which does more damage.

Really when you strike the body you mainly deal with liquids.

So creating a palm sized area of more focused energy does much more damage.

It's similar to using a whip hand to put out a candle.

Which creates all those legends regrading distant strikes.

Just a thought.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:12 | 2904659 DaveyJones
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I'm always confused when they disparage the Bush inheritance. I'd love to inherit the Bush family fortunes.  

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:54 | 2904847 Cathartes Aura
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eerrhm, I think the pre-requisite of being part of La Familia would weigh more heavily on you than any inheritance might offset.


so many generations of corruption there. . .

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:34 | 2904995 DaveyJones
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sick jesters vs sick gestures. They make the mafia look like schoolkids. Like any other sick family in history, their growth stands in direct relation to the overall growth of corruption 

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:53 | 2905083 Cathartes Aura
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"sick jesters vs sick gestures"

couldn't agree more.  may the truths be learned by the many, and justice be served going forward. . .


Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:22 | 2904388 falak pema
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...Congratulations Europe: in your ongoing crusade of wealth redistribution (when all this could have been averted if you, and the US, had simply allowed the banks who control your society to collapse), ....

This is the crux of the contrarian argument; as if it could have been done without pain...for the entire world.

Many Oligarchs  of WS have publicly contradicted this saying it would have been 1939 repeat.

It would be nice to have a quantified assessment of what contraction the world banking collapse without Tarp and QE would have begot in December 2008 onwards, if the TBTF dictat had not been imposed on the world by GWB/Paulson/Bernanke. 

And then continued by BO/BB/Timmy and Merkozy in Europe. 

The 17 T meltdown presented by a German think tank, if Euro crumbles is one benchmark. 

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:50 | 2904808 Marco
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The collapse is coming, is planned ... and it won't solve a fucking thing. The status quo is wealth concentration, this much is true. The concept that letting the financial system collapse will be a reset is just retarded though. Defaults exchange collateral for debt ... after the collapse we will simply exchange a debtor society for a rentier society, all that will change is the efficiency with which TPTB can bleed everyone else dry.

The roots of our problems are wealth concentration, elite owned governments and peak fucking everything ... the collapse will not change one fucking thing about any of those.

France's turn to socialism doesn't really matter, as long as they are tied to the Euro and the European free market they'll be forced to back down.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:57 | 2904389 MrBoompi
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No program, however socialistic or capitalistic in nature, will last for long if the fiancial elite are against it.  In other words, the only type of wealth redistribution that will now be allowed is wealth redistribution UPWARDS.  Any attempt to rock this boat will result in suffering for people who had nothing to do with the political or economic choices their leaders have made.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:16 | 2904687 Harbanger
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Anyone in France with any kind of money and no connections with the new regime is getting out while they still can.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:00 | 2904870 Cathartes Aura
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indeed, the "financial elite" allow all kinds of social experiments via named governing systems, but in the end, it's serfdom for anyone not in their enclaves, globally.

the parasite is the overlord, and this is what must be acknowledged in order to begin the long task of ridding the system of the life-suckers.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:58 | 2904390 Jim in MN
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Bearish for Gazprom

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:26 | 2904422 hedgeless_horseman
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Bullish for Wiggies.


In all seriousness...


· If it gets cold where you live, then purchase

o A mummy style sleeping bag like a Wiggies; $250.

o At least one set of heavy wool pants and wool parka, such as Columbia's Gallatin Range ; $350.

o A pair of warm boots, wool socks, warm gloves, and a wool hat; $350.

o Two sets of Patagonia long underwear; $120.



Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:59 | 2905791 Ar-Pharazôn
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mummy style bag apart, you can ask an oldie to sew the wool clothes. spare 820 $, instead of utterly wasting them

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 11:59 | 2904395 FreeMktFisherMN
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Love that pic of the econ textbook getting consumed. Gives me the idea to burn mine from my frosh and sophomore days of being taught neoclassical econ (keynesian). 


Silver is on sale today, by the way, so some French could consider that to protec themselves from arbitary confiscation.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:39 | 2904510 Overfed
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PMs are getting pounded like a porn star.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:04 | 2904399 “Rebellion to t...
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Every so often, voters throughout the world elect children to represent them.  The USA has payed dearly for their mistake; as will the people and businesses of France.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:21 | 2904453 thomasincincy
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It's who you know, the club, the corporations, the banks etc... don't mind that these people have payed no mind to what was really going on. The couuntry's infrastructure is in shambles down to the local level to which can't generate any kind of recovery and the people don't know or care to understand what has happened. It's typical thou... nothing different for the last 40-50+ years. Kick the can and not address the root cause of the problem. It involves more than economically too... cultural, around racism and As I say, there is a reason why you build cities and were about to find out.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:03 | 2904401 fonzannoon
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these are the days u go to buy silver and they keep the sale price waay above spot and u start to realize what's what.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:13 | 2904421 Big Slick
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You're doing it wrong.  ETFs are the way to go.  But insist on holding the physical certificates.  In a pinch, they can be burned for warmth.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:07 | 2904414 FubarNation
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Thanks for the reminder Tyler. 


Need to fire up the kero heater this weekend and purchase some more fuel for the winter.



Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:09 | 2904417 foodstampbarry
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Fri, 10/19/2012 - 15:59 | 2905310 reTARD
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Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:13 | 2904423 Unprepared
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Set fire to your homeworks bitchez.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:15 | 2904429 bilejones
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As Taki said, they are economic lesbians, they dont know dick.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:11 | 2904913 Cathartes Aura
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an awful lot of dick got us to this point, with all the examples your mind imagines included.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:21 | 2904440 Jack Burton
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The glorious Soviet Union had over 70 years of complete power to carry out the socialist dream. Believe me, I visited the old USSR back in the late 70's early 80's. It was a hell hole that was beyond belief. Even the show case cities Moscow and Leningrad and Kiev could not mask the third world nature of the rest of the country.

Nobody would work without a gun aimed at their heads. The disaster was complete. WHY, do French socialists think it will work for them? God knows? But in a global economic system like today's, France will sink to a hell hole in a matter of a few years if it tries the socialist experiment. As soon as more third world people discover France is a hand "out state", they will flood into France for the good life even more so than now. France will be a Black Muslim state in my lifetime. Bank on it! Britian is headd that way. WHy do you think they call it "Soviet Britain"? Because about half of everyne working works for government or gets it contract work from government. Many others are simply on the "Hand Out" state. The National Health Serive just announced a new policy that demands all illegal immigrants arriving in Britain be taken on by NHS doctors and refered to Hospital for complete care of anything wrong with them. ALSO, they can be put ahead of native British on the lists. Perfect socialism. No wonder parts of British Midlands look like Pakistan. WHY wouldn't they come? France is on the same path.

Bloody Idiots!

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:22 | 2904452 hedgeless_horseman
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WHY, do French socialists think it will work for them?

No thinking about why, only feelings of want.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:18 | 2904937 Cathartes Aura
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it was all perfectly fine to have the colonising Euro-peon states flooding into the darkies' nations to plunder their resources, use their humans for slaves, set up the fiefdoms, etc. - it's just a bloody nightmare mate when the global pirate chickens come home to roost.

on a long enough timeline. . . everybody gets to experience being owned.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:12 | 2905809 Ar-Pharazôn
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"Even the show case cities Moscow and Leningrad and Kiev could not mask the third world nature of the rest of the country."

since when a thirld world country send man to space? you know that guy galled gagarin.....

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:19 | 2904446 Hobbleknee
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Remember when 35,000 French died in a summer heatwave?

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:25 | 2904461 youngman
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I think it was two years ago in August they had a big heat wave...and they killed hundreds because they were on they are going to freeze them to to transport when frozen though..less smell too...aaaahhh..but they are French...they stink anyway..they can be buried in ther countries flag ....a white I am on a roll..or is that a croisant...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:29 | 2904480 Hobbleknee
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Actually, it was 2003 and 14,000 died.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:31 | 2904489 Stuck on Zero
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We, here in California, have had these policies for years.  Rates are so high for electricity and gas, above baseline usage, that it's cheaper to keep a diesel generator around the house than pay the electric bill.  Rates for average users reach $0.35 a kwh.  Diesel power runs $025.  I think Hollande took a lesson from the "successful" policies in California.  Successful meaning that all the high electricity users (people who work) leave the state.


Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:34 | 2904495 liszt
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By-the-way GM is owned by US government, from the United Soviets States of America.

You know why Holland is nasty, it' is because he isn't enough communist. That's the only grief i have to him. Yeah we should nationalize every thing, and put all financial and banking criminals into jail. Put and end to all free economic activity.

This will happen, soon or late. I'm for another kind of dictatorship as that we are leaving in, - when the majority rules, and not the wealthiest. This needs to put the wealthiest out of central power management, out of the State. "Fraternity" ends with money. We will cancel this capitalist cretinism that ruin the world, and make a great kibbutz, or alike :)

Nothing is endless

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:34 | 2904502 The big unzip
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The french should go ahead and surrender now.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:35 | 2904504 lolmao500
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And this is why you don't let women vote. Because they think government are their momies and they want to control everyone's lives... for the childrenz.

Since women vote, the police state/statism has risen a lot in western ``democracies``.

Stop women from voting!

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:42 | 2904525 Harbanger
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Sad but true. And now that men have become bitches there's no hope but a mass correction.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:25 | 2904958 Cathartes Aura
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best roll back you inner testy-clock to a time when only men were in voting charge, and women were trussed up in ridiculous clothing indoors.

when was that perfect time again?  lol my ao.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:39 | 2904512 filmflam
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Sorry Tyler, I know you are usually right about most things market-related, but if you did your homework, you would see that there is only a minor increase in educational achievement and that only kicks in when kids become teenagers. Norway scores highest on the rankings of education by country and they don't have homework. And they have much shorter school days.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:54 | 2905086 Umh
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I agree with you that most homework is pointless. The teachers give assignments without grading them frequently. Mostly the assignments are given so that the teachers can blame the children for the lack of achievement. At some point children need to work individually and learn to get things done without someone standing over them and coaxing the work out of them, but giving homework assignments to elementary students is mostly just bullshit.

On the other hand the reason Hollande gives for abolishing homework is almost completely bullshit.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 01:42 | 2907397 Camlon
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Norway number 1?! Try number 20 instead.

And Norway has homework. Only some crackpots suggests removing homework in Norway. They are made fun of in the media. 

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:48 | 2904529 steve from virginia
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Energy rationing is coming to a country/town/subdivision/house near you whether the Tyler Durdens of the world like it or not.


There is only so much fossil fuel energy and when it's gone it is gone forever as in millions of years forever.


Better to ration, there are other, more equitable ways but no need to go there here. Rationing is the (immediate) future. Better get used to it children there will be less. Period. No ifs, ands or buts ...


BTW: France's nuclear reactor park requires the ongoing services of a solvent, fully-functioniong, highly liquid, fossil fuel-driven industrial economy ... in order to keep 'the show' from melting down, blowing up, leaking, etc. France does not have a fully-functioning, highly liquid fossil fuel-driven industrial economy. It has a bunch of worthless used cars, smog and trillions of euros worth of non-redeemable debt. France has no way to service its gigantic debts. It must borrow to service. It must borrow even more to service the debts taken on to service debts. France is busted, flat, kablooey!


In order to avoid a calamity that will destroy the entire continent -- think Chernobyl-times-ten -- France will have to be incredibly, fabulously lucky. Its bosses will have to demonstrate wisdom and discipline that so far no government or group of bosses has given evidence of possessing.


"Do I feel lucky? ... well, do ya PUNK!"


It's not just France, it is ALL the countries with reactors ... that are now broke ...


"Uh huh ... I know what yr thinking ... did he fire six shots ... or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself ... but seeing as how this is a .44 magnum the most powerful handgun in the world ... and would blow your head clean off ... you've got to ask yourself one question ... "



Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:24 | 2904716 Marco
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In my opinion Europe as a whole will have to start switching to an electricity/methane driven industry sooner or later (I think the hydrogen economy is a non starter because of the massive conversion costs, conversion of existing equipment to CNG is much easier). At that point France's electricity production capacity will be invaluable, for electrocatalytic production of methane, at least in the short term (I think in the long term Northern Africa will become unbeatable in energy production price wise for the EU region).

This is of course assuming a happy ending rather than Mad Max.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:49 | 2904830 AnAnonymous
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There is no rationing.

'American' economics is all about consumption.

'Americans' in France (and elsewhere in the EMU) are going to be pushed under the train so that the resources they no longer consume can be released to maintain the 'american' middle class in other parts of the world.

France's nuclear issues is a continental problem.As they are 'american', they will sooner or later start a blackmailing scheme that if their nuclear plants go out, they will go out dirtily for a lot of people. Radioactivity knows no borders so neighbours will have to lend ears to the complaints or...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:40 | 2905026 Cathartes Aura
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more than any other story being told, this,

France's nuclear reactor park requires the ongoing services of a solvent, fully-functioniong, highly liquid, fossil fuel-driven industrial economy ... in order to keep 'the show' from melting down, blowing up, leaking, etc.

is what is being left out of all scenarios being considered for the "future" - and it's really the only one that will matter. 

the maintenance of what was set in motion is what will continue to bank-rupt(ure) the nationstate fictions going forward.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:20 | 2904531 THE DORK OF CORK
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They really need to dig up the bones of De Gaulle and splice & dice his genes or something.

There was a time not so long ago the French were almost giving away electrical space heaters so as to consume the Nuclear surplus.

Ever since EDF became a limited liability company in 2004~ it has not completed one single PWR either at home or abroad with the  outsourcing of workers in Finland for their plant turning into high farce.


Steve is incorrect on this one - the market state has consumed allmost all of its resourses on House and car grot leaving no surplus for capital growth.

Ireland spent 105 billion euros in 3 years on House and Hotel grot !!! (2005 -2007)

Thats enough for 10 reactors at the very least.

Our base load is 2 reactors.

Its a dramatic consumer credit malinvestment  crisis........

Heres how it worked under the nation state model.

Fiscal money is spent on REAL  capital energy investments.........there is a surplus of energy    , the banks produce consumer credit to eat the surplus.........

After the big bang of 1986 London just produced credit notes to run down the commons systems.

It was a privatisation of the commons that did it.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:43 | 2905041 Cathartes Aura
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After the big bang of 1986 London just produced credit notes to run down the commons systems.

It was a privatisation of the commons that did it.

bears repeating.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:45 | 2904541 gamera9
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This was Merkels idea, cold winter, lots of cognac and  people starting living room fires, Poof ! problem solved, although Air Quality wiil suffer.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:48 | 2904543 Pure Evil
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The best thing to do is to throw the old folks into the fireplace as soon as they freeze to death.

This way they don't go to waste as they did during the summer heat wave of 2003.

Soylent Fire Wood, BTFD.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:50 | 2904555 humblepie
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The municipality of Shanghai has a similar energy policy in force.  Residents pay a higher rate once consumption exceeds a preset level. While I was there in 2007-2010, I never had to paid the higher rate. Although I admit I was frugal with the air con and the heat. It was sauna in the summer and sweaters in the winter. However, it wasn't unbearable, as you can always turn on the a/c, but it was certainly easy on the wallet. My electricity bill was around 100-135 RMB per month. It's not high per USA standard of living, but it is about 5%-10% of the regular wage earner monthly salary. 

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 12:55 | 2904582 proLiberty
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Wesley Mouch and his Directive 10-289 strikes a blow for the little people!  Right straigh out of Atlas Shrugged.


Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:08 | 2904649 Marco
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"Of course, what the bill will ultimately achieve is to collapse revenue at the private (for now) corporations that actually provide electricity"

France is trying to increase reliance on electricity, but it's far from there ... the majority of the houses are fuel heated, gas in the urban areas and oil/wood where that's not available. The gas and oil have to be imported and face heavy price inflation now and even more going forward.

Consumers don't look ahead 10 years and see where the world is going, the French government apparently does ... you can disagree with the type of measures they are taking, but something has to be done. The days in which everyone but a few oil/gas producing countries have to become far less reliant on foreign fossil energy sources are dangerously near. Uranium will stay cheap for a decades to come, but fossil fuels not so much.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:13 | 2904672 mm17101978
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If you, dear ZH readers, wish to read a simple example of how messy the EU is....well here it is, courtesy of energy prices:

while most North Americans pay 11 US cents for a kilowatt of power, Italians pay anywhere from 15 to 30 cents (in Euros!) depending on how many kilowatt of power they ask for (depending on the size of the house).

Not to mention that a cubic meter of gas costs about one euro to lamost every type of residential contract in Italy.

So what if Gazprom shuts off the spigot????

Best regards.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:27 | 2904731 Marco
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If Gazprom shuts off the spigot? Chaos and suffering. Same as if Saudi Arabia does it for almost all of us ...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:15 | 2904682 dadichris
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"allowing banks to collapse" - i really like the sound of that

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:21 | 2904709 Joebloinvestor
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So the French are having "buyers remorse". 


They fucking deserve it.


The solution for a failing socialist state is not to elect a bigger socialist.


Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:50 | 2905069 lakecity55
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French President Frank Smith today outlawed wood-burning, as there are no trees left in France.

It is also the anniversary of the death of M Hollande, tossed into a bonfire by angry Frenchman this date 2 years ago.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:22 | 2904712 johnjkiii
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Liberté, égalité, fraternité or as the on. W.S. Churchill put it:

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:04 | 2904894 AnAnonymous
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As 'americans' have put the world on the path of depletion of resources, well, sharing misery has been somehow part of the plan from the beginning.

'Americans' has no other solutions but 'american' solutions.

And Indians are a scarce commodity these days, very scarce.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:04 | 2905798 Ar-Pharazôn
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americans? this system started well before americans even existed

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:47 | 2905060 lakecity55
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"Socialism sucks."

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:20 | 2904798 Joe A
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Just when meteorologists are expecting one of the coldest winters, ever.

Liberte, egalite, and lots of sitting with your fraternite under one blanket.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:43 | 2904804 AnAnonymous
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The analysis on education is totally off.

In 'american' nations, the 'american' middle class is the king class.

Voting is a middle class thing.

Rulers rule with the consent of the governed, that is the middle class.

The current crisis is revealing that the world is running out of enough resources to sustain the 'american' middle class in their standard of life.

That is the situation.

As 'american' politicians are servants to the middle class, they seek to get the consent of the middle class through their political decisions.

In 'american' countries, the education sectors are middle class institutions.

So by this decision, the politicians seek the consent of the middle class in several ways:

-first, it reduces the workload of the teachers, who are middle class.

Second, it will favour the entrenched middle class as those ones will give themselves a competitive edge by hiring tutors and give their kids an increased workload and more specific tuition.
In most cases, they will hire professionals who will happen to be the teachers (middle class) whose workload has been reduced (no longer homework to read or correct etc)

As resources grow scarce, the middle class will want to get the future secure. And this goes through decreasing the efficiency of others to compete for middle class jobs.

Training a lot of people, in 'american' economics, go smoothly in an expansive environment. It helps speeding up consumption.

But as the environment is contracting, training many people will only create resentment. The 'american' middle class will organize through communauty spirit (communaulism) to hire their own first, leaving the proficient from lower class on the buns, full of resentment.

With this astute political decision, the risks that a lower class kid manages to acquire proficient training is decreased, leaving more room for the 'american' middle class to prevail.

It is once again of what 'americans' call a government of the people, by the people, for the people, the people being the 'american' middle class.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:49 | 2904827 Theta_Burn
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Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:50 | 2904835 AnAnonymous
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Dont ask, act.

'Americanism' is as 'american' does.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:56 | 2904854 Marco
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He sees everything from an American centric point of view, which distorts his reasoning quite a bit ... he thinks everything is manipulated to sustain the US trade deficit to benefit Americans.

TPTB have no care for national boundaries whatsoever of course, any benefit not to the global elite is merely happenstance really.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:02 | 2904886 AnAnonymous
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Again with this scam?

'Americans' are proponents of 'americanism'

'Americanism' is not a nationality but what was started on 1776, July, 4th and that is now dominating the world.

The US of A is the mecca of 'americanism' but there are many other 'american' nations around the world.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:50 | 2905072 Cathartes Aura
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He sees everything from an American centric point of view, which distorts his reasoning quite a bit ... he thinks everything is manipulated to sustain the US trade deficit to benefit Americans.

hilarious!  as if the global economy hasn't been feeding the amrkn consumer post WW2, based on manufacturing & a "military" that works on behalf of corporations, ensuring their slave labours & fascist governments globally, the takers continue to take.

amrka has been propped up by the backs of peoples the world over, but this is obviously not sustain-able.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:24 | 2904956 Joe A
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" As 'american' politicians are servants to the middle class". Wrong, American politicians are the servants of Wallstreet and the bankers' class. Currently, the American middle class is being destroyed and more and more people are lower class and depend on goverment handouts.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 18:08 | 2905620 Cathartes Aura
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applying "currently" to your statement may work "currently" but for decades the politicians have appealed to the aspiring class, aka "middle" because it won't let it'self be known as "lower" - this is all being swept under aspiring class carpets as the bills continue to pile up behind the front door mail slots. . .

politicians pay lip service to the voters, and mouth service to the bankers.  just a question of depth really.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 15:44 | 2905271 lakecity55
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Now we know how France lost Canada.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 11:02 | 2906284 toomanyfakecons...
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Perhaps Canada will lose Quebec, but your point is taken.

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 11:56 | 2993561 crawl
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So the French livestock farmers can soon make a market for turds as dried patties for cooking and heating, once the trees are gone.

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