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New York City Peak Threat Hours: 7-10 PM When The Flooding Begins
As meteorologists have been repeating all day, the biggest threat for NYC is not so much the rain, or even the wind, dangling cranes hundreds of feet above ground notwithstanding, but the storm surge. The threat here is that Hurricane Sandy will hit land just as the tide comes in, resulting in a double whammy which Wunderground has called a "gigantic bulge of water that will raise waters levels to the highest storm tides ever seen in over a century of record keeping." Add to this the impact of the full moon, which means that high tide will be 5% higher than average for the month, and Wunderground's conclusion is inevitable: "This is a higher destructive potential than any hurricane observed since 1969, including Category 5 storms like Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Camille, and Andrew." How high are we talking: Sandy's storm surge will be capable of overtopping the flood walls in Manhattan, which are only five feet above mean sea level... According to the latest storm surge forecast for NYC from NHC, Sandy's storm surge is expected to be 10 - 12' above MLLW. Since a storm tide of 10.5' is needed to flood the subway system, it appears likely that portions of the NYC subway system will flood." Luckily for all, the NY Fed's tungsten gold, which is 50 feet below sea level (and 80 feet below the surface) and is in the Zone C flood evacuation area, will be perfectly "safe." And after all tungsten gold will never just float away.
From Wundeground:
Sandy already producing a record storm surge
The National Weather Service in Atlantic City, NJ said that isolated record storm surge flooding already occurred along portions of the New Jersey coast with this morning's 7:30 am EDT high tide cycle. As the tide goes out late this morning and this afternoon, water levels will fall, since the difference in water levels between low tide and high tide is about 5'. However, this evening, as the core of Sandy moves ashore, the storm will carry with it a gigantic bulge of water that will raise waters levels to the highest storm tides ever seen in over a century of record keeping, along much of the coastline of New Jersey and New York. The peak danger will be between 7 pm - 10 pm, when storm surge rides in on top of the high tide. The full moon is today, which means astronomical high tide will be about 5% higher than the average high tide for the month, adding another 2 - 3" to water levels. This morning's 9:30 am EDT H*Wind analysis from NOAA's Hurricane Research Division put the destructive potential of Sandy's winds at a modest 2.9 on a scale of 0 to 6. However, the destructive potential of the storm surge was record high: 5.8 on a scale of 0 to 6. This is a higher destructive potential than any hurricane observed since 1969, including Category 5 storms like Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Camille, and Andrew. The previous highest destructive potential for storm surge was 5.6 on a scale of 0 to 6, set during Hurricane Isabel of 2003. Sandy's storm surge will be capable of overtopping the flood walls in Manhattan, which are only five feet above mean sea level. On August 28, 2011, Tropical Storm Irene brought a storm surge of 4.13' and a storm tide of 9.5' above MLLW to Battery Park on the south side of Manhattan. The waters poured over the flood walls into Lower Manhattan, but came 8 - 12" shy of being able to flood the New York City subway system. According to the latest storm surge forecast for NYC from NHC, Sandy's storm surge is expected to be 10 - 12' above MLLW. Since a storm tide of 10.5' is needed to flood the subway system, it appears likely that portions of the NYC subway system will flood. The record highest storm tide at The Battery was 10.5', set on September 15, 1960, during Hurricane Donna.
Observed storm tide (red line) and predicted storm surge for Hurricane Sandy at The Battery on the south shore of Manhattan, New York City, from the experimental Extratropical Storm Surge model, run by NOAA"s Meteorological Development Laboratory (green line) and the NYHOPS model from the Stevens Institute of Technology (pink curve), which uses a highly detailed 3D ocean model and even includes rainfall and tributary inflows. These models have a storm surge of 5 - 6', which brings the maximum storm tide--the water level reached as a result of the combined action of the tide and the storm surge--to 11' above MLLW (Mean Lower Low Water.) Irene brought a storm tide of 9.5' above MLLW to The Battery in 2011. At a storm tide of 10.5', water will likely pour into the Lower Manhattan subway system, unless efforts to sandbag the entrances are successful. The NWS in NYC is predicting a 10 - 12' storm tide at The Battery during tonight's 9 pm high tide cycle.
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And with 4 hours until the peak surge, NYC's Battery is already underwater.
Photo courtesy of @The_Domino
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As a Red Sox fan, I have to say I couldn't be happier that Sandy is zeroing in on NY. Hopefully it will flood Yankmee Stadium first, then hopefully the fed. Maybe they'll have to pump it out and find out there is no gold there.
has anyone thought about Plumb Island? what kind of nasties will be released if it floods.
What harm could some old bio-weapon stocks do?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_Island_Animal_Disease_Center
Plum
The "b" (for biological warfare matter) got washed away many years ago causing all sorts of havoc; demise of oysters and lobsters in LI Sound as well as Lyme Disease (first appeared directly across from said island in CT city of Lyme, CT, hence the name shortly after large experiments concerning utilizing ticks as carriers of deadly diseases released massive numbers of contaminated insects into the environment).. plus others.
Remember, when Hillary was running for NY Senator, she'd promised to close Plum Island and shortly after winning, she dropped the topic like a "hot" potato (get it, hot?) after several conferences with TPTB
Federalies, Foreward!
zombies in the hamptons...freaky...ohhh the horror
Ooooh so glad I just sold my boat; won't have to worry about ol' Plum when going through the Race anymore.
No, the peak threat occurs in 96 to 120 hours. Maybe later as the rats consume all available local food/water/stuff in their range of motion.
Then the fun starts.
- Ned
Shit's getting real here in Connecticut....crazy wind and waves on the Gold Coast. Hunkering down....
Tyler, you really need to do a better word check so there are not so many important words crossed out. It will surely confuse the brilliant ones on MSM who look here for the real truth after their teleprompter worthless broadcasts. What I really mean is, "your slip of the pen" is priceless.
LMAO. Thank You Zero Hedge.
Please please drown Fucking Hamptons
Here's another link. Already surpassed Irene, 2hrs till high tide
http://tidesonline.nos.noaa.gov/plotcomp.shtml?station_info=8518750+The+Battery%2C+NY#
We've musta been posting at the same time... :)
"And with 4 hours until the peak surge, NYC's Battery is already underwater."
Just brilliant preparations and forsight by NY State
they're as inept as NY regulators at stopping systemic flooding, drowning, collapse and crisis
Last one out of New York switch the light off.. if it's even working!!!!
According to a majority of asshats here, Sandy is a nothing burger, real 'canes only happen in Fla. and the Gulf....
from what i understand the 'cane is not the problem, the storm tide is the biggy
with a NY State mandated and regulatory approved safety net (cough) of a 5 foot sea wall, and walls breached already with the storm tidal surge nowehere near peak yet this ain't lookin too good for NY
damn you ZG. Now I know this floody-wavy shit is getting serious. You didn't say "stop paying your taxes".
And I can only find one friggin' water wing....shit...CB
ZG, I don;t think it would be splitting hairs to say that surge wouldn't exist unless there was a 'cane.... n'est ce que pas?
Pretty much...great surfing with Cat Ones.
I really expected some down to earth witticisms from the high browed NE crowd, instead of all the cringing & wringing of hands that their lights might be out for a few days.
Prolly ran around in such a panic the empty gas cylinder for the grill was forgotten about too.
Ah well ;-)
Its hard to post when the power is out....
I'm lucky so far... fingers crossed....
No, it is very serious! This just in:
Individually-wrapped slices of American cheese, traveling at the speed of sound, caused sonic booms all along the easten seaboard this evening. The governor of North Carolina issued a statement asking coastal residents to pray long and hard throughout the night.
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79oupdate.phtml
Here's a real-time composite data on water levels to go with that picture:
http://tidesonline.nos.noaa.gov/plotcomp.shtml?station_info=8518750+The+Battery%2C+NY
The power is out in parts of central Jersey.
so the sea walls are breached and the powers going down and the storms not warmed up yet
...thank heavens the salt shakers have NY marxist-mandated holes, we wouldn't want New Yorkers being too salty
NY State: looking out for your safe salt levels on all fronts
YouTube - Hurricane Sandy - LIVE from Red Hook (6:10 pm EST)
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exciting video..
Crack open a few hundred million hollow points for post Sandy Looterpalooza NY 2012.
A bit of wind and rain so the global center of capitalism has to shut down. Beyond embarrasing. I'm on the upper east side and this thing is a minor storm at best. The hype and exaggeration surrounding it has been something to behold.
Right now I am going outside to dance around a lamp post with my umbrella. I LAUGH IN THE FACE OF SANDY. What happened to NY's indominatable spirit? Times for folks around here to MAN-UP and get back to work.
Around 5:00pm my power went out for like 2 seconds..
Had to reset a couple clocks becuz of it..
This is getting serious, folks...!!
Its already hitting Indiana!?!?
God is angry about the cons on Wall St.
He's apparently slow to anger.
(dupe)
Nucky Thompson will be p1ssed at the state of Atlantic City after this.
meanwhile in DC, things are getting crazy on the ground.
DHS should be breaking out the freedom delivery vehicles soon!
I'm very concerned about the worlds gold reserves stored in below ground vaults in New York. I can see it now...
"we regret to inform you that your gold in storage has water damage, yes it is ruined...through no fault of this institution blahblahblah you're screwed."
think Gold's left untarnished after a dip in water ...Silver's another matter
...not that NY has any Silver, JP Morgan has hypothicated the lot as they've been underwater for years
Good thing SF won the baseball game last night. And imagine if the Yankees hadn't lost to Detroit.