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Guest Post: Obama Wins A Second Term: Now What?
Submitted by Ron Holland via The Daily Bell,
I'm certainly glad the election is finally over. While I have loved politics my entire life, this presidential election has gone on for over three years, including the GOP primaries, and I've had my fill of meaningless slogans and counter-slogans, lies and counter-lies. I had to quit watching political news the last few weeks, as I thought I would become physically sick if I watched any more establishment political "experts" give their required opinions and propaganda bites.
The 2012 presidential election has been like a ballgame hyped and built up over three years. We are programed to cheer and act out our sheep-like roles in partisan politics when, like the game, unless we have money bet on the outcome the actual winner will have absolutely no impact on our lives.
This was destined to be a close, statistically tied election, as get out the vote efforts included repetitive harping on its life-changing importance and the evils of the opposition candidates and party. The bottom line is that voting percentages generate credibility for the failed American political system.
"There's not a dime's worth of difference between the Democrat and Republican parties." George Wallace, 1966 Alabama governor and presidential candidate.
Note it now takes 71 cents to equal the purchasing power of a dime in 1966 – if you believe the false inflation statistics out of Washington. Actually, I could buy a soft drink for a dime in 1966 whereas today it is closer to $1.50. Check house prices even with the pullback or college tuition if you want an accurate inflation estimate.
It is reasonable to expect from Obama's second term more of the same as the first four years. The two main US political parties promote nearly identical policies; nothing will change from earlier Bush and Clinton administration policies. Of course, there will be a burst of optimism from Democrats and the usual rallying cries for everybody to come together to meet the challenges of the moment. This is just the usual garbage fed to the voting public after every presidential election.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but both presidents and the representatives we reelect to Congress only represent the powerful banking and economic interests that control the federal government and use it to further their power elite agenda. Real, productive citizens can only look to their government representatives to solve minor bureaucratic issues on lost checks, eligibility for this program or that or to listen only to their complaints and agenda.
In reality, the Senate and House of Representatives by necessity – except in the case of those few with actual philosophical convictions on the right or the left – only represent and govern based on the financial handouts and doors opened by powerful interests. This is the only way they can be reelected.
Why Romney Lost
Romney lost for two main reasons:
First, as he correctly noted during the campaign, 47 percent of American families are dependent on government handouts and they voted for what was in their own best interests. Democracy is mob rule and the 47 percent, although with the best of intentions, are still only a mob out to get what they can from others who have earned or produced the wealth in the private sector.
"There are 47 percent who are with [Obama], who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it." – Mitt Romney
Still, there is a positive outcome with this depressing statistic. First, many government employees and those on the dole understand the problems of bureaucracy far better than Americans in the private sector because they are caught in the government trap themselves. They often have the courage to even vote against their best interests because they see what it has done to them personally.
Every TSA agent and government employee in non-essential services outside of the armed forces, real police and fire protection and real teachers – not the hundreds of thousands of unionized, make-work employees who use the system – are simply parasites.
Second, the GOP leadership antagonized the 10 percent of the Republican Party electorate who supported Ron Paul for President. Of course, the establishment is still deathly scared of the Ron Paul movement and their harsh treatment and the subsequent blowback on November 6 guarantees any discussion here will be verboten and seldom mentioned for obvious reasons. While some voted for Romney, a few – as the returns show – voted third-party and many like me just sat home on election day disgusted at the entire political charade. Romney lost because he needed a majority of this 10 percent to win yet those controlling his campaign simply threw this voting block away because it threatened powerful central banking, neocon and moneyed interests supporting the GOP.
While Romney would have made a better president than Obama in at least his rhetoric, as he pays lip service to conservative Republican values, in reality his neocon controllers would probably have made him a disaster in foreign policy.
And so over the next four years the people will be provoked and buy more guns they will never have the courage to use to defend themselves against an all-powerful government. The GOP will raise more money using faux social issues and an agenda they never really have any interest in standing up for. Obama will be painted as an evil, Muslim-born in God-knows-where socialist when in actuality he has no more power than Romney would have had to restore the America we loved and respected.
The game will go on until the time is up for our nation. In the meantime, austerity measures will dramatically increase, benefits and promises will be lost by the poor and remaining middle class citizens who really need them and taxes will rise, as will the risk of gold and wealth confiscation. Obama will be blamed, just as Romney would have been blamed had he been elected president, for this is how our regulatory/debt democracy works today in the 21st century. A failed system of central bank control leading a failed economy, a failing currency and a controlled system totally divorced from control or limitation by the citizens of America.
The Solution is to Change the Political Structure
The solution is a return to a limited, decentralized confederation form of government like our first legitimate American government, the Articles of Confederation. One that is responsible to the people and ultimately controlled by the voters with the iron-clad political tools of initiative and referendum like exists in Switzerland today, where voters have the right to reject legislation and laws or enact laws outside the power of controlled legislative, judiciary and executive branches of government. Until we return to the Articles of Confederation, America and our liberties are doomed to extinction by the hidden control of international banking and economic elites.
After the election you can expect appeals from "so-called" conservatives or libertarians wanting your hard-earned money to support this or that cause. They will claim time is running out, the next election is the most important in your lifetime, etc. Time is not running out; it ran out long ago, and voting for either party or most candidates is just an exercise in futility supporting the corrupt system that rules over you. We are serfs and mere subjects to a system and few understand or even recognize the control over us.
If you want to be a free people again educate yourself on the Swiss system of government and work for a return to the government for which our patriot founding fathers risked their lives and property, the Articles of Confederation. Supporting anything less is just deceiving ourselves and screwing our posterity. We may deserve the kind of government we have allowed to take over our country but our posterity deserve better.
The GOP Ron Paul for President campaigns in 2008 and 2012 clearly showed how the controlled, two-party system in the United States will allow no real opposition to its approved candidates in either party. You can bet your worthless vote that new Republican Party rules at the 2012 GOP convention and at the state level in the future will control any viable opposition candidates. The only current outlets for alternative political action are in doomed-to-fail third-party activities that are little more than allowed but controlled political opposition.
To restore the original American Republic, we must change the controlled monopoly political system of government that controls and destroys internally or externally all opposition. New candidates or even attempts at party control accomplish little when the same powerful interests control the political structure. We must work to remove the system in place and restore the limited government of our founding fathers, for they had devised a system that would work well today with our ease of transportation and communication.
Remember, our children and grandchildren deserve a better, more prosperous world and nation than we have left them at this point. It is time we as a generation man up for liberty to redeem ourselves in the tear-filled eyes of future generations. The American people must work peacefully to restore the Articles of Confederation now or else suffer the permanent consequences of the fall of America.
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Most particularly we will hear "Its not my fault" or "Its not our fault" a great deal.
DP
"We are programed to cheer and act out our sheep-like roles in partisan politics when, like the game, unless we have money bet on the outcome the actual winner will have absolutely no impact on our lives."
Then I guess it's off to the shearing pens as planned.
<Baa baa black sheep.>
<Baa baa black sheep.>
<...you didn't have to cuuuut meee offff!...>
there. fixed it for you.
Now what?
Fitch just warned the U.S. to cut out the overspending. No leaked pics of Obama doubled over in hysterics.
That is the preview of "now what?" The constant battle between reality and insanity. Get ready for four steady years of WTF moments.
In 2015 people will look at 2012 like it was a dream world.
"Fitch just warned the U.S. to cut out the spending."
Please! That's not even worth a discussion, since Fitch will fold once Obama orders the SEC/DoJ to investigate Fitch, as he did with S&P. It really doesn't matter if Fitch downgraded the US anyway since the Fed now finances gov't spending. If the US Credit rating was downgraded to Junk, US treasury rates would still remain near zero because the Fed will just buy it all if necessary.
"In 2015 people will look at 2012 like it was a dream world."
Are you kidding? its already a Nightmare!
"Get ready for four steady years of WTF moments."
How is that diffrent from the past 10 years? Not a year has gone by since 2000 where there hasn't been a WTF moment: 2000 DotCom Bust, 2001 9/11, 2002 Enron, 2003 Iraq, 2004 Greenspan drops rates to 1%, 2005 Katria, 2006 housing Bubble goes manic, 2007 Collapse of the Housing Bubble, 2008 $140/bbl oil, Lehman Collapse, Economic Collapse... And so on.
At a certain point, One become detached to crises, and just accepts them as the norm.
Trade the nespresso for a walk in the park, just once.
The solution is a return to a limited, decentralized confederation form of government like our first legitimate American government, the Articles of Confederation.
Heavens to Betsy - where do you find these people? There will never be anywhere near a majority will to make this happen either.
A multi-cultural democracy (unconstrained by other laws which is pretty much now the case) will vote itself more of other people’s stuff until there is no more stuff.
Get your affairs in order.
I agree. We should be students of Russian, German and Italian history to see how things will play out here.
See you guys in a hundred years.
Cent'anni!
It's all about the size of the gang. Smaller gangs are more agile, yet also susceptible to being overrun by a much larger gang.
Can't see it changing anytime soon, either.
Agree completely.
There was never a majority that favored the revolution in 1776 either. Most Americans were killed by EACH OTHER(tories/rebels) during the war.
Sometimes, you have to get past the programing.
Is today going to be Bernanke and Kevin's finest hour? Can they show that they can prop this thing up post election? Can they shave off a few hundred points by close? Have the MSM jumping up and down with pom poms by 4pm? Let's see. My guess is yes.
well, they won't try too hard YET. They know that this is all kabuki theatre designed to scare the everloving shit out of the pols first... I'd say maybe another 1000 dow points over the next week should just about make their point
And don't forget: Obama is not beholden to Wall Street, that's why the market goes down because he won. LOL, good sound bite.
No need to prop up the market. The election has been won. Now the slide can resume until Ben has enough "evidence" of a recession to unleash some real quantitative easing measures. Not this $40 billion a month to the banks bullshit.
Duds dreaming. Romney lost over a strong use of the race card and white liberals feeling empowered. You think any election in the future can be white only? Wake-up smell the coffee.
And because he didn't promise enough handouts.
All you need to do is make more promises than the other candidate. It does matter if you deliver on them. If you want to win the WH make these promises: Clean Air, Cheap Gas, Better-Bigger Entitlements, Better Subsidized Healthcare, more jobs, better paying jobs, More subsidizes for Education, tax Cuts for everyone! If that does do it, throw-in legalize pot (can't lose with that one!)
"And because he didn't promise enough handouts."
It was worse, he promised *work*!
C'mon, break a sweat for money? What kind of fool falls for that?
Worked for GW.
Romney lost because he was the candidate for a party that now only has racism and bible beating at it's core. He had the racism down, but the bible beaters had to hold their nose to vote for a cultist. It was funny though watching them perform mental contortionism trying to justify it. I just hope they didn't displease Jeebus, otherwise they won't get tickets to the big football game in the sky.
And he didn't promise enough free shit.
that scking sound you hear is 80% of us wealth on its way outa here.
"that scking sound you hear is 80% of us wealth on its way outa here."
Where is going when there are Capital Controls in place? Americans can no longer open bank accounts in foriegn countries. The Name of the game is now Plutocracy for the uber rich and politically connected. Slavery and depostism for the working class, who will be forced to redistribute their wealth to wealthfare recipients and the rich and politically powerful.
outa here into where?
After hacking Ron Paul and people voice now we can head south toward SP500 600 and unemployment of 12 % . Safely any protest and objection will be meet with brute force from legitimat elected institutions .
Tyler, could we please get back to the regularly scheduled program? How about a story on Greece going broke or something?
Hate to say it, but it looks like things have slid some since ABC logo appeared. Kinda like uncle ruperts effect on Barrons/WSJ...
socially net-working.
doesn't.
I'm just glad Obama probably won't be appointing douchebags like Scalia, Alito, and Thomas to the Supreme Court, to lifetime appointments. Sometimes a president can do decades of damage to our country.
Social issues seemed to matter this time around, since most of realize there is little difference in economic matters between these parties (or the people who control them that is).
These days "social" issues + government = economic issues in case you haven't noticed.
Then: Birth control was more or less illegal, then it became legal. That's great.
Now: We have to buy it every month for Georgetown law school students.
"Now: We have to buy it every month for Georgetown law school students."
Laws making it illegal to pee standing up can't be far behind.
http://www.thelocal.se/41358/20120611/
Living under matriarchy should prove... interesting. Look at the black community in places like Detroit for example, or the chav community in the UK. Haiti is another shining example. Even poor and working class whites in the US have a 40% illegitimate birth rate (and climbing).
Welp... it's off to the gun shop.
you're a prime example of self-absorption and uniformed opinion. you've no idea what "living under matriarchy" even means, as it doesn't actually exist,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy
intentionally chose a bland wiki reference. . .
"you've no idea what 'living under matriarchy' even means"
Strike! Fish on.
Sure I do. Characterized by: serial polyandry, unrestrained hypergamy (80% of women having sex with 40% of men), plethora of single moms, marginalization of fatherhood, plethora of disenfranchised men, female hyperagency through the State where the government takes the place of fathers (which of course just reinforces all of the destructive behaviors). See: previous examples.
Drone on some more about the "oppressed" class here in the US under your idiotic, feminist "patriarchy theory." Do you realize that the human race is descended from twice as many as these, poor "oppressed" female creatures as men? Nature and human society tend to treat males harshly compared to females. Males are the disposable utilities of nature.
This is the "oppressed" class that, here in the US: makes up the safest demographic, is far less likely to be the victim of violent crime, is less likely to die from leading causes of death, lives longer than their "oppressors", is less likely to be homeless, labors under safer workplace conditions, is twice as happy with life, is less likely to commit suicide, has a higher net worth at the median, controls most household spending, etc., etc., etc.
Hilarious. You are severely detached from reality. Who knows where you were indoctrinated into all this nonsense. A church masquerading as an institution of "higher learning." What a waste of energy.
"If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts." ~Camille Paglia (dissident feminist)
*yawns*
nice descriptives of the current system after decades of porn culture de-stabilised the social narrative set up post WW2, nuclear family, et al.
your defense of your reality - not mine, yours - is based on a perspective culled from popular culture, which has been intentionally driven off a cliff by those who plant the memes, and reap the benefits of entranced viewers emulating, repeatedly. if fathers are an endangered species it's because many of them are so immature they can't even support themselves, financially or emotionally, let alone a family. and yes, gov't is more than happy to step in and keep the balls rollin' - cannon fodder, don'tcha know - but again, are men stepping up and recognising this? nope, they play into the "war between the sexes" and moan about feminists taking all their jobs, etc. - rarely looking at the big picture, just lateral pointing of fingers. know this, you can't have a "matriarchy" when the majority of rule-makers and enforcers are and have been men.
I'm intentionally, severely detached from YOUR reality, and others like you, full of blame, vitriol and hatred, not to mention the twisting of reality to fit your agenda. I'm mostly self-educated after lengthy purging of a childhood full of lies told me to "fit in" with the rest of the sickos that inhabit this culture, and in my sampling of lived experiences, I have more knowledge about humans than you have labels for them.
and "nature" has no preferences, but most men do indeed treat each other, and everyone else, very poorly - be it wars, religions, nationstates, colonising, lawmakers & enforcers. . . oh, yes, I could go on and on, absolute majority male socialised as men - nothing matriarchal about this at all. the last matriarchal cultures amrkns found, Lakota, Iroquios, etc. - they murdered, with extreme prejudice and celebration.
Camille Paglia? *eye roll* yes, she's hella popular with the men who love porn. put there for a reason.
"nice descriptives of the current system after decades of porn culture de-stabilised the social narrative set up post WW2, nuclear family, et al."
Porn is to blame for the destruction of the nuclear family? lol. Porn has been around as long as civilization, fool. Both men and women have been objectified since the beginning. Patently ridiculous.
"if fathers are an endangered species it's because many of them are so immature they can't even support themselves, financially or emotionally, let alone a family."
Yet the overwhelming majority of divorces are initiated by women. And it's the monkey-vining women (naturally) trying to increase their genetic fitness via hypergamy and serial polyandry that are giving birth to all the fatherless children. How typically infantile to attempt to blame others for decisions that women are ultimately responsible for. It's feminist policies enacted by government (favoring/enabling women) and birth control that changed the social dynamic with respect to the nuclear family, not porn.
"know this, you can't have a 'matriarchy' when the majority of rule-makers and enforcers are and have been men."
Yes, actually you can. If the rules are set up to benefit women at the expense of men. And you are ignoring all of the ways that women have traditionally excercized power outside of the board room and legislative houses. Men are overwhelmingly raised by women (the hand that rocks the cradle). And taught primarily by women in school. Then there is the power exemplified by the white feather girls during WWI: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/11/first-world-war-white-feather-cowardice.
What you most certainly can't have is an "oppressed" class that: makes up the safest demographic, is far less likely to be the victim of violent crime, is less likely to die from leading causes of death, lives longer than their "oppressors", is less likely to be homeless, labors under safer workplace conditions, is twice as happy with life, is less likely to commit suicide, has a higher net worth at the median, controls most household spending.
These are the inconvenient facts (which I note you ignore) that render your patriarchy theory a nonsense.
"and 'nature' has no preferences,"
Right. If you ignore the entire field of evolutionary biology. Your "self-education" has some gaping holes in it.
porn culture, which differs from old-skool titty mags, and racy novellas, etc. - but you know what? I don't care to argue with you - your insistence on using gendered absolutes when in fact, "gender" is a cultural training of how to be a good citizen in two distinct flavours that are in a culturally constructed "war" with each other - this whole "women are ruining amrka" style of divide and rule bores me, it's like voter preference of who's yer daddy, and although I'm sure we could go round and round with internet cites, I'll just leave you with this,
matriarchynoun (Concise Encyclopedia)
Social system in which familial and political authority is wielded by women. Under the influence of Charles Darwin's theories of evolution and, particularly, the work of the Swiss anthropologist Johann Jakob Bachofen (b. 1815, Basel, Switz.—d. 1887, Basel), some 19th-century scholars believed that matriarchy followed a stage of general promiscuity and preceded male ascendancy (patriarchy) in human society's evolutionary sequence. Like other elements of the evolutionist view of culture, the notion of matriarchy as a universal stage of development is now generally discredited, and the modern consensus is that a strictly matriarchal society has never existed. Nevertheless, in those societies in which matrilineal descent occurs, access to socially powerful positions is mediated through the maternal line of kin. See also sociocultural evolution.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/matriarchy
What now? That's easy. War with Iran and the financial train wreck that we've somehow managed to put off this far, of course.
What Obama managed to coalesce in the popular vote* : the black vote, the hispanic vote and the educated young white yuppy vote. The demographics were in his favour as all these groups are on the UP.
So the divide seems not based on economic cleavage but social groups; its the wrong language to say it was the 47% who live on handouts vs the others who stand on their own feet who voted blue/red respectively, as the tea party would have us belief.
Does not look like that argument is the defining line in this vote population wise.
Also for the delegate votes his Olligarchy connections as incumbent allowed him to get the swing states of electors.
This IMO is the reason he is once again incumbent. Both angles were determinant for him, and Romney was on the wrong track and maybe, maybe, he also riled those tea party guys who didn't come out for him. Repub divide was another minus for him.
What now? Fiscal cliff and deleveraging of banking sector, and tightening of government sector. How tight will be the cut back of defense; how big will be the government offense on infrastructure and how big will be the tax hike; all this we will find out, depending on red/blue trade offs in Congress.
* correction : And Women's vote was clearly massive for O'b.
according to the Fox News exit poll linked above, "women" were 53% of voters, and of those, 55% voted Obama, 44% Romney.
hardly "massive" in any direction. and if "women" voted "Obama" maybe some chose not to let the RePugs decide their body sovereignty.
Can we break ZH into two separate sections: incisive news/analysis and cranky fartheads?
There's an ap for that.
Read the articles that contain charts, and don't read/post to the comment section. Sorry you're too fucking stupid to be able to figure that out on your own.
Oh, and if you brave the comment section, as a rule, comments that contain "Kenyan" and/or"Marxist" can be safely skipped...
(Including this one).....
Edit: almost forgot, "Isreal" and "Joo" are clues as well...
there are other "key words" to scroll over. . . but agree the scrolling is proving to be a bore.
The US sheeple voted into power someone who has been proven as useless and broken his promises. He has kept the banksters in power and not prosecuted any of those responsible. He has made laws so he can murder anyone he wants without trial. Soon he will be tracking everyone he wants at will.
Well done US, welcome to your continued enslavement
And electing Romney would have made things different how, exactly...?
Keep thinking this way and the Republican party is extinct. The 1% just proved to be a mill stone tied around the neck of the Republican party.
Really??? The Soros 1%?
Don't forget: Buffet, Blankfein, Corzine, Dimon, etc.
When the joobux is no good no more they lose power. Period.
Got fuck yourself Ron Holland....
You left out the third and biggest reason: When the republicans had a chance to do something about immigration, they punted. Now they are reaping the seeds that they had sown. The moron idea that they could "win over" Hispanic voters was lunacy from the start. As this group continues to grow, the republican victories and influence will continue to recede. They signed their own death certificate.
... while Obama signed his own birth certificate.
Whats up xenophobe? Read much? Doubt it....
Anyone still talking about a birth cert. is a fucking moron...
The dude's joke was funny. And anyone who makes multiple posts rather than simply editing their existing post is a moron.
You tell em, Riot- quit questioning authority, drink the Kool-Aid.......
Grow the 47% higher and higher to make sure statists win every election till the end of times.
We've got a law for that: Naturalization and Immigration Act of 1965
I guesthing smart thing to do now (arge!!) is to start taking EBT...
You're right ... Electroshock Brain Therapy might deaden the sense of horror.
obama must replace geithner and holder. That will be a good start. In fact I would like to see some teeth put back into justice department. Obama can restore some semblance of credibility by prosecuting mortgage frauds, not just by banks and mortgage brokers but also individuals who lied on mortgage application with intent of flipping property for gain.
funny
One upside: for the first time in twenty years, we won't have the Clintons haranguing and mocking us from their customary perch in public office.
Adios y'all! Don't come back now, ya hear?
It seems obvious to me that your God, republicans - just doesn't love you enough. And you might consider hanging some non-whites because you're obviously not going hard-enough right on immigration. And what I find most ironic is the pap you're eating that says no repubs are included in the 47% whom get govt assistence in one form or other.
Fuck y'all. Go even harder right - and try again next time ;)
Hard right?!? Are you serious? Just what about that campaign was hard right?!?
I didn't say it was a hard right campaign that was lost. Though I think your base is completely fucking nuts and overall that evangelical-chained pap is losing taste in the country. And don't even get me started on the 'only repubs own businesses or pay taxes' crap either that your overlords spew. Repubs are out of touch with science, women, religion, non-whites and...and it's too bad because most people anywhere want less taxes and less govt interference - it's just repubs package it with so much old-fashioned non-sensical baggage.
I know you got a lot of down votes, but are you essentially saying that a libertarian-esque platform would be more successful? I would agree, but there is no way in hell those ideas are ever going to see the light of day here. Totalitarianism is the M.O. of both parties.
A bilingual libertarian hispanic female candidate.
Repubs are out of touch with science, women, religion, non-whites and...and it's too bad because most people anywhere want less taxes and less govt interference
Except women and non-whites.
GO FUCK YOURSELF, HARD.
Fixed your post
Thank you for that correction. It is obvious that most of the posters here are smart, but sometimes they just cannot see what is staring them in the face. The 47% are just people who paid no income tax last year. They are not recipients of "handouts". For the nth time, the 47% includes all family owned businesses who paid 15% payroll taxes but did not make enough income, after legal deductions, to owe income tax. Those family owned businesses paid a higher percentage of their income in taxes than Romney paid, and they were not fooled by his diatribe. Why are so many ZHers so blind to this fact?
Or here's another "handout" to people who don't pay income taxes: veteren benefits. Do ZH readers really think that a war vet considers that a handout? Or that they appreciate hearing this crap from a man who dodged the draft by bicycling through France trying to convert Catholics to Mormons? Or who has five sons, none of whom has served?
My favorite "takers" are the legions of wealthy elderly who pay no income tax on their municipal bond interest income but receive thousands of dollars of Medicare benefits each year. They are part of the 47%, too, but somehow I don't think Romney meant to call them takers. The irony is that of all the people I describe above, they are the only ones who actually receive something they didn't pay for, either through other taxes or in service to the country.
Nice....
"Or here's another "handout" to people who don't pay income taxes: veteren benefits. Do ZH readers really think that a war vet considers that a handout? Or that they appreciate hearing this crap from a man who dodged the draft by bicycling through France trying to convert Catholics to Mormons? Or who has five sons, none of whom has served?"
I wonder what Ayn Rand would have said about this? No I don't.
it is funny that the largest handouts are not only to the biggest individuals, they're to the biggest companies. Know it sounds crazy but think it has something to do with he who controls the money and the rules (and those who make the rules).
It's "Legacy Time" , Bitchez ! He may have to resort to free market medicine to fix the mess ! Boehner .... grow a pair and don't tear up .... make him acknowledge .... if he seeks your help .... that he is using time honoured free market principles ! Who the fuck am I kidding ? Pure HOPIUM ! HOPIUM .... a whimsical gas lighter than hydrogen !
9/11 was the sine qua non for much of our nation's current Fall of Rome trajectory, and apart from the groupthink and automatic prejudgment of 'conspiracy theories' as false {as if history weren't replete with conspiracies}, the fact 9/11 is labelled a "terrorist" act prevents people from viewing it as a crime.
Viewed as a crime, looking at things like means, motive, opportunity and asking 'who benefits' - one can not seriously come away without suspecting, if not 'knowing for sure' that elements of our government [Cheney, the Office of Special Plans] and of the Israeli government [including Ehud Barak and Bibi - look at video of the pair of them the day of the attack - they can not contain their glee] were involved.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2012/07/demystifying-911-israel-and-the-tactics-of-mistake/investigate-911-sabrosky/
I humbly submit that demanding inquiry into WTC7 and the Israeli/Cheney connection to 9/11 might do more than any other single thing [apart from nationalizing or otherwise reigning in the Fed] to get the country back to something like the Republic it was supposed to be.
The evidence is too copious to ignore.
Even if you're inclined to think that 9/11 probably happened more or less described, surely WTC7 merits another look, as does the voluminous evidence showing a Zionist/Mossad connection to the events of the day.
Abe Foxman apparently ran around to news stations the day after 9/11 demanding they stop covering the Israeli spy ring. The ADL does some fine work but in many regards is little more than a Zionist 5th Column which, along with AIPAC, is doing much to hijack and destroy this country.
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/israel_9-11_index.html
http://www.takeourworldback.com/911whodunit.htm
This stuff matters much more than the markets or even what the Fed does.
You may be right, but thinking we're ever going to get the full story behind 9/11 is like thinking we were ever going to get the full story behind the JFK assassination. The evidence is pretty clear in both cases that the official story "needs work" (the kindest way I can put it), but getting the straight story from officialdom just ain't gonna happen.
LBJ Killed JFK
http://www.viewzone.com/lbj/
Explosive Jackie O tapes 'reveal how she believed Lyndon B Johnson killed JFK and had affair with movie star'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023418/Jackie-O-tapes-reveal-JFKs-affairs-believed-death.html
seen his wink on air force one taking the oath
P.S. this wasn't a close election and it never was, you all bought the MSM bullshit and though Romney had a chance, he got his ass handed to him b a weakened Obama, Romney? What a fucking joke.....
Right on. His own state voted 61% Obama.
TX would vote for a broom stick with R stickers on it.
GOP can never ever win again unless they run with either a female or a hispanic candidate or both.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq9FCBatl3A
Please explain to me why the fuck the nation is so obsessed with the sex or race? When Obama was voted in, all we had was gushing about how great it was that our next president's skin was dark. Read that sentence a few times. We were proud because we elected a man who had dark skin. Who the FUCK cares? Aren't we trying to move PAST that as a nation? Apparently we aren't, or rather, the issue of race and sex is being wielded as a political weapon and propagated by the MSM, and people buy into it.
Seriously, MLK would be weeping right now. Instead of his dream of a country where people weren't judged on the color of their skin, the liberals have beat that drum nonstop to their advantage. You talk about the GOP needing to run a minority or a woman – well, look what happened with Sarah Palin. Forget about everything else you think about her - do you realize that many people actually think _she_ said she could see Russia from her house vs the fact that it was an SNL skit?
I am so sick about the whole race/sex card because clearly it is being used as a political tool by the left and is only serving to keep old wounds in our country open.
I don't know if the nation is obsessed with sex or race. But, when your party runs a candidate who has a reputation as chauvinist and there are neither visible hispanic nor black representatives on his campaign trail, then you have shot yourself in both feet. Romney was (emphasis on WAS) the epidemy of exclusiveness. Obama is inclusive and represents diversification which is what this country is all about. I guess the GOP just cannot figure this out to save their lives and party.
Add to that the drums of exclusiveness galore from "conservative" radio talk shows which are hurting the GOP. They hate immigrants, they hate "liberals" (whatever that is) and they hate any form of alternative energy. NOT ONE allegedly conservative radio talk show has supported Ron Paul and his quest to audit the FED and question the influence of synthetic wealth on the economy and the people.
The GOP is done.
What the fuck is diversification? Is that code for "we need gays, blacks, latinos, etc?". That is garbage. The entire concept of diversification is a political tactic of lumping people into identity groups. We need to move past that. You are saying that because Romney and Ryan are white, and you couldn't see blacks or hispanics that he is exclusive. My question to you is, what does it say about our society if we feel the need to go out of our way to include members from said "groups"; it means we haven't moved past identity politics. It means that its OK to discriminate as long as its against white people. The entire concept of the black caucus, hispanic caucus in congress is wildly racist.
Do you understand? For a nation that has supposedly moved on past the civil rights issues of the past, we are more obsessed with it than ever before and I would go further and say we've turned it into a perverse monster.
Diversification is code for having respect for people that don't necessarily look or think like you...
And having worked in very diverse international collaborations, I'd say it is not a bad idea...
And as for Affirmative Action, don't worry the Roberts court will take care of that relying on the poster boy for Affirmative Action, Clarence Thomas...
The way you describe diversity is the way most liberals see it, which is essentially that skin color is so critical that we have to include those different skin colors, ethnicities, genders, etc over actual merit. That by its very definition is discrimination. Anyone who factors in race, ethnicity, etc is discriminating. Apparently we haven't made any progress since the civil rights movement, we've just turned it into "get whitey".
we've just turned it into "get whitey".
it means we haven't moved past identity politics.
Well, you sure haven't.
If your idea of "moving past identity politics" means "bitching about how bad whitefolk got it," you'd better nut up, because you're probably going to get it progressively worse for the rest of your white life.
Well considering that my colleagues had PhDs, DipEngs or were graduate students I don't think merit was an issue...
I'm afraid respect is not enough for some folks.
print, print, print baby yeah
it's the only game in town, the only game they know
the tracks were prepared decades ago, the train left the station 4 years ago and is now picking up speed
get on board and ride the inflation train or crawl under a rock and stay put for at least 4 years
where the tracks will end is anybody's guess or if derailment is in the cards before we reach our destination
hey, nobody is saying this will be a pleasureable ride. enjoy the scenery, it's still free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-DpRcxK_N8
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=riding%20the%20train
The crooked asslick bankers abandoned Obongo... so maybe there will be payback and (finally) some prosecutions... or maybe just some huge apology payoffs from them to Osambo's offshore accounts... buy gold, guns and afro-sheen.
What the fuck are you talking about you racist asshole?
I also enjoy confronting those who see the race of an individual rather than the individual himself but I try to do it with style and wit. If what you are saying is worthwhile then taking the time to make your point in a rational manner is also worthwhile.
When the Parasites outnumber the Producers it is game over from that point on. GAME OVER.
My labor has supported the ass clowns parasites on Wall Street for decades. They aren't many in numbers but their damage is concentrated like a neutron bomb. Those are the real parasites and they've just about killed the host.
Government in all its forms is the parasite. It produces nothing and takes what it wants from the host population.
Just look at past budgets and how much we have spent on the military industrial complex over decades. That's been the biggest consumer of federal funds since Christ was an infant. Followed by various programs assisting with medical payments. Did you know that Big Pharma was Bush Jr. biggest campaign contributor?
War is the most repulsive aspect of government in my opinion. Nevertheless:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_Modernization_Act
That increase of 24% was mostly Medicare. Collect your dividen checks from Big Pharma if you can.
What are we arguing about?
I'm not arguing, just looking for the truth. You said: Just look at past budgets and how much we have spent on the military industrial complex over decades. That's been the biggest consumer of federal funds since Christ was an infant.
To my knowledge that is not the case and so I posted figures. If military spending is bigger than social spending then let's see some numbers. I am aware that the wars have been run off budget and much of the military's nuclear budget is funneled through DOE. Nevertheless, the numbers available show that social spending is greater than military spending.
Military spending and healthcare spending are the two oldest and largest bubbles. Viewed that way you understand why they will continue to grow. No matter what.
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I agree completely. The scary thing is, I don't know how we get out of this trap. The US has been turned upside down from where I remember the country 20 years ago. I have an Aunt (who lives in OH) who works for a small private company run by 2 guys who are brothers. According to my dad, she is bitter because she feels the brothers are well to do and don't pay or spread enough of that wealth down to people like her. My response to that is, what the fuck is stopping her - or anyone upset about their position - to better themselves and solve that problem? Go start your own damn company - take that risk and see if it pays off. Seriously - look at where you are in life and if you aren't happy, whether its not making enough money or wanting to do something else - we seem to be losing that personal responsibility as a nation to make shit happen by ourselves.
Great idea. Let's all just borrow money from our parents to start our own company!!!
Yesterday was our last chance to avoid descending into permanent Socialism. We failed. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America.
You really need to get a grip. This is a mixed economy, always has been.
Mama's telling me to run.
In Massachusetts the Presidential race was already decided for us but I wrote in Ron Paul in protest. This does not mean I like everything Ron Paul stands for, but was far superior to Romney/Obama. At least in Maine, Ron Paul was actually on the write-in ballot and an Independent is going to CONgress, abet far too late in this illusion for the masses.
Fuck that sellout...
Is there a Member of CONgress that isn't? Lesser of evils imo, and there's not a damn thing you or I can do about it.
Nice...
You must be a wordsmith with that extensive and sophisticated vocabulary.
Your team won in the sheeple showdown. Calm down.
Bet on the winner. Obama 4 more years. Buy gold.
Now What? Easy; the rapid decline of Amerika that will take place faster and uglier than anyone currently realizes. By the next preeezy election, debt ratings at or near junk, unemployment at record levels, and an over-reaching expansive government that will further erode personal freedom. Way to go Amerikan dipshits. I wonder what the guys who died at Normandy would think if they could see what their sacrifice means 67 years later? Amerika; what a fucking joke.
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"I wonder what the guys who died at Normandy would think if they could see what their sacrifice means 67 years later?"
They'd probably be thinking, "What the fuck? They knew about Pearl Harbor well before it was bombed?"
The only way to *not* antagonize the Ron Paul faction is to make their guy the candidate!
You obviously haven't looked into the shenanigans that went on during the primaries and the state conventions.
Welcome to the Euro Nanny state. An increasingly government dependent population with ensure all future elections avoid austerity, cuts, belt-tightening or any other synonym for fiscal responsibility. Worrying about the Fiscal Debt even though at some point it trickles down in inflation, is about #21 on the list of this voting populations concerns...spend and keep spending is the only way forward now.
Obama is the smiley face, benign parasitical tumor that feeds off the agressive, pathological Socialist cancer ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Pollyannaism World Tour
be a true american salute your true new-old commander in chief. He is unique, a true immigrant, the first of a new breed, like all americans who move to promised land should be. And smile when you salute.
hey Ron
I liked your spiel better in it's original German!
RON PAUL!...Hey!...Where are you?!...
:P
Plenty of the 47% are among the percentage of voters for Romney especially white males who are high school educated and at the lower-end of the income percentile. This is just an incredibly lazy explanation for the results of this election that has huge glaring problems.
As for the Ariticles for Confederation, they were pretty much a complete and abject failure including from an economic perspective as most of the states attempted to devalue their currencies to escape the huge debt burdens from the American Revolution that they their most of their state legislature had issued and severly hampered trade among the states due to the byzantine systems of tariffs, regulations, and state restrictions in place.
This was just a lazy analysis on what happened in the election that was very superficial and advocates a solution (Articles of Confederation) which really didn't work on several levels including economically.
Socialism is theft .... 'til death !
It is a case to prefer the original.
'Americanism' is stealth.
Many copy cats running around but none can ever dream to beat 'americans' when it comes to stealing.
'Americans' have risen from the ranks as the best extorter of the weak, farmer of the poor in recorded history.
And due to depletion of resources, they will probably remain as such.
'Americanism' is about shooting for the stars. Stop looking at poor achievers when such success as 'americans' exist.
It is a case to prefer the original algebraic coconuts.
Chinese Citizenism is filth --- roadside filth, to be precise.
Many cats running around but none can ever dream to beat hungry Chinese Citizenism citizens when it comes to fleeing the wok.
Chinese Citizenism citizens have risen from the rank roadsides as the best exporter of the weak quality products, farmer of the poor melamine-contaminated dogfood in recorded history.
And due to depletion of resources, and surplus of hypocritizenism, they will probably remain as such.
Chinse Citizenism is all about shooting the protesters and Tibetan monks and nuns. Stop looking at poor achievers when such cat-hungry, Tibet-raping, authoritarian success as imperialistic Chinese Citizenism citizens exist.
Ah, ah, examine the Chinese citizenism usingness of wordity much the awkward.
Chinese citizenism citizen AnAnonymous speakings vocabulations of non-existence entitywise. Observe example thusly his speakings with the word "stealth" as if looking with disdain on US citizens downwardly. AnAnonymalysis revealings usage thusly of him as past tensity of verb the word "steal".
Arrogance of Chinese citizenism interloper cannot self indiction and thus notwardly knowing truly adjectivity of "stealth" when worded, refuse to consider his erroneous usage perish the thought.
The arrogant eternal nature of AnAnonymous Chinese citizenism is beyond self indiction.
We're doomed. A political solution is no longer attainable in the time remaining.
The states are now merely part of one huge consolidated central banking-enabled "United State" government and their sock puppet politicians part of the oligarchy machine; they will not protect their citizens by seceeding.
Time to brush up on our Spanish language skills and vote with our feet.
I sum up this post. . ..
Blah blah takers
Blah blah liberterians turned off
Blah blah Ron Paul
Blah blah Articles of Conderation
I do support a much weaker Executive branch and have been pretty horrfied to see what has happened under GW Bush/Obama as the Executive Branch power has mushroomed again. Only time it was put in check just a bit since WW2 was after Nixon ran amok and some weak and watered down restrictions was slapped down on the Executive Branch.
Summations traditionally occur immediately preceding an exit. Bye!
You promised us that you were heading to the Gulch....
Did you pop in and realize what that really entailed?
I promised no such thing. It's another one of your hallucinations.
Look, people are going to vote for who gives them what they want, namely money for nothing. And thats higher than 47%.
It does look like we are beyond the point of changing the system from within. We will either watch passively as crony-capitalism self-destructs or at some point there will be a more aggressive revolution. Don't ever underestimate the short-sightedness, laziness and stupidity of human beings.
It's largely demographics. And a declining culture. 40%+ illegitimacy rates will destroy any society.
Amerika was and is f*cked regardless of who won the White House.
The only hope is an economic decline/jolt that results in an understanding that one must produce to have. A lot of people understand this but aren't forced to accept it. That may change soon. The EU will collapse as a union and the U.S. economy is going to crater. Maybe people will embrace real change next time.
and them mexicans thought they got away...lol
Isn't it sad that out of thousands of years of history, we are still doomed to repeat it? Because you know - why should we care what happened to those before us right? Fuck history - WE HAVE IPHONES. What could we possibly learn from people that rode steam trains, etc? Neanderthals - all of them. We know better. We have Twitter! And Facebook! We won't make those mistakes!
4 more years of the same. Entitlements increase, growth stays weak, debt piles up.
If we do what Japan does, we will end up a lot like Japan. And Japan reminds me of a termite-riddled house that just quietly sits as the termites slowly eat away at the walls and supports. One day the whole rotten edifice will collapse, but by then no one will really care.
Like I said, I joined a Swiss dating site last night.
Let us know how that goes.
If I were a Swiss on that site, I would regard you as an opportunistic infection.
Hope it's a speed dating site (for your sake), in addition to the immigration curbs imposed in May, now even the tree huggers and rednecks are joining hands and singing kumbayah over their next anti-immigration referendum-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20184443
u didn't say, was it omega or rolex u dated?
We rewarded the Greatest Generation with a "Tax Genocide" homecoming from WWII .... it doesn't get more depraved and suicidal .... well maybe the Civil War ?
Kissing Tea Party wing-nuts ass beat RR. As soon as he went more centrist with his rhetoric, the race tightened. If Repubs think going FURTHER right will get the job done next time............well, GLWT.
In other words, Republicans need to be even more like Democrats. Yeah, that'll fix everything.
Hmmmm, just like a lot folks here you look like another one who thinks the politcal CENTER = flaming liberalism. Good luck getting anything fixed with that mind-set.