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Newtown, CT Elementary School Shooting Tally Rises To 27 Dead, Of Whom 20 Children - Live Video

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Update 4: the NYT has released a brief biopic on Lanza's, who it turns out had Asperger's Syndrome:

He carried a black briefcase to his 10th-grade honors English class, and sat near the door so he could readily slip in and out. When called upon, he was intelligent, but nervous and fidgety, spitting his words out, as if having to speak up were painful.

 

Pale, tall and scrawny, Adam Lanza walked through high school in Newtown, Conn., with his hands glued to his sides, the pens in the pocket of his short-sleeve, button-down shirts among the few things that his classmates recalled about him.

 

He did all he could to avoid attention, it seemed.

 

Until Friday.

 

The authorities said Mr. Lanza, 20, wearing combat gear, carried out one of the deadliest mass shootings in the nation’s history. He killed 20 children and six adults at the elementary school where his mother worked, they said. He then apparently turned his gun on himself. The police said he also earlier killed his mother.

 

In his brief adulthood, Mr. Lanza had left few footprints, electronic or otherwise. He apparently had no Facebook page, unlike his older brother, Ryan, a Hoboken, N.J., resident who for several hours on Friday was misidentified in news reports as the perpetrator of the massacre.

 

Adam Lanza did not even appear in his high school yearbook, that of the class of 2010. His spot on the page said, “Camera shy.” Others who graduated that year said they did not believe he had finished school.

 

Matt Baier, now a junior at the University of Connecticut, and other high school classmates recalled how deeply uncomfortable Mr. Lanza was in social situations.

 

Several said in separate interviews that it was their understanding that he had a developmental disorder. They said they had been told that the disorder was Asperger syndrome, which is considered to be a high functioning form of autism.

 

“It’s not like people picked on him for it,” Mr. Baier said. “From what I saw, people just let him be and that was that.”

 

One former classmate who said he was familiar with the disorder described Mr. Lanza as having “very flat affect,” adding, “If you looked at him, you couldn’t see any emotions going through his head.”

 

Others said Mr. Lanza’s evident discomfort prompted giggles from those who did not understand him.

 

Law enforcement officials said Friday that they were closely examining whether Mr. Lanza had such a disorder.

More here. Indeed, there is a statistical predisposition, at least anecdotally, for those with Asperger's toward both murder and violence.  In other words, watch as the debate rages over the traditional bogeyman of gun control, in a country with over three hundred million weapons, when we may well simply be talking about a mentally ill young adult.

As for the misidentified Ryan, who for a few brief hours was presented by law enforcement as the suspected shoorter, we learn from the WSJ:

Israel raids Palestinian NGO officesKatie Colaneri, a 24-year-old resident of Hoboken, N.J., described herself as a friend of Ryan, the suspect’s brother who for hours Friday was incorrectly identified as the alleged gunman. “He [is] a little shy, but very nice and sweet,” said Ms. Colaneri, who has known Ryan for over a year.

 

She said Ryan is a gentle guy who was  devoted to his job at the Ernst & Young accounting firm. A representative for Ernst & Young would not comment on his employment status.

 

A law-enforcement official briefed on the investigation told the Associated Press that Ryan has been “extremely co-operative” and is not under arrest, although he was still being question late Friday.

 

The official said Ryan’s computers and phone records were being searched but only “in an abundance of caution.” Ryan told authorities he had not been in touch with his brother Adam in recent years, and the official said he isn’t believed to have any connection to the school killings.

 

In Hoboken, Ryan lives in a newer building that was hard-hit by superstorm Sandy, Ms. Colaneri said. He lost power for a number of days following the storm.

 

The last time she saw him, about a month ago, Ms. Colaneri recalled that Ryan ran up to her and gave her a hug.  ”I’m really shocked,” she said. “As the details unfolded, I was totally devastated.”

Update 3: ABC has released a picture of the real shooter, Adam Lanza, taken in 2005 when he was ~13 years old.

Update 2 : NY Post now refuting CNN's initial report, and stating that the shooter's real name is Adam Lanza, not Ryan Lanza, who is instead brother of the latter. At this point there appears to be a ridiculous amount of confusion who did what, so it perhaps would be prudent on behalf of the authorities to double check this information before releasing it to the media. And just out from AP:

The AP confirms this further here:

The suspect in the Connecticut school shootings is Adam Lanza, 20, the son of a teacher at the school where the shootings occurred, a law enforcement official said Friday. A second law enforcement official says the boy's mother, Nancy Lanza, is presumed dead.

 

Adam Lanza's older brother, Ryan, 24, of Hoboken, N.J., is being questioned by police, said the first official. Earlier, a law enforcement official mistakenly transposed the brothers' first names.

 

Both officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record about the developing criminal investigation.

 

The first official said Adam Lanza is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

 

According to the second official, the suspect drove to the scene of the shootings in his mother's car. Three guns were found at the scene — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols — and a .223-caliber rifle. The rifle was recovered from the back of a car at the school. The two pistols were recovered from inside the school.

 

The official also said Lanza's girlfriend and another friend are missing in New Jersey.

 

Meanwhile, former Jersey Journal staff writer Brett Wilshe said he has spoken with Ryan Lanza of Hoboken, who told Wilshe the shooter may have had Ryan Lanza's identification.

 

Ryan Lanza has a Facebook page that posted updates Friday afternoon that read that "it wasn't me" and "I was at work."

Update: According to CNN the shooter's name is Ryan Lanza, out of New Jersey. Based on a White Pages reverse lookup there is an 18-24 year old Ryan Lanza living in Hoboken, NJ whose FaceBook profile lists Newtown, CT as his home city. Whether it is the same person remains to be confirmed officially.

 

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Sadly, increasingly it appears that not a day, and certainly not a week can pass, in the US without news of some mass killing somewhere. Several days ago its was a mall in Oregon, and today it is a shooting rampage at the Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. Here is what is known: the shooter, who CBS reports is a 20 year old from New Jersey, is reported to be dead. A second shooting suspect, a 24 year old man with a bulletproof vest and 4 guns has been apprehended in custody (this has subsequently been not confirmed). According to CBS 27 people are dead, of whom 18, Connecticut Post 27 people are dead, of whom 20 tragically, children. Among the dead are the principal and the school psychologist. The AP has already dubbed it "the worst school tragedy in American history."

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Live streaming updates on everything Newtown related can be found on the Reuters website here.

More from Reuters:

 At least 27 people, including 18 children, were killed on Friday when at least one shooter opened fire at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, CBS News reported, citing unnamed officials.

 

If confirmed, it would be one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history. The holiday season tragedy follows a series of shooting rampages in the United States this year that have killed multiple victims, and it was certain to revive a debate about U.S. gun laws.

 

The principal and school psychologist were among the dead, CNN said. Witnesses reported hearing dozens of shots with some saying as many as 100 were fired.

 

The suspected shooter, 24, was armed with four weapons and wearing a bullet-proof vest, WABC reported.

 

There were unconfirmed reports of a second shooter.

 

Another person was being held in police custody after he was detained in the woods near the school wearing camouflage pants, CBS reported.

 

Sandy Hook Elementary School teaches children from kindergarten through fourth grade - roughly ages 5 to 10.

 

"It was horrendous," said parent Brenda Lebinski, who rushed to the school where her daughter is in the third grade. "Everyone was in hysterics - parents, students. There were kids coming out of the school bloodied. I don't know if they were shot, but they were bloodied."

 

Television images showed police and ambulances at the scene, and parents rushing toward the school. Parents were seen reuniting with their children and taking them home.

 

"This is going to be bad," a state official told Reuters, requesting anonymity because the scope of the tragedy remained uncertain.

 

President Barack Obama was notified and would receive regular updates throughout the day, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

 

"We're still waiting for more information about the incident in Connecticut," Carney said when asked about the president's reaction to it.

 

Carney called the event "tragic" and said there would be time later for a discussion of policy implications.

 

Obama remains committed to trying to renew a ban on assault weapons, Carney said.

 

All Newtown schools were placed in lockdown after the shooting, the Newtown Public School District said.

 

Lebinski said a mother who was at the school during the shooting told her a "masked man" entered the principal's office and may have shot the principal. Lebinski, who is friends with the mother who was at the school, said the principal was "severely injured."

 

Lebinski's daughter's teacher "immediately locked the door to the classroom and put all the kids in the corner of the room."

 

Danbury Hospital, about 11 miles (18 km) west of the school, had received three patients from the scene, a hospital spokeswoman told NBC Connecticut. The mayor of Danbury, Mark Boughton, told MSNBC: "They are very serious injuries."

An early report from CBS:

A shooting at a Connecticut elementary school Friday left several children and the gunman dead, law enforcement sources tell CBS News. At least one teacher was wounded in the shooting that sent frightened pupils into the parking lot.

 

It is unclear if there was more than one gunman at the school.

 

Law enforcement sources told CBS News senior correspondent John Miller that preliminary and unconfirmed information indicates that the shooter was the father of a student.

 

The shooter was killed and apparently had two guns, a person with knowledge of the shooting told The Associated Press. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still under way.

 

It wasn't clear how many people were injured at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. CBS Hartford affiliate WFSB-TV reports around 600 students attend the school.

 

Connecticut State Police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance described the situation to CBS New York station WCBS-AM as a "very serious school shooting."

 

A dispatcher at the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance Corps said a teacher had been shot in the foot and taken to Danbury Hospital.

 

Stephen Delgiadice said his 8-year-old daughter heard two big bangs and teachers told her to get in a corner. His daughter was fine.

 

"It's alarming, especially in Newtown, Connecticut, which we always thought was the safest place in America," he said.

 

Lisa Bailey, a Newtown resident with three children in Newtown schools, told CBSNewYork.com, "Newtown is a quiet town. I'd never expect this to happen here. It's so scary. Your kids are not safe anywhere."

 

The superintendent's office said the district had locked down schools in Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City. Schools in neighboring towns also were locked down as a precaution.

 

State police said Newtown police called them around 9:40 a.m.

 

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Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:29 | 3064522 Walt D.
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...Democrats?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:27 | 3063408 PaperBear
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Was this another gun free zone except for the lunatic with a gun ?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:27 | 3063411 Godisanhftbot
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 Dear Imbeciles,

 

 It not about gun control, its about PEOPLE CONTROL.

 

 Write that down.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:31 | 3063443 Confundido
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Well, sir, if it's the people and peoples control...what would you rather have? Those very same people with or without guns? I, for one, would have them without guns, because above all, they have proved that even with the guns, they still allow tyranny to govern them. Therefore, if the tyranny is here to stay regardless of whether they are or not armed, I choose to have them unarmed.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:44 | 3063512 Godisanhftbot
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  You are looking in the wrong place for a solution pal. A nut will find a way, unless he's straight jacketed.

  What size are you, by the way?

 

 jk

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:36 | 3064217 cognus
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this is immeasurably dumb.  all the law-abiding people in that school were disarmed - respecters of gun-control every one. the police were called immediately and got there as soon as bureaucracy allows - record time, by statist standards.

Let me say that again: the good citizens, the law-respecting populace in that school were disarmed.  they voluntarily cooperated with the spirit of the laws. the police were called, which is what those advocating gun bans always say "is sufficient".  So every single thing that a leftist statist would advocate was in place here, and worked the way it does work.

Mexico has rigid gun control. Its working well there - anyone and everyone who by lawful means might put an end to the mayhem is subject to gun bans.  Mexico has rigid gun control and I for one would love to see every USA advocate of gun bans move there to prove their point of optimal safety.

It is very difficult -exceptionally difficult - for law-abiding persons in Guatemala to get a gun. Its working the way it is supposed to: the law-abiding people are disarmed.  Guatemala has the highest  per-capita homicide rate on earth bar none - even higher than leftist-controlled Chicagoland if you can believe that...

Gun bans work the purpose for which they are schemed.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:27 | 3063412 AchtungAffen
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And of course, again it is not the time to talk about gun control...

 

Except when it's concealed carry permits for children ages 4+...

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:28 | 3063415 Volaille de Bresse
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Trav-ssole is going to tell us the shooter was either a Black or an Hispanic, right? 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:39 | 3063419 algol_dog
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I remember a few years back when I use to service printer equipment, I made a comment to my manager, a former Kane County (CA) Sheriff about how easy it was to walk into a school virtually unchecked, and yet I couldn't get near a corporate building entrance, let alone inside, without a billion background checks, ID's, references, etc. ... What's to stop a terrorist group from doing a simultaneous attack on a bunch of the nations schools?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:44 | 3063513 Legolas
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If you don't count the government as terrorists, you have to find a terrorist group operating in the country!

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:45 | 3063521 RallyRoundTheFamily
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Nothing , therefore it must be our brilliant police forces stopping them all.

/sarc

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:13 | 3063663 Bawneee Fwank
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The cops are to busy sitting in some median trying to catch speeders and people not wearing seat belts. 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:58 | 3063588 Oldballplayer
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My kids always thought I was crazy whenever we walked into a public place and I drilled them about how they would get out fast. Public schools are shooting galleries. So are shopping malls. I stay far away from places where a become nothing more than a gazelle running from a lion. I don't run so fast these days.

God bless the kids and all of the families.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:28 | 3064159 XitSam
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Happened in a different country Beslan school hostage crisis

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:29 | 3063420 Marley
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Another sad day.  Hug and kiss your kids tonight like it could be the last.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:30 | 3063431 zendome
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Jesus Fucking Chirst!

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:29 | 3063432 docj
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Reports (John Miller: CBS) are now there was a second shooter, who is (if reports are to be believed) in custody.

Contemplate that for a second - not just one nut-job with lots of guns. But 2 nut-jobs, who met, talked this out, and concluded that shooting-up a freaking kindertarten is a good idea.

We live in a sick world with some seriously f-ed up people.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:47 | 3063867 AnAnonymous
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We live in a sick world with some seriously f-ed up people.
__________________

Welcome to an 'american' world. Brought to you courtesy of 'american' people, all this from the mecca of 'americanism' on Earth, the US.

'Americanism', great legacy to humanity, all dedicated to humanity advancement.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:54 | 3063892 akak
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Welcome to a Chinese hypocritizen's world. Brought to you courtesy of bigoted hypocritizen AnAnnoyingUs, all this from the mecca of roadside crappery and can-kickingism on Earth, the glorious Middle Kingdom, the so-called "People's Republic".  Make me laugh!

Public defecationalism and king class world resource consumptionalization, eternal nature of unsustainable blobbing-up, great legacy to humanity, all dedicated to humanity advancement.  Alas, alas, three times alas.  Just have to bear with it.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:07 | 3063995 karzai_luver
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You do realize that given the ratio....o ever mind!

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:41 | 3064257 cognus
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I'm trying to remember.... wasn't it someone famous who said "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." .... Ah! got it!  it came from the idol of the American Left - in fact the very ones now in charge....  it was from their deity, chairman Mao.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:30 | 3063438 chump666
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so tragic.  thoughts with the families.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:30 | 3063440 Rustysilver
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20 year old shooter. Had a rifle and 3 other weapons. Some coonection to NJ. NJ police is search for someone.

Shooter had some connection to school.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:59 | 3064365 Cathartes Aura
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yes, apparently he killed his mother, a teacher there - among others. . .

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:38 | 3063447 thetruthseeker
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Thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families.  That being said, this definitely raises my antennae given that the system is intent on going after individual gun rights.  Cui bono, translation, who benefits.  The anti-gun lobby is the big winner in this event.  They made no traction after the Aurora shooting.  They still couldn't get any traction after the Sikh temple shooting.  I am not saying outright that this was a false flag; however, it definitely should be investigated thoroughly.  Early reports of a second shooter, now these reports have been redacted.  Look at the event which transpired before the banning of guns in the UK.  The Dunblane school massacre.  Nothing can get people to change their minds on an issue or behind a government position like the deaths of small children.  To think that there are people who would commit such atrocities against young children just to advance their agenda, now that is truly sickening.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:32 | 3063448 zendome
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Chris Rock had a great idea about all this.  Have all the guns you like, but have bullets cost $5,000 a piece. 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:33 | 3063456 dolph9
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Yeah, it's pretty sad isn't it.

We shouldn't jump to conclusions, but remember that most of these shooters are males who perceive that their society is rotting, and then go off the deep end.  Some of whom have a brew of both "legal" and "illegal" psychotropic substances altering their brain chemistry.

The end result?  More surveillance, more control, and more decay.

This has been going on for awhile.  There's nothing we can do.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:35 | 3063471 It is a bargin ...
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As a Brit I really do wonder what the hell is this in US mentality about guns and schools.I just dont get it on any level, shoot up a mosque ,synagouge, church even, I get a bit, but why this?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:46 | 3063516 dolph9
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Who knows.  Maybe his kid was being bullied and he decided to go on a rampage.

There was probably little planning involved, because, well, we don't plan anymore.  So because he didn't have to think of a plan, the idea that something could go wrong, or perhaps that it was immoral and insane to begin with, never entered his head.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:45 | 3063520 Neoisolationist
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incidence of shootings go up whenever gun control legislation is proposed. hate to say this, but after the 9/11/2001 event I owuldn't put it past our own government to perform false flags like this in order to further their agenda. Shame but there it is. Hope I'm wrong.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:36 | 3063477 razorthin
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One horrific symptom of a repressed world, IMO.  The answer is not more repression.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:54 | 3063575 Dr. Engali
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That's not the answer, but that is what's coming.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:41 | 3063496 Conax
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God Almighty, they are shooting the babies now.

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth, these filthy monsters behind all this will roast and scream forever and ever.

/rant

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 19:43 | 3065009 Husk-Erzulie
Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:45 | 3063506 mogul rider
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What a shame...

My prayers to the families affected by theis tragedy.

 

Just so you know

This is what $4500 dollar fucking gold looks like...

Still proud to be a gold bug?

Be careful what you wish for..

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:49 | 3063536 dolph9
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Actually, this is what the manipulation and destruction of a fiat currency looks like.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:25 | 3063729 Central Bankster
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You are part of the problem. You implicitly support the death of the currency (the cause of high prices on gold.... Or oil or food). Gold bugs are explicitly opposed to currency destruction and hence own gold. I am am not bullish on gold so much as I am bearish on currency and it's backers, illogical thinkers such as yourself. 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:03 | 3063973 akak
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Mongoloid Drivler, I think your post is the perfect definition of "non sequitur".

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:45 | 3063515 ZFiNX
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Societal apoptosis. The decay of our society grows more apparent by the month.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:45 | 3063517 Quantitative_Ap...
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As disgusting and sad as this is, this is NOT the worst school tragedy in US history.

 

From the local CBS affiliate -

 

"The worst mass school murder in American history took place on May 18,1927 in Bath Township, Mich., when a former school board member set off three bombs that killed 45 people."

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multip...

The part that IS worse IMO is the fact that with modern media, stories like this go around the world and are sensationalized. This highlights the idea to other disturbed individuals who are then prone to "copy cat" acts.

 

Top that off with the whole "end of the world" on 12/21/2012 and the next week could be a very bad one.......

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:46 | 3063523 JR
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The “take the guns” crowd has the media to help them. Example: with the wall-to-wall, day-after-day coverage of the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater shooting, almost no mention was ever made of how the shooter might have selected the Century 16 Multiplex theater for his massacre.

Of the seven theaters that he could have selected in his area, he did not select the biggest that would have had the most potential victims; he did not select the closest to his residence; he selected the only theater of the seven that had a sign posted indicating it banned concealed-carry movie goers.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:18 | 3063686 AnAnonymous
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Amen to that.

How many lifes could have been saved if those kids were packing?

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:58 | 3063937 forexskin
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its all clear now.

you're a sarchastic troll looking to turn your expressed aversion to gun control into an absurdity with reductio ad absurdum rhetoric.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:05 | 3063984 akak
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Amen to that.

How many lives could have been saved if the repressive, imperialistic Chinese Communist regime had not decided to invade and forcibly annex Tibet, nor forcibly abort millions of infants every year?

Signed: a Tibetan (and a child never born)

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:10 | 3064017 karzai_luver
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.........and if the us had the balls to back up it's rhetoric and we stopped them......

 

never mind, you have biz to coduct, turning the world into a sweatshop full of serfs for a couple of i gadgets for the 20 somethings to tweet out their exceptional lives.

 

sick shit dude, the chickens always come home.

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:30 | 3064170 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Alas, alas, alas, alas, alas, triple double alas, AnAnonymous himself barely escaped being the victim of Chinese citizenism female infanticide. He owes his existence to an observant midwife with a magnifying glass.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:38 | 3064226 forexskin
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bonus points for a real laugh at the troll's expense.

nicely done sir.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 23:15 | 3065584 WillyGroper
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That was great!

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:49 | 3063535 Essential Nexus
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Does anyone else get annoyed that whenever there is a mass shooting in the USA people get up and scream about it, but when it happens in other countries people are too apathetic to care.  It seems like the motto is "THIS COULD HAPPEN TO ME! NEVER AGAIN!!!" as opposed to actually caring that people die.

 

People don't care when people die; they care when people that look like them die.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:56 | 3063580 viedoklis_lv
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That is why I always declare - injustice has no flag, country or borders - be compassionate for everyone all around the world - either they are Palestine children that are born in open space type prision under Israel occupation, ot they are under Saudi Arabia & Qatar financed & US backed islamic extreemists/terorists that attack Syrian schools & homes, or they are Libya families under NATO bombardment or now under armed gang control, etc.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:56 | 3063545 Future Jim
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This event seems unatural. nobody does this kind of thing on his own.

I have heard many claims by Alex Jones and others in the last few months that a massive school shooting was imminent in order to  justify a gun ban. Consider the suspicious facts around the Batman shooting and other such events, and consider the unusual  recent statements by prominent conservatives Rupert Murdoch, Bill Kristol, and Bill O'Reilly that guns should be banned, and consider the purpose of Fast and Furious, and consider that the party that wants to empower the little guy is the party that wants to disarm the little guy, and consider that we already knew that Obama Wants Your Guns.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:43 | 3063690 Rearranging Dec...
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I don't disagree that the elite want to disarm the general masses and will use this tragedy as the opportune catastrophe to bring in their "solution." However, I take issue with the statement that "nobody does this on their own." Its totally plausible that someone did this on their own.

btw you sound like Obama - you didn't massace them.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:24 | 3063725 JR
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And never once does Congress seek to rein in Hollywood; instead it gives the producers of violence tax breaks.

Why? The money is in the murder, in the violence. That’s “entertainment,” according to our lobbyist-bought Congress.

W. Patrick Cunningham, discussing the current state of TV and Hollywood drama wrote, regarding the “senseless tragedy” in an Aurora, Colorado movie theater that was showing the latest dark Batman movie, the following:

“Predictably, in the days following the mass murder, the movie’s producers and actors appeared on TV and in print, wringing their hands and moaning about how awful it all was. Commentator Charles Hurt responded to their shared feelings: ‘You are devastated that such an “innocent and hopeful place” –here you are talking about the movie theaters that play your twisted movies – would be violated in such an “unbearably savage” way, I mean, really, who could think up such monstrous hatred and nihilistic violence? Umm, have you watched any of your own movies lately?...  As for you, Sean Penn… One of the last scenes that 6-year-old saw in her precious life was a trailer for your movie in which you have some classy "actors" with machine guns unload from behind a movie screen into a crowd seated in a theater, watching a film. Ring a bell, Sean? Sound familiar?’”

Said Cunningham: “There was, in fact, little difference between the carnage in the Aurora, Colorado theater and the images on our movie and TV and i-pad screens any day of the week…. For we [our legislators] have allowed the networks, cable companies and movie producers to exchange real drama for slaughterhouses with sex… And we [the people], as a culture, are paying them billions of dollars [and with our lives] to do it.”

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:36 | 3064558 cougar_w
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Total fail.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:51 | 3063549 viedoklis_lv
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The purpose of back stage goverment black project created "sleepers" are like these - to provoke violance that escalate fear & anger and asking for "protection" like disarm everyone - this is a main target for elite that controls politition dolls. Are they succesful? Well just read some comments here.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:54 | 3063576 FJ
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Facing a dying nation
Of moving paper fantasy
Listening for the new told lies...

 

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:56 | 3063585 dapper_dan
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Dear Chuck:  I don't fucking care what the god-damn president thinks and is doing at this time.  Is he going to personally bring back those 18 children?  Is he Jesus?  Is he going to personally apprehend the shooter?

Why is every current event always somehow about Obomer?  

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:00 | 3063595 Future Jim
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"Why is every current event always somehow about Obomer? "

because Obama is the front man for those who want to control you, milk you, mislead you, indoctrinate you, etc.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:03 | 3063611 youngman
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I thought it was very wierd that the Governors spokesperson had to mention that Obama made a statement.....still in political mode...disgusting...

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:59 | 3063590 michiganmaven
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What kind of coward shoots kids? How about you shoot at someone who can fight back? Go ahead and fire at a SWAT team member.. see what happens... thoughts and prayers with all the families of this senseless crime... what a coward this person was... even Satan is embarassed by his actions right now.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:09 | 3063647 AnAnonymous
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What kind of coward shoots kids?
______________________

Tough men show toughness in tough times. Ask a Marine. When you face barbaric events, you have to react accordingly. These kids work with the enemy, just as any other kids who happened to be killed by Americans.

War is a sad state of affairs.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:52 | 3063893 Jugdish
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Dude are you some kind of paid government agitator?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:19 | 3064076 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous "works" for the Chinese Citizenism Communautist Party's Ministry of Truth.

Given the quality of his "work", he has to supplement his income by washing dishes and laundry.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:11 | 3063655 djsmps
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"What kind of coward shoots kids?" Our troops do, and is just as horrific as this.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:30 | 3063768 Laddie
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"Children have been shot in other conflicts I have covered, but never before have I watched as soldiers enticed children like mice into a trap and murdered them for sport."
Christopher Hedges, Pulitzer Prize Winning American Journalist, on assignment in Gaza

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:12 | 3064441 Cathartes Aura
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amrka needs to have this discussion, needs to make the connections.

other people's children. . .

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:01 | 3063608 uncle_vito
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Obama economy is doing it.   Perhaps if the media did not try to make like everything is OK, then everyone could concentrate on the folks suffering the most in this economy.  Instead the media says everything is fine, and if it is not for you, tough luck, freak.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:14 | 3063669 AnAnonymous
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Obama economy is doing it.
_____________________

Amen to that. The Kenyan is the one pulling strings behind the scenes. My american sixth sense for BS is ringing. I can call for inside job with CIA mind controlling the killer.
And the liberal media will paint it as a tragedy brought by the exercize of inalienable human rights.

Can you even think how many lifes would have been saved if the kids were packing?

Guns manufacturers produce some excellent models that can be used by kids.

But no, the Kenyan in Washington suppresses the rights of our kids to pack.

You reap what you sow.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:35 | 3063803 Conax
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"But no, the Kenyan in Washington suppresses the rights of our kids to pack."

Will you cut it out?

Maybe if the teacher was packing, yes. Nobody other than a moron would arm little kids for school, so cut it out, please.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:52 | 3063897 AnAnonymous
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That is what has gone with America. We had a great country, the greatest in the world, the world no one ever knows but that's people like you who destroyed it.

I wonder if you commies will ever get it: you can suppress human rights but it does not mean they do not exist.

Children are human beings and they have an inalienable right to bear arms.

Read the Constitution.

Oh, wait, your type think it is only a piece of paper.

If you commies can not get it, you are going to force us, We The People, to take radical action.

Dont act as you did not call for it, commies, because it is coming. Heavy and sour.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:58 | 3063942 Conax
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Me? A commie? You worthless piece of shit, I am a decorated veteran, and if you were to say this to my face it would be the last words out of your cocksucker for about six weeks.

Kiss my ass, punk.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:03 | 3063972 forexskin
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don't feed the troll my friend - on the other hand it would be cool to reach out and touch this one...

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:08 | 3064003 Conax
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I apologize for that outburst, I'm sorry.

I hate internet tough guys, now I act like one.

Think before you type, says I.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 20:14 | 3065099 centerline
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No problem Conax.  The tough guy thing here - if done for the right reasons - is to advance all of us (collectively) with a little tough-in-cheek along the way.  Thick skin and a sense of humor required.  Otherwise, people just miss the damn point - especially with the really clever posters.

This guy is a one trick pony which really shows thier is nothing there but hatred.  He is the epitome of his own statements.  Just a reflexion in his own mirror.  Nothing more.

Plus, AKAK will be around at some point to poke him in the eye.

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:18 | 3064075 akak
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don't feed the troll my friend - on the other hand it would be cool to reach out and touch this one...

Better have lots of toilet paper at hand in that case!

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 20:10 | 3065083 centerline
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Fuck off AA.

 

I already knew you were worthless.  Thanks for confirming it tonight - and in public.  

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:57 | 3063946 forexskin
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its all clear now.

you're a sarchastic troll looking to turn your expressed aversion to gun control into an absurdity with reductio ad absurdum rhetoric.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:03 | 3063616 PlausibleDenial
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Terribly sad state of affairs.  Maybe too many of these gamer kids.  I don't know but the little TV I watch is full of ads for violent games.  There is the story of the 4 or 5 year old boy who after being refused some TV show by his father proceeded to get the dad's gun and shoot the father.  The kid thought the dad could just be rebooted.  WTF, I don't know.

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:08 | 3063639 lakecity55
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I have seen many of these violent video games. The kids play these hours upon hours.

They need to be tossed. The kids need to be riding hteir bikes or playing ball outside.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:54 | 3063915 AnAnonymous
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Commies are out to try to dispossess us of our inalienable rights, I can see that.

If those kids you despize so much were packing, the video games would have been an effective training to feed that unamerican shit some american made lead.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:59 | 3063951 forexskin
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its all clear now.

you're a sarchastic troll looking to turn your expressed aversion to gun control into an absurdity with reductio ad absurdum rhetoric.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:23 | 3064118 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I love it when any kind of horrible tragedy happens in US citizenism 'americanism' America. It gives me a chance to express my deranged 'american' obsession with one hand while I stroke my tiny little pee-pee with my dung hand.

Signed: AnAnonymous

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:29 | 3064160 akak
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In hypocritizenistic Chinese roadside citizenism, the dung hand is the mattering hand --- very crusty, very crusty.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:38 | 3064232 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak said:

In hypocritizenistic Chinese roadside citizenism, the dung hand is the mattering hand --- very crusty, very crusty.

Crusty indeed, except when one has just left something on the roadside.....feh.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:06 | 3064408 lakecity55
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No, going to the gun range or hunting with responsible adults would teach them values and proper behavior.

These kids were too young to have firearms training yet. However, concealed carry by adults at the school might have been helpful.

 

Those games are similar to hypnosis.  I've watched kids and young adults playing them. They get 100% oblivious.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 00:07 | 3065667 WillyGroper
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It's easy to blame it on the video games. I myself did just that. My son played them for hours, almost until his eyes bled. This TED video gave me another perspective. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE1DuBesGYM

My son was indoctrinated by the History & Military channels. The NCLB law has a loophole that the schools have to provide info on them for military recruitment. One loophole was if they had their info published in the school directory. His info was not published.  I had sent certified letters to the school admn & JAMRS to opt him out. It didn't fucking matter, the solicitations arrived in the snail mail daily. He was 3 weeks away from graduating at the very top of his class. He'd been accepted to West Point. It was rescinded. I came home to find him hanging from a tree in 40 mph winds. You will know the horrors of just how deep this rot is when you cut your dead child down from a tree. He wanted to go into politics. His dream was to become president & thought that WP was the fast track. He thought he could make a difference. I'd begged him to choose another course. He'd paged for our state senator 2 weeks prior. Let me share his notes on that experience.

" A nation needs a sense of professionalism. With America's lack thereof, I will be working until I die."

"Bureaucrats playing solataire. 4 veins popping in my head."

"Captain Dumbass waltzing in, and a surprise it is that he actually has control of his basic motor functions."

"Really Senator Johnson??? Facebook in session?? Wowww. Get off Facebook and do your damn job. Shit, it's not that hard."

"Senator Crain just took it to the FACE. Motion for neckbrace."

"Egg cars, courtesy of the fossil fuel lobby."

"Senator Mac's hugs are at best annoying but are more often excrutiating. It's called a handshake for Christ's sake."

"White pants and a black jacket? Yo ass blind?"

"God damnit page coordinator. I have a question over 2132. I guess my ass just will not be able to ask the question. Not that we working class had a voice anyway."

"Baldy is wise, clever avoidance of my question."

"Future lawyer, future asshole."

"I was a page in 1983." I don't care in 2011."

"Strongly against term limits when elected." "Not so much now, gee I wonder why? (1 year before term limit)"

"Senators are suited babies. They suck off the teat of the state. Let me rephrase that, they are ticks that suck the public dry & leave nothing behind except disease and an unsightly wart."

"A tie for senator with this idiot? America really is fucked."

There you have a birds eye view of the state example & the cynicism of an 18 yr old. He was too wise for his age.

 

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:03 | 3063621 gerryscat
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Children a born innocent. Then they are corrupted by a lifetime of lies from the government, religion, corporations, the media and even their own parents (who believe the lies of others). Life could be truly grand for everyone, if only we could stop the liars and stop believing the lies. Instead we have this kind of misery to deal with.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:21 | 3063703 Likstane
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@ gerryscat -Behold I was brought forth in iniquity,and in sin my mother concieved me. PS 51:5

The Bible disagrees with you.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:05 | 3063625 linrom
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Another gun tragedy brings up ALL the gun nuts out. Weapons are NEVER about freedom, they are instruments of violence from time immortal.

In Pakistan everyone owns an AK-47. So come it's lawless territory. The same thing goes for Somalia.

You don't need to be a statistician to correlate high murder rate with high gun ownership.

 

Switzerland is the only exception where gun ownership does not directly lead to high murder rates. Its male citizens are tasked with protecting banking gnomes' empire and living off global money laundering and looting.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:11 | 3063652 Earl of Chiswick
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good point, similar situation with cutlery and the fat folk, there was actully a study conducted on the impact of removing various types of cutlery from a group of  obese individuals. What was interesting in the study is that a marked decrease in weight gain was observed with one exception, those who were allowed to keep their assault spoons.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:43 | 3063841 JR
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“One man with a gun can control 100 without one.” – Vladimir Lenin, you know, the Marxist guy who said: “While the State exists, there can be no freedom; when there is freedom there will be no State."

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:07 | 3063635 AnAnonymous
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That is what you get when you deprive human beings from exerting their inalienable human rights.

Just imagine how many lifes could have been saved if the kids in this school had been allowed to pack.

You reap what you sow.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:04 | 3063975 forexskin
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its all clear now.

you're a sarchastic troll looking to turn your expressed aversion to gun control into an absurdity with reductio ad absurdum rhetoric.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 20:19 | 3065112 centerline
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What are you sowing?  Hmmm....  Here at ZH with the same message over and over.  That's some pretty negative karma going on there.  So sad.  So much anger and frustration.  

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:10 | 3063648 Vlad Tepid
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The only thing worse than watching this unfold is knowing that there will be a worse one before long...

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:13 | 3063662 Earl of Chiswick
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actually what's worse is listening to and watching all of these self righteous media types as they try and figure out how to exploit this to improve their ratings - I mean these fuckers are interviewing some of the kids who escaped

media scum

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:16 | 3063666 SamAdams
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Mr President, please ban keyboards because they are making typos.  Kisses, Mr & Ms Libotard.  XOXOXO 

Have you ever noticed how absolutely satanic, degenerate, violent, drugged, stupid and dependent libotard "MODERN AMERICANS" are?  The cause is obvious to "us", but to the libotards, it is a mystery to be blamed on whatever the jnews tell them is the problem.  

Too bad the shooters were not enligtened to know whom the true enemies are.... 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 21:31 | 3065354 lakecity55
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+1

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:15 | 3063671 1835jackson
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Q: Where was God when this was going on?

A: Well you wanted God out of school so there is your answer. And after all you want your children to believe they are the modern version of a FUCKING ape!

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:19 | 3063692 AnAnonymous
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It really takes an American to outdo an American.

Hats down for that excellent comment.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:08 | 3064006 akak
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It really takes a Chinese hypocritizen to outdo another Chinese hypocritizen.

Pants down for an excellent roadside squatting.

Signed: AnAnnoyingUs

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:57 | 3064356 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I love it when any kind of horrible tragedy happens in US citizenism 'americanism' America. I stroke my tiny pharrus and ejacurate, and before you know it, both inches of my pee-pee are hard again. Of course, any murder of chirdren anywhere is Chinese citizenism porn of much the strongness.

Signed: AnAnonymous

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:57 | 3063933 object_orient
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God is omnipresent, unless the local school board asks him to leave.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:33 | 3064188 1835jackson
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Well they don't want the 10 commandments posted on the school walls but are happy to put up a picture of an ape turning into a man....what a fucking joke.

People are scratching their heads wondering how this could happen. Look at what we are teaching our kids! And when those kids turn into adults they place no value on life.

We create, with federal funding, little monsters then we are horrified when the monsters turn on us.

FOR FUCKING SHAME!

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:15 | 3063672 Likstane
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In other news, 3,000 other children in the U.S were sliced to death today while inside of their mothers.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:20 | 3063695 notadouche
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Don't be a fucking douche with this comment you jack off.  I lost a nephew in this.  

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:23 | 3063718 Likstane
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I'm sorry you lost a nephew, but that doesn't alter the facts.  3,000 mothers and 3,000 fathers lost their children today due to their own murderous actions. 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:59 | 3063955 Josey Montana
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Yes, murders at the hands of one's own mother are far worse than the occasional mass-killings, although not as dramatic since we don't have 24/7 video feeds of the abortuaries and thier aftermath.

Australia and UK lost their basic rights as free men after similar events.  It's been down hill for them both ever since as Aussies and Britons both are being dispossessed by law.  Ironic.

Besides:  my firearms and my tribe had nothing to do with this.  Wanna blame someone? 

BLAME THE NEA.  IT WAS ONE OF THEIRS IN A BIZARRE FANTASY WORLD OF THEIR OWN MAKING.

How are those "gun free school zone" signs working for you now, huh?

KEEP THE BLAMER WHERE IT BELONGS:  ON THOSE THAT MADE THIS INEVITABLE WITH A POLITICALLY MADATED DEFECTIVE MODEL OF HUMANITY.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 20:21 | 3065117 blunderdog
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They didn't "lose" anyone.  They know exactly what happened to them.  Lay off the rhetoric, eh?  It's never been compelling, and that's why you guys haven't been able to enact your agenda.

Try a different tack.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:24 | 3063720 notadouche
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Fuck you for down drafting me whomever you were.  You lose a little boy like this and tell me how you feel you fucking cocksucker.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:25 | 3063736 Likstane
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Didn't down arrow anybody, and you are not the only person to lose a child.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:38 | 3063822 Spastica Rex
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Go away and think about what you're doing. Pray about it.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:25 | 3063732 Body of Lies
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For your loss ... my prayers go out to you.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:29 | 3063765 notadouche
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Thank you.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:17 | 3063682 dobermangang
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"After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military."  - William Burrough

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:20 | 3063683 DavosSherman
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Gunman?  Men don't kill innocent children.

I taught for one year at a private school, it is bullshit that I had to case my gun in the vehicle.  Concealed Carry Weapon permits / our second amendment right should apply to schools, churches and post offices.  I'll bet, like Columbine, a few teachers at this place could have defended the innocent but were, unlike the gunpussy, law abiding leaving their protection and the childrens protection at home of in their car.  Our leaders, have yet again fucked up.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:21 | 3063705 AnAnonymous
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Men? No. Americans do not kill innocents.

Must be an illegal or a moon cricket.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:11 | 3064023 akak
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Tibetans?  Not only.  Chinese hypocritizens kill them AND the innocent unborn.

Sanity (and sanitation) must be illegal in the land of glorious Middle Kingdom public defecationalism.

Signed: AnAnnoyingUs

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:01 | 3064381 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Mmmmm....moon crickets. This adds delicacy to evening meal of stir-fried umbilical cord with flattened cat found on roadside while squatting and excremeditating. Break out the wok!

Signed: AnAnonymous

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:21 | 3063691 Laddie
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Worst in history?

BULLSHIT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Deaths

45 (38 children, 2 teachers, 4 other adults and the bomber)

Wounded

58

 

The bomber was school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe, 55, who was enraged about a property tax levied to fund the construction of the school building. He blamed the additional tax for financial hardships which led to foreclosure proceedings against his farm. These events apparently provoked Kehoe to plan his attack. He died in a car bomb he set off after he drove up to the school as the crowd gathered to rescue survivors from the burning school.

On the morning of May 18, Kehoe murdered his wife by beating her to death, then set his farm buildings afire. As fire fighters arrived at the farm, an explosion devastated the north wing of the school building, killing many schoolchildren. He used a detonator to ignite dynamite and hundreds of pounds of pyrotol which he had secretly planted inside the school over the course of many months. As rescuers started gathering at the school, Kehoe drove up, stopped, and detonated a bomb inside his shrapnel-filled vehicle with his Winchester rifle, killing himself and the school superintendent, and killing and injuring several others. During rescue efforts searchers discovered an additional 500 pounds (230 kg) of unexploded dynamite and pyrotol planted throughout the basement of the school's south wing. Kehoe apparently had intended to blow up and destroy the whole school.

What .gov is going to do with the MSM is go after our 2nd Amendment rights BIG TIME, Obama and his minions demonic glee

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:20 | 3063697 Body of Lies
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"When your leaders lie, your people will fall" ... When truth becomes irrelevant and lies become as common as truth, and when moral compass points south ... "in the land there was no king and everyone did what was right in his own eyes"

We now live with consequences of a "Body of Lies"

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:19 | 3063699 ShrNfr
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Random other info coming from various sources. A search of the shooter's house came up with a body. It is thought to be his mother at this moment. The shooter also had some connection to the school. The exact nature of that connection was not mentioned.

My deepest condolences to those effected. I will leave the 2nd amendment debate for the future.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:29 | 3063761 billwilson
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The gun debate NEVER happens, because it is NEVER a good time. As long as you don't care about the continuous parade of bodies..... keep waiting.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:20 | 3063700 Earl of Chiswick
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some media slime

this is particularly tragic as Newton is such a beautiful bucolic town with a brook running through it and large houses with wrap around porches

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:37 | 3063815 AnAnonymous
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The difference between a bum and a hipster: the hipster has an Iphone.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:47 | 3063865 Intoxicologist
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Not anymore, moon cricket.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:12 | 3064035 akak
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The difference between a Chinese hypocritizenism troll and a roadside turd?

The roadside turd is less offensive.

Signed: AnAnnoyingUs

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:23 | 3063713 Laddie
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Friday Dec 14 2012
Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China
by Terril Yue Jones

BEIJING (Reuters) - A knife-wielding man slashed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday, state media reported, the latest in a series of attacks on schoolchildren in the country.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:28 | 3063752 billwilson
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If he would have had a gun ..... but the Chinese don't let just anyone walk around with a gun.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:38 | 3064237 AnAnonymous
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Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China
____________________

Injure, kill, all the same in this 'american' world.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:47 | 3064301 akak
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Toilet, roadside, online forum, all the same in this Chinese shitizenism world.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:05 | 3064403 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak said:

Toilet, roadside, online forum, all the same in this Chinese shitizenism world.

Yes, yes, and it explains the crustiness of keyboard used by AnAnonymous. He sometimes gets excited and types with his dung hand.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 20:38 | 3065161 AGORACOM
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INJURE .... INJURE .... INJURE ... INJURE!

Can any human really be this stupid?

George ... The Greek ... And Conservative ... From Canada

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:26 | 3063738 billwilson
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Americans and their guns. You reap what you sow. What a screwed up society is all I can say.

Heck in the UK, even the police don't have guns ... and guess what in places where there are fewer guns, a lot fewer people get killed with guns. Bloody unbelievable isn't it.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:29 | 3063763 Bawneee Fwank
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Eat shit!

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:41 | 3063830 spellbound
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In Switzerland  EVERYBODY owns a gun :-O

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:45 | 3063853 billwilson
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Yeah, but try to use it outside the military. You have to account for every piece of ammo. They are very controlled, and even the Swiss now question their policy.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:15 | 3064051 Colonial Intent
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Swiss people are taught that a gun is a tool, most yanks think its a toy.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:43 | 3063840 AnAnonymous
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Still have not digested that we Americans kicked your royals' ass out of American and free the world from tyranny?

The problem is not guns. The problem is that the Kenyan prevents kids from packing. That is the problem.

Guns are the great equalizer. But the porch monkey in Washington want to kill us Americans. He let good white people being killed because that was the dream of his father.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:46 | 3063859 billwilson
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More proof the average educational level of Americans is grade 2 ... maybe!

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:59 | 3063960 forexskin
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more proof that you are too simple to spot a troll.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:15 | 3064455 gabeh73
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I would like to hear more about the multiple gunmen, the masked gunman, the pschological treatment of the manchurian patsy and MK Ultra.

never forget

Problem reaction solution

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:59 | 3063957 forexskin
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its all clear now.

you're a sarchastic troll looking to turn your expressed aversion to gun control into an absurdity with reductio ad absurdum rhetoric.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:15 | 3064047 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

its all clear now.

you're a sarchastic troll looking to turn your expressed aversion to gun control into an absurdity with reductio ad absurdum rhetoric.

Actually, AnAnonymous is a Chinese citizenism propagandist who periodically stops taking his antipsychotic medications. He also suffers from excremental insanitation and craps on the roadside like a common hobbo.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:21 | 3064098 akak
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Hypocritizenistic blobbing-up crapology is as monolizing of speeching means Chinese hobboism does.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:23 | 3064122 AnAnonymous
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Common hobbo? That means that 'americans' have hobbos? That they shit on the road side?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:32 | 3064177 akak
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Isn't there a movie series out about The Hobbo?

Has something to do with blobbing-up in Middle Kingdom, as I recall.

Very crusty, very mattering, very much something.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:55 | 3064344 Intoxicologist
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I thought Hobbo was what Kathy Bates did to James Caan for shitting the bed in "Misery." 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:03 | 3064397 AnAnonymous
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It must have.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:17 | 3064071 Vooter
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Um...other kids around the world aren't packing, either. And for the most part, they're not getting killed in weekly mass shootings. Why is that?

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