Newtown, CT Elementary School Shooting Tally Rises To 27 Dead, Of Whom 20 Children - Live Video

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Update 4: the NYT has released a brief biopic on Lanza's, who it turns out had Asperger's Syndrome:

He carried a black briefcase to his 10th-grade honors English class, and sat near the door so he could readily slip in and out. When called upon, he was intelligent, but nervous and fidgety, spitting his words out, as if having to speak up were painful.

 

Pale, tall and scrawny, Adam Lanza walked through high school in Newtown, Conn., with his hands glued to his sides, the pens in the pocket of his short-sleeve, button-down shirts among the few things that his classmates recalled about him.

 

He did all he could to avoid attention, it seemed.

 

Until Friday.

 

The authorities said Mr. Lanza, 20, wearing combat gear, carried out one of the deadliest mass shootings in the nation’s history. He killed 20 children and six adults at the elementary school where his mother worked, they said. He then apparently turned his gun on himself. The police said he also earlier killed his mother.

 

In his brief adulthood, Mr. Lanza had left few footprints, electronic or otherwise. He apparently had no Facebook page, unlike his older brother, Ryan, a Hoboken, N.J., resident who for several hours on Friday was misidentified in news reports as the perpetrator of the massacre.

 

Adam Lanza did not even appear in his high school yearbook, that of the class of 2010. His spot on the page said, “Camera shy.” Others who graduated that year said they did not believe he had finished school.

 

Matt Baier, now a junior at the University of Connecticut, and other high school classmates recalled how deeply uncomfortable Mr. Lanza was in social situations.

 

Several said in separate interviews that it was their understanding that he had a developmental disorder. They said they had been told that the disorder was Asperger syndrome, which is considered to be a high functioning form of autism.

 

“It’s not like people picked on him for it,” Mr. Baier said. “From what I saw, people just let him be and that was that.”

 

One former classmate who said he was familiar with the disorder described Mr. Lanza as having “very flat affect,” adding, “If you looked at him, you couldn’t see any emotions going through his head.”

 

Others said Mr. Lanza’s evident discomfort prompted giggles from those who did not understand him.

 

Law enforcement officials said Friday that they were closely examining whether Mr. Lanza had such a disorder.

More here. Indeed, there is a statistical predisposition, at least anecdotally, for those with Asperger's toward both murder and violence.  In other words, watch as the debate rages over the traditional bogeyman of gun control, in a country with over three hundred million weapons, when we may well simply be talking about a mentally ill young adult.

As for the misidentified Ryan, who for a few brief hours was presented by law enforcement as the suspected shoorter, we learn from the WSJ:

Israel raids Palestinian NGO officesKatie Colaneri, a 24-year-old resident of Hoboken, N.J., described herself as a friend of Ryan, the suspect’s brother who for hours Friday was incorrectly identified as the alleged gunman. “He [is] a little shy, but very nice and sweet,” said Ms. Colaneri, who has known Ryan for over a year.

 

She said Ryan is a gentle guy who was  devoted to his job at the Ernst & Young accounting firm. A representative for Ernst & Young would not comment on his employment status.

 

A law-enforcement official briefed on the investigation told the Associated Press that Ryan has been “extremely co-operative” and is not under arrest, although he was still being question late Friday.

 

The official said Ryan’s computers and phone records were being searched but only “in an abundance of caution.” Ryan told authorities he had not been in touch with his brother Adam in recent years, and the official said he isn’t believed to have any connection to the school killings.

 

In Hoboken, Ryan lives in a newer building that was hard-hit by superstorm Sandy, Ms. Colaneri said. He lost power for a number of days following the storm.

 

The last time she saw him, about a month ago, Ms. Colaneri recalled that Ryan ran up to her and gave her a hug.  ”I’m really shocked,” she said. “As the details unfolded, I was totally devastated.”

Update 3: ABC has released a picture of the real shooter, Adam Lanza, taken in 2005 when he was ~13 years old.

Update 2 : NY Post now refuting CNN's initial report, and stating that the shooter's real name is Adam Lanza, not Ryan Lanza, who is instead brother of the latter. At this point there appears to be a ridiculous amount of confusion who did what, so it perhaps would be prudent on behalf of the authorities to double check this information before releasing it to the media. And just out from AP:

The AP confirms this further here:

The suspect in the Connecticut school shootings is Adam Lanza, 20, the son of a teacher at the school where the shootings occurred, a law enforcement official said Friday. A second law enforcement official says the boy's mother, Nancy Lanza, is presumed dead.

 

Adam Lanza's older brother, Ryan, 24, of Hoboken, N.J., is being questioned by police, said the first official. Earlier, a law enforcement official mistakenly transposed the brothers' first names.

 

Both officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record about the developing criminal investigation.

 

The first official said Adam Lanza is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

 

According to the second official, the suspect drove to the scene of the shootings in his mother's car. Three guns were found at the scene — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols — and a .223-caliber rifle. The rifle was recovered from the back of a car at the school. The two pistols were recovered from inside the school.

 

The official also said Lanza's girlfriend and another friend are missing in New Jersey.

 

Meanwhile, former Jersey Journal staff writer Brett Wilshe said he has spoken with Ryan Lanza of Hoboken, who told Wilshe the shooter may have had Ryan Lanza's identification.

 

Ryan Lanza has a Facebook page that posted updates Friday afternoon that read that "it wasn't me" and "I was at work."

Update: According to CNN the shooter's name is Ryan Lanza, out of New Jersey. Based on a White Pages reverse lookup there is an 18-24 year old Ryan Lanza living in Hoboken, NJ whose FaceBook profile lists Newtown, CT as his home city. Whether it is the same person remains to be confirmed officially.

 

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Sadly, increasingly it appears that not a day, and certainly not a week can pass, in the US without news of some mass killing somewhere. Several days ago its was a mall in Oregon, and today it is a shooting rampage at the Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. Here is what is known: the shooter, who CBS reports is a 20 year old from New Jersey, is reported to be dead. A second shooting suspect, a 24 year old man with a bulletproof vest and 4 guns has been apprehended in custody (this has subsequently been not confirmed). According to CBS 27 people are dead, of whom 18, Connecticut Post 27 people are dead, of whom 20 tragically, children. Among the dead are the principal and the school psychologist. The AP has already dubbed it "the worst school tragedy in American history."

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Live streaming updates on everything Newtown related can be found on the Reuters website here.

More from Reuters:

 At least 27 people, including 18 children, were killed on Friday when at least one shooter opened fire at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, CBS News reported, citing unnamed officials.

 

If confirmed, it would be one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history. The holiday season tragedy follows a series of shooting rampages in the United States this year that have killed multiple victims, and it was certain to revive a debate about U.S. gun laws.

 

The principal and school psychologist were among the dead, CNN said. Witnesses reported hearing dozens of shots with some saying as many as 100 were fired.

 

The suspected shooter, 24, was armed with four weapons and wearing a bullet-proof vest, WABC reported.

 

There were unconfirmed reports of a second shooter.

 

Another person was being held in police custody after he was detained in the woods near the school wearing camouflage pants, CBS reported.

 

Sandy Hook Elementary School teaches children from kindergarten through fourth grade - roughly ages 5 to 10.

 

"It was horrendous," said parent Brenda Lebinski, who rushed to the school where her daughter is in the third grade. "Everyone was in hysterics - parents, students. There were kids coming out of the school bloodied. I don't know if they were shot, but they were bloodied."

 

Television images showed police and ambulances at the scene, and parents rushing toward the school. Parents were seen reuniting with their children and taking them home.

 

"This is going to be bad," a state official told Reuters, requesting anonymity because the scope of the tragedy remained uncertain.

 

President Barack Obama was notified and would receive regular updates throughout the day, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

 

"We're still waiting for more information about the incident in Connecticut," Carney said when asked about the president's reaction to it.

 

Carney called the event "tragic" and said there would be time later for a discussion of policy implications.

 

Obama remains committed to trying to renew a ban on assault weapons, Carney said.

 

All Newtown schools were placed in lockdown after the shooting, the Newtown Public School District said.

 

Lebinski said a mother who was at the school during the shooting told her a "masked man" entered the principal's office and may have shot the principal. Lebinski, who is friends with the mother who was at the school, said the principal was "severely injured."

 

Lebinski's daughter's teacher "immediately locked the door to the classroom and put all the kids in the corner of the room."

 

Danbury Hospital, about 11 miles (18 km) west of the school, had received three patients from the scene, a hospital spokeswoman told NBC Connecticut. The mayor of Danbury, Mark Boughton, told MSNBC: "They are very serious injuries."

An early report from CBS:

A shooting at a Connecticut elementary school Friday left several children and the gunman dead, law enforcement sources tell CBS News. At least one teacher was wounded in the shooting that sent frightened pupils into the parking lot.

 

It is unclear if there was more than one gunman at the school.

 

Law enforcement sources told CBS News senior correspondent John Miller that preliminary and unconfirmed information indicates that the shooter was the father of a student.

 

The shooter was killed and apparently had two guns, a person with knowledge of the shooting told The Associated Press. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still under way.

 

It wasn't clear how many people were injured at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. CBS Hartford affiliate WFSB-TV reports around 600 students attend the school.

 

Connecticut State Police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance described the situation to CBS New York station WCBS-AM as a "very serious school shooting."

 

A dispatcher at the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance Corps said a teacher had been shot in the foot and taken to Danbury Hospital.

 

Stephen Delgiadice said his 8-year-old daughter heard two big bangs and teachers told her to get in a corner. His daughter was fine.

 

"It's alarming, especially in Newtown, Connecticut, which we always thought was the safest place in America," he said.

 

Lisa Bailey, a Newtown resident with three children in Newtown schools, told CBSNewYork.com, "Newtown is a quiet town. I'd never expect this to happen here. It's so scary. Your kids are not safe anywhere."

 

The superintendent's office said the district had locked down schools in Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City. Schools in neighboring towns also were locked down as a precaution.

 

State police said Newtown police called them around 9:40 a.m.

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Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:58 | 3063940 subqtaneous
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You are one of my longtime, favourite commenters on ZH, but I couldn't disagree with you more.

Christianity was co-opted long ago by folks who haven't a clue, nor care what the man said . . . much like Christmas itself.

The problem with our culture and society is that it's gone completely Warholian . . . on steroids.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:49 | 3064612 lakecity55
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There is, IMHO, a big difference bewteen Religion, and a simple (faith) belief in Christ, God, etc.

-Or- your own personal belief in a HP.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:42 | 3063503 Terminus C
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One does not need to be religious to have morals, nor does religious fervor guarantee morality.

However, you are correct about the destruction of civil society from the inside...

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:20 | 3063704 Bastiat
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Exactly: my nephew is confused.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:47 | 3064599 lakecity55
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True.

I have said elsewhere to these humanist progressives, individual life and freedom has no place in their corrupt, demonic system. Humans are only meat bags to be used and killed as desired by the whims of the Politburo.

I have faith-based beliefs in what I will call a Higher Power, as I was taught to see Him.

Others may disagree, yet be just as moral as faith-based people.

It sounds simple, but practicing and demonstrating Morals is how we get our country back.

These progressives, reds, whatever, are nihlists.  They must be made irrelevant.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:54 | 3064633 F. Bastiat
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Precisely.

Today's progressives, just like their Bolshevik socialist and national socialist forefathers, are simply the macro-level manifestation of a primitive suicidal impulse. The counter-civilization yin to civilization's yang.

Shafarevich's "Socialism in our Past and Future" and "The Socialist Phenomenon" thoroughly document the suicidal urge of the inaptly named anti-social perversion called "socialism" at the societal level.  Folks tend to forget that socialists long claimed that nuclear armageddeon was simply the "triumph of socialism".

The blueprint for civilization is still Christianity, whether people subscribe to it or not. Without Christianity, for example, there is only totalitarianism - as there has always been.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 19:31 | 3064969 Lednbrass
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As a point of reality, National Socialist Germany sent "progressives" as they are known in the US today to camps- leftist parties were banned and Social Democrat types got stood against the wall or went behind the wire.

Too many people in the US don't know a damn thing about Germany in those years beyond what some imbecile on TV or radio told them- read some books. You get hung up on a label and draw conclusions that have no basis in historical reality.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:43 | 3063504 Jesus Christ
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This is not a gun control issue.  It is an issue of moral rot. 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:03 | 3063615 Cathartes Aura
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thanks jesus, but it goes even deeper than your faithful want to acknowledge.

and please, ZH, will morals be making appearances in threads now? 

interesting shift.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:08 | 3063638 SheepHerder
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+1  Finally the truth.  The root issue today's tragedy along with our foreign policy, corrupt political system, addiction to materialism, greedy banking system, sensationalized media violence, etc. all stems from a societal moral rot.  And while I'm far from proclaiming to be a  Christian, I do recognize the importance of having a set of virtues by which to live a happy and fulfilling life.  As true as that is for me on a micro level, I believe it is also true for our nation on a macro level.  Until this is addressed on a large scale, these shootings will become more frequent.   

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 21:02 | 3065243 F. Bastiat
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Prudence, discipline, and fortitude - orders of the day.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:26 | 3063719 DaveyJones
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Jesus, I've been meaning to ask, is the internet the virtual version of the holy spirit? or the other guys?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 23:03 | 3065560 GOSPLAN HERO
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Actually, it's prozac, and other violent inducing, psychotic, brain chemistry altering drugs that are doing the damage, and turning peoples brains into murderers. Every one of the mass shooters in the past 20 odd yrs. have been on big pharma drugs.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:49 | 3063538 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Yah, truthiness. I think the example is set at the top. When Geo Bush said to the world "FU I'm gonna do whatever I want" that was a strong message. Now Obomba says "FU we're gonna kill whomever we want" with his disgusting little drone snuff games. Or when he says "yeah these bankers broke huge laws but we're gonna let them get away with it, what are YOU gonna do about it?" What kind of society do we expect to get with these shining examples

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:28 | 3063749 Raymond Reason
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People think Christianity is a method to control the weak minded.  Au contraire, Christianity was outlawed by the Bolsheviks to weaken moral strength and character, to make the masses pliable and easier to intimidate.  That was then, and now the technique is more refined.  Infiltration and subversion is more effective than outright prohibition. 

We are under attack on multiple fronts, morality, health, prosperity, and people don't know who the enemy is, or even that there is an attack.   Masterful, yes.  But they've been doing this shit for years, and things are starting to fall apart for them also.   

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:14 | 3064040 Tator
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Yep, the Progressives war on religion has produced an imoral society. This was all predicted back in the 60s when Progressives started to attack people of faith and banning any mention of faith. It will only get worse.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 00:32 | 3065697 brettd
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Progressive is the pretty word for fascist.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 18:08 | 3064671 e-recep
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bullshit, religion is the enemy of civilization, not the foundation thereof whatsoever. don't get me started on how many lost their lives because of religion throughout the history,

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:18 | 3063315 walcott
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the same kind that gas 6 million people. The same kind that bomb plaestinian children. The same kind the murdered 100's of thousand of kids in Libya, Iraq and now Syria. The same kind that blew up the trade center. The same kind that murdered 3,000 Americans that day. The same kind that blew away a bunch of kids at a shiting batman movie.

Who the hell do you think is behind this crap? Wake up! They're coming at everybody soon enough. The whole world is one giant Warsaw ghetto. Just because you drive a mercedes or live in a million dollar house doesn't mean you're free from any of this. Watch and see how bad this gets.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:05 | 3063980 agent default
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Actually about 11 million.  Why does everyone come up with half that number?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:22 | 3063374 Sheeple Shepard
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A cowardly fuck shoots babies

 

We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear." Nelson Mandela.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:54 | 3063547 hedgeless_horseman
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...a life free of violence and fear." Nelson Mandela.

Like this?

The killings will no doubt inflame the already bitter struggle that has pitted tens of thousands of miners across the country against the mining companies, the ANC government and the official miners’ union, the NUM. Strikes, mass demonstrations and clashes with security forces have continued to spread since the August 16 police massacre of 34 striking Lonmin platinum miners at Marikana in South Africa’s North West Province. This constituted the bloodiest act of repression since the end of the apartheid regime 18 years ago.

 

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/nov2012/safr-n01.shtml

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:03 | 3063618 Calmyourself
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The disaster that is Mandela's dream realized in S. Africa deserves ten threads of it's own.  Religious or not pray for these children and their families.  Those who would use this tragedy to remove or manage the only deterrent to tyranny and further their statist goals, don't try that would be a mistake.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:36 | 3064556 El Oregonian
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Funny, hardly a mention of the 1.21 Million abortions performed yearly in the USA. That is 3,322 a day. Yes, the slaughtering of the innocents is incredibly immoral...

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:24 | 3063387 Randall Cabot
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The jew supremacists, working through The Frankfurt School, have done quite a job of destroying the culture of the once great America:

To further the advance of their ‘quiet’ cultural revolution

– but giving us no ideas about their plans

for the future – the School recommended (among

other things):

1. The creation of racism offences.

2. Continual change to create confusion

3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children

4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’

authority

5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.

6. The promotion of excessive drinking

7. Emptying of churches

8. An unreliable legal system with bias against

victims of crime

9. Dependency on the state or state benefits

10. Control and dumbing down of media

11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

 

 

http://72.52.208.92/~gbpprorg/obama/incogman.net-the-frankfurt-school-conspiracy-to-corrupt.pdf   

More on The Frankfurt School:

 http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/chap5.pdf  

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:46 | 3063429 Ruffcut
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Don't just blame the joo, everyone has a hand in all the bullshit. Everyone....

We all need to take responsibility for ALL of the children.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:16 | 3063667 Randall Cabot
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There's at least 9 morons here who believe everyone has a hand in this???

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:41 | 3063829 Raymond Reason
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Americans et al, have been grafted into the yid vine. 

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 04:13 | 3065855 smart girl
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I said "Up" because I think it is silly to blame the Jews. By participating in this reality we are thereby a part of it.

Sat, 12/15/2012 - 11:53 | 3066250 Randall Cabot
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Are you denying that the Frankfurt School were jews? And that the controllers of the mass media, including TV and Hollywood, have put the Frankfurt School's recommendations into practice? And that other institutions promoting the Frankfurt School's recommendations like the advertising industry and the NEA are also controlled by jews And that leading jew supremacist politicians like Jacob Javitz and Emmanuel Cellar working with jewish organizations like the AJC and the ADL have been responsible for mass third world immigration, both legal and illegal?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:29 | 3063433 q99x2
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Bankster mercinaries in Arab nations.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:35 | 3063465 WarriorClass
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There's always a mysterious second suspect that is never reported on again after the initial reports of shooting like this.  All these shootings have the earmarks of an MKUltra operation.  The second suspect, never found, is the handler.  I suspect the government will keep up these false flag operations until they convince a majority of people to give up their guns, or vote for gun bans.  Making it illegal to have a gun in a school zone didn't work and banning guns will not work, except to give an upper hand to those that do have guns, criminals and government thugs.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:05 | 3063628 lakecity55
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Also, have you notices the MO? They almost always have a LB Vest, wear camouflage, have a dark bag from which they draw their weapons.

Also, witnesses and some officers report multiple shooters, but later they are always denied.

No, I do not really know if it's MKUltra, but, hey, it could be. It's obvious there is a commonality in these shooters.

They are serving a purpose for some group.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:20 | 3063701 goldfish1
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They are serving a purpose for some group.

The group that thinks it's ok to off 27 people including children to further their agenda.

Too many people know the game and can share this info thanks to forums like this.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 16:59 | 3064366 WarriorClass
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CBS reports, "Authorities initially believed that there were two gunmen and were searching cars around the school."  There's always a controller around.  

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:39 | 3064570 lakecity55
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What's really bad is you abso-lutely cannot trust the "media" OR the "government."

There are also parallels to this in the Norway shooting.

We should study the facts which fall between the cracks and the items the media tries to brush aside.

The Truth is out there.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:40 | 3064572 The Joker
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Well, to be fair, you need an LB vest when you plan on killing yourself afterwords.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 23:23 | 3065599 MrButtoMcFarty
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Halo....or any other 1st person shooter....

Life/Death is just a video game.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:56 | 3063581 DCFusor
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What kind of fuck shoots babies?

 

The kind who can be sure no legally armed citizen will stop him.  The incidents where that happens, and few to no innocents are harmed, don't get reported.  It doesn't sell ads in the news.

 

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 14:59 | 3063593 firstdivision
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Future NRA statement: Maybe if those elementary kids had been given guns and taught trigger discipline, this wouldn't have heppened.

Future Liberal statment: This is why we need to ban guns

Reality: Ignoring the causality.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 15:08 | 3063637 subqtaneous
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This one is a watershed moment, folks.

The sh*t is gonna fly now.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:22 | 3064486 El Oregonian
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Boy, I'm very sad today... Sad for the children... Sad for their parents, grandparents, family members... ... I am also for the children killed in drone attacks... servicemen sacrificed in Bengahzi... I also shed a tear, for them... for the shooter's parents, their siblings... I also shed a tear for the killers in our government... Their apparent immunity from prosecution... The overall corruption where the innocent get slaughtered for no reason, or even worse, to push an a agenda so heinous it is difficult to imagine...I shed a tear, a TRUE tear for the Country as a whole... For our corrupted government, For our corrupted corporations, For our corrupted citizens.

I am just sad today for the sorry state we have all been placed in. May God, forgive us all...

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:40 | 3064575 Cole Younger
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"What kind of fuck shoots babies?" 

I get your point and I agree what kind of monster would do this.

I also ask, what kind of government invades countries and commits collateral murder? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

I also ask, what kind of government allows 25,000 alcohol (drunk driving) deaths a year? 

 

I ask allot of questions...


Fri, 12/14/2012 - 17:54 | 3064600 El Oregonian
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"What kind of f*ck shoots babies?

What the f*ck is f*cking wrong with people?!?!?!?"

EXACLY! What kind of people MURDER 1.21 Million babies in the USA annually? That works out to 3,322 a day getting aborted right here in  America... And yet, we look the other way...

 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 20:20 | 3065118 Freedom Pilot
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Damn straight.

We curse the lack of personal responsibility but we are happy to divorce our spouse who nags us or abort the child we didn't want.  And then we wonder why there is no personal responsibility.  I even saw a commenter right here on ZH blame the lack of personal responsibility on the rich!  He posted it oblivious to the dripping irony of it all.  Pathetic.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 18:08 | 3064680 Ag1761
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My heart ges out to all those poor kids and their families and friends. I had someone close who lost a relative when Dunblane massacre happened here in Scotland, tragic. I just don't have the words, tonight I shall weep. What a fucking world we live in.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 18:52 | 3064839 SILVERGEDDON
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ALL OF THESE SHOOTINGS HAPPENED IN GUN FREE ZONES. 

Let that sink in just a bit. Responsible gun owners don't do this shit - but if they were present and carrying, most likely the victim would be the nut bar, and, hopefully, no one else.

Even a nut would think twice about pulling shit like this off if he thought almost everyone around him was packing heat. 

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 21:09 | 3065269 F. Bastiat
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Psychosis, depression, etc. Possibly drug induced by legal or illegal drugs.

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 22:41 | 3065509 hivekiller
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What the fuck is wrong with you that you can't think or are you just a shill? Lots of talk among the pols about gun control and then one incident after another of mass murder. How slow are you people? You think they don't have shooters come in and do the job while they plant it on some drugged out freak? Again, just how slow are you people?

Fri, 12/14/2012 - 23:02 | 3065555 GOSPLAN HERO
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Actually, it's prozac, and other violent inducing, psychotic, brain chemistry altering drugs that are doing the damage, and turning peoples brains into murderers. Every one of the mass shooters in the past 20 odd yrs. have been on big pharma drugs.

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