Guest Post: Hey You

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform,

Hey you, out there on the road
always doing what you’re told,
Can you help me?
Hey you, out there beyond the wall,
Breaking bottles in the hall,
Can you help me?
Hey you, don’t tell me there’s no hope at all
Together we stand, divided we fall.

Pink Floyd – Hey You


“A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.” Aldous Huxley – Brave New World

The world makes less sense every day. Little children are randomly slaughtered in their schoolrooms. Predator drones roam the skies over foreign countries exterminating bad guys, along with innocent women and children (collateral damage when it occurs in a foreign country). Drugged up mentally ill kids with no hope and no future live lives of secluded quiet desperation until they snap. Ignorant, government educated, welfare dependent drones with no self respect or respect for others, assault, kill and rob within their government created urban jungles. Sociopathic criminals who committed the largest financial crime in world history walk free and continue to occupy executive suites in luxury office towers in downtown NYC, collecting millions in bonuses as compensation for crushing the American middle class.  Academics, whose theories have been thoroughly disproven, continue to steer our economy into an iceberg while accelerating the money printing and debt issuance that will sink our ship of state. Corrupt, bought off politicians pander to the lowest common denominator as their votes are only dependent upon who contributed the most to their election campaigns, which never end. Delusional, materialistic, egocentric, math challenged consumers (formerly known as citizens) live for today, enslave themselves in debt, vote themselves more entitlements, and care not for future generations. The alienation and isolation created by our sprawling, automobile dependent, technology obsessed, government controlled, debt financed society has spread like a cancerous tumor, slowly killing our country.

Pink Floyd released The Wall 33 years ago. It was a concept rock opera album that explored the issues of ababdonment, isolation, alienation, authoritarianism, the brutality of war, a tyrannical conformist educational system, and the walls individuals and society build to protect themselves from having to confront reality and deal with the consequences of their actions. I attended the Roger Waters Wall Concert this past summer at Citizens Bank Park with my three sons. Three decades later, the message is more powerful than ever. The government oppression and never ending wars waged by the American Empire around the world have created a society built upon fear and loathing. Roger Waters’ vision is colored by Orwell’s 1984 dystopian nightmare of lies, misinformation, propaganda and brutality. The missing piece, which Waters didn’t see coming in 1979, was the ability of the oligarchs to use their control of the credit system to entrap the masses by convincing them to love their servitude and become so consumed with material possessions and the love of money that they would become nothing more than passive egotistical consumers.

Since 1979, Total Credit Market Debt in the United States has risen from $4.3 trillion to $55.3 trillion, a 1,286% increase in 33 years. Over this same time frame total wages and salaries have risen from $1.3 trillion to $6.9 trillion, a 531% increase. GDP has grown from $2.6 trillion to $15.8 trillion, a 608% increase. Luckily for the oligarchs, the math challenged masses don’t understand that 375% of the increase in GDP is strictly due to Federal Reserve created inflation, as the U.S. dollar has lost 68% of its purchasing power since 1979. This GDP growth was driven by debt, with consumer expenditures rising from 61% of GDP in 1979 to 71% of GDP today. In the one hundred years since the creation of the Federal Reserve the country’s population has tripled, while our public debt and unfunded liabilites have risen from $2 billion to over $200 trillion, a ten million percent increase. The masses have been programmed and conditioned to love their debt servitude and yearn for more debt to fix an economic system that collapsed due to excessive debt. The cadre of ruling elite are obliging by creating debt at hyperspeed levels. The corporate media, Wall Street shysters and low-life captured politicians assure the sheep-like masses that this is normal and beneficial to their interests, as the sheep are sheared and led to slaughter.               

“There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them.”George Orwell


Pavlov’s Dogs


 “And always, everywhere, there would be the yelling or quietly authoritative hypnotists; and in the train of the ruling suggestion givers, always everywhere, the tribes of buffoons and hucksters, the professional liars, the purveyors of entertaining irrelevances. Conditioned from the cradle, unceasingly distracted, mesmerized systematically, their uniformed victims would go on obediently marching and countermarching, go on, always and everywhere, killing and dying with the perfect docility of trained poodles.” -  Aldous Huxley

Aldous Huxley and Edward Bernays realized in the 1920s that the utilization of conditioning and propaganda techniques could be used to control and manipulate the masses. Ivan Pavlov, the famous Russian physiologist, conducted the ground breaking work on conditional reflexes. Pavlov discovered that when a bell was rung in subsequent time with food being presented to a dog in consecutive sequences, the dog will initially salivate when the food is presented. The dog will later come to associate the ringing of the bell with the presentation of the food and salivate upon the ringing of the bell. To a critical thinking human being who questions authority, resists being told what they should think, and values their humanity, over what is crammed down their throat by government run schools and the corporate controlled media, the thought of being treated like a dog is revolting. But to people like Edward Bernays, who believed manipulation of the masses by an invisible contingent of intellectually superior men, conditioning the minds of the masses through propaganda was a necessity in a democratic society to keep the herd under control.

Just a cursory examination of our society reveals a population of salivating consumers (dogs) who can be stimulated to buy the latest iPhone or techno-gadget with a simple Madison Avenue advertising campaign (bell). Everyone has seen the videos of the masses lining up like cattle on Black Friday, stampeding through aisles, and fighting each other like their the entertainment at Michael Vick’s house on a Saturday night. All the mega-corporate retailers and the corporate media have to do is ring a bell (SALE) and the dogs start salivating. Product placement, Hollywood star endorsements and influential people using a product immediately convince the easily manipulated dogs to salivate and purchase the products. The difference is that these dogs have credit cards issued by the Wall Street banks and funded by the Federal Reserve with dollars created out of thin air.  We are inundated with millions of TV, newspaper, radio, billboard, and internet advertisements designed to make us salivate (spend). Huxley’s dystopian vision of a society whose economic values, in which individual happiness is defined as the ability to satisfy needs, and achievement as a society is equated with economic growth and prosperity, has come to full fruition. He never conceived of consumers having the ability to consume without even having the money to do so. The credit card became our form of Soma. The so called progressives point to our ever increasing “advancements” in technology as proof that our society is progressing. Huxley knew otherwise, decades before we reached this disgusting point in history:

“Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards.” -  Aldous Huxley

In reality our “technological progress” has done nothing more than create a humorless, shallow, superficial world of alienation and egocentric desires. Just as in Huxley’s Brave New World, science and technology have not been used to seek truth and advance our culture. They have been used by the State to sensor, control, and monitor the citizens. They use technology as a means to create electronic entertainment machines that generate both harmless leisure and the high levels of consumption and production that are the basis of societal stability and state designed happiness. When those in control talk about progress, they mean greater control over our lives. When the consumption of material goods isn’t enough to fill the holes within our souls, our owners are quick to prescribe a pill to smooth over those feelings of unease and discontent. In Huxley’s novel the population voluntarily consumes Soma to dispel any anxieties or negative emotion. The saying was, “One cubic centimeter cures ten gloomy sentiments.” In America the government controlled drug industry has thousands of pills to treat every ailment or unhappy thought that might ail you. Just don’t try and treat yourself with an unapproved natural or banned substance. The threat of imprisonment always lurks in the shadows. They just want us to be interchangeable bricks in the wall.

And the Worms Ate Into His Brain

“The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does. They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.” -  Aldous Huxley


 Hey you, out there in the cold
Getting lonely, getting old
Can you feel me?
Hey you, standing in the aisles
With itchy feet and fading smiles
Can you feel me?
Hey you, don’t help them to bury the light
Don’t give in without a fight.

Pink Floyd – Hey You

The tragic deaths of twenty children and six adults in Newtown, Connecticut this past week and the similar tragedies in Aurora, Columbine, Virginia Tech and Tucson are a reflection of the twisted society we’ve created. The progressive control freak do-gooders that believe the government can solve all problems and improve our lives with another law or regulation, have as usual come to the wrong solution for the wrong problem. Stricter gun control laws would not have averted this this tragedy. Connecticut has the 5th toughest gun restrictions in the country according to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. The guns were purchased legally by the mother of the killer. Mentally deranged people should not have access to guns, knives, automobiles, gasoline, or baseball bats. The real issue is not what he used to kill these innocent people, it’s what caused him to snap. Those in power want to divert the attention from this crucial question. In Huxley’s novel the characters do everything they can to avoid confronting the truth about their own lives. They try to alter reality by ingesting Soma, encouraged by the state as the ultimate form of willful self-delusion. Soma clouds the realities of the present and replaces them with happy hallucinations, and is thus a tool for promoting social stability. America has taken Huxley’s dystopian vision to an extreme. There are millions of children in this country being drugged on a daily basis to keep them under control. A majority of the mass murderers were taking psychotropic drugs, including the mentally deranged killer this week. These killings are a result of the state sponsored drugging of children, a culture that promotes narcissism, broken families and our technologically enhanced suburban sprawl isolation from human relationships, love and compassion for others.

We glorify technology even though it encourages the building of brick walls, creating a self-imposed isolation from society. The traditional family unit has been discarded, with 50% of marriages ending in divorce and 43% of all children born out of wedlock. Millions of families are dysfunctional, with parents too busy with their careers and acquiring material possessions, to bother with raising their children in a loving nurturing way. One in ten American adults choose to escape their man made cells with prescription anti-depressants. Almost one in four women in their 40s and 50s are popping pills to escape their depressing lives. Huxley envisioned a Soma Nation. America is a Prozac Nation. The wealthy think medicating their kids, spoiling them with toys, gadgets and cars, and occupying their days with organized sports and activities passes for involved parenting. Poor urban children are lucky if they ever lay eyes on their father. Ignorance, violence, and dependency are a given for most of these kids. And all of these children are matriculated into the government run schools whose sole purpose is to teach kids what to think, rather than how to think. Our owners need to keep us “happy” and focused on feelings, material possessions, and an infinite number of distractions, so they can retain control and continue their pillaging of the national wealth.       

Our leaders have attempted to design their own Brave New World, retaining control by making America’s citizens so contented and superficially fulfilled that they no longer care about their personal freedoms, liberties and civic responsibilities. The consequences of increasing state power are a loss of dignity, morals, values, and emotions. We are losing our humanity. The society created by Bernays and his minions who occupy the executive suites in NYC and slither through the halls of Congress has been built upon destroying all human truths, such as love, friendship, community, and personal connections. Decades of media propaganda, public education mind control, and peddling of debt convinced the majority that happiness meant immediate gratification of our desires for food, sex, drugs, clothes, iGadgets, and all the other consumer crap made in corporate sponsored slave labor factories across Asia. These delusional hallucinations of happiness are the prison walls we’ve built brick by brick.

 “This concern with the basic condition of freedom — the absence of physical constraint — is unquestionably necessary, but is not all that is necessary. It is perfectly possible for a man to be out of prison and yet not free — to be under no physical constraint and yet to be a psychological captive, compelled to think, feel and act as the representatives of the national State, or of some private interest within the nation, want him to think, feel and act.” -  Aldous Huxley

It took the intellectuals and progressives that wield power across the land only moments to hijack the feelings of sorrow and pain sweeping the nation, to misdirect attention from the mental illnesses caused by the society they’ve created, towards the false storyline that gun violence is sweeping the land. In reality, violent crime has been falling for over a decade as gun sales have soared. The homicide rate in this country is the lowest since 1964, with the vast majority of homicides occurring in the urban kill zones created by the five decade long progressive war on poverty. The truth is of no interest to those brandishing power. After decades of conditioning, the masses are psychologically captive to the messages designed to make them salivate. They will be compelled to think, feel and act as instructed by the Alphas. There will be calls for more police, despite the fact that police rarely stop a crime. With all of their armaments, technology, high powered weaponry, and political clout, they can be counted on to arrive five minutes after the tragedy is over. But they are brilliant in luring clueless Muslim teenagers into terrorist plots, picking the target, providing the fake bombs, and taking credit for foiling the plots they created. More union police officers will increase our safety as much as more union teachers have made our kids smarter. This tragedy will be used by the propagandists to impose further restrictions upon those who choose personal responsibility and self-reliance over dependency and trust in the efficiency and fairness of our benevolent government overlords.

 File:Violent Crime Rates in the United States.svg

As the father of three sons I can’t imagine the pain, sorrow and emptiness the parents of these beautiful children must be experiencing. The grief is overwhelming. I mourn for the children and adults slaughtered by a mentally deranged young man created by our truly perverted culture of alienation. I mourn for the children being raised in a society run by evil psychopathic liars that use the power of propaganda and the tools of debt to control and manipulate its citizens. I mourn for unborn generations that will be forced to confront the dreadful depraved chaos created by our culture of egocentric greed and narcissism. The things we value in this culture – accumulating wealth, outward beauty, acquisition of material possessions, instant gratification, access to debt, government control, and curing our ills with drugs – are driving us insane. Who is really abnormal in a profoundly abnormal society? Believing that possessions, more laws or another medication will truly make us happy is insane. Popping a pill, buying a new iPhone, or passing another law will not cure the disease that permeates this nation. We need to recapture the humanity, civic pride and self-responsibility that built this country. Only an awakened populace can change our course.

Huxley feared that our desires would ruin us. Orwell was afraid that what we fear would ruin us. The oligarchs have pushed the Huxley vision to its sustainable limit. The avarice and greed of these invisible power brokers has devoured the vast resources of the nation. These psychopaths weren’t satisfied with siphoning off most of the wealth of the country. They wanted it all and wrecked the global economy in their odious pursuit of mammon. We are now in the death throes of the most decadent, delusional, debt engendered era in the long history of mankind. Those in power realize it is slipping away. Their “solutions” reflect an air of desperation. Their propaganda efforts have been redoubled. As more middle class workers lose their jobs, more young people graduate from college with tens of thousands in student loan debt and a future of dramatically reduced expectations, and more people are driven beyond their breaking point, this materialistic shroud of happiness will be torn asunder. Anger is building like a lava dome within a volcano. A critical thinking minority are questioning the motives of those in power. The unsustainability of our economic paradigm is certain. The seeds of revolution are being sown. Our society is only fantasy. The wall is too high. It will be up to an irate tireless minority of freedom minded citizens to tear down the wall. The alternative is to allow the worms to eat into our brains. Each of us must answer a simple question. Are you just another brick in the wall?

But it was only fantasy.
The wall was too high,
As you can see.
No matter how he tried,
He could not break free.
And the worms ate into his brain.

Pink Floyd – Hey You


The oligarchs will not give up without a fight. Their realization that the Brave New World method of controlling the masses has run its course has convinced them to shift their methods towards Orwell’s 1984 tactics. In part two of this series – Mother Should I Trust the Government? - I’ll address how the use of fear, war, pain, and surveillance are becoming the new controlling method of the oligarchs.

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fuu's picture

I never said that you said she was a criminal dude, nor did I imply it.

Since 12:52 Friday 12/14/12 Ben has printed another $4,521,600,000.

356 people in America have died in car accidents.

While over 180 million gun owners have not shot anyone.


Let's keep spreading around the innuendo and hearsay though, I mean we don't get enough of that sort of thing already.


fonzannoon's picture

Cougar describing every "rich person" as one in the same in the arrogant fashion that she did it is spreading innuendu and hearsay...I did not see you calling her out. Are you her fluffer?

I made it clear through and through with every post that none of this has been verified. I was not arrogantly stating an opinion accepting the bullshit news as fact. You had a bone to pick for whatever reason and you are trying to paint me as having done that. That is bullshit.

fuu's picture

Yeah cougar was being a douche and you went after him and won that round. Your attack on Flak was weak bullshit though and in the end you looked like a douche too.

That's fight club for you.

fonzannoon's picture

Anything I said to flak I did my best to put in the context that no one knows what really happened. But if that was not good enough for you I get it. And your unwillingness to call a spade a sapde with cougar until just now makes you a hypocrite. I guess that is fight club.


fuu's picture

Pretty sure calling someone out for doing what you were doing is the actual hypocracy.

fonzannoon's picture

If it were up to you no one would talk about anything because none of us truly knows what goes on 100% of the time. Zerohedge would be non existant. Sounds like fun. I made sure my comments were clarified by the fact that no one knows what really happened. If I was just arrogantly stating my opinion as facts as Couger and Flak did and then called them out that would be hypocritical.

fuu's picture

Yes head off into ad absurdum land. See ya!

fonzannoon's picture

Be careful with those video games they will rot your brain.

fuu's picture

Mossy up your tv first.

Al Huxley's picture

I agree fonz. There's nothing fucking funny, or ironic about 20 innocent kids being killed.  Maybe the mother being killed by her own creation was ironic (but not funny) but the rest of it was just sick, and fucking heartbreaking.

fonzannoon's picture

Thanks Al....I mean holy shit...If you reduce it to the mother and the son....there is irony there....but people getting a laugh out of this makes me hope that Bernanke gets it right. Because as much as I think we need a reset....if some of the most mentally disturbed people out there are the ones most prepared for it....society is totally fucked.

Everybodys All American's picture

If society spins out of control economically this is unfortunately going to be common. People have lost their moral compass entirely in America.

wisefool's picture

What was she worried about? This honestly confuses me. She was getting $240,000/yr alimony (soon to be adjusted to $300,000) From the man who makes sure G.E. pays no taxes. (100% job security, especially considering he works for the job czar jeff immelt)

Even after a collapse, she would still be getting paid. In SDRs, In PMs, in uranium credits, in water credits,, tulips, etc. Whatever the basis of the next phase of central planning is, G.E. would be part of it. I would think preppers would be poor people preparing for 2 more years of drought. Not a stepford ex-wife like this.

mendolover's picture

Anyone think it's possible that being married (or not) to a top auditor for GE would give her a little insight into where the economy is headed under the watch of all these goddamn psycopaths?

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Bingo. She may not have been able to control her mentally ill son, but it's obvious to me that at least she could think clearly about some things.

Instead of piling on this poor woman, how about a little sympathy? Her son did shoot her in the head a bunch of times. Imagine the horror of being confronted, shot, and killed by your own son.

wisefool's picture

You guys make good points. I admitted I was confused  (doesn't take much). I also meant no disrespect. sincere appologies if it came off that way. (cant edit my post anymore)

tickhound's picture

Dude speak your mind... You're on the right track here.

Insight into Central Planning?  Trust me, OUR GE JOB CZAR is hard at work trying to fix shit.

To Freddie's disappointment I was watching TV last night (Pats v 9'ers) and here is the latest NUMB YOU commercial piece....


-Zirp tied to unemployment.

-Squash a Union here, squash one there... And as I've said, the Klepto-libtards WILL LAY DOWN for this shit... as the tards at HuffPo will discover soon enough. 

So now what, bitchez?  Look to the neocons for help?  LOL.

Systemic change or a government teet for all.  Fewer and fewer $ in productive labor.  The dayz of the "little guy" working hard to appreciate the fruits of his labor are buzzing away by the flicking of more switches.  And the multi-nationals don't give a shit.  If the system stays intact the BEST society could hope for is for these profits to be "redistributed" to the ever increasing jobless.

We can't ALL be scientists and technicians. 

tickhound's picture

Yeah but francis, isn't this just a promo for Glenn Beck's book AGENDA 21?  My understanding is that he was "mocking" it in the video.

The video I posted actually AIRED... during the game.

Freddie's picture

Keep watching TV. Keep supporting GE/Comcast/Universal. Keep supporti The Matrix like a good little sheep.

tickhound's picture

For someone who never watches TV, you always seem to know what's on and when, the latest hollywood gossip, what that latest movie is about, the actors and producers involved, their history, AND WHO THEY FUCK.

You sound more and more like a hypocritical broken record everyday.

You were relevant the first 50 times.  You should update your schtick.


cougar_w's picture

No you made good points. She was part of the upper 2% of the nation, an eviable position. What happened here was clearly a case of not being able to descriminate fantasy from fact, running off the deep end, and dying in the swamps of self delusion. The most sensible thing for her to have done was ignore the world entirely. If she had just maybe she would not have driven an already unstable boy bat-shit crazy with fears of the dark.

francis_sawyer's picture

You guys are still missing my point above...


~ She's making all that alimony loot

~ She's a PREPPER

Tick Tick Tick Tick... WHERE'S THE FUCKING GOLD?


cougar_w's picture


The upper 2% know how to do this shit right.

unrulian's picture

where do you think? The pigs took it....and who cares it was soiled.. joobuck alimony and all.. donkey

tip e. canoe's picture

well since everyone is playing monday evening armchair Freud, i would propose that having an absent father who works as an asshole accountant helping G-fucking-E find new & ingenious loopholes to avoid taxes while at the same time sucking on the government teat probably had more than a little bit to do with it as well.   especially if the mom was vocal about her fears at the way society was heading, while at the same time living in a McMansion and collecting checks every month from same absent father.

anyone who has been around here long enough to witness the rage that is spewed should be able to understand how that dysfunctional hypocrisy could create a violent schism in someone who was particularly sensitive to their environment.

that is, if the story we are being told is accurate.

Cathartes Aura's picture

ah, finally an alternative to the prevailing storyline. . .

I'll add a bit to your proposal - asshole accountant Gee-we-don't-pay-taxes-lawl-E might have shared some tales of life inside the machine with mom, thus ramping up her fears 'round about this time in the matrix, and given her first-borne jumped ship with daddy (hadn't seen his younger brother since the divorce in 2010, working same professional story, hm), it would appear she and her younger child might have felt cut loose, adrift. . . holed up in her McMansion, monied yes, but watching the world through a parallel set of lenses than her most likely more docile sheeple neighbours. . .

fed an insider version of the world, abandoned. . . with a child that would be fully dependent on her. . .

that is, if the story we are being told is accurate.

tip e. canoe's picture

always happy to oblige with the take from leftfield aura.    concur with your embellishment -- they were married for 28 years after all.   interesting that the divorce papers mentioned "financial disputes" not "parenting disputes" as the reason (hattip: blindman).

that is, that is...

Cathartes Aura's picture

yes, hattip blindman here too, I read his posts as he's another well reasoned poster. . .

by the way, "28 years" is a saturn cycle, the source of the "7 year itch" meme applied to relationships is the first quarter square (tension applied to original decision) - very common in marriages/etc. - I know most don't consider these things of interest, but following the patterns always throws up interesting correlations. . .

so their relationship had fulfilled the original purpose, whatever that might have been, and it finished up with payments agreed over time, which are now null/void.   *nods*

while I'm wittering away on a dead thread, on 12/12/12 I posted this:

new moon, juuuuuuust before Uranus goes direct, whatever was *up* in July is going to get a re-do, emotionally and otherwise, inner/outer/space'd.  banana peels til year's end. . .

and what was "up" around that time but the Aurora shooter story?  Uranus retrograde 13 July, event on 20th. . . Uranus stationed direct on 13th Dec., event 14th. . . would love to see the birth details of the shooter, not to mention the whole family. . .

forensics    *nods*

Notarocketscientist's picture

I bet the husand is quite pleased - he's got an instant 'unfamily'  - he not longer has to deal with a crazy son - and best of all NO MORE ALIMONY!

Seeing as his job is to make sure GE pays no taxes you can imagine his glee - I bet the tax department people were high fiving him the morning after

Overfed's picture

That's awful. And the truth is likely worse. That guy is in a position to have his own kid MKUltra'ed into committing this heinous shit. Food for thought.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

I really wanted to hit the down arrow when I saw:

I bet the husand is quite pleased - he's got an instant 'unfamily'  - he not longer has to deal with a crazy son - and best of all NO MORE ALIMONY!

because it appeared to be taking cynicism to a hyperbolic degree. I couldn't do it, though, because after reading this:

Seeing as his job is to make sure GE pays no taxes you can imagine his glee - I bet the tax department people were high fiving him the morning after

it struck me, in a visceral manner, that this would be the exact response of a psychopath/sociopath in that particular situation.

fonzannoon's picture

If a collapse happens supply lines shut down. Her alimony and a lot more would be done in an instant. You think an economic collapse happens and her husband and GE is still kickin ass? That is not a collapse.

The fact that she knew what you are saying and was still prepping means either she had some issues or knews something you and I did not.

cougar_w's picture

Or maybe she just drank too much.

Bay of Pigs's picture

We don't know if he shot his mother. We don't know if he acted alone. We dont know if he was on drugs and/or brainwashed. We don't what guns were used. And on and on...we aren't being told anything else than what the govt controlled media wants us to "know".

A Lunatic's picture

Well that's no reason not to jump to judgmental conclusions based on our own greed, envy, hatred, ignorance, self entitlement or agenda is it?


cougar_w's picture

Maybe someone shot her from a grassy knoll?

Why not. It's about as likely as all that other stuff you mention.

Zap Powerz's picture


Well, that is my problem.  I thought about quitting, but I figure when the collapse happens I quit then since there wont be any more to drink.  In the meantime......

THX 1178's picture

"Even after a collapse, she would still be getting paid."


Why? Because you say so.

cougar_w's picture

Because that's what happens when you live in the upper 2% of the world.

These fuckers don't lose, ever. Who doesn't get that part?

cougar_w's picture

Well she wasn't losing until she ran her life off the rails and took 4 bullets in the brain. That was just dumb. All that money, and so dumb.

fonzannoon's picture

So if her son was not a "problem" then she would still have run her life off the rails because she feared an economic collapse? Someone doing pretty well for themselves....but yet concerned about an economic collapse and preparing for wrong to be doing that? All because they were doing well in the current sutuation? All preppers have to be economically in bad shape? I am missing your point.

cougar_w's picture

I don't know what motivates people. I wonder sometimes if it's been thought through or not, but it's not my thing so I don't over analyze it. All I'm saying is she in particular given her welath and connections was probably playing a fantasy and went over the deep end and got herself killed. Maybe she wanted to be part of another class of people, people who are not dragging things down but ready to pull things back up, but didn't know how to go about it and sort of screwed around instead.

Listen, if she really had felt that way, that it was all going south adn it was time to get serious, she might have been on her toes and paying attention. But buying guns and leaving them laying around for anyone to get their hands on, and probably playing up how bad things will be and pretending to be Tarzan or Conan the Barbarian, while her kid is tweeking and doing God knows what drugs on the side, it's just a recipe for someone's shit coming unwired.

I would hope that most people preparing for a societal collapse would have their game on and not have someone standing behind them some day with one of their own loaded guns. But what do I know?

fonzannoon's picture

Maybe it is just as simple as you said above. She drank too much and was sloppy.

Oldwood's picture

The children are most parent's greatest weakness. They will tolerate things from there kids that they would never accept from anyone else. There are plenty of bad parents out there and obviously this mother failed on some level, whether it was failing to get her son proper treatment or inadequate handling of her weapons, but as with most things none of us are without flaw and should show some empathy for her regardless. Condemning her because she had money or was a prepper just seems like a waste of time and reflects poorly on everyone here. Not that anyone gives a damn what anyone thinks.

centerline's picture

No way man.  To be in the top 2% isn't really all that.  Your lumping ballplayers and hollywood (as examples) in the mix.  That "wealth" will be vaporized.  Most of the "so called" wealthy will be screwed.  And because they really didn't see it coming, and have father to fall, it will be a real bitch for them to adapt.  Plus, this fucked up world rewards people wildly for things that have no real value.  That ain't gonna happen when the real value of labor and resources crashes back to reality.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

You people are actually relying on reporting from a British paper, to pass judgment on this woman?

The fucking English are so far gone their idea of prepping for bad times would be to have 12 pints, get into a fight at the pub, throw up in the alley, and wake up in a ditch with their pants around their ankles.

EverythingFubar's picture

Beer and peanuts..worked for Arthur Dent..