Mike Bloomberg Calls For Ban On Assault Weapons

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In the least unexpected news of the week, Mayor Mike, whose forays into central planning started with banning sugary sodas, and then proceeded to gas rationing, has just done what everyone expected him to do, and demand a ban on all assault weapons:

  • MAYOR BLOOMBERG CALLS FOR ENFORCEABLE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN
  • MAYOR BLOOMBERG CALLS FOR PASSING GUNS CHECK ACT
  • MAYOR BLOOMBERG CALLS FOR MAKING GUN TRAFFICKING A FELONY
  • MAYORS AGAINST ILLEGAL GUNS TO SEND VIDEO STATEMENTS TO CONGRESS

We eagerly await the imminent escalation: the "taxable inhalable oxygen for those making over $250,000 - it's only fair act" to be proposed by Mayor Mike and his central-planning enamored brethren in D.C. next.

From AP:

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and dozens of shooting survivors and victims' relatives are calling on Congress and President Barack Obama to tighten gun laws and enforcement.

 

The mayor was appearing at City Hall Monday with 34 people whose own lives or the lives of their relatives have been affected by gun violence around the country. They're sending videos to lawmakers telling their stories.

 

Bloomberg has long been an advocate for tougher national gun regulations. He has found himself at the forefront of a re-energized push for gun control since Friday's massacre at a Connecticut elementary school.

 

He says the carnage "demands immediate national action."

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Mon, 12/17/2012 - 16:52 | 3072513 WeekendTrader
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I didn't. I make the simple observation that as you have fewer weapons the chances of one them used inappropriately goes down.

But that probably doesn't make sense to you, but it worked in Australia and many other countries.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:24 | 3072593 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I didn't.

 

 So you agree that responsible adults should have the ability to defend children against murderers even in schools?

 

 

I make the simple observation that as you have fewer weapons the chances of one them used inappropriately goes down.

 

Gun bans have accompanied increased crime in some places as well. But you probably don't understand that the mere presence of inanimate objects is not the definitive factor.

 

Care of justfacts.com we learn that:

In 2007, there were 613 fatal firearm accidents in the United States, constituting 0.5% of 123,706 fatal accidents that year.

These emergency room visits for non-fatal firearm accidents resulted in 5,045 hospitalizations, constituting 0.4% of 1.4 million non-fatal accident hospitalizations that year.

During the years in which the D.C. handgun ban and trigger lock law was in effect, the Washington, D.C. murder rate averaged 73% higher than it was at the outset of the law, while the U.S. murder rate averaged 11% lower.

The homicide rate in England and Wales has averaged 52% higher since the outset of the 1968 gun control law and 15% higher since the outset of the 1997 handgun ban.

Since the outset of the Chicago handgun ban, the Chicago murder rate has averaged 17% lower than it was before the law took effect, while the U.S. murder rate has averaged 25% lower.

Since the outset of the Chicago handgun ban, the percentage of Chicago murders committed with handguns has averaged about 40% higher than it was before the law took effect.

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-16/guest-post-how-spot-hypocrite-g...

 

 

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:28 | 3072652 WeekendTrader
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The world is greater than the US. You are cherrypicking data, pretending to be objective and rational.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:32 | 3072675 CrockettAlmanac.com
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So it's cherry picking to refer to US data when contemplating US policies?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:47 | 3072735 WeekendTrader
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Yes. When you quote a couple of articles where a gun may have saved lives and you omit the fact that more than 10,000 people in the US die of gun related violence you are cherrypicking and intentionally not giving the full picture.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 18:09 | 3072798 fuu
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.00003333333333333333333333333333%

41,000+ people died in 2007 from vehicles vs 10,000 dead from guns, yet you aren't all up in here arguing that cars should be banned right?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 18:24 | 3072864 CrockettAlmanac.com
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you omit the fact that more than 10,000 people in the US die of gun related violence

 

Picture this:

 

*Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.

 

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#crime

 

That's 989,883 - 10,000 = 979,883 net gain in victims under your policies.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 16:20 | 3072361 fuu
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20 > 290,999,980

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 16:57 | 3072533 WeekendTrader
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That math is true for the kids and the parents.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:16 | 3072606 CrockettAlmanac.com
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But more kids should have been murdered in Pearl and Edinboro in your opinion. The tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:30 | 3072667 WeekendTrader
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I did not say or imply that, nor would it be the logical consequence of what I am suggesting.

Your "reasoning" is not logical, rather you are attempting to disguise emotions as fact by twisting what I write and cherrypicking data points and pulling in data points without proper context.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:35 | 3072683 CrockettAlmanac.com
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In Pearl and Edinboro the introduction of an additional gun not wielded by a murderer saved lives. Your assertion that the number of inanimate objects is a definitive factor in crime rather than who is wielding that object leads me to no other conclusion than that you wanted more kids to be killed in those incidents.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:39 | 3072703 WeekendTrader
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The lives saved in those instances pale by how many others have died of gun related violence.

Like I said, cherrypicking and refusing to properly contextualize events.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 18:05 | 3072746 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Like I said, cherrypicking and refusing to properly contextualize events.

 

You're projecting. Government bans drugs and they are everywhere. A gun ban would stop only law abiding citizens from owning weapons. Criminals could still obtain guns as easily as they obtain methamphetamine. You are suggesting that that would make people safer and save lives. You are the one who has no ability to contextualize events.

 

The lives saved in those instances pale by how many others have died of gun related violence.

 

Meanwhile, you wish this old lady had been beaten to death with her own cane. Or did you want to ban canes as well?

 

82-year-old fights off attacker

Posted: Mar 16, 2010 5:02 PM
Updated: Mar 16, 2010 5:02 PM

 

SIERRA VISTA - An 82-year-old woman takes matters into her own hands after she's attacked in a Wal-Mart parking lot in Sierra Vista.

Police said the suspect Stephen Prickett beat the woman with her own cane until she grabbed her gun from her purse and started firing

 

I picked a few more cherries for you. Perhaps you could bake a pie.

 

elderly woman defends herself with gun

 

 

About 9,510,000 results

 

 

(0.33 seconds) https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=elder...
Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:28 | 3072655 fuu
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The rights of the few outweigh the rights of the many.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:20 | 3071974 GoinFawr
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 Great argument, but I don't think he went far enough. Better to arm them to the teeth by grade 1. After all, the decision to give one's child access to weapons ought to be entirely at the parent's discretion, right? Or are you some sort of freedom hating treasonous statist collectivist socialisty stalin loving ss blah blah blah blah blah?

Ugh.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:21 | 3072003 WeekendTrader
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You forgot that I love jews/niggers/spics/fags

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:22 | 3072007 CrockettAlmanac.com
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People should be allowed to chose their own mates but it's just plain crazy to suggest that that means that children should be forced to marry in first grade, ya know? See, that's the problem when you concentrate on "going far enough" in your argument rather than thinking and speaking rationally.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:30 | 3072032 GoinFawr
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GAsP! You mean there ought to be some groundRULES? Who gets to decide for me, YOU? Sounds pretty statist to me... <shrugs>

I know, I know, it totally sucks for you when I beat you over the head with your own 'reasoning'. Cry me a fucking river.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:34 | 3072076 CrockettAlmanac.com
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But no one here other than you suggested that first graders should be armed. You're beating yourself over the head with you own lack of reasoning.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:42 | 3072100 GoinFawr
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Nice try. As you well know I'm saying no such thing.

I'm merely pointing out how ridiculous your position is by agreeing with you; that it ought to be wholly MY CHOICE in Fantasy Freedom Land!

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:43 | 3072127 CrockettAlmanac.com
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So by making up stuff that reflects your own insanity rather than any statement made by me you have "agreed" with me and shown me to be foolish? That doesn't seem reasonable.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:54 | 3072204 GoinFawr
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hahaha! backpedal, waffle, circumlocute, obfuscate all you like, you secret santa statist you.

I agreed with your insipid 'principle', and then to make a point I followed it down the rabbit hole to one of its many sickening and irrational, but absolutely covered conclusions.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 16:12 | 3072324 CrockettAlmanac.com
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What principle was that?

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 16:54 | 3072386 GoinFawr
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...he/she asked ever so innocently. "Here we go 'round the mulberry bush" It's your fave tune, I can tell.  Can't you read?

 You are fooling absolutely no one, statist; but thanks for the chuckle anyway.

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:20 | 3072622 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Yeah, your inability to support your argument is hilarious. But you didn't need me for that.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:35 | 3072666 GoinFawr
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That's right, you just do that 'shuffle off to buffalo' thing, as per.

Everyone who's not your fluffer knows you're trying to blow smoke up our... noses.

 

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 17:37 | 3072692 CrockettAlmanac.com
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You refuse to cite the principle with which you take such great exception and I'm shuffling? That's weak.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 18:51 | 3072921 GoinFawr
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As if four times isn't enough...  Quit rooting around for a free lunch; earn it. I'm tired of repeating myself to the likes of you.

Better yet: just own up for once in your life.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 19:04 | 3072988 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I admit it. You are completely correct about that thing which you won't talk about. How could I have not seen it before? Many thanks and tender regards.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 19:21 | 3073036 GoinFawr
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Honestly, that's the only blockheaded response I expected from you.

Vislat!

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 20:04 | 3073155 CrockettAlmanac.com
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When you're right, you're right.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 20:44 | 3073258 Flakmeister
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Did you get pwn'ed again?

I swear that you get beaten worse than a rented mule...

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 20:59 | 3073307 CrockettAlmanac.com
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If you think I got "pwn'ed" perhaps you can tell me what his point was because he won't discuss it.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:19 | 3071595 jbvtme
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fucking reptoid....

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:24 | 3071598 Zer0head
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Bloomberg's New York City Week to date Crime Stats for Week ending December 9, 2012

 

Murder 8
Rape 30
Robbery 395
Fel Assault 278
Buggery 371
Gr Larceny 907
GLA 172  (WTF)
Pet Larceny 1545
Misc Assault 826
Misc Sex 65
Shooting incidents 13 (BB gun?)

 

Survey: Retired Cops Say NYPD Crime Stats Fudged

http://thechiefleader.com/news/open_articles/survey-retired-cops-say-nyp...

http://gothamist.com/2012/09/17/shocking_nypd_classifies_serious_cr.php

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:33 | 3071682 FrankDrakman
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Seriously? 371 counts of 'buggery'? I bet there's some bathhouses where that's an hour's count, not a week's.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:42 | 3071738 Mad Mohel
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LOL Buggery, is that even a real crime? It sounds like the judge should wear a Colonial times wig when giving out the sentence for that.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:58 | 3071857 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Don't mention this to Tyler, but...

 

Etymologically, a "Bugger" was a "Bulgre" (French Bougre). Originally, it was wrongly derived from the French word "Boulgrerie" ("of Bulgaria"), meaning the medieval Bulgarian clerical sect of the Bogomils, although they are not cognates.[3]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugger

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:20 | 3071600 ivana
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MAYOR BLOOMBERG CALLS FOR ENFORCEABLE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN?

Yeah, but tommorow youll see call for gov to provide DEFENCE WEAPON FOR EACH CHILD ABOVE 3YEARS ... that would also stimulate inovation cause we all know that existing guns are to heavy for kids (sarc)

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:04 | 3071882 Shell Game
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Only if they are children of rebels trying to topple a CIA-targeted regime..

 

US foreign policy FTMFW

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:21 | 3071610 Count de Money
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One thing as sure as night follows day: Whenever Bloomberg opens his mouth, something stupid usually comes out.

I'm going to crack open a bottle champagne when this assclown finally kicks off.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:32 | 3071678 helping_friendl...
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Bloomberg's clone is already ten years old. He should be able to survive until his clone takes over.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:21 | 3071611 Say What Again
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I would vote for a ban on any "concealed" order within a 50 mile radius of any exchange computer.  The use of "Hide 'n Slide" orders should lead to a mandatory 5 year sentence for the owners of the computer that originated the order.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:23 | 3071620 kralizec
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If they do not take them out of the hands of government officials as well then OMDB!

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:26 | 3071634 Winston Churchill
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I am going out to buy an AK47 this afternoon,if I can find one with a cupholder big

enough for my 44oz soda.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 15:17 | 3071813 Colonel
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+1

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 16:00 | 3072236 darteaus
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I just fired my new five-seven this w/e.  Low recoil, loud noise, nine out of ten in 10X from 7 yards.  Much more controllable and accurate than my sub-compact XD 9mm.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:29 | 3071640 ebworthen
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How about a ban on stupid and arrogant politicians who think that laws control the evil and insane amongst us?

How about a ban on crazy people?  Aren't there laws against hate crimes and mass murder?  How come those laws didn't stop this crazy kid from killing?

How safe will we be when the only ones with guns will be SWAT teams that are 15 minutes away and will arrive after the fact or the wicked and insane who care not what the law says?

"No 22 oz. sodas or assault weapons" will not stop people from buying two 12 oz. sodas or assault weapons on the black market, but will give people a false sense of security and fucknuts like Bloomberg more power and money.

Mon, 12/17/2012 - 14:27 | 3071642 onlooker
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I am surprised to learn there is an assault weapons problem in NY City. I thought they had tough gun laws. In that he runs NY City maybe he can pass some laws that will control guns there and the Nation can follow with similar laws. I missed his suggested laws about mental problems and anti-depression drugs that seem to cause a lot of violent death is the USA. Maybe associated with the Friday crazed mass murder. The Heart posted a site yesterday that is a real eye opener about depression drugs and many, many violent deaths.

 

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