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155,000 Jobs Added in December, Unemployment Rate 7.8%

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A surprisingly uneventful report, as BLS reports that 155,000 Jobs were added in December, right on top of the 156,000 expected, and in line with the number needed to keep up with the growth in the population, or at least the Old Normal growth. The unemployment rate was 7.8%, vs the 7.7% expected: who else is surprised that the rate is now rising with Obama reelected and when a lower unemployment rate means an earlier end to QE4EVA? The November unemployment rate was revised from 7.7% to 7.8%, just so headlines can proclaim the rate was unchanged, even though it was fractions away from a 7.9% print, compared to November initial 7.7%. According to the Household survey a materially less, or 28,000 jobs were added even as the number of unemployed rose by 164K. Average hourly earnings for all employees rose 0.3% in December from November, compared to the 0.2% expected. The confusion continues as the BLS reports retail jobs were mysteriously down by 19,000 even as every retailer announced it was hiring the kitchen sink, while manufacturing jobs supposedly rose by 25,000 while the ADP report reported 6 months of reductions in a row. Construction jobs increased by 30,000. The Underemployment rate, U-6, remains steady at 14.5%. ADP, which will certainly be revised lower now, remains a farce.

The labor force participation rate: 63.6%, same as November:

A job breakdown from the report:

Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 155,000 in December. In 2012, employment growth averaged 153,000 per month, the same as the average monthly gain for 2011. In December, employment increased in health care, food services and drinking places, construction, and manufacturing.

Health care employment continued to expand in December (+45,000). Job gains occurred in ambulatory health care services (+23,000), in hospitals (+12,000), and in nursing and residential care facilities (+10,000). In 2012, health care employment rose by 338,000.

In December, employment in food services and drinking places rose by 38,000. In 2012, the industry added an average of 24,000 jobs a month, essentially the same as in 2011.

Construction added 30,000 jobs in December, led by employment increases in construction of buildings (+13,000) and in residential
specialty trade contractors (+12,000).

In December, manufacturing employment rose by 25,000, with small gains in a number of component industries. In 2012, factory employment increased by 180,000; most of the growth occurred during the first quarter.

Employment in retail trade changed little in December, after increasing by 143,000 over the prior 3 months. Within the industry, employment in clothing and accessories stores fell by 19,000, following gains that totaled 55,000 over the prior 3 months. Elsewhere in retail trade, employment in automobile dealers and in food and beverage stores continued to trend up in December.

Employment in other major industries, including mining and logging, transportation and warehousing, financial activities, professional and businesses services, and government, showed little change over the month.

In December, the average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls edged up by 0.1 hour to 34.5 hours. The manufacturing workweek edged up by 0.1 hour to 40.7 hours, and factory overtime was unchanged at 3.3 hours. The average workweek for production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls edged up by 0.1 hour to 33.8 hours.


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Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:34 | 3121586 LoneStarHog
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Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:35 | 3121587 Shocker
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Even though its reported things are getting better, we still have a long ways to go
Check the layoff/closing list

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:35 | 3121590 N. B. Forrest
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Obama has been re-elected, so I guess they can start slowly moving that unemployment rate back up to where it really is.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:38 | 3121605 MFLTucson
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Going to take a while to get to 22%.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:44 | 3121632 IvyMike
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Almost there!

"I favor full unemployment." ~Bob Black, The Abolition of Work

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:51 | 3121655 rsnoble
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Good website. I went that route years ago.

I like listening to all my pro-union friends "if this shop closes ill lose everything, my house, wife will probably divorce me and take the kids etc etc etc".

Let me ask that the type of security a union job offers? LOL. No one is safe.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:05 | 3121676 AlaricBalth
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Two questions.
1) How does an anarcho-primitivist resolve the paradox of using the Internet to spread his message?
2) How is Ted Kaczynski doing?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:09 | 3121685 IvyMike
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Are you against unjustly convicted political prisoners using the prison's facilities, City-Statism (Civilization) lover?

And, according to the University of Michigan philosophy department, Ted Kaczynski is a "potentially a kind of savior."

The Unabomber's Pen Pal | May 20, 2012
The Chronicle of Higher Education

How's them apples, ya damn City-Statist!?!?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:40 | 3121803 AlaricBalth
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Argumentum ad hominem.
I expected a more cogent rebuttal.
All the best.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 13:22 | 3122578 IvyMike
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"How's Ted K." is an attempt to smear. Pot, Kettle, Black. All the best to you too, ever so sincerely.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:41 | 3121807 sessinpo
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And you still haven't answered the questions posed to you.


I am not for or against you. I encourage debate. You were asked two specific questions and you DODGED them by responding with questions meant to attack the character of the repondent. That doesn't speak very well of you.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 11:11 | 3121961 Ralph Spoilsport
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(Poison)IvyMike isn't here for debate. He's just a troll and maybe a trollbot since it seems pretty stupid.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 13:23 | 3122589 IvyMike
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Argumentum ad hominem. Do you think your buddy will point that out? No? Why not? He's not that honest? LOLbertarians never are.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 13:22 | 3122584 IvyMike
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Dodging my answer? Oh dear, that doesn't speak well of you.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:50 | 3121652 t0mmyBerg
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Awesome.  Laughed at that.  You have to hand it to Barry though.  He picked a truly goldilocks number today right?  Like the immediately preceding post intimated, anything like the nasty ADP number over 200,000 would unravel the carefully controlled script and force the US out of its cozy but shrinking corner.  And of course anything lower would smack of incompetence for the central planners.  I was on the floor then and I remember limit down 30 year bond.  Today it would more or less immediately cause debt servic eto surpass 10% of revenue on its way to Japan like proportions.  Then the equities would bounce off that triple top we have here and if you believe the fed, main street would just pack up and crawl into their hidey hole.  Aint reflexivity a bitch?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:23 | 3121742 Yes_Questions
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NOPE, Just a couple of clicks away:


Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:04 | 3121678 Snakeeyes
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Employment to population fell to 58.6%. That's a heap of people to drag along on their backs.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:54 | 3121665 Snakeeyes
Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:00 | 3121675 ejmoosa
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53,000 fewer jobs added in the 4th quarter of 2012 versus 2011.

The rate of year over year job growth fell from 1.41% at the end of 2011 to 1.40% at the end of 2012.

December 2011 we added 223k in jobs. 

December 2012 155k.


This was as good as it gets.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:09 | 3121689 Sudden Debt
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Today Mercedes anounced that it had sold more cars in America than it did in Germany.

where does this add up?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:12 | 3121698 Boilermaker
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They are producing cars here now, also.  They aren't all imported by any means.  Same with VW.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:35 | 3121783 otto skorzeny
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saw an empty car lot by a closed business that is full of hundreds of new Chryslers/Dodges that the dealer does not have room for on his own overdstuffed lot-he must be renting the spaces.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:26 | 3121758 negative rates
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It adds, and ends up as excess heat, transfered to the working underdesigned parts, all in an effort to keep the people working. It's called the partnership, you pay to buy, and continue to pay to maintain. All to keep the people working, and to pay the politicians at the pulpit. 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 11:09 | 3121947 HangSorosHigh
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1) Population and per-capita GDP are a lot higher in the US than in Germany.

2) Polarisation of income - instead of three people who can afford a Lincoln, we now have one person who can afford a solid gold, diamond-encrusted SLS AMG and two people who are unemployed because their jobs got replaced with computers.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:01 | 3123106 EscapingProgress
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The unemployment rate is not 7.8%. The US government's officially published headline unemployment percentage is 7.8%.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:35 | 3121588 Boilermaker
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So...more QE...right?

Futures go up...I love this shit.  I really do.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:39 | 3121615 Karlus
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Easy money, fade that blip

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:13 | 3121702 SheepDog-One
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Just as Goldulocks-ish as it coulda possibly been!

Anyone actually BELIEVE any of this utter bullshit?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:41 | 3121787 ZeroAvatar
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Goldi locks in the 3 bears........but they'll get out, eventually.


Then Goldi will have a run at $2,500.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:35 | 3121591 rguptatx
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Where is the participation rate, U6, U7?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:41 | 3121620 lolmao500
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It doesn't exist in the BLS world.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:35 | 3121592 Dr. Engali
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No worries Ben...keep printing the BLS will give you all the bullshit cover you need.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:35 | 3121593 achmachat
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155,000 jobs added.

these include the 155,000 who were temporarily hired to come up with this report. 


Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:35 | 3121594 cossack55
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Mark "Prick Face" Zandi for president 2016!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:36 | 3121595 Cursive
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Can we get a Biden quote on this?  Where are the 500,000+ he promised us?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:14 | 3121705 SheepDog-One
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Biden is busy writing up the new gun ban and NDAA 'prefect citizen guidelines' legislation right now. BTW thats not a joke its true.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:33 | 3121778 otto skorzeny
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he can write? that's pretty impressive for an Irishman

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:49 | 3121842 sessinpo
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I am so glad I bought the guns I wanted and stocked up on ammo years ago.


Now I have people, that I advised to do the same coming to me. Sigh.


I'm also glad a have a portion of my assets in PMs. I know I have bashed PM bugs, but as I've stated, I do believe it is prudent ot have a portion of your assets in PMs if the Dollar breifly goes insolvent.


Is it gratifying to have people with a Masters or Doctorate degree come to me for advise (only having a partial college degree). Not really - they are still lost. They have NO critical thinking skills.

In other words - they would do as I tell them. Pretty pathetic. I don't want to be their government and they are too pathetic to realize that they are wanting me to be their next master.  But I have bad news for them, one woman is a hand full for me and I don't have that much time for them.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:36 | 3121598 BeetleBailey
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Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:38 | 3121599 MFLTucson
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Too bad no one believes any of these reports. We have been lied to so long this has become more of a comedy act than anything. And, oh by the way, after the holidays, all those folks working in retail will be out of work.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:36 | 3121600 AU5K
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Nothing to see here.  Please move along.  Continue to press "buy".  Thank you.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:29 | 3121768 Yes_Questions
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Welcome to COSTCO, I love you.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:36 | 3121601 slaughterer
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Goalseeked NFP: not too much (for QE off), not too little (for anti-O discontent).  

Big question is if it will stop the pukefest in PMs currently filling the CFTC vomitorium.  

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:38 | 3121612 Cursive
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Thank you.  I was just asking this question below.  So it is goldilocks again....

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:39 | 3121613 fonzannoon
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How many jobs were added last Dec? I thought we were in the mid 200's. This number seems shitty. How many of these jobs were seasonal?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:08 | 3121687 ejmoosa
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223,000 were added last December.  Not one reporter mentioned it that I saw.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:11 | 3121697 fonzannoon
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Thanks for the info. Funny how that works.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:42 | 3121628 Dr. Engali
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Let them puke the PMs up...I will be glad to buy their panic. Maybe a good purging is what the PMs need. If anybody believe Ben will ever stop printing they are an idiot.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:46 | 3121644 fonzannoon
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Yup. This is a battle of attrition. That's all it is.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:19 | 3121722 youngman
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Strange trade the last two days in PM´s.....but yet treasury rates going up.....oil up too.....PM´s are an outlier for some take.....the big boys are taking it down to buy it.....they see the writing on the wall......the wall is closer right now...I think this year...if we have two weeks of bond dumpimg....its a whole new ballgame

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:13 | 3121704 Proofreder
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Au & Ag simply moving from weak hands to strong hands.  

BTFD 'cause it won't last long; below 1630 for less than two hours early today.

Wonder how the miners will do at the open - please panic so I's kin git s'more.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:39 | 3121602 Sandy15
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after the election companies were laying off employees big time, hurricane Sandy caused massive job losses, these numbers are crap, crap, crap..........


The Bernack is having his minions sell the dollar to force the market up again...... print, wash, repeat, print, wash, repeat

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:37 | 3121603 Cursive
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Is this "good" enough to be bearish because it means no more QE?  Or is it "bullish" because it sucks?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:38 | 3121609 slaughterer
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Neither, that is the point: let the algos play with indecision.   

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:37 | 3121604 ziggy59
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More Goldilocks Ben BS...AKA...Controlled Financial Demolition

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:38 | 3121606 icanhasbailout
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Either these numbers have to be accompanied by the latest "rolled off the rolls and out of the workforce" number or we need a new metric entirely.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:38 | 3121610 Cdad
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Prepare for equity market talking heads over at the BlowHorn to now start paying attention to the labor participation rate as a great thing...after ignoring its collapse for the last four years.  Cue Steve Liesman.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:39 | 3121614 Dr. Engali
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Just the right number to keep Ben printing while at the same time " showing some progress". I love the smell of bullshit propoganda in the morning.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:50 | 3121653 Notarocketscientist
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But I remember yesterday's headline said The Printing Might Stop

Was that bullshit?   Were they lying - to inspire CONfidence that next year we would be once again 'LIVING LARGE'?

Say it isn't so.  I want to Live Large

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:39 | 3121616 MFLTucson
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The labor force participation rate: 63.6%, same as November:


Read up before commenting on this bullshit report!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:40 | 3121619 Shizzmoney
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This is actually a miss to me, considering the fact that I expected a much higher number due to the retail sector ramp-up for the holidays (which then get corrected in April/May when they let those people go....or they quit because retail jobs SUCK).

Sustained Stagflation is the New Normal, and breaking even is the new "wealth". 

Thanks, ZIRP!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:43 | 3121629 El Hosel
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 How about  overlay a chart of Stock Market participation / Volume decline.  Its the new..... "I Give UP" Normal!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:55 | 3121666 adr
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Seasonal hires for retail are added in November. The average seasonal worker gets 14 hours per week at $9.25 per hour. There are a lot of stock room people who are hired the last week of december for inventory cleanup, but these are all temp agency hires for one to two weeks max.

All seasonal hires are dropped the first week of January and regular full and part time workers see their hours cut in half. The store manager and assistant manager will still get 35-40 hours, the other workers will be lucky to see 20.

Only the BLS would count a part time two week temp job as a job. In fact only full time jobs should count as jobs created.

One other thing is that I am surprised we still have over 400k people per week filing for unemployment, the part time hires aren't eligible. So that means we still have a mass hemmorage of full time higher wage jobs four years after the onset of "The Crisis".

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:07 | 3121684 Shizzmoney
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Excellent points here.  Although a few addendums:

The store manager and assistant manager will still get 35-40 hours, the other workers will be lucky to see 20.

In every store I worked in, the managers actually had to work MORE hours after the holidays, mostly due to after-hours inventory rechecks (I always volunteered to help when I worked retail, mostly for the OT).  For the grunts, 100% agree; I just had a buddy lose a job at a retail store (only to get another one) right after XMAS ended.

Only the BLS would count a part time two week temp job as a job.

ADP is WORSE at this, hence why their numbers are always inflated and off.  Someone who works 3 temp gigs in a month is counted like 3 jobs, it seems.

So that means we still have a mass hemmorage of full time higher wage jobs four years after the onset of "The Crisis".

Well, IMO, this has been happening for 30 years; it's just "louder" and more obvious now, and is reflected in personal spending, which in turn, will effect the economy (especially the retail sector).

Well, it SHOULD.  But to the govenrment, as long as CEOs keep buying yachts and more houses, shits all good to them.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:10 | 3121692 Eally Ucked
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5 years*52weeks*400k initial claims=104 million initial claims, ha,ha, ha

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:41 | 3121621 realtick
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The Chicago Boys Are Done Manipulating The UNRATE

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:43 | 3121622 fonzannoon
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everyone on TV talking about the big bond selloff. Funny.

"I think the way to hedge against it is to....(pensive thought silence)......(epiphany) some more equities.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:41 | 3121623 gimli
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When in doubt buy more gold and silver ..... currently on sale during New Year's week

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:56 | 3121667 scatterbrains
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Can yall niggas wait until mid 1350ies before we start jumping into gold please? I've been waiting since back in may for a lower channel line touch and go..

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:42 | 3121625 Cloud9.5
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January 21, 1930

“Definite signs that business and industry have turned the corner from the temporary period of emergency that followed deflation of the speculative market were seen today by President Hoover. The President said the reports to the Cabinet showed  the tide of employment had changed in the right direction.”

– News dispatch from Washington.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:43 | 3121630 Sudden Debt
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anybody remember the crisis of 2008 till 2009?

man that was really something...

I know it's been a long time ago, but in that era, people really had it hard you know!

I know, I know... history... I'm old because I keep talking about shit that happened so long ago... but still!

I still believe that one day, we'll have a great movie about that period in time!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:11 | 3121695 Water Is Wet
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That was the most brutal few days of my life, but then Bernank started printing money so the sun could come out again and the flowers could bloom.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:43 | 3121631 lolmao500
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And then how many entered the workforce... 250 000?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:44 | 3121638 Sudden Debt
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250K? that's a lot of school dropouts!


Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:56 | 3121886 pinqy
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The Labor Force increased by 192,000

+28,000 Employed, +164,000 Unemployed.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:46 | 3121635 UGrev
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PLEASE stop with the 7.8 bullshit unless it's followed with /sarc.   and then I read the rest of the article. ... carry on.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:44 | 3121637 djsmps
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At least David Sokol is innocent.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:45 | 3121640 John McCloy
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Come on Tyler..hit us with the B/D model Unicorn jobs figure.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:49 | 3121643 sablya
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The market proves it is STILL only about QE.  With the unemployment rate disappointment, the market rises, silver slightly recovers from its beat down.  Dollar is up, interest rates are up, stocks are up, PMs are down.  So, people are moving out of bonds and metals into stocks.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:47 | 3121645 slaughterer
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If the lower limit of the upward channel on gold breaks, expect $1500.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:51 | 3121654 Sudden Debt
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I not only junked you, but I would also defriend you from facebook if I where on it!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:57 | 3121669 fonzannoon
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I am going the other way. I green arrowed him. But 1,500 is not enough. Doc Engali is right. Let's knock this bitch down to 1k. I want a discount. I fugure that gets the 10yr over 3.5% too and the dual panic would be really fun to watch.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:58 | 3121672 Dr. Engali
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I agree...knock gold down and scare out the weak hands. Then we can start the next leg up.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:04 | 3121677 fonzannoon
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I have bad news to report to everyone. I just got to the coin shop and the head of the chinese and russian central banks and the entire population of India is in front of me on line trying to sell their physical holdings. Dammit!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:31 | 3121772 negative rates
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Real or fake physical? Don't fake it!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:04 | 3121681 Sudden Debt
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Let's make a deal :)

We let it rise to 1900$ so I can sell my calls with a huge profit and than we sink it to 500$ so we can all buy it with a discount.

But me first :)

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:06 | 3121683 fonzannoon
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well considering my lack over control over the situation, I will just continue to sit here and make stupid comments and waste away and if it works out for you I will be happy for you.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:46 | 3121646 adr
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Remember, just like spending $550 billion instead of $560 billion, when you spent $500 billion last year, is a $10 billion spending cut not a $50 billion increase.

With seasonal adjustments, if 300k people lost jobs in the month last year, but this year only 200k people lost jobs, that is a 100k job gain.

When they changed the BLS counting method, it immediatly added 100k bullshit jobs to the count every month. Q3 GDP was actually negative, just like Q4 employment. But you won't get the truth from the government or the complicit media.

How can I be sure I am right and they are wrong? I work and sell to the real economy and get true hard sales numbers every month. I don't get the luxury of seasonaly adjusting my sales to look better. For me to do that would be illegal.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:48 | 3121648 booboo
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I don't think this jalopy will make it to the cliff. I see a rusted and burned out heap of rat infested what was a 69 Chevelle muscle car sitting on blocks 12 feet from the abyss with the skeletal remains of the driver gripping the steering wheel and a moth eaten Obama/Biden hat perched on his skull

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:49 | 3121649 drivenZ
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"who else is surprised that the rate is now rising with Obama reelected? The November unemployment rate was revised from 7.7% to 7.8%, just so headlines can proclaim the rate was unchanged."


wow, you guys sound desperate. 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:50 | 3121651 Tsar Pointless
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Noisy in here today.

Here are the unadjusted figures:

U3: 7.6% (up from 7.4%)
Emp-Pop Ratio: 58.5% (down from 58.8%)
Employed: -500k
Unemployed: +440k
U6: 14.4% (up from13.9%)

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:52 | 3121659 Dumpster Fire
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So how many years has it been now since the BLS revised their numbers upward?


Vegas bitches.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:52 | 3121662 the not so migh...
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It like having a recovery and now one showed up.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:54 | 3121663 Barry McBear
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ADP a farce?  But Liesman actually said that he was impressed the way ADP "guided the market" to the correct expectation of nonfarm.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:56 | 3121670 Dr. Engali
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In the age of made up numbers  Liarman is once again proving how big of a tool he actually is.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:32 | 3121775 negative rates
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Or not, NOT!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:56 | 3121668 Shizzmoney
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Charting the state of the U.S. economy: EPI's Top Charts of 2012

In November 2012, the labor market had 3.7 million fewer jobs than when the recession began in December 2007. And, because the potential labor force grows as the population expands, the economy should have added 5.2 million jobs since December 2007 just to keep the unemployment rate stable. Counting jobs lost and jobs that should have been added, the U.S. economy has a jobs shortfall of 8.9 million.

How is a labor shortfall of 8.9 million a "recovery"? 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 09:59 | 3121671 virgilcaine
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Bullish for the Hawaiian tourist industry.

During the last Depression Herbert Hoover spent most of his time fly fishing, Body surfing is how the current chooses to pass the time.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:04 | 3121679 SheepDog-One
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No one cares about jobs anymore, where's da FREE MONEY at??

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:22 | 3121740 Shizzmoney
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It was used to buy bad MBS from JPMorgan and Bank of America

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:04 | 3121680 caimen garou
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bullish for the band-aid factory, need to rename this country to the United States of bullshit, patches, and temporary fixes!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:05 | 3121682 All Out Of Bubblegum
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Utter horse hockey. The true rate is upwards of 20%. Anyone that still takes any Federal agency seriously needs to ungullify their sucker instinct.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:47 | 3121837 pinqy
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Have you done the math? To get his 22.9%, Williams is adding about 17 MILLION more people on top of the U6. And yet there are only about 4 million people who say they want to work who are not already included in the U6 (because of unavailability or haven't looked for work in over a year).  So where's he getting 17 million from?

And keep in mind that the U6 includes about 8 million people who are working, but not as many hours as they want.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:10 | 3121691 agNau
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Is "employment in drinking places" in the BLSBS world, the same as patronage in drinking places? If so then we have a glimpse of future trends. "I swipe my EBT, swipe my EBT!"

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:17 | 3121714 Getting Old Sucks
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They started counting Honor Bars where patrons pouring their own drink and ringing it up themselves are considered employees.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:12 | 3121700 ekm
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Is there still a payroll report?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:15 | 3121709 Stormtower
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And the next wave of layoffs will be due to Obummercare...........

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:17 | 3121712 Cult of Criminality
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Fuck Biden

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:19 | 3121719 Iam Yue2
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"President Barack Obama, in his State of the Union address in late January (2010), set out a goal of doubling exports over the next five years, which he said would create 2 million jobs.

A strong dollar would wreck that plan. Every 1 percent increase in the dollar, averaged against other major currencies, knocks U.S. exports down by about $20 billion annually and destroys some 150,000 jobs, according to the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a Washington-based nonpartisan research group."  

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:19 | 3121725 Unstable Condition
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The controlled decline continues...

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:22 | 3121738 Cult of Criminality
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Pipe,ball bearings,compressed air,or other means of fuel is infinite.

No worries,Even IF they take guns they are easy to make and there will be millions of unknowns.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:24 | 3121745 Cult of Criminality
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Heat,closed containers of (your pick)..physics

aint it great.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:25 | 3121751 AU79 PB82
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Be bold,
Buy gold.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:26 | 3121760 Shizzmoney
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Employment change over 2012, by education: HS or less -192k; Some college +563k; College+: +1.68million

Translation: if you weren't willing to take on a loan you'll never be able pay back, you can't get a job.

So, at this break neck pace of job growth, we will reach pre-Great Recession job levels sometime in next 100 years.

I dunno about you guys, but I'm totally confident to go buy some stocks!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:32 | 3121776 jplotinus
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BLS report 1/4/13:


Nothing to boast about; nothing to carp about; nothing to move the market about; nothing...

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:45 | 3121822 nantucket
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how are govt tax receipts doing.  that's probably more important now.  who cares if everyone has a job if it's part time and wages suck.  govt tax receipts combine the number of people working with the amount they are making....way more important when the game changes as it has.


i'd say an economy with 8% unemployment, no part time workers, and high salaries is a better economy than 4% unemployment when a ton of people are part time with low salaries.


right now we have the worst of both words....high unemployment with a high mix of part time jobs with low wages and low wage growth.


statist nirvana.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 10:45 | 3121825 orangegeek
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The biggest joke was watching markets rockets on Barry's tax increases and hold on government over-spending.


It's the bizzaro stock market folks.  What's that you say?  Ask Jerry Seinfeld.

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