Guest Post: Anti-Gun Newspaper Hires Armed Guards – Reveals Its Own Hypocrisy

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Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,

Sometimes I just have to smile when faced with anti-gun propagandists, regardless of the vicious statements they make, because I know from years of past experience in this debate that because of their deep rooted hypocrisy, they WILL inevitably make my pro-gun case for me.  All I have to do is sit back and wait for them to contradict themselves...

After the Sandy Hook attacks, the NRA responded with the suggested measure of establishing armed security guards at public schools in order to ensure there is a defensive presence in place to meet any violent threat.  I personally agree with the idea, though I believe it doesn’t go far enough.  Frankly, allowing teachers to legally carry on school grounds would be a much more effective deterrent, promoting the ability of average citizens to protect themselves rather than constantly relying on some uniformed official. 

The Obama Administration, of course, responded negatively to the NRA’s position and has yet to even address or acknowledge the idea of armed teachers.  Obama shrugged off the NRA, claiming he was “skeptical” of the armed security concept, all while sending his own children to a private school protected by at least 11 armed sentries not counting Secret Service agents:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/23/School-Obama-s-Daughters-Attend-Has-11-Armed-Guards-Not-Counting-Secret-Service

So, Obama is “skeptical” of an armed presence at your children’s school, but not his own children’s school?  Yes, it’s incredibly hypocritical.  My question to the president would be:  If armed guards don’t make a difference, why have your children surrounded by them?  I would be interested to hear his response.  Perhaps he believes his children are more important than our own…

Then there’s that wretched gun grabbing swamp hag, Senator Diane Feinstein; a true anti-gun zealot who has openly admitted that if she thought she could get away with it, she would pursue the complete disarmament of the entire U.S. citizenry.  The same zealot who after the Oklahoma City bombing had this to say at a senate hearing:

“I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that’s what I did. I was trained in firearms. I walked to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon and I made the determination if somebody was going to try and take me out, I was going to take them with me…”

Apparently she saw the need for firearms in the defense of her own life, but not the need for the average citizen to have the same opportunity.

And what about Senator Chuck Schumer, who called for the president to use the excuse of “national security” and terrorism to force through restrictive gun legislation?  The man who also voted against a bill which would have prevented outside entities like the UN from asserting gun control treaties that affect the American public?  Well, Chuck has his own concealed carry permit in the state of New York, of all places, and still continues his antigun rhetoric.  Again, do they see themselves as part of a higher and more valuable class of people?  How do they explain these contradictions in their position?

What about media gigolo Michael Moore and his theater of the absurd?  Playing the role of gun fan while at the same time incessantly promoting gun control rhetoric using skewed information and disingenuous talking points?  The same man who suggested that the sound of a racking shotgun on tape is as effective as having the real thing uses bodyguards armed with THE REAL THING, one of whom was recently arrested for carrying an unlicensed weapon into JFK Airport:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144921,00.html#ixzz2FnQC65J3

But anti-gun propagandists with armed bodyguards are nothing new.  In fact, anti-gun mayor Michael Bloomberg travels with a cadre of five to six bodyguards, all packing heat.  Why do these people who say they despise guns and gun ownership continue surrounding themselves with the same “devilish weaponry”?  It’s simple; because the mere reality of gun ownership deters criminal attack.  If it didn’t, they wouldn’t rely on firearms at all. 

Apparently, this same fact has suddenly dawned on The Journal News in New York, which has received a flurry of attention (mostly negative) for their insane idea of publishing maps of New York suburban neighborhoods “outing” the names and addresses of all those who have concealed carry permits.  The Journal News has yet to officially address why they chose to do this, but the paper is, needless to say, anti-gun; publishing articles that call for ALL firearms owners, not just those with CCW, to be cataloged and mapped:

http://www.lohud.com/article/20121223/NEWS04/312230056/The-gun-owner-next-door-What-you-don-t-know-about-the-weapons-in-your-neighborhood

http://www.lohud.com/article/20130104/OPINION/301040031/Editorial-Push-more-permit-data-free-gun-locks-too

Their rationale?  All gun owners should be mapped so that anti-gun citizens can “know who their neighbors are” and the “possible danger that surrounds them”.  The assertion that the newspaper is making is that all gun owners should be treated as potential threats, like convicted pedophiles.  Their philosophy is to consider us guilty until proven innocent.

It is an interesting and manipulative strategy.  The intent is first to promote a national firearms database, which just happens to be a primary part of Diane Feinstein’s coming gun control legislation, as well as to cultivate a kind of “culture of shame” surrounding gun ownership.  The Journal News motto should be:  “Own a gun?  We’ll make sure everyone knows what a monster you are…” 

The paper follows with the argument that people should be allowed to know who in a neighborhood is armed so that they can make an “informed decision” on whether or not they want to live there.  As I have stated in recent articles on the gun control issue, the anti-gun fears of terrified yuppies are not our concern.  They should be required to control THEIR fear, not allowed to control OUR guns.  Their fears do not and should not override our constitutional liberties, and frankly, I couldn’t care less if they want to live in a gun free neighborhood or not. 

Using the gun map philosophy, a universe of invasive collectivist enforcement becomes available.  Why not, for instance, create a map of every person who has been diagnosed by a psychiatrist and given psychotropic medications?  Since almost every person who has committed atrocities like Sandy Hook in the course of the past two decades was under the influence of psychotropics at the time it only follows that everyone on these drugs is a potential threat according to the logic of The Journal News.  I suspect though that at least half of their staff, just like half of New York, is highly medicated, and probably would not endorse such a measure. 

County Officials in New York State are now revolting against the gun map initiatives of The Journal News, denying them further information on permit holders in other counties in order to avoid possible danger to those citizens.  Reuters has responded to this unexpectedly reasonable response by, surprise, attacking it:

http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/01/02/lets-not-go-crazy-over-publishing-gun-lists/

State officials denying The Journal access to permit holder names and addresses is so far one of the only sane things being done in the state of New York when it comes to the gun debate, but according to the Reuters opinion piece, such an action is “crazy”.  Is permit holder information a matter of public record?  Yes, for now.  Does that mean that The Journal News should be allowed to exploit that information to satiate their own personal zealotry while making it easy for criminals to devise threat assessments?  The State of New York doesn’t seem to think so.  Honestly, if I was a non-gun owning citizen in New York, I would be much more upset at The Journal than if I was on their list.  Essentially, the newspaper has just advertised who on their map is a potentially easy target… 

Finally, displaying their own grand level of hypocrisy, The Journal News has hired ARMED security guards to protect them from the possible wrath of the angry populace they put at risk:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/02/us-usa-guns-newspaper-idUSBRE9010R820130102

Is the staff of the newspaper in danger?  Well…yes, of course they are!  That kind of blind idiocy and hubris tends to attract wild fury in response.  However, the point remains; when faced with conceivable violence, they turned to the practical solution of armed intervention, just like ANYONE with any sense would.  They admonish us for wanting the right to defend ourselves in the most efficient way available (private firearms ownership) while at the same time surrounding themselves with a shield of guns. 

The gun grabber personality is interminably flawed, but it could be summarized thus:

They believe the whole of society should cater to their personal concerns.  That we should give up our rights just to make them feel safer.  And, that they are somehow a step above the rest of us, and do not need to practice what they preach.  My question is, why should we go out of our way to please such weaklings and frauds?  I have yet to hear a good reason...

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Fri, 01/04/2013 - 13:53 | 3122733 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The media is where sensationalists go to die.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 13:54 | 3122739 israhole
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Lots of Jews mentioned in this article, by and large the Zionist Jews are the ones pushing for gun control, just like they did in the Bolshevik and very Jewish revolution in Russia.  Not long after the goyim got slaughtered to the tune of 40-60 million.  Getting the picture yet?  Don't expect them to teach you of their crimes in school, you'll have to get off your fat ass.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:23 | 3122929 Skip
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Published in the New York based Jewish journal THE FORWARD:

Sunday, December 16, 2012
Jewish Lawmakers Lead Push for Gun Control
After Newtown, Feinstein, Bloomberg and Schumer Want Action

Newtown Rabbi Decries 'Culture of Violence'

 

http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/6456_72.htm

by Abe Foxman and the organization’s Connecticut regional director

There is nothing that can justify the killing of innocents, especially young children. We hope that this was not an act motivated by hatred, as so many other school shootings have been in the past...

ADL has long been an advocate for strong, effective and sensible gun control legislation. Since 1967, ADL has favored expanded federal and state regulation of the sale and transfer of firearms and other dangerous weapons. Unfortunately, all too many times we have sadly witnessed the tragic dangers guns present. Across the country in schools, businesses and houses of worship, individuals have used guns to terrorize communities and local institutions. We firmly believe that one way to limit the power of extremists and reduce violence in our communities is to enact tough, effective gun control legislation.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:33 | 3123301 The Heart
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"There is nothing that can justify the killing of innocents, especially young children."

And Palestinian children in Gaza, Iraqi women and children, Afghanistan and Pakistani children all do not count because everyone knows, these goyim are not considered people or human by the zionist slaves. The racist hatred of the elitist scark eating zionist scumbags is allowed and condoned by the stupidity of a nation on SSRI drugs and TV mindcontrol. Everything a zionist hater says is more than often the polar oppisite of what is actually true.

Racisit zionist supremacy all under the kind and caring ownership/slavery of the rottenchilds empire of dust and the money god are this century's nazi germany. All globalist zionist slave pig media whores are hard at it for the world domination agenda. Zig Hiel!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 16:23 | 3123580 FeralSerf
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Is America to become one of Israel's occupied territories where only the Jews possess firrearms?

http://www.fmep.org/reports/archive/vol.-4/no.-3/israels-policy-of-armin...

 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 13:55 | 3122751 tooriskytoinvest
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NH State Rep. Cynthia Chase OPPOSES a free society: “One way is to pass measures that will restrict the ‘freedoms’…”

http://investmentwatchblog.com/nh-state-rep-cynthia-chase-opposes-a-free-society-one-way-is-to-pass-measures-that-will-restrict-the-freedoms/

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:00 | 3123103 aerojet
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It's disgusting that anyone from New Hampshire of all places would even act like that. 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 16:41 | 3123651 DadzMad
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So much for that "Live Free or Die" on their license plates

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 20:36 | 3124287 Bad Attitude
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Maybe NH should change their license plate slogan to "Better Red Than Dead."

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 16:41 | 3123652 DadzMad
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So much for that "Live Free or Die" on their license plates

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 16:39 | 3122767 The Joker
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Instead of arming teachers and posting guards at schools and public arenas, or demanding gun control, how about we just stop the false flags? 

Problem solved.

You listening NSA?  Pass it up the chain please, it's getting really stupid now. 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:00 | 3122772 Grinder74
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"They believe the whole of society should cater to their personal concerns.  That we should give up our rights just to make them feel safer.  And, that they are somehow a step above the rest of us, and do not need to practice what they preach.  My question is, why should we go out of our way to please such weaklings and frauds?  I have yet to hear a good reason..."

This can also sum up the ghey agenda -- attempting to remake society for a tiny minority.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:00 | 3122773 rwe2late
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If anyone is really concerned about significantly reducing US violence, including with “guns”,

then here is a plan:

a) end the “war on terror”, US support for foreign despotism, global policing by the Pentagon, and the militarized Homeland “internal security“ department.

b) end the Prohibition II aka the “war on drugs”. And dismantle the ancillary massive criminal-gang networking prison industry.

c) end the globalization “free trade” export of wealth and jobs, and set to work rebuilding the US.

Work to restore lost Bill of Rights protections, such as from:

“war on drugs” = loss of search and seizure protections

“war on terror” = loss of habeas corpus, protections against torture, free press and assembly

Instead, many wish to shift attention away from those issues and instead launch a new

divisive and counter-productive “war on guns”. They implicitly support an expansion of the police and surveillance state to administer and enforce this new “war”. What else ought we expect from our present government?

( Proposed legislation mandates confiscation of many different types of guns and requires universal registration and fees for all gun owners with a new ‘background check’ for all who comply with the law.

 

 

 

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons  

Can we expect a secretive new “no-fly” list for gun ownership, expect ‘mental health’ background checks using supposedly no-longer-private medical records, but more predictably expect the use of NSA-FBI reports to target ‘potential’ political trouble-makers and dissidents?)

This new, government-sponsored “war on guns” is a divisive “wedge” issue which only diverts and downplays the more important issues, by putting the cart before the horse, insisting that:

BEFORE reducing government violence, BEFORE reducing crime and its sources, and BEFORE restoring Civil protections and safeguards, more citizens are to be more policed, and made even more defenseless, to whatever degree, by being disarmed.

 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:50 | 3123393 The Heart
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Outstanding!

If only we as a society was smart enough to take up these real answers and actually put words to action.

Thank you for this great contribution to all the rest of the great Light here. It is an honor to be among so many great thinking Hearts, and entertaining at best to witness the real evil of the beast in all its forms and written horsewash that is also frothily regurgitated up upon the pages of ZH. It's simply amazing that these slaves to the money god are so ignorant and evil in these expressions that manifest here. One constantly wonders if stupidity has any relations in the family of insanity, because it sure has a way of finding its freedom on these pages.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:10 | 3122774 Colonel
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"County Officials in New York State are now revolting against the gun map initiatives of The Journal News, denying them further information on permit holders in other counties in order to avoid possible danger to those citizens." 

So people against guns are going to attack gun owners? My God, the stupid it burns. Yes let the leftist idiots publish maps that show where CCW permit holders live, then the criminals will head to those areas where the pickings is easy and CCW permit holders can live in peace in crime free areas.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:00 | 3122778 imapopulistnow
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Common sense would say that there can be an appropriate balance between gun control and the right to bear arms.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:13 | 3122861 bank guy in Brussels
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That is an interesting question

From the point of view of an observer of America

It does seem that many 'gun control' laws are bullsh*t and oppressive and don't work

E.g., re 'assault weapons' ... dammit people have a right to some guns like that, for fun, for target shooting, and ultimately in order to fight the Nazis, i.e., the American government

But historically the one gun control move in US history that seems to gather little complaint, is the 'Class III' restrictions against the full-auto machine guns, in the 1930s ... it does seem that restricting such guns to 'special permit' holders, was somewhat positive ... it seems even Americans don't complain about that restriction

Did things get out of control perhaps with the tommy-gun gangsters in the Al Capone era? That was perhaps the fault of the immensely stupid American Taliban 'prohibition' of alcohol ... an episode Europeans cite, to prove that Americans have always been crazy

Personally, tho, I rather like full-auto weapons, there are a fair amount in Switzerland ... and I have enjoyed shooting one or two, including a Thompson SMG with a big round drum

Ammo goes awfully fast, tho ...

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:02 | 3123110 aerojet
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There is no common sense--that's just a lever to pull on nice people so that you can get your agenda implemented.  We have enough common sense gun laws already.  Enough is enough. 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 17:06 | 3123768 Vooter
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Well, if we have enough common sense gun laws already, why the whining to put armed guards in schools?

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 21:23 | 3126224 SILVERGEDDON
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Not armed guards - eg : targets - in schools - allow concealed weapons permit holders who have passed criminal background checks and have trained in the use of their firearms - to legally carry in schools.

Could be a teacher, the janitor, guy on a lawn mower, the hall monitor.

NO ONE WOULD KNOW WHO WAS PACKING AND WHO WAS UNARMED.

Takes some of the shooting defenseless victims out of the equation, doesn't it ?

Were you born this way, or did you fall on your head at an early age ? 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:05 | 3122800 Uber Vandal
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MTV hit the nail on the head with these commercials a few years back.

But hey, that can't happen here, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYI1PY-b-ro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=lO6yQvODZjI&feature=endscreen

 

 

 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:05 | 3122807 wee-weed up
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Silly people... hypocrisy is sooo pre-2008!

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:08 | 3122827 Skip
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SULZBERGER the publisher of the New York Times has a NYC pistol permit and carries a revolver. Something to keep in mind about all this gun control stuff:

gun control isn't about the guns, it's about control.

They want you disarmed so they can go ahead with their agenda, which doesn't include you and yours being around.

http://www.nrahq.org/

http://gunbanobama.com/
http://www.gundigest.com/article/ObamaExpose/

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:09 | 3122837 exartizo
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Well Said Tyler.

 

Well Said.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:11 | 3122845 Skip
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What do you think they're cooking up---I mean last year the IRS, the Social Security Administration and US Marine Biology and many others bought hundreds of millions of rounds of these hollow-point ammunition, hmmm what do you think? First the drone practice in US last year now the big gun grab push, you know how those Bolsheviks are...

DHS Buys 200,000 More Rounds of Ammunition

Federal government continues to arm itself to the teeth while Obama administration pushes gun control

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 16:22 | 3123572 lakecity55
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If the gubbermint has no compunction against wanton killing via drones, killing some kids in a schoolhouse to further their agenda is not far-fetched.

I suspect they are about to Ramp Up domestic slaughter, so be aware. Any American could be the next victim of o-phone's kill squads.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:14 | 3122872 Seorse Gorog fr...
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just turn the whole fucking country into the good old wild west

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:30 | 3122925 AgAu_man
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Aside from the advertised/alleged 'reason' (pretext!) for restricting gun usage, there is an added benefit (yes, as some have pointed out) of having a comprehensive database:  For Orwellian, Big Brother reasons.

But, what they haven't said, it that something like this was already done in the 1930's in Germany.  There the National Socialist Party bought the latest & greatest of IBM's computers (with punch cards), and made the world's most advanced database of 'select' demographic groups in Europe. IBM avoided US laws by shipping to Switzerland.  In fact, a very serious and meticulously-researched book was written on this topic (heavy reading, enough for 3 PhD's, never made it to the end):

IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation-Expanded Edition by Edwin Black

BTW, I bought this book years ago because (a) IBM interested me, and (b) most of my CHRISTIAN (non-Gypsie, non-Commie, non-Jewish), upper middle-class ancestors were Holocaust victims also.  And, yes, 'Christians' are responsible for more deaths and atrocities than all other cultures and religions combined.  Not something that many Bible Thumpers can handle (especially in the US), but it's true.  And why I'm now an Atheist.  Don't need the bully-threat of 'hell', or the child's bribe of 'heaven' to have a decent, purpose-driven life.  But I digress...

That way, when the time came (WW2 started), the Nazis were able to target all the 'undesirable' elements with pin-point precision.  Yes, they were Gypsies, Communists and Jews at the time -- but the point is:  The Gov can thus 'target' ANY identifiable group it sees as a threat during and after crisis or war.  E.g. The commie Chinese killed all the bald guys with a single braided-tail, as these were the "intellectuals" who could pose a threat to their re-education programs.

Maybe they'll just change the profile of 'threats' (undesirables) on the handgun license databases.  E.g. 90% of ex-military declared "mentally compromised/unfit", due to, er, PTS.  That'll take out most of those who have the skills and means to lead any resistance.  If you recall, the Ruskies did this in the 1960'-80's, by declaring all kinds of intellectuals and dissidents as "mentally insane" and locked them up in psych wards for 'rehab'.

Think it can't/won't happen here, in the Land of the Brave and Home of The Free?  History may not repeat, but it rhymes, as they as.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 16:00 | 3123464 The Heart
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"Maybe they'll just change the profile of 'threats' (undesirables) on the handgun license databases.  E.g. 90% of ex-military declared "mentally compromised/unfit", due to, er, PTS.  That'll take out most of those who have the skills and means to lead any resistance.  If you recall, the Ruskies did this in the 1960'-80's, by declaring all kinds of intellectuals and dissidents as "mentally insane" and locked them up in psych wards for 'rehab'.

Think it can't/won't happen here, in the Land of the Brave and Home of The Free?  History may not repeat, but it rhymes, as they as."

 

Open for forum discussion:

What goes through YOUR mind and heart when you realize this truth?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 16:23 | 3123579 LFMayor
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so label me as such. 

Make me a criminal with a stroke of that mighty legislative pen.  Because I'm here to inform you, those speed limit laws sure have kept me below the posted!

What was it Quantrill did, before he got made into a guerilla?  He was a school teacher. 

Make us all outlaws, and the Whole Crew will Act Up.  Like Quantrill, they might find that they like the taste of it.  They might even discover a previouly unknown Talent in it.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 18:39 | 3124079 AgAu_man
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It VEXES me.  Especially when I see the ever-expanding list of 'attributes' (as they call them) that disqualify you for a Concealed Gun/Weapon License (CGL/CWL).  For example, not that anyone is a fan of having a DUI, but what does that have to do with the right to Bear Arms (have a CWL)?  The cops don't want you to Open Carry, even it IS legal in their state.  It spooks the sheep too much, and may -- get this! -- cause them to cite you for "Disturbing the peace".  I poop you not.

A DUI is how they got our nanny (nailed for 0.09 in a 0.08 limit), who is an active US Army Reservist.  That takes her out of the loop.

Who's next?  Any active guy who has what was called Battle Fatigue, but is now called PTS (Post-Traumatic Stess)? 

Who gave them the frikkin' Battle Fatigue -- let's call it what it IS -- and did they UN-fatigue them when they got home?  Hell, they're lucky to get decent medical attention, much less a job!  Of course, if they teach them Warcraft and only warcraft, how useful are they in the private sector, except for maybe security training?  It's more FUBAR by the day, I say.

 

 

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 01:24 | 3124714 Clovis Man
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While I agree with your post in general, I object to this:

"  And, yes, 'Christians' are responsible for more deaths and atrocities than all other cultures and religions combined."

Um, no, that is not supported by any numbers I've ever seen. The 20th century's slaughter topped almost everything that happened in the preceding centuries and was almost all done or caused by Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, Soviet Russia, and Communist China. While there are or have been Christians in those countries, I don't see how any  reasonable person would claim that Christians were responsible for what they did. And yes I know that Stalin was a seminary student, but in no way did he (or anyone) consider him to be a Christian.

I do not know of any Christian exploits that come close to the numbers attained by Ghenkis Khan or the Hindus killed by the Muslim conquest of India.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:27 | 3122952 zerotohero
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From the Daily Reckoning - says it all:

WHEN THEY COME FOR YOUR GUNS, YOU WILL TURN THEM OVER

“When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands,” is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.

And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. “You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands,” which I often follow with the question, “And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?”

This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.

Nice fantasy. It’s not happening.

If the federal government decides to disarm the public, and when the increasingly-militarized rolls down your street after a not-so-subtle request that you kindly turn over your firearms and ammunition “for the common good,” it will be nothing less than suicide by cop to do anything other than what you are told.

The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.

And, it is not just your hometown cops who are getting new boy-toys. The military itself is buying up weaponry not just for use in the current or next scheduled war, but to deal with the likes of you, citizens who don’t seem to understand that the Bill of Rights has been overruled, and that specifically includes, but is not limited to, the right to protest and engage in civil disobedience.

Also ignored (as if it didn’t even exist) is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which generally bars the military from law enforcement activities within the United States.

According to Public Intelligence:

“…for the last two years, the President’s Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of ‘homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities.’ Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being ‘necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities’ under section 1815 of the FY 2008 NDAA.”

And, they are not just arming cops and weekend warriors for domestic purposes. Active duty Marines are now being trained for law enforcement operations all over the world (of which the US remains a part) specifically to deal with civil uprisings, and the US government knows that civil uprisings are coming to a town near you just as soon as the fantasy of a healing economy is shattered, the US dollar fails, and unemployment goes to 30%+ in real numbers.

And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is the reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state-of-the-art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day — for nothing. You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.

That is your choice… for the moment.

Read more: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over http://dailyreckoning.com/when-they-come-for-your-guns-you-will-turn-them-over/#ixzz2H234AwJ7

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:32 | 3122981 The Joker
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I laugh in the face of death.  Die free or live in slavery.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:53 | 3123065 aerojet
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Way to cave.  He's right, taking on the state by yourself is probably suicide unless you are Rambo, but there are plenty of ways to organize and then resist and it would only take two or three like-minded people to lay a trap for "gun police" that would result in a bloodbath for the history books--if the people at Waco could do it, so can anyone else.  The question is:  Do they really want to take the chance that formerly law-abiding people won't turn on them in decent numbers?  Over 1 million Americans voted Libertarian in the last election.  Right there is one million individualists who are fed up with statism.  The United States is a vast place and would be impossible keep under the boot--the US military can't even protect Kabul, not to mention the majority of war-torn Afghanistan, and there you're talking about the most un-educated, un-sophisticated people on the planet. Do not even attempt to create a hostile situation for Americans, it will not end well.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 16:13 | 3123533 The Heart
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Well, look at the numbers.

Less than 20% of the people support and approve the babylonian congress. Less than that approve and support the senate and usurper soterobama.

That means probably more than 80% of the people are sick and frickin tired of these babylonians and their media whore liars and deceiver propagandists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/congress-approval-rating-all-ti...

 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 19:28 | 3124135 AgAu_man
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Dare I point out the fact that -- ironically enough -- We The People pretty much elected/re-elected the same clowns back into Congress and Senate, whom we had recently given an 'approval' rating as low as 2%?

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 04:14 | 3124813 The Heart
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Actually, they, maybe an entire 10% of the brain-dead TV drug watching lemmings elected/re-elected the clown criminals, or thought they did anyways. The other 90% sat it out while the machines made it look like possibly 40% voted. There was a strong 40% no show voters who knew that all the puppets work for the same money god banksters and corrupted world domination freakazoids. Evil is evil and there is no lessor than.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:59 | 3123095 Freddie
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Daily Reckoning is pushing real estate developments and so is Doug Casey in Argentina, South America, et al.

And who the F*** is this guy to call gun owners Neo Cons!!??? 

I an't no Neo Con and loads of other gun owners are not.   Sadly my .22 cowboy wheel gun was lost in a tragic boating accident.  I miss it.  I feel defenseless but I have a Gun Free Zone sign in my yard.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:21 | 3123174 AgAu_man
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Good comment!  My gut feel is that -- in spite of all the macho bravado, gratifying, and self-assuring breast-beating -- most people will turn into Sheep.  Like in Germany in the 1930's.  In fact modern Germans have a word for this:  "Obrigkeit Bewust" (Obrih-kite Bay-woost), which literally translated "Authority Consciousness", but actually means "cow-towing to authority".

Because (a) all too many Americans just frikking LOVE to obey the law and authority figures (with those weapons and gear we worship in movies and video games), and (b) we were taught to fight against external villains, not internal villains.  I suspect that the Normalcy Bias will be too much to overcome the slow-boil that is occurring.

The only time that a real mass-revolt will start, is if too many are too hungry for too long.  But, by then their 'revolt' won't make much of a difference against the superior forces, who will quel and radio-silence even small 'disturbances'.  Be assured, they are taking copious notes for official "Lessons Learned" in the Arab Spring events/experiments.  Maybe they'll even type-cast US uprisings as episodes of "domestic/sleeper terrorists".  A la Orwell's 1984.  Maybe these same ba$$-turds are 'crowd-sourcing' (trawling) for ideas on this site right now.

Like one witty ZH guy (name escapes me) said a day or two ago... He put up info on FB, and got no response.  Not even likes or dislikes.  Goes to show how SCARED the "masses" have become.  God forbid, that an employer or would-be employer gets to see their non-vanilla, non-vetted views on FB, and disapprove/dismiss them! 

But I sincerely hope and 'pray' that the masses would act like traditional Americans, and not like modern, molly-coddled pets.  But, as someone once said:  "Intentions, Wishes, Hope or Prayers are not actionable strategies.  They are feel-good strategies."  I think that might have been me.

 

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:57 | 3123448 zerotohero
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right on target.....no pun intended

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:26 | 3123220 toomanyfakecons...
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Bullshit! Law enforcement and the U.S. military would not and could not enforce a treasonous general or selective seizure of firearms. If they tried, they wouldn't last two minutes against, armed highly-motivated Americans. *There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass*

 

No way in hell the author or many of the fear-bot commenters on ZH have been in the military. Honor and love of country still exists. For many civilians and those in the military/law enforcement it's not about the money anymore. America is not asleep. Untold millions of people are buying guns and ammo every month without the intention of ever handing them back. Everyone knows the fix is in and that lines in the sand must not be crossed.

 

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Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:45 | 3123348 WTFx10
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Yeah the Afghans have been giving up their weapons for ten fucking years. They just turn them in ,right after they kill a few of our marines armed with the best weapons the American tax payers can buy with their Joo Mafia reserve notes.

"They hate us for our freedoms"

So if we take them away then they will love us?

Guns don't kill Banksters, Debt slaves with guns kill Banksters thats who the government has to protect not  "we the people"

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 20:45 | 3124308 Fedaykinx
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If the only folks you know are lily-livered urbanite swells I can see how you might think this way.

The AR-15's would be the least of their worries.  Once it starts I'd be more concerned about all the organized militias with scoped 30-06's and .270's hiding in the trees.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:28 | 3122957 chistletoe
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"hypocrisy" is human nature.

Just look at how many humans go around calling everybody else a hypocrit, all the time.

 

Everyone I know, everyone I read, seems to know what good and evil are,

and every one of you tells me that you yourself are one of the good guys.

 

No one should have guns.  No one.  I'm looking forward to the day when the government collapses and everyone of you dumbfucks goes running out into the woods and starts shooting at each other for meat .....

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 14:36 | 3122990 The Joker
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Tastes like pig.  I like pig.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:34 | 3123306 WTFx10
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"I'm looking forward to the day when the government collapses"

We will be shooting at the ones WHO don't have the guns brainiac cause you won't shoot back. Whos the dumb fuck?

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 16:26 | 3123597 LFMayor
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Those tofu raised limp wrists are GOOD EATIN'.  You just baste them with their own patchouli oil and slow smoke them over hickory coals.

Wendigo Meats, LLC.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 20:47 | 3124313 Fedaykinx
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I say old man, that was funny.

Fri, 01/04/2013 - 15:44 | 3123370 viahj
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well, please enlighten us "dumbfucks" what your intelligence will have you doing "the day when the government collapses" without a means to defend yourself?

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