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US Secretly Deploys B-1 Strategic Bombers, E-6 "Doomsday" Planes Near North Korea
First the US fanfared the placement of two F-22 Raptors in the Osan airbase of South Korea. Then it demonstratively launched a B-2 stealth bomber on a training mission over a South Korean gunnery range. Then it deployed an anti-ballistic missile defense system to Guam and positioned two guided-missile destroyers in the waters near Korea. And now, courtesy of the Aviationist, we learn that the Pentagon has escalated once more in an ongoing cat and mouse game with North Korea, of who blinks first, and dispatched several B-1 ("Bone") Lancer strategic long-range bombers to Andersen Air Force Base in Guam. What is different this time, however, is that unlike the previous very public and widely trumpeted reciprocal escalation steps, this particular deployment has been kept secret from the public (at least the broader public), "a fact that could be the sign that the U.S. is not only making symbolic moves (as the above mentioned ones), but it is preparing for the worst scenario: an attack on North Korea."
How has the Aviationist learned this?
From his station in Amarillo, Texas, author, investigative journalist, technologies expert Steve Douglass heard something interesting. In a message he sent us on Facebook he said:
“Late last night I monitored “DARK flight of seven” on PRIME (311.000 MHZ STRATCOM PRIMARY) asking for current weather for UAM [airport code for Guam - Andersen Air Force Base]. On the frequency of 251.100 Mhz,DARK flight also was calling for “GASSR 11 and GASSR 12? (KC-135s) for “Tanker drag to BAB [Beale AFB, California]“.
“Dark” is the standard radio callsign for the 7th Bomb Wing’s B-1s based at Dyess AFB, near Abilene, Texas.
Even if U.S. bombers routinely deploy to Guam (where at least two B-2s are reportedly already based), the fact that seven “Bones” were apparently moving together is something a bit unusual, even if they were not going to Andersen AFB (they might need the weather report for UAM because it was an alternate airfield or simply a stopover on their way to somewhere else).
Actually, it’s also weird that some many big bombers were flying together (as the “flight of seven” heard by Douglass seems to suggest) since a standard ferry flight of multiple planes would normally see the aircraft move individually. And, another strange thing is that the pilot talked about their destination in the clear: if they wanted it to be secret, they would speak on secure radios.
Nevertheless, this might have been a non-standard deployment; a move ordered hours after U.S. satellites and spyplanes from South Korea and Japan had spotted North Korean missiles being readied for launch.
What is even more curious is that instead of merely serving as very expensive deterrence props, the squadron has a very offensive role, and is preparing for attack:
Earlier [Douglass] had intercepted an interesting communication off a military satellite in which an Ellsworth AFB’s B-1B, callsign “Slam 1?, was training to hit a “missile facility” in Snyder, Texas.
A practice run for a mission in the DPRK with a school bus depot standing in for the real thing?
Maybe.
American B-1 bomber pilots have reportedly shifted their training programs, focusing on in East Asia, more than Afghanistan and the Middle East. And, above all, any training mission has many similarities with actual sorties that would be flown against a real enemy in combat.
Anyway, Douglass has recorded an audio snippet of the exercise (available here). Based on the coordinates for Snyder, Texas here‘s the target on Google Maps.
Finally, and most disturbing, is that another aircraft also in the process of deployment is none other than the E-6 Mercury "Doomsday" plane, which are among the pinnacle in US Airforce nuclear war preparedness, tasked with "providing command and control of U.S. nuclear forces should ground-based control become inoperable" and whose core functions include conveying instructions from the National Command Authority to fleet ballistic missile submarines and also to further command post capabilities and control of land-based missiles and nuclear-armed bombers.
You can read more about the military air activity recently monitored by Steve Douglass in an extremely interesting article he posted on his blog that not only summarize the contents of the messages he sent to The Aviationist, but provides some more details about the alleged overseas deployment of E-6 Mercury “doomsday” planes from Tinker AFB, Oklahoma.
Perhaps to Kim Jong-un the military escalation to nuclear war is only one big joke, but to the US it is increasingly appearing very serious. And perhaps this is precisely what the Pentagon wanted all along?
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"... husk of industrial infrastructure..." hahahahahahahahaha please, stop. Just stop. Admit that you don't even _live_ in the US since you're spitting mad bullshit like that. If you did you'd know better.
The ability to kick out phantom steel rebar inventory and plastic toys does _not_ put you in the same class as US industrial capability. Especially not on a 21st century wartime footing. There's a part of me that wishes China actually tried, just so all the doomsayers here could get their nose rubbed in it hard.
Next you'll be telling us to fear the vaunted Chinese navy... you and people like you need to get a grip. Clueless.
Besides, here in the USA, we have 45 million workers on standby.
We also have about 12 million on disability. It would be wrong and unfair to ask them to contribute.
The DOD has rampant fraud, waste, abuse. None of the various disability programs suffer from those kinds of issues.
But they would be miraculously cured.
/sigh. For want of an intact condom, we might have been spared.
Neocons are so easy to get riled up. I love it.
Dude. It was a theoretical discussion. Relax. Change your pad. You're obviously having a heavy flow day.
You're useless as tits on a bull. That reply didn't address anything I said. Theoretically, you could be right. In practice, you're not. Please do more research if you're going to couch this as a "theoretical discussion". Anyone who says the US can't manufacture anything is flat wrong. You know this to be true, it just doesn't bolster your side of the discussion so you ignore it.
"Necons"... way to show your feeble hand, loser.
In my experience the US does not have the capability to manufacture large steel products. We buy them from Japan. Can't remember where I read it but more and more of our military procurement comes from overseas. Some of it even from China.
Tanks, aircraft, and really large ship don't count?
US will also lose a protracted conventional land war vs China/NK on the Korean Peninsula too. They role play his out every 3 to 5 years and in a conventional war setting the US/SK/Japan lose a lot more often due to logistical problems as US forward bases in Japan and Guam which would be hit hard by Chinese missles leaving the US without adequate air fields and supply depots in the Western Pacific.
It is why you see the US so eager again to try to secure bases again in the Philippines (never intended to leave Clark Air Force Base or Subic Bay in '91) and has been looking to grant various rights to refuel & refit in several Vietnam ports.
Don't rock-bottom PM prices count for anything?
They buy our bonds and we provide them with really, really cheap gold and silver.
Ingrates
Secrecy: You're doing it wrong.
http://i.imgur.com/3iSfX.jpg
so secret that im reading it on ZH... starting to wonder about ZH....
Maybe try re-reading then: "this particular deployment has been kept secret from the public (at least the broader public)"
OH OK
so its still secret? or no? or just sorta secret? or just fake hype?
Sorta secret, like you're sorta a fucktard?
Have you seen it on CNN or FOX yet?
If you see it on the NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams tonight you will know it is out to the "broader public".
The "Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer" in a report on North Korea hasn't said anything about it yet.
B1-B's would mean we aren't going to waste ground troops against the human wave of North Korea.
Have a cup of chamomile tea.
Nobody watches NBC and I think CNN is marginal of, unless you are stuck in an airport and reading subtitles.
If "see you in a few weeks" is something to go by, this shit is so on, soon!
Nobody wants to go to war in the winter. Especially in Korea.
Or slightly pregnant?
"super cool hype" actually. "it's all on the QT" which is why we all know this gig is going down. So kick back, pop a 40 and wonder at it all...
"we all know this gig is going down"
We ALL better pray and DO all one can to stop this insanity post haste!
IF, there is ANY kind of nuklear event in Korea, or anywehre for that matter, it WILL get to you and yours eventually. Not directing this at any one, but ALL should be aware of what the potential for radioactive fallout is, and more so, how to protect your families from the cloud as it passes. It will never be gone, but like the nuklear explosion on March 15th 2011, the wave of fallout will pass, fall, and remain all across the pacific and the North American continent. Don't worry, all you good folks in Europe will get your share also.
All kidding aside, this is a serious setting up of more dominoes to fall. Who profits? What is happening in the ME anyway, and what are those deceptive ones up to? Can you say a two front war? Can you say the USA will lose as it is being set up to do? Just like the first two world wars, countries set up to lose.
Ya know, it has been grand to witness all the awakened commentary here. It makes one feel like a proud father to see so many that are the sharpest knives in the drawer. Give thanks for all the awesome input here on ZH. It has been really hard to have conversation since those months after the dreadly attacks on 9/11. To think of all the stupidity of this war on terror meme that has taken place since that horrible day is absolutely ludicrous. Just plain old stupid, and the really sad thing is, how many of our troops have been lost, or maimed for life so the banksters could profit. The American forces have been properly drained and depleted just in time for a world war. Go soterobama! Do it for goldman, and ol jp morgue, the puppets for the rottenchild empire of crumbling dust. Mission accomplished, eh!
Long story short, prepare accordingly and know what to do WHEN, or if the fallout comes to your neighborhood. If this continues towards more world war for the banksters profits, everyone east of korea better be real concerned.
http://www.ki4u.com/guide.htm
http://www.jonbarron.org/article/preparing-nuclear-fallout
Sholom.
Even IF a story is in the mass media, many people will still know nothing about it. If it is not in the mass media, then the vast majority of people will know nothing about it.
Overall, we are in an insane dance between 99% of the people who act like Zombie Sheeple, spun around by 1% who act like Vicious Wolves. It is just as impossible to imagine the degree to which most people are adamant political idiots, as it is to imagine how some small groups are evil insanity.
Give the evil insanity of those allowed to be the controlling elites by the vast majority of abysmally ignorant masses of people, it is impossible to underestimate the degree to which utterly insane and irrational wars could be allowed to happen, in ways that go out of control of everybody.
The Anglo-American (Zionist) empire is going for broke to consolidate their hegemony, by systematically wiping out any and all opposition. They are able and willing to gamble with the lives of billions of other people, in order to attempt to reinforce the established systems of force backed frauds.
I believe it is impossible to underestimate the degree to which our psychotic national security systems have become INSANE, since the main things that they do now is provide the force to back up the transnational banksters' frauds. It is ALL based on attempting to back up Huge Lies with enough Violence to make sure that those Huge Lies continue to prevail ... However, eventually that must backfire worse than we can possibly imagine!
I repeat that I believe it is impossible to imagine the degree of insane evil manifesting through the ruling elites that are controlling what our civilization is doing, which is counterbalanced by the matching bookend of the degree of deliberate abysmal ignorance of the vast majority of the population! Together they are twirling dervishes of suidical self-destruction! Combined, they are in a trance. The ruling classes keep on getting away with worse and worse crimes, and there is no end in sight ... while the broader public appears to have barely a clue about any of that, and moreover, do not want to know! After all, things are so completely crazy that there appears to be no sources of "news" left that could be regarded as remotely close to trustworthy!
"However, eventually that must backfire worse than we can possibly imagine!"
Unfortunately good brother Marijuana, some do plainly see what is possible, and how bad it could be. In today's time, there has never been more intuitive beings on the planet. The problem is, they have to take the corks out of their eyes and ears so they to can see and hear the truths that are as plain as day. It is why these warnings continue to go out as a bright beacon. Sooner or later the moths in the darkness turn towards the light, and automatically follow the righteous heart to do the right thing to stop all this insanity. It is possible. The cup is half full, and not the obverse of this saying.
Thank you good heart for your very on target light here. It is so bright, the teacher has gotta ware shades!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY
Yeah because you could 'Google' a story in the New section and a ton of hits came up. You scooped nothing.
So secret that hopefully North Korea is reading this also. this is simply posturing and sending a message in a "dumbed down" fashion because I suspect although China was proabably watching the whole thing, China proabably doesnt share everything with North Korea, so, we have to put it in plane sight just to make sure North Korea does see it.
Just my thoughts.
A B-1 can carry quite a punch... 75 000 lbs of bombs.
So now they have on Guam... 2 B-2s... at least 8 B-52s... 7 B-1Bs... F-22s... which they also have in Japan and South Korea.
This is gonna end up very bullish.
Me thinks the big build up is because the Pentagon is expecting the following :
Step 1 : North Korea launches Musudan missile... goes over Japan... Japan shoots it down... (or the missile fails and crashes on Japan) or the missile is launched in the direction of Guam and the US shoots it down...
Step 2 : North Korean reaction unknown but very likely a retaliation will happen against the South/Japan.
Step 3 : tit for tat retaliation leads to full scale war.
They know what's likely to happen... all that build up is because they DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WILL STOP... IF IT EVER DOES. So all this is ``just in case``... or the banksters have gone totally mad and they really will start a war.
"... or the banksters have gone totally mad and they really will start a war."
Recall how it was that we got ourselves out of the Great Depression.
The Globalist Banksters (taking ques/orders from the Fed) are running out of options to save their fiat from collapse/'Reset'. Rather than deal with overall chaos after the dollar collapse, and an ensuing global power re-balance, they'd rather have an Asian war -- even if it involves nukes.
It's been done before. By the ultimate death machine of WMD's. So I'm not buying the snake oil they're selling.
I hope all those planes aren't sitting on only one side of the island. It might tip over.
Wish I'd more ups to give.
Is that sarcasm? You can't create economic surplus with bombs and destruction.
If you are going to take on China, might as well do before they get stronger militarily
The "use it before you lose it" strategy with weapons of mass destruction is increasingly like a group of mad men, standing neck deep in a pool of gasoline, threatening about lighting the matches that they are waving at each other.
All of the insane social problems created by weapons of mass destruction, inside social systems which depend upon the history of warfare to exist as they do now, just keep on getting worse, faster!
We continue to live in a fantasy world, where all our social and psychological systems are HABIT, cruising on inertia, almost on autopilot, where the FACTS that our weapons are trillions of times more powerful have not changed anything much, YET ...
We have a global system of electronic fiat money frauds, backed up by the treats from atomic weapons. We have transnational banksters that have taken control over almost all the world's governments, to use those sovereign powers to back up those private banksters' financial frauds. Meanwhile, there are only a few countries left in the world that those banksters do not already mostly control.
Therefore, we are looking at the insanity of attempting to consolidate the power of the banksters, DESPITE the weapons having become trillions of times more powerful ... and so, meanwhile, we waltz on down the path of history, as if those weapons are somehow not trillions of times more powerful ... Therefore, it is almost impossible to exaggerate the degree to which our entire civilization is completely and criminally INSANE.
It is way, way, way too late to have any sane military strategy, other than to never start using weapons of mass destruction. IF that ever starts to happen, then the military imperatives of "using the weapons, before one loses them" could take over quickly, and thus, everything change drastically, since those weapons ARE trillions of times more powerful than anything that ever existed previously in known human history.
The banksters don't want to live in underground bunkers. They will not start a widescale nuclear event. They simply want to put a central bank in N.K., and Iran.
Have you read somewhere, Infowars, PrisonPlanet, that the NWO wishes for a 95 percent reduction in world population?
5 percent survival.
What percent of the world are banksters? 1 percent?
What percent of the world are Jews? 4 percent?
What percent are banksters and Jews? Half percent?
Any surplus population for slaves.
They can kill us off without making the planet glow.
28,000 US troops and 15 million+ civilians on the recieving end of what will be the worlds largest artillery barrage tells me the states are taking this very fucking serious.
Meh. Artillery is overrated.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/north-korea-and...
"Artillery is not that lethal," says Anthony Cordesman, who holds the Arleigh A. Burke Chair in Strategy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), and is a national security analyst for ABC News. "It takes a long time for it to produce the densities of fire to go beyond terrorism and harassment." Even in a worst-case scenario, where both U.S. and South Korean forces are somehow paralyzed or otherwise engaged, and North Korea fires its 170mm artillery batteries and 240mm rocket launchers with total impunity, the grim reality wouldn't live up to the hype. Buildings would be perforated, fires would inevitably rage and an unknown number of people would die. Seoul would be under siege—but it wouldn't be flattened, destroyed or leveled.
Barring the use of nuclear weapons or large-scale bombing runs, destroying a city requires an extended campaign of shelling and demolition, the likes of which the world hasn't seen since WWII. When the Chechen capital of Grozny was all-but-destroyed by Russian forces in 1999, it was the result of months of artillery and missile bombardments, as well as air strikes.
There's LOTS of bunkers in Seoul. Now of course, NKorea could load chemical shells into the artillery (they have 5000 tons of it) but that would mean the US can retaliate with tactical nukes.There's also the fact that the north has little to no spotters in Seoul, no satellite coverage, and no surveillance aircraft (that could ever spot). Any artillery barrages would cause widespread minimal damage with no or little ability to concentrate fire
They would send special ops beforehand to spot.
And how the fuck would they pull that off in this environment?
Hell the South Korean navy didn't even detect/stop the North Korean defector who went back to North Korea by stealing a boat and crossing the NLL which is supposed to be heavily guarded! If they can't stop one unarmed guy... how can they stop or even detect armed special ops???
A) one person is harder to spot than a squad
B) you'd need dozens (at least) of squads to successfully spot Seoul
C) threat level has been raised, higher surveillance on part of south/US relative to that scenario
And insertion of squads is limited to land sea air obv, which of those are vulnerable to teams of special forces again? You might be right but only if our peeps are completely incompetent...oh wait
They would insert by sea. They have done it time and time again.
But North Korea already has hundreds if not thousands of sleeper agents in SKorea... but yeah, they would have a problem with spotting. Unless China supplies them the info using back channels.
so this defector defected back to NK?
i guess he couldn't handle DWTS
Or, you know, they could just be fed the satellite intel from China & Russia. Because proxy war.
A dead giveaway is their wooden rifles.....
We were in iraq 6 months before both invasions... sheesh pull ur head out
I don't care if Anthony Cordesman holds sum dum chair at CSIS, his grasp of the English language falls on the wrong side of BS- "Artillery is not that lethal"
Cordesman just another neo-con. 'Nuff said.
Really? With most of Seoul within range of NK arty? 18,000 arty pieces along the border, that the NKs have been hardening and sighting in targets since 1953? Not to mention Google Maps. The NKs could get off lots of rounds before return fire could take them out. If the average arty gets off 25 rounds, the 450,000 rounds landing in the South won't do much damage and won't kill many SKs? Are you that naive? My bet is the SKs would not take a lot of comfort in your opinion.
Really? With most of Seoul within range of NK arty? 18,000 arty pieces along the border, that the NKs have been hardening and sighting in targets since 1953? Not to mention Google Maps. The NKs could get off lots of rounds before return fire could take them out. If the average arty gets off 25 rounds, the 450,000 rounds landing in the South won't do much damage and won't kill many SKs? Are you that naive? My bet is the SKs would not take a lot of comfort in your opinion.
Not if THEY get Neutroned pre-emptively, and at this point, as you stated the scenario, I see no real need to waste time using any conventional bullshit.
These litttle bstds have BLED US DRY for decades,( I for one would have ended them when his grand daddy was in power), and blackmained half the world for FAR too long.And w/China pissed off at the lil shithead, don't look for them to get into it at all.(bottom line, we cannot afford to take care of them any longer, and I THOUGHT the mighty US OF A, did not negotitate with TERRORISTS???.
The us doesn't have neutron bombs, supposedly. Aother gift from the Carter presidency.
The us doesn't have neutron bombs, supposedly. Aother gift from the Carter presidency.
Have the North Koreans gotten new rounds recently? If not, what is the success rate for 50+ year old shells? Have the shells been stored well, or weathered? What about the artillery tubes? bit rusty? Have any of the soldiers manning those tubes ever fired any artillery in practise? Or at least, any soldiers under 65?
I doubt the reality would be anything close to WW1 Northern France; French and Belgian troops dig up an average of 900 tons of unexploded shells every year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_harvest
They can make shells domestically. So they should be good to go.
Agreed
If they have domestic supplies of potassium nitrate, why do they have food shortages?
I don't think they have enough lipo-suction going on, or enough fat on any dead bodies, to make TNT for the explosive heads.
No one except nk and chicom know that, we should assume they know how to store artillery though, they are still Korean after all
"we should assume they know how to store artillery though, they are still Korean after all"
Or they might just use the ancient Bio/chemical Weapons the Koreans are famous for: Kim-Chee! An artillery barrage with Kim-Chee shells would be most devistating! </SARC>
"Roo rike spiceee!?
WWII era battleship shells and powder from inventory worked fine through the 80s.
Estimated 10,000 heavy artillary pieces. Most self propelled. SHORT junk steel.
Do North Koreans have large retirement accounts that we can haircut? If so, that pesky European "sitchiation" might be solved shortly!
Sounds like there are plenty of Plan B's (Mario's a liar).
Wikipedia page with some interesting info and links if anyone is interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-1_Lancer
Yeah - this is starting to look more serious. But even so, this is still a precision-strike force at best, not an all-out "flatten them" kind of force. When they start pulling large numbers of B-52s, E2s, AWACS, A10s, etc., you'll know it's on.
Although we also just might be staging a "keep their heads down" force while we wait for another "Tonkin" moment. . .
Guam usually have a bunch of AWACS... And the US always have at least 2 dozens A-10s in SKorea.
They think full scale war is unlikely... so all those bombers would be used for precision strikes against nuclear/missile/artillery/command and control sites. This is usually the US war tactic. Take out the leadership ability to see what's happening on the battlefield.
http://blogs.fas.org/security/2013/04/oplan8010-12/
US Nuclear War Plan Updated Amidst Nuclear Policy ReviewDon't forget all the US bases up and down Japan and Okinawa. 700-800ish miles. 90 minutes to target.
About time for Vlad to send some more Tu-95s to buzz Guam at an annoying hour...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/05/russian-bomber-conducts-pract...
Russian bomber conducts practice strikes on US missile defenses in AsiaThere is only one thing to do with no korea. Sic isreal on them!
No wait...they are going to hit Iran...never mind.
if I were the North Koreans, i'd be launching my missiles at nuclear power plants in Japan, especially at Fukushima. Once the radiation spreads from Japan, then that will do the rest of the work for them. Once you render Japan uninhabitable, there will be mass panic, people trying to leave Japan.
What could Americans do facing such devastation?
If NK pulled any shit like, that Pyongyang would be reduced to a smoking crater in about 15 minutes.
lovely. that would solve the housing crisis. they could buy all the foreclosures - and they just printed a few trillion to purchase it with.
mi amore, you forgot the <sarc> tag, right?
"Once the radiation spreads from Japan, then that will do the rest of the work for them. Once you render Japan uninhabitable, there will be mass panic, people trying to leave Japan."
What if, the globalist rottenchild empire of dust is using this preconceived war rhetoric to launch a nuc on the korean peninsula to cover up the rapidly deteriorating situation at fukushima that they do not want to explain, thus causing the exact scenario you describe?
"What could Americans do facing such devastation?"
Most will perish from fear and absolute lack of preparedness. Some will have read the previous links posted here, and acted appropriately.
See Fukushima Sam's post:
"The detonation of sea-borne or undersea H-bombs planted on the three countries' continental shelves will trigger nuclear tsunamis with devastating consequences."
"...or the banksters have gone totally mad and they really will start a war."
Wait wait wait. That would mean Obama is a pawn of the banksters!
Who knew?
"So now they have on Guam... 2 B-2s... at least 8 B-52s... 7 B-1Bs... F-22s..."
For the sake of the people of Guam, let's hope they don't have all that military hardware parked on the same side of the island.
Step 3 : tit for tat retaliation leads to full scale war.
They know what's likely to happen... all that build up is because they DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WILL STOP... IF IT EVER DOES. So all this is ``just in case``... or the banksters have gone totally mad and they really will start a war.
Which will be over in less than 48 hrs, or less if the US and SK decide to spare any civiliains.
China has HAD it with the Bad hair Do gang, and will NOT get into this if it goes FULL Bore.
If Lil DONG, had a brain, he would back off LIKE yesterday.
It will be over in 48 hrs? LOL. I hope you're not drawing US war plans.
It will be over in 48 hrs? LOL. I hope you're not drawing US war plans.
If I WERE, it would have already happened,and 48 hrs, with the kind of firepower we have NEVER used, will draw a major gasp from the global community.In less than 48hrs, IF D.C so desired, there would be no one left alive in NK.
Yeah, keep moving important shit to Guam. It's the only part of America that the NKs CAN hit.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Gulf of Tonkin.
Interesting how this follows so closely after Japan acquired the Senkaku / Daioyu Islands. I would add the following:
Step 2.5 China acquires Taiwan.
Must. Distract. Sheeple. With. MOAR. WAR.
Japan just overdosed on radioactive fiat smack and woke up BondZilla. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-05/japans-13-sigma-bond-swan. Plus the pan-European bank run is revving up.
The puppetmasters definitely need a war for distraction and blame-shifting. The Japanese have the second-best sheeple in the world, always ready to sacrifice themselves for evil leaders who they unquestioningly see as good. A Nobel prizewinner assures us this is all very bullish.
I guess gay marriage and gun control wasn't enough.
How about gay gun control? Target practice at an absolutely faaaaaaaaabulous shooting range?
hey big boy is that a glock 26 in your pants or are you just happy to see me ?
Givin' the dog a Bone!!
I am the public.
Thanks for trying to make me feel special thou.....
Re US SECRETLY Deploys.... blah blah blah...
Yeah right - that's why we all know about it now....
Bullish iodine!
Hey Eddie, from the Sweetwater in Redondo, you might be better off with some Potassium Iodide (KI).
http://www.jonbarron.org/article/preparing-nuclear-fallout
America will not go to war with Iran as they are on the same team , as for North Korea well we need a bad guy to be scared off . That is unless China ( who is also on our team ) decides to sacrifice NK just to get WW111 going . Which ever way you look at it the governments are going to be fine , the only people who get fucked is us . As for the people in the army , well if you have not figured out you are not fighting for America then you are a dumb fuck and deserve to die
Dumb fucks do not deserve to die, they should be pitied unless they understood before joining, in which case they wouldn't be dumb fucks.
And we are not on the side of Iran, although we should be of course. I have an idea! Lets fuck up the only bulwark against radical Sunni militants and ally with Wahhabi/salafist assholes!
I thought Wahhabi were Sunni/Saudi, against Shia Iran.
" the only people who get fucked is us."
Lets just ponder this for a second. If you were the rottenchid banksters in control, and you owed trillions to all the peoples that think they have monies in your banks, and you do not really have all that money because it all dissappeared into hidden offshore accounts, and you could never in heaven or hell cover the quickening bank runs, what would you do, and prolly sooner than planned because of the impending crash, and empting of cash from every bank on the planet? Hummm.....
Same old Jong and dance.
I thought it was same old Dong and dance?
diversion, not a joke. a not perhaps, but for sure that's what pentegon would want
Kim John NORK is just trying to get more international aid by banging his GONG.
Time to go back to watching Kim Kardashian's ass grow.
FORWARD
and next thing we'll learn is that the cia twist-armed kim jong into provoking and agitating if wants
and furthermore distract the sheep from noticing that their saving accounts and retirement plans were plundered by the banksters. well played http://tinyurl.com/cmfvdm4
Story of some peoples life.
Thanks to guys like Richard Perl and Paul Wolfowitz and the so-called "Liberal" (read war mongering) media, the US has adopted Israeli foreign policy and now operates in a state of perpetual "Preemptive War."
Obomba is just the "man" to use nukes preemptively on the DPRK.
He has the Nobel Prize for Peace after all.
Dont forget that chickenshit, chickenhawk neo-con douche-bag Bill Kristol
I'd like to punch that fucker in the throat if I ever see him in public.
Kristol makes me sick to my fricking stomach..........
And you're missing the British contingent, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, the entirety of the military / intelligence / banking / industrial complex over here.
Saying "neo-con douche-bag" is redundant.....
+1 - repeatedly emphatic, even.
Bill Kristol is a genuine piece of shit disguised as a human being, no doubt.
And Obamabots would lick his boots.
Absolutely true. Hell, start a war with China and the MinTruth will have the whole D team, R team tv head hoard marching in lock stop to Lee Greenwood.
Forward!
Start a war with China.
Can you imagine being in the room with the guy that suggests that?
"Hey guys, I have a good idea...lets start a war with China; and we can do it Korea. We got maps of Korea already right?"
What could go wrong?
Well the insanity gap between QE and a war against China ain't that large... especially when you believe that WW2 saved the economy from the great depression.
Who will be left to be depressed after a nuklear/neutron war?
And that recovery a half billion years later, it should be quite nice, eh?
Graveyards are peaceful.
I was talking to deportee this am. He asked me about North Korea and the US. "Is there going to be a war?" he asked.
"Probably" I answered. "I feel sorry for the North Korean civilians who probably have no say in anything, just like us."
"Yeah," he answered, "I watched a show last night about how the average North Korean lives, Man, they are worse off than the poor here in Mexico."
North Korean leadership may be complete nutters but I do not find any truly redeeming qualities in US leadrship
At least the Koreans remain invasion free thanks to having a nasty toy.
Interesting that the US doesn't appear to be getting ready to use drones with teeny little Hellfires but big bad bombers instead. As I recall they used a hell of a lot of B-52 conventional firepower at Tora Bora with little effect - wonder what makes them think they are going to do any better against a dug-in NK military infrastructure. Unless of course those big bad babies are armed with neutron bombs, in which case - Poof. Lots of new vacant land and empty urban apartments for South Korea to re-settle - unless the Chinese get there first.
Of course, this can't have escaped the military geniuses in NK, and so I'm betting that at least one of those NK subs are parked in Tokyo Bay and another offshore of Fukushima with a nuke in their belly and a crew ready to vaporize themselves at the commend of the Great Leader.
There's been some amazing weapons to deal with NoKo, including a shell/missile with "smart" bomblets that deploy parachutes then find a target, then kill them. This allows one shot but takes out many targets. If I had to guess I'd say it was designed with NoKo in mind.
Tora Bora wasn't effective, because it wasn't designed to be effective. It was a dog and pony show. If we really wanted to move against NK, the main push would be to decapitate their command and control structure, eliminate the threat presented by their missiles and artillery, and obliterate their ability implement a local nuclear strike.
If we were really worried about it, a small, false-flag tactical nuke somewhere relatively harmless (at sea?) or chemical attack would provide all the cover needed to pull the gloves off and sink Li'l Kim's favorite bunker about another 500' down into the Earth along with every launch facility they've got.
I highly doubt the crew surrounding Dear Leader III would ever intentionally give him enough leash to get into that much trouble - but if we want it to happen, man we're really good at starting shit and making it look like the other guy's to blame.
How many of you fine folks remember the remote viewer Major Ed Dames saying that there would be a nuke that would go off on the Korean peninsula some 15 years ago on the Art Bell show?
Even if true vision, it could have meant NK nuke testing.
As I recall they used a hell of a lot of B-52 conventional firepower at Tora Bora with little effect -
Bro, this ain't Tora Bora, and in reality WE have NO clue as to exactly what the Ultimate potential is of these aircraft,or payloads.
My take is with 500k NK's,(plus hundreds of thousands of missles aimed at SK, this (IF it does go Defcon 1), will be over in a very,very short time period. D.C. is not going to give them a chance to over run anything, and Nuetrons fit the bill to a T.
Interesting idea, except the US doesn't have neutron bombs in inventory.
USA does not have neutron bombs, and the real thing isn't magic. The tora bora cave dwellers would have been very well protected from neutrons in their caves.
If it escalates any further, they'll be sending in Hillary on a Drone.
Now that should send Fatboy scurrying to his bunker.
And if she was buck naked, Un would immediately surrender
Maybe Hilary could swing a bra around her head and yell YeeHaw! like Slim Pickens did with his cowboy hat as he rode the big one down...
Two F-22s? But we threw more than that against the Decepticons!
NOW let's see if the Treasury will still talk about military cuts..!!
Kim Il Sung, April 15th, 100th birthday celebration. Party like it's armegeddon.
An EMP on tax day? God, I could only dream.
I doubt it. We can shoot it out of the sky almost as quick as they try to drop it from a satellite. Shit we could probably even hit a satellite from the ground using certain weapons as it flew overhead.
More like it is about that time of year when mass starvation is about to rear it's ugly head. Unlike his father looks like they are testing him to see how far he goes before paying him off with the obiligatory human food aid and oil shipment. It is a new dance partner time to find out who is wearing the shoes and how well they can mamba.
http://commodities.about.com/od/researchcommodities/a/wheat-seasons.htm
They follow a similiar growing and harvesting season.
China (18 percent of world production)
Winter Wheat:
Planting: Winter wheat is planted from mid-September through October.
Harvest: Winter wheat is harvested from mid-May through June.
Spring Wheat:
Planting: Spring wheat is planted from mid-March through April.
Harvest: Spring wheat is harvested from mid-July to mid-August.
An emp satellite need not be "dropped". It can orbit at the right height for maximum continent wide destruction, waiting its code, when it's orbit brings it over Nebraska.
Good thing the US supplied North Korea with nuclear reactors... otherwise how would the war industry make money?
Perhaps the 7 "bones" are on short-term lease to the Japanese for use in carpet bombing Japanese Yen across Asia
Britain has sent its three remaining rowing boats to the area, along with a box of band-aids just in case.
I gather from former colleagues in Whitehall that the RN is intending to keep well clear of this area, having had bad experiences in the past with US forces "Friendly Fire".
I also gather that the upgraded Vanguard class, and Astute class boats are rather better than anything the US has in service. Then there's the little extra factor of far better crew training . . . . . .
Go ahead and start your WW3. Britain isn't playing your games anymore. They have better things to do.
Britain is the Home of the NWO.
Redeployed from the Fuclklamnd islands.
One would hope this is a fake out... after so many bland threats by DPRK the effect has worn off and the only way to get something is a bigger threat... but we are nearing a new era and the dynamics of the past have changed. China is a major regional power and the excuse/punching bag called North Korea might have served its purpose and all sides are ready to let it go.
"And, another strange thing is that the pilot talked about their destination in the clear: if they wanted it to be secret, they would speak on secure radios."
Yes, they want people to know.
I was half-joking before that the situation in Syria/Iran and movement of multiple fleets into the area could be a fake out to strike North Korea or at least positioning to allow for what some may think improbable... a dual strike... (or at least 1 of the 2) It would be interesting to see the latest fleet movements update from Stratfor right now.
From this post it appears the US has signaled (because if a blogger knows and comm. was on open channels you can bet opposing SIGINTs already heard it from the source) to the region they are nuclear armed and ready to rock. The question is why isn't China freaking out about nuclear deployments so close to home.
The way I see it, the DPRK and Iran ("two parts from axis of evil") have a bright red dot on them... this is an ingeniously orchestrated disinfo ploy to keep everybody confused as to the next move.
This is just a big CON. SOS Kerry (who served in vietnam) will ride in there and obtain a compromise whereas we give the NORKs everything THEY want so they won't start a war that they can't afford/win.
Can I go back to sleep now?
I've been saying this for years. This will go right up to the brink. Think of the replay of JFK and the Cuban Missle Crisis, only this time 0zer0 (never let a crisis go to waste) will be the hero. What you will never hear is what was traded by the USA to China to get them to control N.Korea and make them back down. Just like JFK traded our Nuke basis in Turkey for Russia removing nukes in Cuba. In a few years you will see the annexation of Taiwan by China and the USA won't even wimper about it. That is the payoff. This has all been a strategic plan by China ever since they took over Hong Kong, which was the reason why China exponentially grew their economy because they got the benefit of all those British companies world influence. Taiwan is the next Hong Kong for China. This is all a grand chess game. There will be no war because it is not in CHINA's best interest. And China controls N.Korea energy, water, food, fuel, and arms. Without China consent and aid, N.Korea would not exist in a month.