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BitCoin Halted

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Yes, it is supposedly distributed, but that does not prevent BTC trading platform MtGox from halting trading for a bit, or 12 hours as the case may be.

In other news, according to today's leaked memo from the bearded chairman, one should move out of the BitCoin bubble and boldly go into the S&P bubble.

h/t @thedrickster1

 

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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:41 | 3436637 AndItsGone
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It's funny you mention Magic: The Gathering, in light of the original purpose of Mt. Gox. For those who don't know... it stands for Magic The Gathering Online eXchange.

No joke.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:17 | 3436842 NoDebt
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No.  Freaking.  Way.

Up arrow for you.  Had no idea.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:21 | 3436849 Agent P
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I find it even more funny to learn this bit of information from "AndItsGone" with the pets.com sock puppet avatar...if that ain't irony, I don't know what is.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:50 | 3437022 Thisson
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Mentioning magic cards is also interesting, as they come from a printing press, and because they have retained their value for the sole reason that the printer has had the discipline to not print more of them. 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:05 | 3437107 Disenchanted
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OMG! A Shadowmage Infiltrator has wormed it's way into Mt. Gox...You may draw a new card.

ROFL!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:38 | 3437246 Bangin7GramRocks
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Jokes on the Bitcoiners! Hustlers found a new hustle. And the beauty of the internet is the marks come to them. Easy money!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:20 | 3436860 SilverIsKing
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Do you have a Steg to sell?  I'll pay cash and throw in a Zip the Cat.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:08 | 3437116 fonestar
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You tell me when the nodes stop exchanging bitcoins.  Bitcoin is p2p so I don't care about MtGox or how many Benny Bux my BTC is worth.  Until that time your point is moot.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:55 | 3437309 Croesus
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FONESTAR: You're just begging to get hurt:

Don't say I didn't try to warn you.

My impression of you:

You're young, in your early 20's, living at home. You're not rich, don't come from a rich family, but not poor either. Your family works hard for what they have. You follow the alternative media (Keiser, Alex Jones, etc.).

Politically, you identify closest with Libertarian trains of thought, and Austrian school economics. This is because you see the system for the scam that it is, and you want to do something to change it. You recognize that the "current situation" = doom.

Christian background, Caucasian, live in the Midwest, maybe.

Honesty time.

Not with me, but with your self: How many am I right on?

Trust me man. I'm not knocking on your Bitcoins because I have any type of resentment, or animosity towards you, or Bitcoin. But I know bullshit when I see it, pal.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 00:48 | 3439626 Manipuflation
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fonestar is begging to get hurt?  Perhaps.  You threw a lot of shit-minded innuendo towards the MidWest on your post as well Croesus.  I will remember that.  There is one thing that you forgot on your list of our atrocities:  We are gun owners.(and we have ammo and plenty of it)  I have a bachelors degree in horticulture from the University of Wisconsin.(all hail the state of course)  Catching on yet?

 

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 01:26 | 3439703 prains
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nice Cro

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:47 | 3437280 Theta_Burn
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Can we use this latest, completely Decentralized, and un-fuckable action as a canard when team bitcoin finally get those new nodes up and running....

Did Alvic realty retract that bitcoin for real estate offer yet?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:49 | 3436684 tiger7905
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Or they have shutdown for 12 hrs due to, oh I don't know...  a hack maybe :-)

 

http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/11/mt-gox-cross-site-scripting-attack-wipe...

 

 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:19 | 3436482 dick cheneys ghost
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CH1.........is that you?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:21 | 3436872 Bicycle Repairman
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LOL.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:25 | 3436506 Schmuck Raker
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A 'Forum' letter to accompany the chart porn. Niiiice.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:30 | 3436555 kliguy38
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Just make sure you wipe well

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:33 | 3436571 kliguy38
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One more thing......dont buy gold......its a barbarous relic

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:46 | 3436665 Harlequin001
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Yeah, I hope this is the bit where we discover all the bitcoin charachteristics that are similar to gold...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:38 | 3436617 Edward Fiatski
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This must be an inverse chronology of events.

I still prefer the Lamborghini & cocksucking babes story.

http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/widget/chart/

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:44 | 3436651 A_Dog
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I am not familiar with ZH rules yet and not sure how far can one go

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:58 | 3436736 Edward Fiatski
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Here's some inspiration - http://buttcoin.org/

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:31 | 3436934 Bicycle Repairman
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Great site.  I haven't laughed so hard since the dot bomb era and the end of Open Market as described by "Ghost of Open Market" on the Yahoo stock board.  Good times.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:30 | 3436940 i-dog
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Nice link. I particularly enjoyed this commenter: "Oh you're still into Bitcoin yeah I guess they're ok, I'm more into Litecoin and Namecoin, they're a bit more indie, but yah Bitcoin's cool."

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 17:37 | 3438324 Cathartes Aura
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I'm still scrollin' & lol'n - but they had me at the first frame of "a story in 6 panels"

^^

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:28 | 3436921 SilverIsKing
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If the first post is any indication, I think you can go pretty far.

I do suggest you begin each post with the phrase, "Dear Forum"

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:54 | 3437048 Esso
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Hahahaha! Nice one, A Dog, had a nice "Christmas Story" feel to it. Your screen name should be Ralphie.

Drink your Ovaltine, bitcoiners!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:22 | 3437185 Lunch is for Wimps
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A_Dog = Brett Easton Ellis

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:51 | 3437305 tabasco71
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"Oh god, what have I done?"

Did I write that piece..... ?  I have the bitcoins, so maybe I did.

Seriously, funniest shit I ever read on this site. +1000 man!!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:17 | 3436462 Jean Valjean
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Well that's not a good sign.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:18 | 3436463 thedrickster
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Damnit, I was $30 bid GTC

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:18 | 3436464 Blindweb
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Everybody panic!!!

 

I want a buy in price below $50.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:49 | 3436599 Harlequin001
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You never know, lady luck is VERY quick these days...

Unless of course, the price has gone up so much they need a bigger screen to fit all the zero's on...

or a bigger database to fit all the zero's in...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:19 | 3436471 Sudden Debt
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happens to the best of fiat currencies... don't worry.... at max it can drop 99,99999%

 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:39 | 3436633 Edward Fiatski
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I think it all started out with $0.01 per BTC. :'(

There's going to be an even bigger plunge, once this shabang re-opens - call it Elliott Wave III. :)

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:08 | 3437114 zerozulu
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I don't get it. Since bitcoin is p2p open source, what the fuck this  exchange thing has to do with it? MTGOX is a BS just for stupid people who cannot think what the freedom is. fucken 99%centers. Asshole

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:24 | 3436884 Agent P
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What is it with you Europeans always using commas for periods and periods for commas in numbers?  Seriously, WTF?

/off topic rant

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:38 | 3436971 Kirk2NCC1701
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Lemme check.... Could it be because they were doing it before the US was a country and 'Wagon-burners' were burning wood? /s

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:10 | 3437125 mick_richfield
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But since you are writing in "English" you should be aware that the United States Government recently completed acquisition of all rights to the language soon to be formerly known as "English".

We plan to re-brand it   "American"  or   " Talkin' ".

 

 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 17:40 | 3438335 Cathartes Aura
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amrkneeeez.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:19 | 3436473 q99x2
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Corzined.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:40 | 3436621 Captain Kink
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"Bank" Holiday!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:14 | 3436815 Bunga Bunga
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Yes, happens in the Fiat-System all the time.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:19 | 3436476 Yen Cross
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      I knew I should have bought that Bitcoin house. Someone scored on that deal if they played their cards right.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:22 | 3436489 jeebus
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Would've been a good deal indeed.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:22 | 3436492 ekm
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Bitcoin is a smaller version of S&P.

The only difference is that people PERCEIVE that the Fed cannot allow it to collapse.

 

Truth is that S&P will pull a bitcoin, very, very, very soon.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:33 | 3436573 McMolotov
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From your lips to God's/Ben's ears.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:35 | 3436591 WTF_247
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I will believe that when I see it.

What would the reason be for them to sell - if the Fed has their backs then all you do is buy every day.  Valuations no longer matter - neither does news, GDP, earnings, macro risk - nothing.  There has yet to be any risk event that even stops the buying for more than a few hours in the last 4+ months.  Since Dec we have only had 1 selloff that lasted more than 1 day - that was the 30pt drop in Feb - that took 2 days to undo.  All others last a few hours.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:42 | 3436629 ekm
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All that fresh money has to gone to S&P and..............CRUDE OIL.

 

Economy is dead and needs resurrection. Only crude oil cheapness resurrects the economy and nothing else.

 

They will release from the SPR very soon to revive the dead economy, same as in 2008, same as Bush did. This will trigger derivatives.

 

Benny has become an order taker. Orders come from Obama and Boehner. Those are his two bosses, constitutionally.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:02 | 3436755 orez65
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You've got it backwards, Ben is the boss.

He who has the counterfeited dollars makes the rules.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:04 | 3436774 ekm
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He who has the guns makes the rules

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:09 | 3436794 dick cheneys ghost
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EKM, this is not the old USSR..........the American Empire has a reserve currency and a petro-dollar to defend...........The Bankers and Tankers are in bed together

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:19 | 3436858 ekm
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I think this is quite similar to USSR.


I also think that Bankers and Big Oil are fighting against each other.

Bankers are funding the Dems, Big oil are funding the Repubs.

 

Bankers are cutting into Big Oil's profit by getting in the middle.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:34 | 3436948 Professorlocknload
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USSR? This resembles more the Third Reich, in it's earlier stages than the USSR.

Corporatism=Fascism before the smiles turn to frowns.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:56 | 3437330 francis_sawyer
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I was thinking more Romulus Augustus...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:40 | 3436974 Alpha Monkey
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What would the reason be for them to sell...

to get into another asset that is outpacing the nominal valuation of the S&P in real terms. 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:26 | 3436902 Professorlocknload
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S&P Tank? Can't imagine the Fed letting it's flagship go down without an epic fight. Unless of course, it wants a nice crisis to take advantage of. Like a chance to go full on Krugesian. 

FIRE Economy rages on. The three legged stool supporting it all.

 

 

 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:31 | 3436935 ekm
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precisely.

 

They want to print by quadrillions now. Only a super crash will make it possible.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:20 | 3436478 Big Corked Boots
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"We're always on. Buy and sell Bitcoin 24/7/365 with the world's most sophisticated trading platform."

Uh-huh.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:31 | 3436937 Agent P
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Honest mistake.  Those are actually price quotes, they just forgot the"at $".  It should have read like this:

"We're always on. Buy and sell Bitcoin at $24/$7/$365...."

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:13 | 3437140 mick_richfield
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"The sign says you're open 24 hours."

"Well, yeah.  But not -- you know -- all in a row."

 

( I think that was Steven Wright. )

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:20 | 3436479 jeebus
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lol. wow.

 

bitcoined.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:35 | 3436577 McMolotov
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Bitconned?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:22 | 3436865 XitSam
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Bitcorzined

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:21 | 3436487 redpill
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Oh but silver is too volatile and scary!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:23 | 3436499 Yen Cross
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     Silver is actually up a little from the Europe session. The irony. ;-)

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:28 | 3436533 Dr. Engali
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Sounds like my wife during her" ladies time"....volatile and scary

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:28 | 3436542 semperfi
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you forgot:

hostile, vile, crazed, belligerent, insane, wacked-out, hysterical,........

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:30 | 3436552 redpill
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AND ALWAYS RIGHT.  Yes, dear.  I'll be at the bar for the next 4 days, mmkay?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:37 | 3436604 a growing concern
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"No, it's okay, I've got my sleeping bag and toothbrush. Love you, see you next Tuesday. There's some chocolate in the pantry."

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:42 | 3436643 Captain Kink
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and white wine in the fridge...I'm gone fishin'!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:44 | 3436998 Kirk2NCC1701
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Sterling Archer! What, now perma-rag Lana now turn you into a pussy?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:41 | 3436636 donsluck
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Sucks living in a maternalistic society, doesn't it? Tired of being manipulated? Take a long solo vacation, long enough she misses you. Could take a couple of months.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:21 | 3436494 Bearwagon
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Looks like the holders of bitcoins haven't suffered enough to be left alone. This is getting sort of ugly. What have they done, to deserve such a treatment? Didn't they just try to make some profits, which in and of itself wouldn't be a bad deed? This is a little frustrating, even though I don't hold a bitcoin. Disgusting at least ...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:28 | 3436532 LFMayor
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Poor guy.  You never got to play dodgeball vs. the retards during recess did you? 

Hazing isn't bad.  It's simply the salt of reality that adds a little spice to life.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:35 | 3436583 Bearwagon
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Come on, you little homeboy. I am a patient person, and one can always argue with me (at least I think so). But your ad hom is simply pitiful. Take an advice from a man who wishes you no harm: Mind your karma. And feel free to junk me anytime, if that helps you to feel a little better ...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:46 | 3436667 LFMayor
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LOL.  They taught you that violence is bad, didn't they?  That it "never solves anything".  Well, sorry, but Heinlien was fucking A correct.  It's the only damn thing that does.

So here's my point.  Someone fucks up.  They know it. But they'll rationalize it to protect their Id and ego and all that shit.  Their feelings.  We all do it, it's a human fault.  What keeps you grounded in reality, what keeps society functioning is when other members of that society <remind> you that you fucked up.  And if you do it again, you have to be reminded a little more sternly. Memories fade and sometimes have to be printed on a mind with something that doesn't wear off quite as fast.

I'm no fucking shrink, but I'll bet you 100 bitcoins that the fucking goink Adam Lanza never heard the word "No" directed at him in his life until shortly before he tripped offline.  If he'd been brought up old school, reminded by a jury of his peers that erratic behaviour was going to earn him penalties, EVERY time he committed erratic behaviour a natural sort of self-correction would have been ingrained on the lizard part of his brain.  Fire bring pain, that sort of thing.

Now, how does this relate to finances?  Well, you see, politicians and bankers are a lot like retards.  So alike, it's hard to tell the difference at times.  And we've been lenient and patient and "gentle" with them for far too fucking long and the result is this goddamn mess we're all currently enjoying.

So thanks for the tounge clicking and the tut-tutting, but I've gotten along just fine "being mean" to retards and I'll opt to keep right the fuck on trucking.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:53 | 3436705 Bearwagon
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Now you are talking in a way I can make sense of. I not even really disagree with you, except on one point: "They" didn't fuck that up all on their own (in which case you would be completely correct), but, as far as I can see, "they" were fucked up by ... ah ... I think you know exactly by whom.

 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:38 | 3436973 Bicycle Repairman
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Bitcoiners paid for an education, and they need to make sure they got an education.  Or "they" might fuck the Bitcoiners up again.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:18 | 3437170 Bearwagon
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I have to admit you make a point.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:04 | 3436773 BeaverFever
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I take it that you actually believe the Adam Lanza narrative? I've read better fairy tales.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:12 | 3436804 Bearwagon
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Never heard of that. Explanation or link would be appreciated.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:03 | 3436764 orez65
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What they did is that they participated in a Ponzi Scheme.

They were plenty warned about it on ZH>

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:15 | 3436827 Bearwagon
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As were the participators in those other ponzi schemes ....

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:17 | 3436843 The Abstraction...
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No, a ponzi scheme promises to pay interest. Bitcoins promise to give you bitcoins. We got what we are paid for, we are owed nothing.

 

It is more like we invested in a decentralized unregulated fiat currency and suffer massive fluctuations from little trading volume. Hairy, but not a ponzi.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:20 | 3436855 The Abstraction...
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The hate Bearwagon, is the hate of techies. Which is really part of the jock/geek culture clash from US education system. Really there is only one culture clash we need worry about, and the dark side of it rhymes with 'poohs.'

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:24 | 3437188 Bearwagon
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Not to disagree with you, but I adhere to my opinion, that each and every hatred only and inevitably leads to unmeasurable sorrow. (I know, Iam a dreamer, or, as others would say, an idiot.)

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:22 | 3436497 infiniti
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Pure comedy!! BCs are worth zero.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:27 | 3436534 semperfi
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if you don't hold it, you don't own it

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:06 | 3436780 Ms. Erable
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Looks like Bitcoiners definitely own their dicks right now.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:17 | 3437161 r3phl0x
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Plus $90/BTC still. Just sayin.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:56 | 3437339 Ms. Erable
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Shit in one hand, stack Bitcoins in the other; guess which one fills up first. 'Ownership' of a bunch of 1's and 0's ain't my idea of wealth.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:28 | 3436540 somecallmetimmah
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It's all worth 'zero'.  Faith is a force unto itself.  It defies both logic and the physical laws of nature.  It is irrational, exuberant, and suicidal.  It answers to no one.  It 'is' until it 'isn't'.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:25 | 3436887 Alpha Monkey
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Agreed, everything is worth zero.  Until we put our less than fully rational mind into the mix... then we begin applying numbers and other various labels to define worth and value.  By the way, this includes gold, silver, uranium, oil, whatever... if there were no humans around with the mental constructs of worth, everything would return to it's true value... yeah, zero.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:44 | 3437005 Bicycle Repairman
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If your feudal lord, sword in one hand, bird turd in the other, tells you that bird turd has value.  Your reply is "how much, sir?"

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:47 | 3437012 Kirk2NCC1701
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Same applies for 'Love'. And yet mankind can't do without either.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:39 | 3436627 Saro
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Things are only worth what someone will pay you for them.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:03 | 3436763 thisandthat
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Things are worth the use you can give them: if it has market value, then it has that value; if it has personal value, then that's its value. Bitcoins don't exist - it's an illusion; that's the big difference.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:16 | 3436836 The Abstraction...
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'if it has market value, then it has that value;'

 

It had a market value of $266 per btc. Then it must have had that value.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:22 | 3436873 thisandthat
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There's always a bigger fool - eventually that was you...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:39 | 3436979 The Abstraction...
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I did not buy at $266. There is always someone smug, who brags about calling the event, yet never profited from it. How much did you short bitcoin by?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:32 | 3437210 thisandthat
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I was talking purely in abstract terms. I'm neither short nor long nor anything in between in bitcoins - I'm zero coins...

Maybe I expressed myself poorly - what I meant was someone has to be that bigger fool and eventually that could be you.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:51 | 3437301 The Abstraction...
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Same can be said of any investment, just as it falls. Even with silver there will be bad times to buy.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:44 | 3438082 thisandthat
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Silver and gold may become worthless in the market, but still will hold a residual value (in jewelry, electronics, etc.).

Bitcoins, on the other hand, don't exist, so have no value whatsoever by themselves, and once its market value it's gone, it's all gone without any residual value left - unless for some reason you attach sentimental value to random arithmetic operations...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 17:15 | 3438219 The Abstraction...
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One day you need to buy something and you have not the physical to hand, so what do you do, but make a promise to pay, perhaps in electronic form. Otherwise we are back to the Stone Age, and no business will exist more advanced than a blacksmith or sheep farm.

 

'Bitcoins, on the other hand, don't exist, so have no value whatsoever by themselves,'

 

Not worth answering this, whatever one's ontological disposition.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 23:55 | 3439539 thisandthat
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LOL Precisely, my physical is always at hand... unlike my computer, or cell phone coverage... if anyone had to go back to Stone Age, here, it'd be you...

Bitcoins not only don't exist physically, which would've grant it at least a residual value beyond currency, they also don't have any value in themselves (unlike, for instance, software, music, etc...). But guess that's too ontological a notion for you to grasp...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:15 | 3436830 The Abstraction...
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If you can convince people to give them to you for free. You can't have mine for free.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:24 | 3436513 eclectic syncretist
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Looks like there's pretty good long-term support at zero.  Between now and then though, there's still plenty of time to gamble.

I can't help but wonder if the FedGov is secretly endorsing this Bitcoin phenomena so that it can be later used as an "I told you so" example of markets not subjected to their "stabilizing" manipulations.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:33 | 3436563 redpill
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On the bright side, at least they aren't worth less than nothing like Treasury bonds!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:47 | 3436685 Winston Churchill
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What , no cellar dwellers posting defences of BTC today ?

Not noon yet , maybe they are not up.

TPTB wasted no time once it became a threat.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:25 | 3436514 Yen Cross
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     We have a disgruntled Bitcoiner on the thread. evil laugh>

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:24 | 3436516 Lost Wages
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Reminds me of Wall Street.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:27 | 3436517 Debtless
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Last quote i saw was $79.

Bitcoin has been used as money for thousands of years. Oh wait, nevermnd, I'm thinking of something else.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:27 | 3436530 RSBriggs
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Last trade was at $176.  Mt Gox doesn't control Bitcoin, there are other exchanges, and many other ways of converting to/from the currency.

I haven't seen so many paid government trolls in one place since, well, never. 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:32 | 3436568 dick cheneys ghost
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This site says $60.00.........can you confirm?

 

https://btc-e.com/

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:44 | 3436656 thisandthat
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Lowest ask Price 77.59999 EUR

Highest Bid Price 50.00001 EUR

No comments...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:49 | 3436690 dick cheneys ghost
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I just refreshed.........Now at $72.00

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:55 | 3436712 Freddie
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California muni bonds are so much safer.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:11 | 3436797 Dutch Knight
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Last Price: 79.58 USD Low: 55 USD High: 237.41 USD Volume: 70968 BTC / 10021981 USD Server Time: 11.04.13 20:08
Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:49 | 3437019 RSBriggs
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Last price:$123.40098

High:$230.00000 Low:$105.00000

Volume:252039 BTC Weighted Avg:$159.36103

Time 11:46:03

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:52 | 3437032 silver500
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A bit like the spread on JGB swaptions...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:35 | 3436592 Lost Wages
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We anti-government trolls don't like bein' referred to as government trolls. You can be both anti-government and anti-bitcoin. Some of us long for a non-globalist environment, a more local focus, a more sustainable lifestyle that requires less technology rather than more. Or at least something that's not a totally ridiculous rip off.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:41 | 3436638 thisandthat
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Time to move to msnbc, then, I guess...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:25 | 3436518 LFMayor
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Once the shit falls out of the horse it's REALLY, REALLY hard to put it back in.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:28 | 3436531 redpill
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And the smell stays on your hands for days.  Or so I hear.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:32 | 3436553 somecallmetimmah
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Tastes like shit, too.  Good thing we no step in it, eh?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:33 | 3436574 redpill
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Save it for the lasagna!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:30 | 3436556 LFMayor
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LOL.  downvote?   What's the matter brah, contrail theory mockery got your mangina all drippy and stingin? 

Or is that you " Max civis mundi", just under a new avatar?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:38 | 3436614 Lost Wages
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Apparently at least one person disagrees and believes it is easy to stuff shit back in a horse.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:47 | 3436682 LFMayor
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They must have watched that German Pron video of their mother?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:50 | 3437295 NeoLuddite
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No need to stuff it back - Horses eat their poop

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:45 | 3437273 FeralSerf
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It's not that hard to put it back in.  Maybe you didn't mix it with enough oats?  Also, you need to put it in the "IN" hole.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:25 | 3436519 pupton
Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:27 | 3436524 tmosley
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BTC is meant for bypassing currency controls and nothing else (well, maybe buying dope).  You might be able to make some money by timing the imposition of currency controls, but that is super risky.  The vast majority of speculators will get fleeced.

You are supposed to get BTC, get it out of your soon to be 3rd world shithole, and buy another currency and/or PMs.  

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:29 | 3436535 redpill
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Maybe that's what's been happening?  Either that or some central bank decided to play some pump & dump games with the bitcoiners.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:33 | 3436562 jeebus
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This guy understands bitcoin perfectly.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:41 | 3436641 Lost Wages
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I agree. I was cool with Max Keiser and his bitcoin obsession until he went on Abby Martin and told all the angry college students to put their SAVINGS in bitcoin. Quick transactions, cool. Savings vehicle, no. Boycotted his stupid ass since then.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:45 | 3436655 somecallmetimmah
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Hey!  What's all this f'ing paper doing in my wallet?!?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 17:54 | 3438409 Cathartes Aura
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wow.

had no idea.  mainly because I have no interest/need for virtual bits transations.

but the Keiser story, that's quite an eye-opener. . . or at least it should be.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 01:40 | 3439729 jeebus
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I started following the Keiser report at the beginning of the year.

 

Max/RT/Stacy definitely upped bitcoin coverage in conjunction with the run up.

 

However, in Max's defense, he did recommend taking profitss of the table in the 100s for bitcoin.

 

So, you can't totally destroy him. No matter how much fun that may be. Max is arrogant but he did recommend multiple times to diversify into silver to his followers. 

 

 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:49 | 3436686 ThisIsBob
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That would be dollars.  Then you send them to your broker and tell him to buy the SnP.  Should take no more than a day or so to make up what you might have lost on the exchange, if anything. 

Presto - capital preserved.

 

 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:27 | 3436525 Dr. Engali
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It didn't take too long for the bernank to destroy that currency.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:27 | 3436537 JFK.4PREZ
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I just burned a wheelbarrow of bitcoins for heat.  

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:36 | 3436589 redpill
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"This is the sixth time we have destroyed Zion and we have become exceedingly efficient at it"

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:27 | 3436526 Ewtman
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I'm still betting Bitcoins will outlast the Euro.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:33 | 3436566 jeebus
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An interesting race!!!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:35 | 3436596 ZeroHour
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Yeah, best looking horse at the glue factory.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:52 | 3436702 somecallmetimmah
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Can it really "fall" if it weighs & has less intrinsic value than paper?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:30 | 3436541 RSBriggs
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Mt. Gox is not a trading platform.  It is an exchange, one of many.  They need the cooldown because they're now several days behind on getting over 20,000 new accounts per day set up. 

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