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The IRS May Be Reading Your Emails Right Now
Submitted by Mike Krieger of Libertyblitzkrieg
The IRS Claims it Can Read Your Email…Without a Warrant
Truly remarkable how the establishment views the citizenry. They quite clearly and openly view themselves as having full ownership of our lives, our work and our privacy. Actually, they do not think we deserve to have privacy at all. This is the exact mindset of all tyrannical regimes throughout human history, which is precisely why the founders made sure to include the 4th Amendment in the Constitution of these United States. For those of you that need a reminder.
The 4th Amendment:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
So with that in mind, this is what the IRS thinks:
NEW YORK — IRS documents released Wednesday suggest that the tax collection agency believes it can read American citizens’ emails without a warrant.
The files were released to the American Civil Liberties Union under a Freedom of Information Act request. The organization is working to determine just how broadly federal law enforcement agencies like the FBI or the IRS’ Criminal Tax Division interpret their authority to snoop through inboxes.
The idea of IRS agents poking through your email account might sound at the very least creepy, and maybe unconstitutional. But the IRS does have a legal leg to stand on: the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 allows government agencies to in many cases obtain emails older than 180 days without a warrant.
In 1986 they decided this? Who used email in 1986?
That’s why an internal 2009 IRS document claimed that “the government may obtain the contents of electronic communication that has been in storage for more than 180 days” without a warrant.
Another 2009 file, the IRS Criminal Tax Division’s “Search Warrant Handbook,” showed that the division’s general counsel believed “the Fourth Amendment does not protect communications held in electronic storage, such as email messages stored on a server, because internet users do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy.”
What kind of crazy logic is that. Says who?
Members of Congress recently renewed their efforts to change the 1986 email privacy law to require a warrant. But until then, the ACLU would like the IRS to act on its own and always use a warrant.
I’m sorry, but yes I do expect privacy when I send and email based on the Constitution and human decency, although I know the intelligence agencies do not respect those things. I can’t remember the last time I decided to cc: NSA; CIA; IRS on my emails. Do you?
The good news is that there is bipartisan legislation being brought forth to require warrants to read emails. It is called the ECPA legislation and you can read about it here.
Full article on the IRS here
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No doubt on the wisdom part. BTC if it is going to be used a speculative vehicle then needs to be improved upon as a way to break the stock market and it's role as manipulator of the economy and money for central planning socialist purposes. BTC is already proving to be disruptive, it needs to be improved upon not junked and redone from scratch, this where the allocation of resources in a free market type application comes in that the ones that know the manipulating tricks aka some of these get of my lawn types instead of being derisive should be allocating that knowledge to the btc people coding these exchanges to build in protections and rules in the ecosystem to combat against it. The foundation has been laid build on it and improve on it towards a common goal instead of sniping and trying to tear each down which is what these central control freak socialist manipulators want. Instead of thinking of it as a money think of it as a stock or an etf on dollars and attack them from that direction.
The crypto-currency template can be iterated for different purposes and tweaked accordingly. But one tracked minds can't see in 2 dimensions let alone 3 which is what our world is. Pandora's box is open and you can't put it back in the box now. It is not one dimensional let alone 2.
Bingo on the religion part same holds true for the gold bug type, worship is worship. This about the free market capitalistic based system structure first and foremost. The actual thing that is called money in it is secondary. Systems have structure and rules to them like it or not. As long the electricity is on there will digital fiat as form facilitating transactions in the market economy. Decentralized network of doing it is the most effective way to ensure a free market based transaction system.
And Manipuflation I am not in the 20 something crowd either. I am not going to give my age but I am in gen X range. I've been around the block plenty times now, I am looking at this from a systems design standpoint more than anything else. You have to have a general master plan from which to build the specifics pieces take existing pieces and make then work within the system you are trying to set up. It is one thing to mouth it is another to understand what it actually is. I don't claim to see the whole lay of the land or understand it all but I am pretty confident I have a fairly good grasp of how to solve these smaller parts of the bigger problem and integrate it all together afterwards. I guess it is one of those things being dyslexic and left handed I can see things from inverse directions and have to translate backwards. I guess the best way to explain is if you know what isn't you can infer what is from there.
"I am not going to give my age but I am in gen X range. I've been around the block plenty times now".
Solid post DCH. I do not doubt you based on the quality of your posts. Sometimes it just takes us a little while to get to know one another but I have always given repect to your ideas/opinions. We live in a digital world now, that is true but sometimes I just have to go off the grid though and go techless. Literally, out in the woods of Northern Wisconsin which is were I grew up anyway. You have to get real when you are out there in the brush.
You are correct to point out that we can't be one or two dimensional. I saw some of the BTCer's and PMer's sparring over the last few days. For sure both got our asses kicked in the last few days but that does not mean that the concepts are not valid. I have been backing BTC the whole time as my past posts would indicate. Conversely, there was a lot of disrespect on the part of BTCers towards PMers of late. That was wrong and very disrespectful from my perspective. History IS on the PMer's side. We look for the truth too and we have found it. Scarcity determines price. I am over it because, well... shit happens...I will just keep buying in this price environment.
Keep up your writing DCH. You make a lot of great points and thank you for that. I'd be happy to have a beer with you anytime. I think I will go watch the Masters for a while and see how many more penalty strokes can be assesed for stupid shit rules that have no effect on the outcome. I will probably make it 20 minutes.
How is one close-minded if one determines that this isn't as fool-proof as you'd think?
Rather than toss a straw-man into the arena by trying to preempt a counter argument let's discuss this?
I'd mentioned it in another ZH article, the concern that relying on TPTB's infrastructure* to distance yourself from Their control just seems a bit precarious. I'd also noted that this requires ELECTRICITY, and with more and more people experiencing increased energy costs I'm just not seeing the electrons flowing with such vigor as to supplant some physical currency: the overwhelming majority of humans on the planet have no such ability to engage in anything like this- this, then, boils down to a round of the haves-who-think-they-are-the-have-nots fighting the haves (when the haves-who-think-they-are-the-have-nots are far outnumbered by the REAL have-nots).
* Most end-user devices have backdoors or can be hacked. (someone posted a link to an article about a talk given at a security conference in which someone was able to demonstrate the ability to hack into an airplane control system and take it over- and we think out shitty little consumer-grade stuff is secure?)
I spent time working in this arena. I'm quite aware of the limitations on the technical side. And though it was over 12 years ago it was clear to several of us then that this presented a HUGE threat to the banking industry (someone joked about it and then we all realized the implications- silence; at that time we were mostly subsidized by one VERY BIG [and shall go unnamed here] bank- I suspect they were just pinning us down). The key/bottleneck is in clearing (no different than what it is with the mainstream stuff; no surprise, it's all the same model anyway), which, to further hone in on the point, is about scalability.
I do not dispute the encryption angle, but there's far more that comes into play/question when discussing security.
Who knows, perhaps this has been the design by TPTB all along. They've certainly pushed tech, people can't seem to speak without holding some tech gadget. If everyone is clutching some piece of iGadget then they just need to plug into the infrastructure, which will always be controlled by TPTB (for our good of course). And you can bet your ass that should the people decide at some point that they don't want to be forced to use their iGadget to pledge allegiance to TPTB, TPTB will be sure to alter your ability to transact. And this would be better than dealing with shitty fiat (or some actual meaningful physical)?
Nothing is fool proof. I've seen the when you think it is fool proof the world creates a better fool problem pop up enough already. As long as the code is open source yeah it can be hacked but at the same time open source means people can inspect it for backdoors or potential to slip them in. The usual white hat / black hat security politics will play out and revisions made like with any other software. The difference is the microsoft vs linux argument for security/backdooring purposes the opensource one is considered the more secure one and less easily backdoored while the closed source one isn't. To me the difference between gold/dollars etc vs digital dollars aka 1s and 0s in bank accounts, crypto-currencies is the same as analog vs digital or tapes vs cds vs mp3s. They are all stores of the same thing. To me the analogy would the difference between something like apple itunes alac with drm built in as opposed to some other format competing with the itunes that doesn't have drm built in.
Why not forward all our junk email to them everyday?
Eventually their IT guys would just redirect it to their trash file and send you a 'bounced' email. To annoy you. Nice sentiment though.
Yes, but that still takes CPU cycles. EVERYTHING has its limits. Given enough volume anything can be overrun. Whacking at a hornets nest, however, doesn't seem to be a smart thing to do. If you want to make something irrelevant then treat it as such (minimize your involvement with it).
Eggs Ackley! And some OP above had a good idea... cc all the agencies involved to begin with.
Good thing I never talk about my Space Program sized fortune in emails.
Anyone have the email for the IRS commissioner? I'll just start cc'ing him on all my correspondence with the signature now reading: "I willfully surrender the contents of this email to the IRS in compliance with its directives and regulations."
We are all fucking terrorists now.
Last week I cudn't evn spell terrist and now I are one!
Three cheers for us! Hip, hip, er, a... USA NUMBER 1, USA NUMBER 1 (please boss, I meant nothing...)
Well, I hope they fall for the Nigerian email scam.
How do you think they got $16 trillion in debt?
I was wondering how Nigeria had 16 new trillionaires.
If we cold only buy off those fuckers, I'm tired of that shit! Actually, I think we'd be better served by spending money/resources on educating the dumb asses who actually open up those e-mails! It would all go away if people would quit doing that! For fuck's sake, some of subject lines and names couldn't be any more obvious, yet...
When they develop bullet proof robots to physically round us up I'll worry, until then not so much. These bastards rely on fear and intimidation tactics to scare us into submission. Stop playing by their rules...........
Their biggest weapon is paranoia. They turn your own minds in on themselves.
Robots have to plug in somewhere. As long as we can find food and water (and find required shelter) it's kind of hard to put us out of commission.
The "insurgents" in Afghanistan and Iraq proved how well robotics work, not!
IRS, CIA, NSA, DHS. Top 4 of 10 reasons to become an expat.
I'm OK with old-school-FBI -- the garden variety that pursues real crime. Not the 'new & improved' version that creates false flag events around budget time and annual job review time. Those types are just plain douche-bags with guns & badges, because... where were they before 911? Dissing their agents who were warning them about it?
For these reasons and more, I am working on becoming an expat, as I have no illusions about the fate of Rome or my ability to prevent its demise. Admittedly an orderly path to comfortable expatriation takes a bit of money and a lot of planning, due diligence & time. It helps if you have a flair or gift for languages, and are worldly enough to enjoy foreign travel.
Gosh it feels good to hold a 2nd Residency. Five to beam up, headed for the Ursa Blanco (Polar Bear) constellation. Use Polaris as a marker.
The IRS, CIA, and NSA are global, good luck with your life on the run..........
What "life on the run"?
If you feel that you must keep your citizenship, then do so. You may elect to file taxes from abroad or do whatever comes to your mind. Else you renounce it. Or just hand back your Green Card. Ironically, the Green-Card expats suffer NO consequences. The 'I-renounced-my-USC' crowd gets some flack for a while from US Customs & Immigration (when they visit the US), but that's it. When you're gone, you're GONE, and they got nothing on you. They may elect to waste taxpayer money by spying on you, but they can't seize you or your assets. That is the point.
In the interest of disclosure, I have a 2nd passport. Works like a charm, everywhere. And thus not a target for US-imperialism-hating fanatics and towelheads. Especially when they discover that I'm not such an arrogant ass after all, but a charming SOB in the Pursuit of Happiness, and the Happiness of Pursuit. ;-)
Last I checked not only can the long arm of the U.S. Government seize you and your assets, they can also blow you completely into the eternal citizenship of heaven with drones at their discretion. You might want to update the human rights file..........
And their more clandestine front, the Chamber of Commerce, IS international.
I decided to stay. The fire eventually burns out: though I do have a couple of escape routes just in case (I'll hurl my wife through them first though to make sure that she makes it- if we both went it might be result in closures).
Seems appropriate:
http://www.clowncrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Alphabet-Soup.jpg
I strongly encourage all who have not watched the movie Brazil to do so. The robot remnds me of the sniffers in Brazil.
Question. How does the IRS gain access to an e-mail account? Do they just demand the password, or are they hacking the accounts? Something doesn't smell right here..
There's no need for them to access the account. They just open the mailbox file and read the emails. There's no encryption, or passwords on email mailboxes unless that's something you have specifically purchased... Did you?
I have my own physical in-house servers, as does anyone who actually has enough assets to worry about the IRS poking around. That's why I posed the question. An idiot that uses yahoo mail or something similar deserves what he gets in the first place. What I'm getting at is that the IRS would have to obtain a search warrant to search the majority of the e-mails they are interested in, so this 'revelation' doesn't seem like much of anything other than a 'no shit moment' to me.
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If you have your own registered internet domain, and the mx records* for that domain point to the IP address(es) of those in-house servers, then your assertion regarding the need for a search warrant is probably correct. Of course, I'm basing this on the old fashioned notion that the IRS needs a warrant to search the site where your servers are located, which may or may not be the case.
*mail exchanger
Well, what they're doing in the UK is putting black boxes in the ISPs which tap all traffic and send a copy to the UK intelligence services where they have an array of systems monitoring for "terrorism".
If there is no expectation of privacy on the Internet then they could legally do something similar in the US.
Site9, given your response above, this does not apply to you, but... For those who use one of those 'irresitibly convenient' free email accounts (Gmail, MSN, Yahoo...),
If you are that sensistive about your email -- or need to be -- then use a server outside the US, preferably a pay-for-service email. I think that Simon Black guy had some articles on this, else maybe the Tylers can posts more info on this -- for the libertarian/Libertarian folks who love their freedom of privacy. "Tack så mycket".
Here's how it works. Something is unconstitutional, but we want to do it. So, let's pass a law that says we can do it! All right...everybody happy? Oh, just passing a law doesn't make an unconstitutional act constitutional? Well, it's a democracy, we have a Supreme Court, go find a million dollars, hire some lawyers, work a challenge through the system for a few years, maybe you can fix it, citizen. Good luck!
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Actually, the article above may be misleading. I suggest that everyone read this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2011/11/05/can-the-irs-access-you...
-- Paul D. Bain
PaulBain@PObox.com
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It seemed reasonable until the last paragraph:
Who determines what "reasonable" means? And anymore, with everything being a "threat to national security," I can't see how they'd just make some shit up that sounds the part. If they're caught abusing this? It would take years for a single case to work its way through the courts, and then one hand of the govt would slap the other hand of the govt? slap the IRS's hands? feeling BRAVE, judge?
What about ssh and "expectations of privacy" does the IRS not understand? When I use ssh, I am designating something as not to be generally available. Of course, the best thing is to never use unencrypted email for anything that you wouldn't like posted on a billboard over a major highway, but still.
Email is not private. Sending an email is almost exactly like sending a post card, not a letter. If you want security for email you have to add it yourself.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gkGhMJWUKCE/SjCCOFK5yCI/AAAAAAAAARg/phMX9Ahl2o...
Wish you were her. - H. Simpson
I will show them my emails if they will allow me to look at theirs.
Oh wait, privacy and secrecy only applies to our overlords and their minions. We are not worthy.
Excellent point, As subways, schools, malls, sidewalks, buses, cafes etc. are put under high def and high fi surveillance, I've noted that the institutions of govt, which are public spaces, are free of these 'tools.'
Gosh, I feel so taken that obama made govt even less transparent than bush. sarc off. But it is precisely that level of naivete that allows these cunts to get into office in the first place.
Show me a pissed citizenry that demands accountability and I'll show you a constrained govt.
"Gosh, I feel so taken that obama made govt even less transparent than bush. sarc off. But it is precisely that level of naivete that allows these cunts to get into office in the first place."
And then the next batch of morons rooting for the other team will help give a stamp of approval for the next level of abuse. (Freddie, are you out there? probably busy working on Party Pussy shit)
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Where is the authority to ajudicate this, given our constitution?
Why are we blatantly ignoring the constitution?
When are we going to have the conversation about when we're going to begin the discussion of when we will have reached our limit, the tyranny involved, and how we will take our country back, as clearly, democratic processes are not only not working, they are being ignored?
Read this IRS!
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Stand back while I rip up this constitution, I've got GOVERNMENT to do!
From the article:
"The good news is that there is bipartisan legislation being brought forth to require warrants to read emails. It is called the ECPA legislation and you can read about it..."
Well, I feel better. My representatives will get to the bottom of this and pass legislation! That always fixes things. Stand back, you Average! We BIG people are doing GOVERNMENT!
Gold has been misunderstood in this forum for a long time (well, almost since ZH came into being). It is definitely true that if a major currency goes (and likely if that happens ALL currencies go within 3-6 months), that gold will skyrocket (not that one could spend it on anything then). But there are 2 memes/beliefs that will die hard with gold going lower:
1) that QE is inflationary or hyperinflationary. Central Banks just took over the role of commercial banks -there is no money velocity on their 'printing'. it is just 2-3 trillion on monetary base of ~60 trillion. MILDLY inflationary but offset by worse asset depreciation in deteriorating economy. "QE to infinity", in its current form is not bullish for gold (from these levels - cuz so much hyperinflation risk has been priced in)
2)that deflation is good for gold. While this SEEMS to be true historically it wasn't - what was bullish for gold in prior periods of deflation was governments/central banks RESPONSE to deflation, not the deflation itself. So if governments printing ability is like a peashooter relative to total (shrinking) claims, deflation will cause sell-offs like yesterday
My personal view on gold/silver is that one day they will be considerably higher than here, but we see $1200 and $20 before we see $3000 and $50. But I would guess we see $5000 and $100 before we see $1000 and $15. I suspect many reading this will have to sell some physical to pay bills before the days of new highs arrive. I also happen to think that focusing on gold and guns is thinking 1 step ahead in same general paradigm (of marker wealth measuring our relative fitness to conspecifics) and we need to be thinking 2 steps ahead otherwise the world of $5000 gold and $100 silver will be one where all of us who own physical would prefer a day where gold and silver arent worth much
1. Gold isn't pricing future inflation, or hyper inflation. It's approximately fairly priced vs other commodities. i.e. it's priced in past inflation. Indexmundi have a good database of past pricing for almost everything. http://www.indexmundi.com/
2. Gold is the final flight to safety in a deflationary environment, beyond the USD and US Treasuries. When governments stop paying their debts or banks start falling over. i.e. when you don't know what you can trust anymore, gold is what you hold.
We're getting there.
So I guess IRS won't be reading theirs: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-13/congress-exempts-most-federal-workers-key-insider-trading-reporting-requirement
Somewhat off topic but I was having a conversation with an IRS agent a couple of weeks ago as I owe them money.
I said to him "I am supposed to pay yall in fiat dollars and I don't have any of those at the moment and don't anticipate having any in the foreseeable future as the meltdown in 2008 deleted my job and I am over 50 so am having a hard time replacing that 40K a year job. I now only make 20K a year yet food, rent, utilities, gas keeps rising, is there aything else I can pay you with? Like, I dunno, eggs, veggies, a pig, a handmade quilt or something?"
The agent said in perfect seriousness "What are fiat dollars?"
IRS agent: "We only take US dollars. You keep your Italian Fiat, or anything else you got." ;-)
I just realized that fiat dollars is NOT what I said, I said "federal reserve notes." He didn't know what those were......
I'll be having that conversation in a few days. (how can I pay you when I need everything I make to live?). What will be the response if not now, some day I believe will be: Your spending will be limited to necessities. You will be refused ability to purchases that do not fall under "must have or will die - tuna, bread and water." Credit cards will be centrally controlled to limit one's ability to make purchases. This should take care of the overpopulation issue. As Suze Orman said: When you are elderly, unable to work any longer and very poor, you no longer want to live."
The guy next door to me, a landscaper (blows and mows) has under-the-table income and 4 cars and very nice furniture in his 200,000 home. Using credit cards only (no cash transactions), when your income is direct deposited into an account and no cash deposits are allowed, will end his ability to hide income in 2nd hand vehicle purchases. But, I think buying a bottle of wine or cake mix, or junk food, Disney land ventures, etc., when you owe the IRS or state tax, will be also prohibited.
We shall see.
send to [ all] subject i am broke. message i am broke and the house was robbed.
why cant there be a law that defines any information (including images, video etc.) about a person his/her private property and its use by anyone other than its rightful owner should be governed by existing property laws?
that would be a strong step in the right direction. and it would help with a lot of nonsense out there on the internet like identity theft etc.
they pass a lot of unnecessary laws but something like this is clearly needed.
just saying....
LAWS don't mean shit unless they can be ENFORCED. I'm not seeing that the govt is going to be able to exert more energy to deal with small-people stuff... (have you read where so many small police forces are closing down or are no longer responding to certain crimes?) Besides, it is THEM that would be the ones wanting to do the violating, I highly doubt that you'd get them, even if you asked nicely, to "not do that." Run or grab a tube of KY...
"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"
What happens when Caeser comes to believe that HE is God, and that EVERYTHING is Caeser's?
We are finding out right now in real time......
They are not ubiquitous, but they'd like you to believe so......
I just assume the government is watching every move I make these days. That's why I make a point of writing red herring emails, picking my nose in front of my computer, and giving a middle finger to the sky at least once a day. It's a diversion.
Oh wait, I'm just kidding. Did you get that Spooky?
Who cares?
It is creepy, but they should sock it to those who are hiding their income, or otherwise cheating the sytem.
I want lower taxes, but until it happens...maybe never...I will pay what I owe.
If you ARE hiding something and do not want to pay, leave the US and go live in some shithole country where evasion is easy.
"I want lower taxes, but until it happens...maybe never...I will pay what I owe."
I'm thinking that the point is not so much about paying taxes as it is about having one of your basic rights open for violation.
How much are you willing to pay? That'll be the minumum... and when it's 80%? 90%? 99%?
Many a shit-hole country you can at least see who gets/takes your money...
Someday, if the government uses this power to arrest those who merely disagree with them...it is time for a revolution.
For now, they want that power to chase out the rats who are not paying thier fair share.
Fair?
Are they chasing after the big banks?
End of discussion...
how about warrantless house to house search for meth labs? if you're not making meth, you won't get arrested. but that's not out in the public doamin like the internet so what about stop and frisk policies, you ok with that?
Internal Revenue manual stating that the IRS MUST FOLLOW Supreme Court decisions.
http://www.irs.gov/irm/part4/irm_04-010-007.html
4.10.7.2.9.8 (01-01-2006)
Importance of Court Decisions
Decisions made at various levels of the court system are considered to be interpretations of tax laws and may be used by either examiners or taxpayers to support a position.
Certain court cases lend more weight to a position than others. A case decided by the U.S. Supreme Court becomes the law of the land and takes precedence over decisions of lower courts. The Internal Revenue Service must follow Supreme Court decisions. For examiners, Supreme Court decisions have the same weight as the Code.
The IRS manual has this to say about email spying;
Part 2. Information Technology Chapter 12. Security and Privacy Section 1. The Use of Integrated Data Retrieval System (IDRS) Utility Programshttp://www.irs.gov/irm/part2/irm_02-012-001r.html
2.12.1 The Use of Integrated Data Retrieval System (IDRS) Utility Programs
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Manual TransmittalDecember 16, 2011
Purpose(1) This transmits revised IRM 2.12.1, Security and Privacy, The Use of Integrated Data Retrieval System (IDRS) Utility Programs.
Very informative No?
Then theres this;
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=255&page=509
"It is obvious that these decisions in principle rule the [255 U.S. 509, 519] case at bar if the word 'income' has the same meaning in the Income Tax Act of 1913 that it had in the Corporation Excise Tax Act of 1909, and that it has the same scope of meaning was in effect decided in Southern Pacific Co. v. Lowe, 247 U.S. 330, 335 , 38 S. Sup. Ct. 540, where it was assumed for the purposes of decision that there was no difference in its meaning as used in the act of 1909 and in the Income Tax Act of 1913 (38 Stat. 114). There can be no doubt that the word must be given the same meaning and content in the Income Tax Acts of 1916 and 1917 that it had in the act of 1913. When to this we add that in Eisner v. Macomber, supra, a case arising under the same Income Tax Act of 1916 which is here involved, the definition of 'income' which was applied was adopted from Stratton's Independence v. Howbert, supra, arising under the Corporation Excise Tax Act of 1909, with the addition that it should include 'profit gained through sale or conversion of capital assets,' there would seem to be no room to doubt that the word must be given the same meaning in all of the Income Tax Acts of Congress that was given to it in the Corporation Excise Tax Act, and that what that meaning is has now become definitely settled by decisions of this Court."
" 'Income may be defined as a gain derived from capital, from labor, or from both combined, provided it be understood to include profit gained through sale or conversion of capital assets.' Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189, 207 , 40 S. Sup. Ct. 189, 193 (64 L. Ed. 521), 9 A. L. R. 1570 "
Or, for those IRS agents reading along at home;
"... the purpose and design of Congress... is therefore apparent,... that the tax is imposed not upon the franchises of the corporation,... nor upon the property of the corporation, but upon the doing of corporate or insurance business,... that is, when imposed in this manner it is a tax upon the doing of business,... it may be described generally as a tax upon the doing of business in a corporate capacity." - United States Supreme Court FLINT v. STONE TRACY CO., 220 U.S. 107 (1911) on the meaning of the term "income" as it now pertains to the tax authorized by the 16th Amendment to the US Constitution.
They can't read this:
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Are you sure?
Or perhaps I should say don't be so sure.
we are slipping deeper into das kommunista
man rats out his fellow man
no one is safe
if you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your email communications, why is it a felony to hack into someone's email account?
Covetousness by any other name is still a sin!
Being told you have no right to expect your privacy to be respected, runs the risk of becoming a two-way street.
somebody needs to read my emails, I don't.
I check it when someone tells me they sent one, I read that one and delete all the rest.
More "À la carte" Constitutional picking and choosing. And I like the reference back to an Unconstitutional law passed in 1986 and the 180 days. My reading skills may have deteriorated a tad since college but I don't see "180 days" in the 4th. or the Constitution for that matter. But then I do see things like "shall not abridge" and Congress declares war.
Oh well, I guess it's just a "God damn piece of paper" anyways.
I'm going to change my email signature to include:
No quarter for IRS employees, past or present, when the SHTF.
Let the bastards contemplate that. hujel
If the fed just keeps on printing money then do we have to pay taxes?
FU IRS, CIA, FED, NSA, EPA, ALPA, et al
in 1986 the net was a DARPA project-outside of universities-the net had not yet arrived to the general public
there was a feeling of brotherhood sharing and courtesy and giving-then the AOL hoards started arriving...
"internet users do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy" -
This is going to bite them in the ass. What about internet users as the CIA, FBI, El Presidente and DHA?
Government, is exempt from their laws, by their law.
May have a loophole in the 4th amedment but, serious doubts about the 5th Amedndment against self incrimination.
Does this count as an "e-mail?
If so "IRS GO FUCK YOURSELF"
PS
All the rest of you alphabet DICKHEADS too!!!!