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Killed Chechen Bomber Brother: "I Don't Have A Single American Friend, I Don't Understand Them."
While the first alleged terrorist bomber, 19 year-old Dhjokar Tsarnaev, born in Kyrgystan, is on the loose currently somewhere in Boston and is the target of a massive manhunt, his brother, 26 year-old, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, born in Russia and legal US resident since 2007, died overnight in a shootout with the local police. It appears he was a boxer, studied at Bunker Hill Community College, was very religious, didn't drink or smoke, wanted to become an engineer, and his favorite movie was Borat. His YouTube page can be found here: on it can be found videos of Islamic preacher Feiz Mohammad. Most informative is a captioned photo narrative by Johannes Hirn showcasing the older brother's boxing pursuits and a glimpse into his history and philosophy.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev practices boxing at the Wai Kru Mixed Martial Arts center
Originally from Chechnya, but living in the United States since five years, Tamerlan says: "I don't have a single American friend, I don't understand them."
Tamerlan, 196 lbs, will represent New England in the heavyweight category at the National Golden Gloves competition in Salt Lake City, Utah.
Tamerlan, who studies at Bunker Hill Community College in Boston and wants to become an engineer, took the semester off from school to train for the competition.
If he wins enough fights there, Tamerlan says he could be selected for the US Olympic team and be naturalized American. Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia.
Tamerlan fled Chechnya with his family because of the conflict in the early 90s, and lived for years in Kazakhstan before getting to the United States as a refugee.
"I'm dressed European style," Tamerlan says.
Tamerlan stops to answer a phone call while walking from his Mercedes to the Wai Kru Mixed Martial Arts center, where he practices boxing
Tamerlan says he loves the movie "Borat," even though some of the jokes are a bit too much
"When you start kicking, it gets dirty. That's what I think," Tamerlan says. Of kickboxers, he says: "They don't know how to move."
Tamerlan says he doesn't usually take his shirt off so girls don't get bad ideas: "I'm very religious."
Tamerlan says he doesn't drink or smoke anymore: "God said no alcohol." A muslim, he says: "There are no values anymore," and worries that "people can't control themselves."
Tamerlan says his girlfriend is half Portuguese, half Italian girlfriend and converted to Islam: "She's beautiful, man!"
Tamerlan demonstrates a way of walking to strengthen the ankle muscles at the Wai Kru Mixed Martial Arts center. A native of Chechnya, Tamerlan says: "In Russia, we used to train like this. Here nobody does it, I don't know why!"
And an interview of BBG TV with Tamerlan's sparring partner from the gym:
h/t NickJ
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Well thank God they are Muslim!!!!!
It will be reclassified from a Terrorist Attack to Marathon Violence!
I don't have any any American friends either! Is that because I live in Cyprus?
Another Mooslim Monkey biting the hand that fed it. Too bad he wasn't forced to stay in Russia and get a dose of Vitamin L at the hands of an Interior Ministry commando. All you "false flag"-waving wankers, ask a Muscovite if these Monkeys are fake in their methods...
"Fonzie the ZH Paranoiac Jumps the Mechanical Shark in his Leather Jacket in Sunny Los Angeles."
Eyes to the skies Feiz Mahammed, you is abouts to be droned!......
Yesterday I was leaning towards this being legit. This morning after seeing the news of the police chace I was back to leaning towards it being another false flag. This write up with the pictures basically confirms it.
Naturally he is a Muslim. SIlly me for thinking they'd actually use a non Muslim for a bombing operation.
I just hope they tell me he hated Americans for their freedoms (which we know don't exist) which is why he was living in the country and wanted to fight for the U.S olympic team and be a naturalized citizen. Clearly in the "new normal" reality and what they say tell the sheeple don't actually have to match and hardly ever do.
It wasn't false flag. Their names would have been in the media within thrirty minutes if it was.
Legitimate sleeper cell.
There ARE Muslims that want to kill Americans.
Those are no doubt outnumbered by the Americans that want to kill Americans - at least half the country!
EDIT 9:45 EDT: Police are now looking for MULTIPLE suspects! [source]
They've already taken his girlfriend into custody, so expect Kermit the Frog to pop-up as an accomplice next.
They could escape by 'traveling by map'.
Rule #1: pick a loner, one that doesn't have friends...
Apparently it's time to bring terrorism "home", that is, to your doorstep.
...and here we go publicizing the criminals again, making them famous. Exactly what we shouldn't do. Nice going ZH
...better than the NYP making the wrong brown Moroccan kid famous?
Difference in degrees, maybe.
I think he viewed his targets as "normal" people, one of which he could never be. In other words, his envy ate him alive until he snapped. Not to say he wasn't prodded by certain parties, but to me it makes sense the path he followed, so long as you don't buy into the "normal" images he was projecting to the world
So what did dear old dad do for the CIA in Chechya? Looking at the timeline of their refugee status, I would think these guys' parents were some interesting people with some experience working for the US. Time will tell.
Doesn't make sense without the Ritalin ..............
The TV coverage is great! America looks Just Like NAZI Germany!
Long lederhosen.
Alex Jones is a credible source? Yeah, ok.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwURLwd8pEA
I've lived in America for 52 years and I still don't understand most Americans. Still, I don't blow them up.
that's sweet
This guy's dead, and now he can't tell his own story. What really happenned? We dont know, and we never will knnow. When they find his brother, they'll kill him too, so he can't tell any tales. Oswald all over again. Chechen terrorists in the US... very convenient for someone.
can we just pretend that they are two wite guys from Kentrucky please?....ya know, for Chris Matthews......
Chris Matthews really hit that nail on the head.
Thumbnail, that is.
The fucker is as sharp as a bowling ball.
The fact they aren't is what persuades me this is not a false flag operation. If they were a couple of white, Christian Americans, or even a couple of Iranians or Syrians, it would fit some sort of agenda for Obama's clique.
But a couple of Muslim Chechens runs about as counter to their interests as you could imagine. It reinforces the threat of Muslims, who Obama assures us are all peaceful, friendly chaps, just wanting to fit in. And they aren't from a country in which the US wants to or will be allowed to intervene. Putin will be clear that no one but Russia is going to bomb the hell out of Chechnya.
In my mind, this is not a false flag. Craft were there for legit reasons in my mind. You may junk at will. military ops are highly functional and deadly. These dudes were not that. I DO NOT KNOW. THIS IS MY OPINION. I MAY BE VERY WRONG.
Rubio, Obama, the Gang of 8 and Dems want more of these people with amnesty. If it passes then your guns will be gone in two years.
The irony of Massholes voting for a Muslim is almost hilarious. Yeah we need more Somalis and Chechens. When Poppy the NWO CIA stooge decided to go into Somalia because the TV media screaming for it - that was when America was over. It allowed for that scum to flood in.
Thats funny cause that asshole neo-con jew Bill Kristol said the exact same thing........Go Figure
The more you know about Beslan the less you'll want Chechens around.
Boston is COMPLETELY shut down now. What a total disaster. NO ONE knows what's going on. Hope you Bostonians didn't throw your guns away in return for empty promises of safety by your State officials!
Welcome to the Crusades, 21st century style!
No doubt there is some Imam that got a hold of these boys.
"Kill the infidels!" etc.
All this false flag "the CIA did it" talk is looney.
Muslims have made it quite clear they want to kill us for not believing in Allah.
In the past twelve years I have yet to hear an Imam or Ayatollah speak out against killing innocents.
By definition, if they decide to kill you, you're not innocent. Pretty straightforward.
And... Saudi Arabia is bankrolling so much of this crap. Sickening.
Mooslims are attacking Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists, rock-worshippers, you name it....
Massholes, Dems and others voted for a muslim and support sanctuary cities.
The Common Law
Just a couple of "wild and craaazzy guys"! It is certain to be spun into an anti-gun message. Perfect for Biden to take the lead on.
I've lived here all my life too and I don't understand my creditors...all they want is money ?
To understand Americans just watch Dancing with Stars... they are fucking idiots
Islam is a political organization, their existence is based upon hate and death to to any non believer. The place where this event happened is not the real America, it is to America what England was to the Colonists.
In short, there are people in this world who need to go extinct. It appears that the only arm of our government that has our best interests at heart is the CIA and their drone program, where daily they are sending these suckers to Paradise every day on the fast train.
Just like rattlesnakes in your backyard, you would kill anything that endangers your family or your welfare, Islam is our rattlesnake in our backyard. It is time to wipe out the Arabs and the hateful dogma they preach.
Why should we even view these people as human, I bet everyone of them have a Daniel Pearl pocket knife in their pocket.
Let the liberals East of the Mississippi River justify the continued existence of Islam.
Out here West of the Mississippi, where the real America still lives, we have a different view of dealing with those who want us dead.
Who would really miss Boston if it did not exist. It is just a hot bed of hate and unrest in this country.
If the Grand Mosque were to be utterly destroyed, Allah's omnipotence would be conclusively disproven.
Before you knock it, understand that it's been effective hundreds of times in the past against hundreds of mostly forgotten faiths.
Remember, Jerusalem is only the 3rd holiest place in Islam. So that leaves some serious retaliatory disproving on the table.
Is the Obama-Rubio amnesty passes, guns will be taken in a few years and you can go anywhere in the USA and it will be shit. Millions more borat muslims too stupid to know Borat is a jew.
This is ubermega bullshit.
Apparently domestic white and pure arabs were not bought by the public, therefore this synthetic white muslim from big bad rusistan(wink, nod) was invented...
How are authorities telling reporters to pull back? To not film? How do these reporters have to listen?
Even if there's a 1% chance this idiot wants to surrender, I'd LIKE TO KNOW.
Double Post
We are going to have to wait and see how this plays out but I would be astonished if the other brother is captured alive. Yahoo is already pushing the narrative with a "One down, One on the run" headline. They are going to kill this guy. You would assume they would want to capture him to question his motive and decipher if their are other accomplices or this is part of a broader picture.
Either way I want to know what Craft was doing on the ground with similar backpacks, why nobody is commenting on them being present and why the guy in the red shirt who looks like the ideal "white American" patsy is not being mentioned. At best they were aware of a terror threat as evidenced with radiation detector, bomb sniffing dogs, men and the roof and Craft being on the ground along with telling people this is just a drill.
They are going to kill this guy.
In other news..Financial markets apparently see terrorism as a stock market catalyst?
One or both of them have a Youtube channel, go look there.
home grown, religious extremist/radicalized. those are the toughest to sniff out.
religious extemism is an american trait. intolerance is not part of US foundation.
extreme xians, zionist, islamists....please report back to middle east so you can fight it out amongst yourselves.
Chris Matthew's tingle in his leg went away.
Gimmme the motive! Pleeeease!
Thought: They blow up innocents at the Marathon , but let the driver of the SUV they carjack go? And that guy then says "they told me they were the bombers". Yeah, I get it now.
Just weird at this point.
Yep. And they drive luxury cars, but needed to rob a convenience store. The government would definitely never tell us untruths. Never.
Forget about getting your ASSets out of the country now. Mandatory cavity searches for all international travellers coming.
What did these folks do for a living? Couple of Mercedes to tool around in......damn, I can hardly afford Chevy's......and yet I don't go around blowing people and things up........
The police are riding around on their new toy trucks.
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Watertown
Don't worry fellow ZHers, the longer and more drawn out this gets, the more rights we'll have taken away to ensure "that it never happens again."
They will never let this guy live, Obama and his cronies do want an Islamc hero on their hands. Just like Bin Laden, death will put this embarrassment to rest. No way is this kid going to be taken alive. Bin Laden was already dead, ever wonder why there was no medical equipment in the compound. We will never know who was really killed that night in Pakistan.
"I don't have a single American friend. I don't understand them."
That almost describes me right now, and I was born here.
Same here because my neighbors and coworkers are all from some other freaking country and can't speak english.
It would be great if the Bruins game was cancelled due to the lock-down. The Habs would win the division.
The real answer is quite obvious.
We need to ban Boxing. Its the violence of Boxing that caused all this. To start all Boxers must be registered and there has to be a 7 Round limit per match. Any more and its Assault Boxing.
F U Beryank
What a waste of life. So much promise cut down by false profiteering...
HIS MOTHER WAS ARRESTED FOR THEFT AND DAMAGE AT A SWANKY DEPARTMENT STORE LORD AND TAYLOR WHERE ONE OF THE BOMBS WAS PLANTED.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311653/Mother-Boston-bombing-su...
She has two daughters, also believed to live in the U.S.
There is no point having extensive expensive 'Homeland Security' if immigration officials allow unrepentant hate spewing people from known terrorist locations in other countries.
However, it is also easy to 'turn' isolated, vulnerable people harboring deep hostility into tools of terror, manipulated by hidden hands.
The Department of Homeland Security and the Immigration Department have serious questions to answer about their clear failures in this ongoing violent episode.
Came in as refugees from Kazahkstan, supposedly when these two were 9 and 16.
Hard to prescreen minors.
According to Moscow News they came in on Turkish visas and have an uncle living in Maryland
The mother and other family members were adults, yes?
Hundreds of years ago, early Americans raised the question of requiring newcomers to speak the common language and obey common laws; plus the separation of church and state.
This is for the benefit of everyone in the making of a Republic, shared rights and responsibilities.
Newcomers alienated by an inability to adapt can easily fall prey to crime of all sorts - or worse. This family are a prime example, it seems to me.
Loyalty to the Constitution is a matter of character and commitment...not the color of one's skin, politics or religion.
The Firday night news dump while everybody is distracted will be legendary.
Remember the finacial news released on the first evening on 9/11?
That's right, nobody does.
None of my friends have shoes like those white loafers, he should have gone to West Hollywood, I think they're into that shit there.
somewhere someone is taking notes. if two punks can cause this much cahos with so little.and after the us has spent billions on dhs.this is just a beginning
I have to wonder-- Would they have been caught if they didn't do everything possible to draw attention to themselves after their horrible crime?
This whole bombing case plays like a paranoid movie script. The only surprise is that one of the two brothers escaped the police. Why would the Tsarnaev brothers hang around the scene of the crime in Boston? And why would the Feds cancel a press conference that was to announce their initial bombing suspect two days ago? Good thing that West, Texas fertilizer plant blew up when it did, perfect timing to divert attention to the collapse of the original plan to announce the Feds' person of interest. A plan that went south when 4chan and other sites started uploading images on the Internet of maybe six different guys with black backpacks at the Boston Marathon finish line. Black is a very unpopular color for backpacks. I wonder, was black the police color of the day on Marathon Monday? And another question, will 19 year-old Dhjokar Tsarnaev end up dead, his death classified as a suicide, even if he is found shot twice in the head? Questions, questions. No question that the government used this incident as an excuse to palce an entire city on lockdown for one gunman, canceling all mass transit, somnething unheard of until today. All we need now are TSA agents to appear on the scene. I think the Tsarnaev brothers were fall guys, that they were recruited to plant the backpacks for money, not religion. Did they know the backpacks contained real bombs, not smoke bombs Only fugitive brother Dhjokar Tsarnaev can answer that question and dead men tell no tales. So, the Boston Marathon bombing is one more Reichstag Fire event from the government intelligence apparatus.
This was a live fire exercise, plain and simple.
Lets see a global chart of terrorist attacks by religion. I understand the secular/anarchist attacks represent a large percentage; I'm pretty sure muslim takes up the other piece of the pie.
No jew-hating nonsense to follow, please. Defenses and responses against uneducated third world stone throwers isn't terrorism.
Let's refine that "global chart of terrorist attacks by religion" a bit. Should it be "in the name of" or just the commonly recognized dominate theology? Hell, you can even just use the CIA fact sheets if you like.
How about: "faith terrorist practices." I didn't think the initial post was unclear. It seems you like to talk about delineating things which you have no definition based grasp or education. It's okay. Many peopel these days have CRS, or combative rhetoric syndrome.
How about: "faith terrorist practices." I didn't think the initial post was unclear. It seems you like to talk about delineating things which you have no definition based grasp or education. It's okay. Many peopel these days have CRS, or combative rhetoric syndrome.
Russians don't need any help with ruthless and certainly not from any religion. You guys are past the hook and the sinker.
Breaking news: they found a Chinese guy who admitted to it, no wait, that was a Fu Manchu film.
Ok, Gay boxer - what's next?
Something to remember: you can recognize real terrorism by the terrorists CLAIMING the attack, and for there to be a CAUSE.
Why would a terrorist blow up something without a cause and without claiming it?
Take an example of a real terrorism in Europe: IRA, ETA, Black September, RAF, etc.
Decades of real terrorism where each and every attack was claimed.
Americans seem to think that Batman is supposed to find out that it was the Penguin that did it...
That's not how it works! If there is no one claiming the attack it wasn't terrorism!
The case of the two SUSPECTS of the Bostom bombing does NOT justify the total lock down of a city, endangering many people in the process.
Has the FBI ever heard of sneaking up on a suspect and then putting the cuffs on them to bring them in for questioning?
I call total BS.