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Watergate Was For Amateurs: Justice Department Spied For Months On Associated Press Reporters
And so the final curtain falls on the myth of what was supposed to be, in its own words, the "most transparent administration" in history.
As it turns out, the big Friday story of Bloomberg journalists snooping on clients was just amateur hour compared to what the AP was about to serve. In fact, the Watergate affair may soon appear like a walk in the park compared to the First Amendment shitstorm that is about to be unleashed following the just reported news that the US Department of Justice had "secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative's top executive called a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into how news organizations gather the news."
First amendment? Freedom of speech and press? Surely not when it comes to the Nobel-peace prize winning President and those who dare to expose his secret ways.
And what's worst, is that the AP breach has all the makings of a spiteful hack driven by personal vengeance against one of America's premier news outlets.
We can't wait to see the rest of the not so conservative media stands up in arms and defend one of their peers against an administration whose utter disdain for all checks and balances puts Stalinist Russia to shame. Or perhaps it will be merely a case of "first they came for AP's reporters, and we said nothing..."
And while it has long been known that the NSA actively intercepts and records every single form of electronic communication, the unspoken truth is that the government can do anything it wants as long as it doesn't get caught. It just did, and not only in Benghazi, or the IRS fiasco, but in making a complete mockery of the First Amendment.
As the NSA whistleblower told Wired Magazine over a year ago, “we are this far from a turnkey totalitarian state", all we can add is "we are now in a full-blown totalitarian state."
And nobody cares.
The AP story which must be read to be believed:
The Justice Department secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative's top executive called a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into how news organizations gather the news.
The records obtained by the Justice Department listed incoming and outgoing calls, and the duration of each call, for the work and personal phone numbers of individual reporters, general AP office numbers in New York, Washington and Hartford, Conn., and the main number for AP reporters in the House of Representatives press gallery, according to attorneys for the AP.
In all, the government seized those records for more than 20 separate telephone lines assigned to AP and its journalists in April and May of 2012. The exact number of journalists who used the phone lines during that period is unknown but more than 100 journalists work in the offices whose phone records were targeted on a wide array of stories about government and other matters.
In a letter of protest sent to Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday, AP President and Chief Executive Officer Gary Pruitt said the government sought and obtained information far beyond anything that could be justified by any specific investigation. He demanded the return of the phone records and destruction of all copies.
"There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters. These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP's newsgathering operations, and disclose information about AP's activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know," Pruitt said.
The government would not say why it sought the records. U.S. officials have previously said in public testimony that the U.S. attorney in Washington is conducting a criminal investigation into who may have leaked information contained in a May 7, 2012, AP story about a foiled terror plot. The story disclosed details of a CIA operation in Yemen that stopped an al-Qaida plot in the spring of 2012 to detonate a bomb on an airplane bound for the United States.
In testimony in February, CIA Director John Brennan noted that the FBI had questioned him about whether he was AP's source, which he denied. He called the release of the information to the media about the terror plot an "unauthorized and dangerous disclosure of classified information."
Prosecutors have sought phone records from reporters before, but the seizure of records from such a wide array of AP offices, including general AP switchboards numbers and an office-wide shared fax line, is unusual and largely unprecedented.
In the letter notifying the AP received Friday, the Justice Department offered no explanation for the seizure, according to Pruitt's letter and attorneys for the AP. The records were presumably obtained from phone companies earlier this year although the government letter did not explain that. None of the information provided by the government to the AP suggested the actual phone conversations were monitored.
Among those whose phone numbers were obtained were five reporters and an editor who were involved in the May 7, 2012 story.
The Obama administration has aggressively investigated disclosures of classified information to the media and has brought six cases against people suspected of leaking classified information, more than under all previous presidents combined.
Justice Department published rules require that subpoenas of records from news organizations must be personally approved by the attorney general but it was not known if that happened in this case. The letter notifying AP that its phone records had been obtained though subpoenas was sent Friday by Ronald Machen, the U.S. attorney in Washington.
Spokesmen in Machen's office and at the Justice Department had no immediate comment on Monday.
The Justice Department lays out strict rules for efforts to get phone records from news organizations. A subpoena can only be considered after "all reasonable attempts" have been made to get the same information from other sources, the rules say. It was unclear what other steps, in total, the Justice Department has taken to get information in the case.
A subpoena to the media must be "as narrowly drawn as possible" and "should be directed at relevant information regarding a limited subject matter and should cover a reasonably limited time period," according to the rules.
The reason for these constraints, the department says, is to avoid actions that "might impair the news gathering function" because the government recognizes that "freedom of the press can be no broader than the freedom of reporters to investigate and report the news."
News organizations normally are notified in advance that the government wants phone records and enter into negotiations over the desired information. In this case, however, the government, in its letter to the AP, cited an exemption to those rules that holds that prior notification can be waived if such notice, in the exemption's wording, might "pose a substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation."
It is unknown whether a judge or a grand jury signed off on the subpoenas.
The May 7, 2012, AP story that disclosed details of the CIA operation in Yemen to stop an airliner bomb plot occurred around the one-year anniversary of the May 2, 2011, killing of Osama bin Laden.
The plot was significant because the White House had told the public it had "no credible information that terrorist organizations, including al-Qaida, are plotting attacks in the U.S. to coincide with the (May 2) anniversary of bin Laden's death."
The AP delayed reporting the story at the request of government officials who said it would jeopardize national security. Once government officials said those concerns were allayed, the AP disclosed the plot because officials said it no longer endangered national security. The Obama administration, however, continued to request that the story be held until the administration could make an official announcement.
The May 7 story was written by reporters Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman with contributions from reporters Kimberly Dozier, Eileen Sullivan and Alan Fram. They and their editor, Ted Bridis, were among the journalists whose April-May 2012 phone records were seized by the government.
Brennan talked about the AP story and leaks investigation in written testimony to the Senate. "The irresponsible and damaging leak of classified information was made ... when someone informed the Associated Press that the U.S. Government had intercepted an IED (improvised explosive device) that was supposed to be used in an attack and that the U.S. Government currently had that IED in its possession and was analyzing it," he said.
He also defended the White House's plan to discuss the plot immediately afterward. "Once someone leaked information about interdiction of the IED and that the IED was actually in our possession, it was imperative to inform the American people consistent with Government policy that there was never any danger to the American people associated with this al-Qa'ida plot," Brennan told senators.
Ah... the illusion of "freedom"
And below is a stock photo of a very busy Eric Holder. Well, at least busy when he is spying on the 4th estate. Not so busy when he is avoiding investigating and prosecuting Too Big To Prosecutve bankers for being instrumental in some $15 trillion in global asset transfers from the middle to the upper classes (and counting at a pace of $160 billion per month).
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Finally, in parallel news, following a FOIA request by the ACLU to learn more about the government’s practice of reading people’s email, text messages, social networking feeds and other private electronic communications without a warrant, here is one of "informative" responses the ACLU received back from the "most transparent" Department of Justice.
Update:
RT @markknoller: WH/Jay Carney declines comment on Justice obtainining phone records of some AP reporters. Refers press to DOJ for comment
— CBS News (@CBSNews) May 13, 2013
Updates via Politico:
Pruitt's full letter to Attorney General Holder:
There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters. These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP’s newsgathering operations, and disclose information about AP’s activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know.
We regard this action by the Department of Justice as a serious interference with AP’s constitutional rights to gather and report the news.
The Dept. of Justice has released the following statement:
We take seriously our obligations to follow all applicable laws, federal regulations, and Department of Justice policies when issuing subpoenas for phone records of media organizations. Those regulations require us to make every reasonable effort to obtain information through alternative means before even considering a subpoena for the phone records of a member of the media. We must notify the media organization in advance unless doing so would pose a substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation. Because we value the freedom of the press, we are always careful and deliberative in seeking to strike the right balance between the public interest in the free flow of information and the public interest in the fair and effective administration of our criminal laws.
House Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa has released the following statement:
This is obviously disturbing. Coming within a week of revelations that the White House lied to the American people about the Benghazi attacks and the IRS targeted conservative Americans for their political beliefs, Americans should take notice that top Obama Administration officials increasingly see themselves as above the law and emboldened by the belief that they don’t have to answer to anyone. I will work with my fellow House Chairmen on an appropriate response to Obama Administration officials.
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I'm sure President Biden will pardon him.
God Help us! He would be too stupid to not realize he has no mandate whatsoever...
But President Billary will send him to the chair.
Da Prez gots a nice insurance policy rite der, non ?
Fukking President William J. Lepetomane. God help us all...
I believe it is because of the fallout with his biological father, Frank Marshall Davis.
Always did think the Kenya stuff was a bit of a diversion in re: to this.
Some suddenly 'investigative' reporter is about to notice how very much those old photos of a young FM Davis resemble a certain White House official...
Why he may even determine that the DNA of FM Davis' son Mark seems to match that of said White House official...
+1 Frank Marshall Davis reference ...
This is not to be all red team, blue team but didn't the last gubmint actually jail people for not revealing sources? And the same gubmint that jailed these reporters let the actual leaker(a grown fucking man that called himself Scooter) walk away without penalty. You can hate Obama if you want, but realize that this country is fucked either way.
Scooter didn't leak shit. Lib state department Armitage did the leaking and was never charged with shit.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/08/leak.armitage/
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste." - Godfather rahm
Thanks for the lesson.
The press wil STILL give him daily blow, hand and/or rim jobs. And on demand.
You have to understand the type of "person" that goes into journalism to being with.
Imagine Feinstein and Reid fucking and producing offspring.
That's your typical journalist today.
At the risk of prompting a drone attack. Of course the press will still be up Barry's arse! After all, he's so hip, and good looking, and damn do the words just roll off of the teleprompter! Fact is, this man is an archcriminal who's only interests are power and control under the guise of "fairness". He's got to go before he does irreparable damage to the core of this nation.
You got that right, no more free ride. I think Obama has made a major mistake and it will cost him.
This is why Obomba had to get the 2nd Amendment neutered first. Then the Stalinist paranoids will have free rein to kill the sycophants, then the friends, then starve everyone else.
FORWARD SOVIET! FORWARD STALINISTS! VICTORY IS IN OUR GRASP!
Yeah, oboma with a free ride on his one trick pony
No big deal.
How President Obama Escapes ImpeachmentSolution: drone strikes on Kenyan aspirin factories. Next guy 'in charge' gotsta feed the war machine, too.
"I am not a cook"
"But my little dog Checkers is."
So, how do they blame this one on Bush?
Easy, repeat after me "It was Bushs fault"....there
Notice there has already been at least one "Well, Bush blah blah" comment on this board already. Because if Bush did it, somehow it's OK that Obama do it too.
Easy, Bush showed Obama the file cabinet with How To Be A Fascist Fuckface, And Oh By The Way The Israelis Have A Suitcase Nuke Under Your Ass So Don't Even Ask Certain Things written in tiny letters along the label.
Clearly Bush's fault.
There is no "There", there!
There there. Is is. Politicks is confusin.
Or, There's there there. There's there here? There's there somewhere...
It all depends on what your definition of there is.
Typical Democrat criminal behavior abetted by stinking RINOs, TV, Hollywood and the whores in teh media.
Well, I'm glad it's not serious then.
(I greenied ya BTW)
Aaaaand, just in case - /sarc
I blame the seequester for this unfortunate incident.
What's the over/under for impeachment proceedings against dirty lying cocksucker obama?
No.one.will.care.
"Waiter, there's a sprawling bipartisan mass of putrid corruption, fraud, and abuse of power in my democratic soup!"
Watergate treachery was far more serious than the author fatuously calims.
Nixon's treachery just before the 1968 US Pres election, in which he sabotaged the already aranged Paris Peace Talks, was discovered by FBI/Hoover. LBJohnson had the docs on this sealed for 50 years [until about 2025].
Watergate was only part of Nixon's attempts to get/destroy the docs.
ZH readers can search YouTube for data on this
Also you can reference this:
http://www.lars-klein.com/start/usa/nixon/nixonvietnam.html
For a clue to how much has been wiped from Nixon's historical record, answer this question:
When was Nixon's firrst trip to Vietnam? [not the first trip as President].
It was in the 1950's when he was Eisenhower's Vice-Pres. [IIRC, the year was 1953]] He was neck-deep in intrigue and covert operations even as VP.
See if you can GOOGLE search for it. It is pretty well hidden.
Wise up, whitey!
Some sicko journo left a post-it-note on a PC monitor screen stating "We know everything"............... silly bastard.
Two words... Patriot act.
Pravda, bitchez!
More like TASS.
Pravda=Truth. May be may be not. Depends who is say it.
Pravda is now more truthful than US media. Sad, but true.
Russia Today, beaches.
Let's see if the AP reporters finally take off their kneepads...
Won't happen. They are unionized.
I think they're all F'ing Jonestown Flavor Aid drinkers.
When it comes to Obama apologists, they do appear to have similarities to the Jonestown crew.
The comparison of Dear Leader to Jim Jones is appropriate. My wife has listened to hundreds of hours of recordings of the speeches (rants) of Jim Jones, and has studied numerous other cults. The speeches of Jim Jones and Dear Leader share many disturbing similarities. Further, the reaction of the adoring audiences are quite similar.
Plus, while Jim Jones was still in California, he was active in local politics and organized many astroturfing activities.
As my wife says, all cults are basically the same, and it never ends well.
These people all speak with a cadence. Doesn't matter what sh*t comes out their mouth, they know if they say it confidently that is enough.
There is no cure for psycho/sociopathy. Thats why sociopaths hate to be outed. Its the end for them.
Look up neuro linguistic programming. Obama does and probably Jim Jones. Jones brought in lots of poor free shit army types from Oakland aka Obama type voters. One of the last decent Dem Congressmen was the guy who actually had the guts to fly down there and was killed. Rep. Leo Ryan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Ryan
Scary thing is Obama simply reads what the telepromter tells him so you're left without a clear understanding who is running the show. The enemy is hidden in shadows. With Jim Jones at least the evil target was clear. TPTB have become increasingly stealthful in hiding their tracks and the sheeple continue to sleep.
Miffed;-)
Union made knee pads.
Look for the union label.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO7VUklDlQw
Unionized or LABOTAMIZD.....
No shit, they are constantly sucking up to the child president!
I'm telling you Tyler, it's not just the DoJ. Now the FT is picking up on this other scandal which is growing:
Did Bloomberg Violate Federal Wiretapping Laws?
Bloomberg should simply claim to have been acting at the behest of the current administration. Carney might reject that claim, but no one believes him any longer.
LOL! I would love for that evil shit Bloomberg to go to Rikers Island. He woul dbe fed Big Gulps, Slurpees and non-kosher 7-11 hot dogs. What a evil POS he is like Obama.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/25/doj-quietly-gives-companies-immunity-from-wiretapping-law-in-exchange-for-private-internet-surveillance/
Hard to violate a law that the DoJ decides is kosher to violate.
Panaf, it doesn't apply. Supervision for the wiretapping law falls to the Federal Reserve and State of NY because this is a financial instrument used to obtain information. The wiretapping laws apply but enforcement was shifted under Dodd-Frank as I understand it. That's why the FRBNY is "investigating" the breech.
Tyler(s) not going to listen to you... only his select "sources"
LOL, how do you know I'm not one?
If its the FRBNY, then we know the conclusin = Bloomberg recieves "out of jail" card.
Only after they provide all the data "acquired" from rivals to GS, JPM, and a few other selected "winners" of the FRBNY board....
Let me be clear. I am not a crook.
Who would lie to me? This is leave it to beaver country! We don't lie here. Lyin's what commies do.
AND if we are lying to you it's for your own good damn it!
"We absolutely do NOT have troops in Angola"
This is what the politicians told my parents, back in the day (70s) in South Africa. Couple weeks later they had college friends tell them they just came back from military operations on the Angolan border.
Perhaps not, but what about your president?
Does your wife wear a nice cloth coat.
They elected a black guy from Chicago. What the fuck did they think would happen?
Never mind all that ... Do you think TSLA shorts have capitulated yet?
Welcome to the New World of the Surreal. Please check your rights to the government bureaucrat on the left and you will receive one dystopia.
It's been a crazy year, that's for sure. Are there any of the rights in the Bill of Rights that this administration has not tried to abrogate over the past year? I was expecting bad things to happen as a result of Obama's election and reelection, but this far surpasses even my wildest predictions. It's hard to envision the Obama team skating through this many simultaneous crises without taking casualties.
Like it would have been any different had Romey been elected? JFC - the agenda is not set by the POTUS. They just pantomime the script handed to them.
its the year of the snake, which seem to be turning points,
previous ones (non-inclusive just some highlights):
9/11 and euro
berlin wall
apple computer
vietnam
non-truce end to korean war
pearl harbor
start of great depression
russian revolution to turn ww1
war against japan leads to russian revolution and einsteins major theorys' published
panic 1893 and first motion picture
president garfield and alexander ii assassinated
this year of the snake seems to be off to a good start, it will be interesting to see what the headliner is
That's interesting, and I don't mean to be harsh, but I"m pretty sure interesting things have happened in every year of Chinese animals.
Just think, the Federal Reserve was founded in the year of Ox. That was 1913
In the next year of the ox, 1925, we had the first TV transmission and Mussolini took over Italy and the UK, South Africa and Australia returned to the gold standard, etc.
In 1937 had Howard Hughes flying from LA to NYC in 7 1/2 hours and Trotsky tried to overthrow Stalin, the United Auto Workers were recognized by GM and the Hindenburg went down.
Moving on, in 1949 (the next year of the Ox) nothing happened. Odd. Just kidding - David Ben Gurion was elected in the first Israeli elections. B-50 makes 1st round the world flight, NATO was created, Chinese take Nanjing, Israel admitted to the UN?!?, German Federal Reserve established and the Soviets tested their first atomic bomb.
1961 had Eisenhower's first warning of America's Military-Industrial complex in his State of the Union before Kennedy comes to power and established the Peace Corps. Adolph Eichman's trial begins in Israel, Fidel announces victory against the Bay of Pigs Invasion, Trujillo was killed,
etc, etc. etc. - Every year has many things that may seem interesting.
1973 - Nixon announces an end to the N. Vietnam offensive, Roe v. Wade, Foreman beats Frazier, the US$ was devalued by 10%, Sears Tower was completed, I spoke for the first time and I shit in a proper crapper - forever foregoing diapers - etc.
MY OCD makes me want to continue. My laziness has, thankfully, brought this post to an end.
Looking forward to future year of the Ox, I may return to diapers in 2045 or possibly 2058, if I stop dangerous hi-wire acts.
Dasvidaniya, comrade!
Most. Transparent(ly Corrupt) Administration EVAH!
There is no source of illumination powerful enough to render this administration transparent.
I hear for a few microseconds after a nuclear explosion it's so bright that you can see through anything.
where is my balance of power? where is justice? impeach the imposter!
The funny part to me is that any of them expected something different.
It will be even funnier (in a sad, sad way) to watch them defend the administration that is doing it. sigh...
When one is hated by the MSM - think Nixon or Bush 2 - one gets reamed endlessly, even if no one died. When one is favored, nothing is beyond forgiveness.
Their Criminality isn't "hidden in plain view" anymore. It's has been for quite some time now, out in the open for everyone to see.
Fast & Furious
Bengazi
Libor
MF Global
Torture
Rendition
NDAA / Patriot Act I II / John Warner Defense Act
Illegal Wire Tapping
Illegal Wars of Aggression
War Crimes / Murder
Arming, Funding, and Training AL CIA duh and destabilization campaigns into soverign countries
CIA drug running and arming the Sinoloa Mexican drug cartels to fund the Black Ops and laundering the money through the TBTF tax payer bail out Criminal Banksters.
Agreed, they obviously don't care who knows how corrupt they are. We have finally reached the transparency that was promised so long ago.
You left out stealing GM and Chrysler from the bondholders...
Might as well mention Obamacare while we're at it..........
Don't forget
Obama Care
Dodd Frank act
John Boehner's tan
Don't forget 9/11 and the Boston bombings.
Is boehner the love child of mozilo?
Solyndra, bitchez.
In a sane county, any 2 from the list would be enough to prevent a second term. There are too many deluded or bribed voters now. It's going to get bad. Prepare for the worst.
I attended a pretty terrific shindig yesterday ( live music, food, the works) and got to talking to a guy older than me. He was refreshingly informed and sane. We dubbed all this shit "the daily face-slap". Told him to check out ZH and I think he will.
If I may add to the list, but look at Pigford and the agricultural department. Was a heyday for the lawyers under the guise of minority justice. People never wronged got nice pay days.
Yup, but don't you drink a Big Gulp peasant!
9 bullets in your gun? Arrest!
Fuck these thieving fucks and the good little Nazis who serve them.
http://en.rian.ru/military_news/20130513/181114993/Russian-Pacific-Fleet...
Russian Pacific Fleet Warships to Enter MediterraneanA group of warships from Russia’s Pacific Fleet is about to deploy to the Mediterranean Sea for the first time in decades, fleet spokesman Roman Martov said on Monday.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/game-changing-russian-missiles-already-in-syria/
Game-changing Russian missiles 'already in Syria'A Russian convoy of game-changing S300 missile batteries reached Syria last week, claimed Arab intelligence sources speaking to WND.
Russia just made their Syrian move...
S300 SAM's are not game changers. They are, in fact, old systems, and both the US and Israel have had direct access to them for many years. I am sure they will prove quite ineffective.
Anyway, Israel is backing Assad, according to reports just out of Turkey. If you do not like that, don't worry, they will back Assad's opposition as soon as Assad gains the upper hand. If you don't like that, don't worry, because when the opposition gets the upper hand, they will switch back to Assad.
They are just trying to please everyone, it seems.
It's not what most military analysts say... Anyways...
http://en.rian.ru/military_news/20130512/181098977/Russias-Mediterranean...
Russia’s Mediterranean Task Force to Include Nuclear Subs – Navy ChiefPeople like to make breathless reports. Calm does not sell analytical reports and services or get you air time on TV. I am pretty confident in my assessment.
I agree with your assesment. My guess is Putin is trying to bail Obama out with a phony crisis. Expect a false flag again. Some drug up Manchurian kid will shoot up a mall or county fair.
S300 SAM's are not game changers.
but they will stop israel from flying into syria to blow shit up.
Israel did not fly into Syria to blow stuff up. Even Syria admitted this. Look at Google maps. Israeli jets can sit in Lebanon and fire down on the stuff that Syria has stacked right at the Syrian/Lebanese border.
When Israel compromised the S300 in the early 80s I am pretty sure it was a slightly more primitive version than currently. Even still, the weakness they exploited was the blindspot on the sides of the Syrian airplanes. If that weakness has been remedied, or is addressed in a strategic way (i.e. having planes flying perpendicular to one another, or even in parallel, to minimize blind spots) then it becomes a lot tougher to shoot down those planes.
The naval deployments are not new. The question is what else arrived, and what more is coming.
Are the S-300s operated by Russians? (if they really were delivered last week that is, doubt it)
Allow me to speak for the future Republic of Texas - "YEEHAW!!! Let the shit storm begin.
Better start building some fences to keep out those folk from California :)
I'll build a fence to keep texans in.
The Antidote and cure for the Criminal Lawlessness is simple:
On 29 April 1945, the bodies of Mussolini, Petacci, and the other executed Fascists were loaded into a moving van and trucked south to Milan. There, at 3:00 am, they were dumped on the ground in the old Piazzale Loreto. The piazza had been renamed "Piazza Quindici Martiri" in honor of 15 anti-Fascists recently executed there.[122]
After being shot, kicked, and spat upon, the bodies were hung upside down on meathooks from the roof of an Esso gas station. The bodies were then stoned by civilians from below. This was done both to discourage any Fascists from continuing the fight and as an act of revenge for the hanging of many partisans in the same place by Axis authorities. The corpse of the deposed leader became subject to ridicule and abuse. Fascist loyalist Achille Starace was captured and sentenced to death and then taken to the Piazzale Loreto and shown the body of Mussolini. Starace, who once said of Mussolini "He is a god,"[123] saluted what was left of his leader just before he was shot. The body of Starace was subsequently strung up next to the body of Mussolini.
I would prefer to hang them upside down, slit their throats and watch them drown in their own blood.
Chupacabra-322.
In 1930's, NKVD in the Soviet Union, was doing even worst things. Peasant farmers, called Kulaks, would be hung upside in front of the house. NKVD guy would slice their stomach until the intestines would fall to the ground. Left like that to die and a lesson to others. Not much is written about this in the West because it would make communist look "bad".
That is literally the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the crimes of the NKVD/OGPU/Cheka.
Now there you go, that's how you do it.
Rejection; Revolution; Retribution; Restoration of the Constitutional republic
hujel
Esso station owned by Rockefeller/Rothschilds.
I heard once as a child that Washington DC orriginally had an actual tree of liberty that had also long ago been a hanging tree for justince of that eary era. Does anyone know if this is accurate? We need more of these trees spread around DC for convienience.
Nixon was a pussy... no, really... Actually I sincerely believe he would be amazed and even possibly dismayed with what the current administration can get away with.
"Why didn't I think of that?" -Slick Dicky
If you believe it was just those two months... you're kidding yourself.
2006 :
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm?453
NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls
2012 :
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/
The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy CenterSpy vs. Spy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dNxK_wslqo (4:31)
The best way to bring down a tyrant is for the world to be shown tyrannical behaviour.
Oh if that were only true.
History suggests it takes a large-scale civil or global war, and then you still have to find and hang the tricky little fucker.
Even tougher when they hide behind so many proxies, and corporations, and committees!
At least they don't have to worry about Swiss law suits.
We don't care.
Signed, the Free Shit Army
Comment of the year raht chair. Simple, profound, horrifically truer than true. +1000
cosigned, the Democratic Party, that doesn't mind when Obama breaks the law
and the Republican Party, that hates Obama but likes his ideas about civil liberties and the Constitution
And every intrusion the government makes is for our "security" (as very broadly defined) -- hence lieing, tracking, recording, etc is for the "common good." So do not dare question the government's motive.
“The government would not say why it sought the records.”
This means we are to assume the government behaved criminally.
What we need is more regulation for the regulators.
Perhaps a new, highly empowered regulatory commission....
Just some news for Fox... Nothing will come of this. Next!
Double post, sorry.
Don't let it happen again...
Don't let it happen again...
Not so sure about that. They have now pissed off one of the insider organizations, which was supposed to look the other way. Like all tyrants, they thought they could get away with anything, and so they pushed further and further. Combine this with the IRS scandal, the Bengazi fiasco, and the gun control pushback, and I think Soetoro and Jarret are going to have a very bad time going forward. They can kiss the 2014 elections good-bye...
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of Communists.
this just in " The Obama administration, this weekend, announced an emergency bail-out of the Tea Parties' credibility"
Ron Paul 2012.........oh.......wait
Pondering...... has there ever been a series of orchestrated events designed to discredit a form of government, such that even believers in said form of government acquiesced to its overthrow?
I am cynical about Homeland Security, burdensome tax structures, IRS, military complex, preponderance of rules designed to curb individual liberties, lack of equality under the law.... and yet I feel a growing threat just beyond my periphery.
Hot tip Feds.... I heard it's that Tea Party member and subversive Constitutional patriot, Nancy Grace aka Pig Vomit.
If this doesnt turn the media (AP)... it is definitive proof they are whores.
Anyway, we now know why Gitmo is still open. Ink Terrorism
It's to protect your freedomz.
- The sheep
That's gonna have to be a big false flag...
Hmmm I wonder how much time we have before the final curtain falls? Do they wait until the completion of the NSA Utah Orwellian complex, gun registration/confiscation, biometric ID in the new immigration bill? Or do they just say fuckit and do the ultimate flase flag on the 4th of July?
July 4 is like 7 weeks away. That's a long time amigo.
The AP article page took forever to load earlier. The comments are exploding on there.
LOL color me surprised that there is another "scandal". Bernie Madoff is laughing in his cell thinking "Glad I'm in here bitchez!"
It would not surprise me if this terror plot was originated by a CIA informant.
Well, this is definitely the most transparent administration in history. Transparently corrupt, transparently tyrannical, transparently antithetical to everything that patriotic Americans care about and have been willing to lay down their lives for throughout the generations.
Uh, Who's just now waking up to the fact that we have been living in a fucking police state?
I have not woken up yet. I am taken my pills as prescribed.
Show me the way to the FEMA camp. I'm tired of waiting.