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Ron Paul: "The IRS’s Job Is To Violate Our Liberties"
From Ron Paul
The IRS’s Job Is To Violate Our Liberties
“What do you expect when you target the President?” This is what an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) agent allegedly said to the head of a conservative organization that was being audited after calling for the impeachment of then-President Clinton. Recent revelations that IRS agents gave “special scrutiny” to organizations opposed to the current administration’s policies suggest that many in the IRS still believe harassing the President’s opponents is part of their job.
As troubling as these recent reports are, it would be a grave mistake to think that IRS harassment of opponents of the incumbent President is a modern, or a partisan, phenomenon. As scholar Burton Folsom pointed out in his book New Deal or Raw Deal, IRS agents in the 1930s where essentially “hit squads” against opponents of the New Deal. It is well-known that the administrations of John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson used the IRS to silence their critics. One of the articles of impeachment drawn up against Richard Nixon dealt with his use of the IRS to harass his political enemies. Allegations of IRS abuses were common during the Clinton administration, and just this week some of the current administration’s defenders recalled that antiwar and progressive groups alleged harassment by the IRS during the Bush presidency.
The bipartisan tradition of using the IRS as a tool to harass political opponents suggests that the problem is deeper than just a few “rogue” IRS agents—or even corruption within one, two, three or many administrations. Instead, the problem lays in the extraordinary power the tax system grants the IRS.
The IRS routinely obtains information about how we earn a living, what investments we make, what we spend on ourselves and our families, and even what charitable and religious organizations we support. Starting next year, the IRS will be collecting personally identifiable health insurance information in order to ensure we are complying with Obamacare’s mandates.
The current tax laws even give the IRS power to marginalize any educational, political, or even religious organizations whose goals, beliefs, and values are not favored by the current regime by denying those organizations “tax-free” status. This is the root of the latest scandal involving the IRS.
Considering the type of power the IRS excises over the American people, and the propensity of those who hold power to violate liberty, it is surprising we do not hear about more cases of politically-motivated IRS harassment. As the first US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said, “The power to tax is the power to destroy” — and who better to destroy than one’s political enemies?
The US flourished for over 120 years without an income tax, and our liberty and prosperity will only benefit from getting rid of the current tax system. The federal government will get along just fine without its immoral claim on the fruits of our labor, particularly if the elimination of federal income taxes are accompanied by serious reduction in all areas of spending, starting with the military spending beloved by so many who claim to be opponents of high taxes and big government.
While it is important for Congress to investigate the most recent scandal and ensure all involved are held accountable, we cannot pretend that the problem is a few bad actors. The very purpose of the IRS is to transfer wealth from one group to another while violating our liberties in the process, thus the only way Congress can protect our freedoms is to repeal the income tax and shutter the doors of the IRS once and for all.
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Phone rentokil Remus,
Makes you wonder though eh? What in fucks name have you or I got to say about slaves 200 years ago? I wasnt there, I didnt do it and I certainly dont condone it, but can you blame me or anyone else in these times?
Fucking idiots will be the end of themselves.
You might have a good definition of stupid but your post is the prime example of it.
Because you started your post with a qoute I can't down arrow you, so here it is!
-100
I'm not republican I'm not democrat and your post is full of lies and wrong in so many ways Let people be free and shirk off this oppressive government that you trust to do that right thing with other people's money. Why should my income be taxed at all?
Who let all the commies out this morning???
The IRS must be their deity.
There is a desperate fear out there that the American people might stop volunteering to pay income tax. It was the second most common comment Friday at the hearing. Praising the hard working employees of the IRS was the most common comment.
Well, that's what corrupt politicians would say.
If somebody found the tax guys' houses and burned them down during the night (with them in the house), I am sure a lot of people would, sadly, rejoice at such a barabaric act.
Yes, barabaric, and wrong it would be. They should be allowed to steal anything they want from you.
How to vote on post starting with a quote:
'It's true that the IRS is there to redistribute the wealth - but that's a good thing!' /sarc
"It's also interesting to watch people call for changes which will adversely impact them without any benefits - I believe this is the definition of 'stupid'."
Yep..like PT Barnum said there's a 'wrtingsonthewall" born every minute.
"Woe to him who teaches men faster than they can learn" - Will Durant.
I lol when I read about Bill Maher's re-labeling this intimidation/harassment stating that it makes sense to scrutinize anti-tax movements. Watch as they re-package/re-rename their blantant misuse of power into something else.
Notice how the AP story has disappeared.
Do not call these libertarians or progressive, by definition they are not. Call them what they are; Authoritarians.
I prefer Statists.
How can you lump Libertarians in with them ?
typo I meant liberal
I prefer Statists.
How can you lump Libertarians in with them ?
I prefer Fascists
They are progressive jihadists. They are warring against productive Americans and the American Constitutional Republic.
STARVE THE BEAST!!!
Again;
" Ron Paul: The Best President America Never Had"
Why do we even pay tax if they just fucking print money anyway? STOP FATCA.
The taxes you pay the feds are used to destroy the American Republic.
The FED and its collection thugs, the IRS is the institution that the Babylonians have been using for 100 years to destroy America!!!
Educate yourself. Grow some balls!....or continue to destroy the lives of your own children and grandchildren.
STARVE THE BEAST!!!
Get Off The Grid Guys!
(as much as you can financially).
I do not think they tax barter yet.
I began using Cash too, for all transactions.
Your light is bright Hoot!
Thank you for speaking your truth to power.
July 4, 2013. Everyone at midnight lets all take our 12 guage shotguns and blow em off promptly at midnight. No not up so that they can hurt anyone but straight into the ground towards hell the government and central bankers are taking us. All at once. Let them HEAR the power of 300Million plus weapon discharged at one time towards he US Government, their banking cartels, their Federal Reserve, their faggot IRS agents. I think if they hear the sound of 300Million plus discharges they will understand that we have had enough. Who is in? Lets let them know how worthless their Natl Guard would be against 300Million weapons discharged at one time. Here Here for LIberty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe its time we signed another Document pledging Our Lives and Sacred Honor.
Maybe the King's men need to see the business end of a 45-70 government.
Heck, everyone out here is always shooting something or another.
Granny says, BRING IT ON!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--K3X6rptE4
Did anyone catch this: http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/20/obama-and-the-irs-the-smoking
Seems that White House visitor logs have the head of the openly anti-Tea Party IRS employees union cranking up the heat on Tea Party groups only AFTER visiting the White House.
More shit in the pot. hujel
Cui bono ?
Good article over on Veterans today positing AIPAC being behind Obozo's
criminality being exposed.Timing looks right.
There are no coincidences in politics sic FDR
Hello WC.
Can you please provide a link?
As usual RON PAUL IS FULL OF EXTREMIST BS... like his wild son RAND.
Anyone with a brain and balanced thought knows the IRS MUST scrutinize EVERY application for Tax Exemot 501
Why? DUH!!!! So we the taxpayers do not give our taxdollars to fakes who are 100% political.
Yeah our taxes pay salaries of angry white people who want to tea party on our dime.
Welfare for extremists.
Its a crime if IRS allows fakes to get tax exempt status...but Old RON IGNORES THE LAW!
where to begin...
begin with "Dear Village Idiot..."
You know nothing about his platforms
My two year old could school you.
RON PAUL IS FULL OF EXTREMIST BS...
Same extreamist BS that the people who founded this country started with
Cynical partisan shill.
W had done this to George Soros and his tax exempt shell shell corporations like CAP, Media Matters, Organizing for Obama you'd be spewing spittle on your monitor.
LOL
Trillions in debt and we want to waste time discussing the possibility that they might abolish the IRS? Even if they did they would tax the hell out of something else to the crippling point. WW3 is more likely.
Ron Paul - the best President that never held office.
I was going to start a small business but when I looked at the taxes and regulations I thought: Why waste my time?
Intimidation and coercion are in the gov gameplan.
E.g. Plead guilty or be convicted of any crime, then incarceration for over 30 days and you and your family lose your Social Security benefits as long as you are in jail/prison..
The threat of this action causes many elderly protesters, whistleblowers and those falsely accused refuse to take their case to court.
Yet Unions and Church have a non profit exempt status...
How powerful is the IRS?
Look what happened to ex-Congressman George Hansen in 1984, after he went after the IRS?
http://www.constitution.org/ghansen/conghansen.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
France taxing some citizens now 100%. That would make them slaves. We can save 15BB a year shutting down the IRS and making those slobs work for a living. 15% flat tax all Americans and illegals pay. No dedcutions for anyone including mortgages and charities.
"The IRS’s Job Is To Violate Our Liberties"Well said Ronnie
I watched a CNBC program (propaganda piece) where an IRS agent was talking about tax "cheats" ...dodgers in other words, and who can blaim them wanting to cling onto their hard earned property to see it pissed away by the complete cretins and village idiots of society in Govt
Never has there been a bigger collection of theiving human scum on earth than the destructive bully boy thugs of Govt Tax Depts. The unproductive (parasites) of the public sector wrapping theft from the private (productive) sector in moral shite.. you couldn't get more pathalogically deranged than these criminals
All Tax is Theft. Period.
The State is the economic exploitation of one class by another
Our Enemy, the State
http://mises.org/etexts/ourenemy.pdf
well said Floody
the penny is gonna drop for most people soon, maybe not soon enough to save the majority from the hell the Govt has built
Sigh. RP continues his simplistic view of economics and taxes. Riddle me this RP. Does Warren Buffet have 50 Bil becuase he worked 500,000 times harder than the average citizen? Or are there 50 million people that are $1000 poorer because of him?
While capitalism is the best system, it still randomly redistributes wealth from many to few--thus, graduated income tax scales.
Definitely some IRS buffonery going on, but it doesn't exactly mean we need to abolish taxes.
Au, Ag paper , straight up . News ???
Dead cat bounce Hulk
Jim Sinclair called "bottom" last week ...this week he's wrapped himself in puppies to cosset himself from yet another bad, bad call ...he said last year he won't be calling the markets any longer, he should have shut up then
Puppy or dead cat anyone?
28th Amendment (The Constitutional Emergency Amendment)
Corporations are not persons and shall be granted only those rights and privileges that Congress deems necessary for the well-being of the People. Congress shall provide legislation defining the terms and conditions of corporate charters according to their purpose; which shall include, but are not limited to:
1, prohibitions against any corporation;
a, owning another corporation,
b, becoming economically indispensable or monopolistic, or
c, otherwise distorting the general economy;
2, prohibitions against any form of intervention in the affairs of government by means of;
a, congressional lobbying
b, electoral sponsorship or advocacy
c, educational sponsorship or publication
d, media news reporting
3, provisions for;
a, the auditing of standardized, current, and transparent account books
b, closing the FRB and the establishment of state-owned banks
c, civil and criminal penalties to be suffered by corporate executives et al for violation of the terms of a corporate charter.
Optional: (or possible 29th amendment)
The 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution is hereby repealed and Congress shall re-write the U.S. Code to reflect the changes embodied herein.
Which Constitution do you propose to amend? The original Constitution of 1787 or the corporate charter CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES of 1871?
Dr Paul, you have been a personal hero and an inspiration for success. I salute you sir.
Give it up Zola, there's never been a good cretin, sorry politician, in human history
Ron Paul advocates free markets and a free society yet passes Laws and Regulations that are its suffocation
You should know by now all politicians mount the pulpit of self-santification and upon climbing down from their moral high ground immediately shoot themselves in the foot/arse/ego (delete as you see appropriate)
The South was right!
what a tragic missed opportunity for America regarding Ron Paul, I don't know how much progress the man could have made in such a systemically corrupt, rotten system but damn I would have loved to find out. at the very least he may have been able to force uncle Benny into taking up residence in a room with a padded cell whilst downing a case of pepto a day due to the permanent ulcer.
that alone would have been worth the price of admission.
sadly nothing will come of this, some fake indignation and maybe a few mid level players will get shuffled around a bit. but the top tier party members who use the IRS as a political hit squad are bullet proof, as has been proven over and over and over again. I mean if the fact that they have spent billions of dollars, tax payer dollars, supporting those very same "terrorists" whom we will spend hundreds of billions more and a lot of blood fighting against over another 20 years doesn't get the American public looking for heads, then nothing will.
the public is to comfortable living in serfdom and economic slavery.
to involved in distractions that don't matter, to entertained by instant access, always on and 300 channels of bread and circus. five second flash "news" headlines which give you your daily does of social engineering.
to strung out on big farma prescription poison that destroys the mind and body, soft kill straight from a doctors script.
to addicted to to accumulating wealth that's not real, buying stuff that serves no purpose other than to be discarded to buy another. mcmansions where the bank is your land lord and the state owns the piece of dirt it sits on and charges you for the privilege of squatting on it. in America you don't own anything you can't hold in your hand or store in a safe. no, you don't "own" that 30k status symbol on wheels the bank does, and the irony is by the time you do, if you make to the end of that 90 month loan at 50% interest, you will have paid three times the asking price and the bank will have made a ton of money. while you will be left with a chunk of steel and plastic that isn't worth the down payment you made on it in the first place.
to ok with being treated like criminals and cattle just for walking into an airport and attempting to board a plane. get into a TSA boarding line and you are guilty until proven innocent. wasn't one of the hallmarks of the great experiment, one fundamentals of self government and a free society the ability to travel free of government, central authority harassment? papers please...
in short the American public is to addicted to the illusion of freedom and prosperity, to dulled by synthetic poison and frankenfood, to dependent on their socially engineered lifestyle to dissolve the political bonds and start over.
because after all, that would mean they would have to give up everything they don't really have.
Most American conservatives hate Ron Paul. Ron Paul is exactly what they always claim to want -- freedom from tyranny, property rights, adherence to the Constitution, states' rights -- but they shat on him. American conservatives only conserve advances made by the Left/Liberals. They are Left/Liberals' rear guard.
July 4, 2013. Everyone at midnight lets all take our 12 guage shotguns and blow em off promptly at midnight. No not up so that they can hurt anyone but straight into the ground towards hell the government and central bankers are taking us. All at once. Let them HEAR the power of 300Million plus weapon discharged at one time towards he US Government, their banking cartels, their Federal Reserve, their faggot IRS agents. I think if they hear the sound of 300Million plus discharges they will understand that we have had enough. Who is in? Lets let them know how worthless their Natl Guard would be against 300Million weapons discharged at one time. Here Here for LIberty
July 4, 2013. Everyone at midnight lets all take our 12 guage shotguns and blow em off promptly at midnight. No not up so that they can hurt anyone but straight into the ground towards hell the government and central bankers are taking us. All at once. Let them HEAR the power of 300Million plus weapon discharged at one time towards he US Government, their banking cartels, their Federal Reserve, their faggot IRS agents. I think if they hear the sound of 300Million plus discharges they will understand that we have had enough. Who is in? Lets let them know how worthless their Natl Guard would be against 300Million weapons discharged at one time. Here Here for LIberty
Can someone please prove this information wrong:
The IRS is a non government agency just like the FED and is incorporated in Puerto Rico.
The IRS is a registered company with the SEC.
There is no Federal law requiring people to pay tax, it's voluntary.
The "income tax" is illegal by definition alone that stats only profit from income may be taxed not income itself.
Gee, if that is true, then the guys who come to your house or business are impersonating "officers" with their "badges."
Sounds like armed robbery to me.
Shoot to kill! Then shoot again!
Sometimes I wonder how diligent they would be if they came to work and found a few agents' heads on a pike.
Just Kidding.
I aleways voluntarily overpay my vig.
If the government took 100% of your earnings, it would be theft. At what % is it not theft ?
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We'll always have trouble getting the message out when you have unrepentant, lying assclowns like this spewing all manner of economic bullshit they can. And there's hundreds more just like 'em.
http://www.logarchism.com/2013/05/15/time-for-a-little-more-rr/#comments
Income tax should be at state level only. Decentralization improve democracy and make government more competitive and accountable.
What do we do about thing that are country wide. The military, interstate road system, interstate crime, etc. etc. What if Idaho decided to dumper all it garbage in the snake river and washington farming suffers? My point isn't that there isn't waste in the Federal Gov, just that it does serve a purpose.
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I was told that voting Democratic would prevent this kind of thing. : (
Surprise!
"The IRS’s Job Is To Violate Our Liberties"
Then get rid of them; use imaginative techniques, but don't be "illegal," no no no.
Bottom line is Congress, (the House) can shut down ALL this crap immediately.Defund them ALL,problem solved.
Just read the definitions in the IRC. "If" you are an "employee" and you work for an "employer", earning "wages" as defined, pay the tax. Read and be free Americans, the definitions do not apply to most of you.
Taxtown, Nebraska PSA : "He's not heavy .... he's my IRS compliance officer !" !
Gordon Kahl also found out how powerful the IRS was in the 1980's.
http://www.constitution.org/abus/gkahl/kahl.htm
anti-Semitic... funny thing. A word to generalize anyone who questions anything a person of Jewish faith does or says. It's almost like the word was created by an "intelligence" agency. I know.. I know... I'm a conspiracy theorists.
Funny, Palestinians are Semities. So, I always wondered how do you call someone you supports a Palestinian state anti-Semetic?
Anti-Zionist is more appropriate.
The last Statesman.