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IRS' Lois Lerner To Plead The Fifth Before House Oversight Committee

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For an affair that numerous media outlets will have you believe has been spun out of all proportion, and that it really is the conservatives fault that the IRS was targeting them, it is somewhat ironic that the IRS official who opened up the entire Pandora's box with her targeted apology two weeks ago, and who learned in 2011 about the improper targeting of political groups yet lied under oath to Congress to the contrary, has decided to plead the Fifth and will invoke her right not to testify on Wednesday for fear of self-incrimination, according to her lawyer. But this would mean that... she may have something to hide? And that would be rather problematic for the media's spin cycle, although we are confident it will take just a few minutes of deep though in the proper channels, before this all too overt admission of guilt is somehow spun as the IRS being the unwitting targets of an aggressive McCarthyesque campaign seeking to discredit the government's impartial tax collector whose only noble purpose is to enable the government to get even bigger.

From the LA Times:

Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening — or why she didn’t disclose it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor III. Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday.

 

“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” said a letter by Taylor to committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Vista). The letter, sent Monday, was obtained Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times.

Perhaps she could clarify what circumstances those are: maybe the same ones that forced her to bow out of the Western New England Law School commencement speech?

Taylor, a criminal defense attorney from the Washington firm Zuckerman Spaeder, said that the Department of Justice has launched a criminal investigation, and that the House committee has asked Lerner to explain why she provided “false or misleading information” to the committee four times last year.

 

Since Lerner won’t answer questions, Taylor asked that she be excused from appearing, saying that would “have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her.” There was no immediate word whether the committee will grant her request.

Wait, criminal investigation? Does this mean that the administration will offer yet another deferred-prosecution deal whose terms will involve harsh mandatory lifetime pensions and onerous full benefits upon retirement?  Surely not even a corrupt, co-opted, drenched in scandals administration is that inhumane.

And on that note, we leave you with...

 

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Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:55 | 3585634 muleskinner
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Lumber is cheap, so burning her at the stake is the only option.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:59 | 3585643 autofixer
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Or building a guillotine.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 21:04 | 3586201 erg
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Or a trebuchet.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:58 | 3585641 FishHockers
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Big Job waiting for her at JPM

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:07 | 3585662 Zero Govt
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..or any State-aided fleecing machine ...a lessor known sector is the Insurance Industry, enforced by criminal Law to insure this (car) or that (healthcare) ....great money-for-nothing extortion racket aided by Law that goes un-noticed by each and every public representative (cough)

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:28 | 3585959 azzhatter
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she'll go from sucking obama's blacksnake to sucking on jamie's whitesnake

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:59 | 3585644 cheetahbaby
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She walks. She reminds the older committee members of a sorority size queen from the 60's. "Damn girl, you cleaned up good.". CB

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:00 | 3585648 Seize Mars
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The "starve the beast" argument doesn't really hold water. This is like saying throwing ourselves into the woodchipper will clog it up, thus stopping it. If you try to avoid paying taxes they will beat you and put you in a fucking cage, ask Irwin Schiff. BTW everything he said in his defense was correct, it didn't matter.

Let's face it. The real solutions are not being talked about.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:09 | 3585681 XitSam
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If everyone stopped paying taxes, wouldn't they just increase the printer speed?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:45 | 3585766 The Thunder Child
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Irwin Schiff went it alone years too early and was railroaded for it, a nationwide tax revolt is the only way to end this corruption and this is the ammo that the US populus needs to begin such an action.

The money the IRS collects only has one purpose to pay the interest on the debt that you were scammed into by bankers, it does not go towards any other item on the budget, it pays the interest thats it! You never had any input into budgets, you did not vote on the Federal Reserve Act in 1913, you vote once every 4 years in a rigged election and somehow you are responsible for hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt you had no part in?

You were born into a system of slavery and it is your right to fight back. I am suprised that soo many people upvoted your comment....Flacon has it right in the first post 30 and 0 as of this post.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:26 | 3590204 Seize Mars
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Correct.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:00 | 3585649 PGR88
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Want all your Constitutional rights back?   Want to end big, intrusive Government?

Simply shut down the Federal Reserve.  Fiat money and printing is the source of all of this, and 1000 social ills as well.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:00 | 3585650 Zero Govt
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"..we are confident it will take just a few minutes of deep though.."

did you mean deep throat ...or deep thought??

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:06 | 3585671 Shevva
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Easiest way to defeat a modern enemy is to remove it's resources.

Communism was always a bankers nightmare until they realised it could be used to control the masses while making yourself rich, see: Oligarchs,

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:08 | 3585677 TheSilverJournal
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Big government goes out of their way to penalize those who speak out against big government...never would've imagined.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:09 | 3585678 Yen Cross
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       Lois Lerner might as well just sign up for that one way mission to Mars. That woman will never be able to go out in public again. She has a bulls eye bigger than the Hindenburg on her for life.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:27 | 3585721 caliberfivezero
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And rightfully so!  Who besides a pediphile could possibly be reviled more than someone who would assist the IRS receive absolution?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:07 | 3585871 Things that go bump
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You should see what happens at a party when someone says they work for the IRS. A complete and total silence falls on those present. Everyone stares. The IRS employee, realizing they've committed social seppuku, starts squirming and babbling about how they only answer phones.   

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:10 | 3585683 Conax
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Since she intends to 'take the 5th' and won't answer questions, her counsel asks that she not have to trouble herself to come in to refuse the questions, because she is perfectly innocent.

Maybe they can lure her in with a placard that says, "The Honorable Lois Loser"

It would put her at ease.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:11 | 3585690 caliberfivezero
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Solution:  Isolate the statements made under oath that contain inconsistencies and charge her with purjury, which can be proven if someone were to really behold the interest of the American Taxpayer (The IRS' Annual Victims).  Nothing will come of this, who in their right mind will be willing to commit literal suicide by taking on one of the enablers of the American Government growth machine?  The only way to defend against this sort of tyranny is for the masses to actually do something besides watch a bunch of overpaid miscreants playing professional sports, play XBOX, go to the movies and watch the same story told 3000 different ways, or jerk off!  The party is over................

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:13 | 3585692 Fix It Again Timmy
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Taxes are nothing more than armed robbery, theft by force...

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:15 | 3585700 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Charge her with something criminal, she'll start yapping real quickly.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:38 | 3585771 strayaway
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No, just let her plead the Fifth a few times for the evening news and then carry on a conversation with her about why she approved the application of the Barack H. Obama Foundation so promptly. What was so special about its application?  The Barack H. Obama Foundation is run by Abon’go Malik Obama, the half-brother of Barack Obama a citizen of Kenya with three wives. This Foundation doesn't seem to have a physical presence at its given address. It would be instructive to find out where the foundation gets its money and distributes it. Or Ms. Lerner could be asked about if she thinks taking the Fifth regarding her tenure at the IRS will affect her new work administering obamacare.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:25 | 3585728 Yancey Ward
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The Obama Administration is right now trying to find her a sinecure to flee to.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:26 | 3585734 22winmag
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What do you call 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

 

Anyone?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:29 | 3585742 caliberfivezero
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Your best CHUM!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:35 | 3585763 StarTedStackin'
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a good start!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 08:21 | 3587127 22winmag
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We have a winner!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:59 | 3585840 Yancey Ward
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Too few?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 01:37 | 3586763 AKrandy
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Shark repellant?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 01:38 | 3586764 AKrandy
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Lower than whale shit?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:28 | 3585739 kill switch
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Another thought

Fred Reed,,,Why Not?

I have decided to take the government of the United States in hand and put it on a more practical footing. (Care from hand to foot is policy in this column.) I say “more practical,” instead of “practical,” because government always falls into the hands of the crafty, remorseless, and unprincipled. Anyway, I undertake this emendation in a radiant spirit of noblesse oblige. I am that sort of person.

To begin: The country desperately needs to embrace an uncompromising elitism, this being simply the belief that the better is preferable to the worse. Somehow America has gotten this simple principle (if I may employ the Latin phrase) bass-ackward. In the things of civilization, we worship the lame, the halt, the dim-witted, and the proven unable. How smart is this?

In correction, I will first raise the voting age to thirty. The present practice of allowing children of eighteen to wield the ballot is transparent madness. The excessively young are callow, uninformed, and lacking experience of the things they affect with the votes. Hormonal turbulence and an eigtht-grade education—about what a high-school diploma is worth these days—do not recommend them as fit to stir the pots of governance. If you are parent to teenagers, you will see the unwisdom of letting our tender sprouts decide anything beyond their choice of godawful music.

When the Teen-Vote Amendment was being pondered, the argument was made that since eighteen years was sufficient to die in Vietnam, it was sufficient for suffrage. This is like saying that because a five-year-old can die in a traffic accident, he should have a driver’s license. Youth is a serviceable substitute for stupidity. We regularly outgrow youth and, occasionally, stupidity. We should give future voters the chance.

By the age of thirty, most people have experience of life as it is actually lived, perhaps of parenthood, of making a living and of the shocks the flesh is heir to. I grant that my laudable policy runs against the cult of brainless youth which is thought the apotheosis of democracy. Good. This opposition constitutes near-perfect proof of its advisability.  As a rule, any idea that you cannot utter without losing your job is a good idea.

My second contribution to enlightened government will be to reinstate the literacy test as a requirement for voting. It is not evident why an inability to read qualifies one to influence policy regarding, war, schooling, and the intricacies of national finance. The situation is dire. In Detroit, for example, the rate of functional illiteracy has been measured at some fifty percent. If half of the population cannot read at all, most of the rest don’t read much. In most cases this will mean never having willingly read a book. I don’t want these running a country. Or a car wash.

The objection will be raised that to require literacy will be to disenfranchise various minorities. The solution is for the various minorities to learn to read.

However, in my humble (but infallible) opinion, the bare ability to read is hardly grounds for participation in government. For that matter, neither is the possession of an alleged college education. Survey after survey has shown that, with exceptions to be sure, college graduates do not know in what century the Civil War was fought or what countries engaged in World War One, cannot name the three departments of the federal government, list three cities in Mexico, or find Japan, or for that matter Africa, on an outline map of the world. The universities in America have become a profitable fraud, and should be prosecuted under the RICO act. (I will consider this happy prospect in a future column.)

My solution to this measureless ignorance will be to require potential voters to sit for the Graduate Record Exam and score modestly on it. Why is it thought that people who hardly know what they are voting about will do it wisely? I repeatedly see that about half of the public believes that Iraq was responsible for dropping those buildings in New York. Here we have categorical proof that half the population should not be allowed within rifle shot of a voting booth.

Actually, while spilling forth these my luminous policies, the thought comes that it might be reasonable to limit the franchise of those of IQ 130 or higher: roughly Mensa intelligence, the top two percent. This will outrage those of us who do not meet this standard. But why? If I need brain surgery, I want it done by someone who can do it better than I could do it myself. Why should this principle not apply to government? Do we not hire plumbers because they plumb better than we do?

Registration of voters by IQ  strikes me as a good idea if only for its value as amusement. Think what it would do for campaigns. No longer would election be possible by orating endlessly of The American People, and The American Dream, twelve times per teleprompter screen. I love to imagine: “Yes, Mr. Bush. You are against evil, doubtless because it is a very short word. But what consequences do you see of de-Baathification in light of the doctrinal divides of the eighth century?”

Now, the US being a profoundly anti-intellectual society, my admirable plan will be objected to on grounds that Americans don’t want to be ruled by pointy-headed intellectuals at Harvard. Let us think about this. An intellectual is one who deals in ideas. He is not necessarily of high intelligence, nor necessarily right. The majority of the highly intelligent aren’t intellectuals, and they are not clustered in ivory towers. They are doctors, engineers, scientists, soldiers, and businessmen. They are geographically dispersed and politically all over the map. And they would be a hell of a lot harder to herd by the imbecile-ranchers and con men of Washington.

Of course the distaste for intellectuals means distaste only for those intellectuals with whom one disagrees. Conservatives love Rush Limbaugh and detest Rachel Madow, while liberals take exactly the opposite position. Both Limbaugh and Madow are intellectuals.

However, a major current in American political life is resentment of one’s superiors. It isn’t universal, but it’s there. Thus the whole edifice of fiat egalitarianism: the insistence that all children should go to college when most haven’t the brains, putting students in advanced-placement courses on grounds of race and sex instead of ability, the desire to abolish grades, the insistence that intelligence doesn’t exist and that all people and groups have the same amount of it. Me, I’m happy to let those smarter than I am invent things for me. If the world had waited for me to come up with Newtonian mechanics, it would still be waiting.

There you have my plans. I expect outpourings of gratitude from a nation jubilant at its deliverance. These can take the form of large checks. I’d like a Maserati, too.

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 20:19 | 3586094 Herd Redirectio...
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They already buy 50% of the populations votes, who is to say that if only 2% can vote they won't buy all those votes as well?   But it is true, reforming the nation/world starts with K-12 education, and media reform.  If you ask a teacher right now, they will tell you there isn't enough time between Kindergarten and Grade 12 to teach students anything more than currently.  Meaning, in their opinion, there is no way they can do their present English and Social Studies as well as learning real economic and political history.

And the teachers know the curriculum well, but they don't know jack beyond the curriculum!

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:29 | 3585743 WhiteWolf
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Hey, I used to volunteer at the local detention center.  A great place for her.  they have tape measures for the broomsticks that they rate the new prisoners?  Wanna bet she can certainly get a higher number than Obama gave her.  Of course it will cost Barak a bit of money to keep her locall.   Haaahahaa

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:32 | 3585750 Chupacabra-322
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Recently there have been predictions in the Alt Media world that a new ‘false flag’ or similar device to distract the public is coming in light of the heat being put on the president due to Benghazi.

Could this IRS scandal simply be that? A ‘not quite as damaging’ expose that makes the gov’t look bad but nothing like a stand-down that leaves a US diplomat and others dead in Benghazi.

When I talk to regular sheeple no one seems to have any clue about Benghazi, but the IRS scandal is up there. There are many ways to distract the sheeple.

This OK twister news must be music to the executive branch ears. More grandstanding about how much we are helping the sheeple.

Honestly, I don't care what Soetoro/Obama, whoever he is, is an expert of covering up. He has covered up his real identity, his Birth Certificate, his real father, his crack using, heavy pot-smoking past, his affinity for gay bath houses, the Libyan fiasco, the truth about the “killing” of Bin Laden an so on. This would just be another thing, but I think the public is wising up and getting just a little tired of the crap.

“I don’t/didn’t know” ain’t gonna fly anymore. Watch the rats squirm, the weasels run, the vermin hide.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:54 | 3585818 DeadFred
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Joe Six-pack doesn't care how many of Obama's close gay friends died suddenly when he decided to run for the Senate. They do care about paying taxes, at least the ones who do pay taxes.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:34 | 3585756 StarTedStackin'
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Another lying cunt communist supprter of the Obowel Movement......is she a lesbian also?

 

 

I see a pattern here......Janet, Hillary.....

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:34 | 3585759 vegas
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There isn't a hole deep enough in hell to put these scumbags. They routinely here people all the time take the "fifth", and then smirk with indignation for the average Joe asserting his constitutional right. How does it feel to be squirming and paying out your net worth for lawyers? Excuse me for enjoying this show.

 

http://vegasxau.blogspot.com

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:37 | 3585770 Quisat_Sadarak
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Long popcorn brotha.

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:35 | 3585762 stant
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we are in a cold civil war now. gona go hot soon

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:39 | 3585780 Blues Traveler
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You ride with an outlaw you die with an outlaw

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:40 | 3585783 N57Mike
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Would someone please roll back the tape to Mark Faber from late last year after the election ...he predicted this administration would not serve out it's term, due to scandal.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:41 | 3585784 therearetoomany...
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Sloppy, smelling of dead mackeral, cunt. 

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:46 | 3585793 Wanton1
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Truth is anti-semitic.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 21:06 | 3586207 giddy
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...bingo...

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:49 | 3585802 fatman51
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if you were her, you would be doing the same thing even if you had nothing to hide. There are too many people who desperately want to blow this up into a huge scandal. Your words can be easily twisted into a charge of obstruction of something or other. By the time you are finished defending yourself, you may very well be ruined. By that time incidentally, all the vultures will move to the next scandal.

This can be said without defending irs as an institution, or liking obama, or whatever else. She is simply getting good legal advice.

Experienced lawyers or former law enforcement will tell you that in serious situations, such as this one, you should never talk to police just because yout think "you have nothing to hide"

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:57 | 3585837 vegas
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First thing we do is kill all the lawyers.

Henry 5 by Bill S.

 

http://vegasxau.blogspot.com

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 21:37 | 3586279 Lost Word
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Henry V, by Sir Francis Bacon, secret son and top lawyer for Queen Elizabeth, aka "Shakespeare".

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:49 | 3585803 fatman51
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if you were her, you would be doing the same thing even if you had nothing to hide. There are too many people who desperately want to blow this up into a huge scandal. Your words can be easily twisted into a charge of obstruction of something or other. By the time you are finished defending yourself, you may very well be ruined. By that time incidentally, all the vultures will move to the next scandal.

This can be said without defending irs as an institution, or liking obama, or whatever else. She is simply getting good legal advice.

Experienced lawyers or former law enforcement will tell you that in serious situations, such as this one, you should never talk to police just because yout think "you have nothing to hide"

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:54 | 3585820 notadouche
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There appears to be just as many, if not more people that would like to just conveniently sweep this under the rug as if nothing happened.  Public officials don't rush to apologize if there was not something to apologize for.  I would suggest you look up the term "cognitive dissonance".  

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:15 | 3585906 forwardho
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There are too many people who desperately want to blow this up into a huge scandal.

Fatboy, got news for you, this is a fucking huge Scandal. The United States Government silenced opposition to a sitting president using the IRS.

The Constitution has been assfucked by the very Govt it was put in place to control.

Our whole system of Govt was put in place to ensure that the shit heels in power could not repress the people.

REMEMBER: For the people, Of the people, By the people??? That mean anything to anyone out there?

The mockery that the current admin is making of this greavous infraction is revolting, the false premiss of "when potus knew what" is irrelevent. He was at the helm as the head of the executive branch when said branch took a blowtorch to the values we hold dear. The head is responsible for the actions of the body, not some hapless bystander.

Scandal, It is so very, very much more than that.

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:16 | 3585911 Catullus
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Then quit your job. I mean, if you don't want to answer questions about decisions you made and the actions taken in a official position, quit. Why should you continue to be employed if you don't want to cooperate in an investigation?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:36 | 3585980 azzhatter
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Fuck you chubby boy, this is a huge fucking deal. We pay her fucking salary and the rest of these corrupt assholes. She is helping to destroy my country, that's a huge fucking deal.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:51 | 3585806 notadouche
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Boy it would be a shame if a government employee asked to testify before congress in answer to the american people would have to actually show up because heaven forbid she would be embarrassed by going through the process any non eilite would most assuredly have to endure.  In fact I'm not sure it's appropriate for an employee of the US government, working for the people of the US, should be allowed to do anything other than answer the questions put forth by congress.  When you take a job working for the people the standards should actually be raised, not lowered.  Odd how it's actually the opposite.  The CEO's didn't even get that red carpet treatment and embarrassment is about the only "justice" afforded for the people.  Now they can't even be bothered for that.  Wow it really is good to be the King or one of the king's men/women.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:52 | 3585814 roadlust
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"Targeting Conservative groups???"  If making a half hearted effort at verifying the non-profit status of a handful of trailer trash goofballs that want federal tax emempt status, is "targeting" conservatives, I wonder what it would be called if they actually had the audacity to audit one of these fly by night "tea party" operations?  Gasp!  Probably some sort of Hitlerian holocaust against "Real White America."

Of course Obama's been the black Hilter to this crowd since before he was elected, so wake us back up when these paranoid wingnuts find a new meme to run around screaming after every Earth rotation. 

What's the word for having one's worst delusions almost sound "truthy" to the average low info American?  (Hint:  we're not even at that low bar yet.)

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:07 | 3585874 StarTedStackin'
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ever post w/o lying and namecalling?

 

 

P.S.

 

 

 

What HASN'T Obama lied about?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:21 | 3585921 FleaMarketPete
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You go girl.  SNL told me all I need to know about this made up conspiracy during the Weekend Update.  Jon Stewart has since affirmed this right wing side show.  It's about time PRESIDENT Black Hitler momentary take his laser like focus off wellfare creation and teach these angry white people what shuckin and jivin is really all about.

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 03:59 | 3586851 Tenshin Headache
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Please, also share the content of your dreams.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:52 | 3585815 Common_Cents22
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CONgress was going to throw the book at AAPL but nobody could pick up the IRS code, was too heavy.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:54 | 3585822 Fred123
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I'm getting very bullish on the rope industry.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:57 | 3585836 Zgangsta
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Invoking Fifth Amendment rights is an overt admission of guilt?

I expected better from Zero Hedge.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:04 | 3585865 notadouche
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According to Eric Schmidt of Google fame and the US Government if you have nothing to hide you shouldn't worry about the scrutiny of all manner of surveillance and privacy intrusion.  Likewise if you have nothing to hide and did nothing wrong then there is no need to take the 5th. If it's good enough for the ordinary citizen then it should be good enough for the government employee.   

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:08 | 3585884 StarTedStackin'
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Why else would the Obowel Movement, the most transparent in history.... want to cover up the truth?

 

 

For bonus points, or forever be known as a lying coward......What HASN'T the Obowel Movement lied about?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:18 | 3585919 Zgangsta
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I dont know, but you will have to do better than the absence of testimony for proof.

If you believe in Constitutional Rights, you have to defend ALL of them.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:29 | 3585936 StarTedStackin'
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So you'd attempt to defend a man who has lied about everything and who is destroying the Constitution and the Bill of Rights before our very eyes with the very same constitution he is destroying????

 

 

Sal Alinsky, Is that you?

 

 

Note: Please show me where I said I was against any of the Bill of Rights?

 

 

It is liars who feel the need to put words into the mouths of others.

 

 

You lose.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:04 | 3585867 dolph9
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This bitch owns you, bitchez.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:07 | 3585870 Joebloinvestor
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I hope they haul her ass in front of congress and CSPAN and any news agency that will cover the proceedings and MAKE HER TAKE THE FIFTH to every question they have.

The best example of an "apolitical" in the Obama administration.

Barry should save some face by firing her for not co-operating with congress.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:07 | 3585881 Catullus
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If you have a problem, talk to your congressman. And when they question me, I'll plead the 5th.

Oh, and you still must incriminate yourself on this audit.

Thank you. Have a nice day.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:13 | 3585900 Paracelsus
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Uh,Susan MacDougal?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:26 | 3585905 StarTedStackin'
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The IRS shenanigans are all to cover up the fact that the Obowel Movement sold stinger missiles to Al Qaida, and Ambassador Stevens was gang raped by the Al Qaida faction that he was sent to buy back the missiles from.

 

 

Now Al Qaida has the missiles, the cash, and about two hundred of them have a "warm memory" of what Ambassador Stevens *TORN, BLODDY*  rectum felt like.

 

 

 

You know that after watching the drone footage, Obama masturbated and thought  of  Chandoo and Reggie Love, then went to bed to rest up for his Vegas fundraiser/Golf outing the following day.

 

 

Why on earth do you think the Obowel Movement planted the question that exposed the IRS scandal.

 

Even the dumbest of brain dead liberals will be able to figure out tha Obama giving Al Qaida Stinger missles was a bad idea.......especially after a few hundred (or thousand) Americans die from the Obowel Movement's latest terminal stupidity.....

 

 

 

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Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:45 | 3586010 Debt Slave
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Even the dumbest of brain dead liberals will be able to figure out tha Obama giving Al Qaida Stinger missles was a bad idea.

The same Obama who sold guns to ruthless savages south of the border and then demands alien amnesty and gun legislation on us.

You gotta be freekin kidding me. Who's writing his scripts?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 05:55 | 3586914 The Heart
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Sometimes people say the most amazing things. Thank you good sir for speaking YOUR truth.

Simply amazing to see truth in such elegant and simplistic form.

Soon, the world will get it and the hundredth monkey, no not the bio-bot one, but the real one will say enough is enough and the cleansing will begin.

Wonder what strings they will pull next since the invaders in Syria are getting their arses handed to them in pine boxes and the truth about all this corruption and crime is going public. Heck, according to some like Professor Black here, the fires of the congressional hearing are just getting warmed up. If it isn't all pompass grass, then it could be pretty interesting to see the corruptions come forth into public view. More and more inside people are really angry about all this govt waste like fusion centers, dhs, and the nazi gestapo programs, and now making the proper decisions to come forth to speak their truths to power. Give thanks. The giant house cleaning is about to begin.

Have a listen to good ol Greg Hunter interviewing Professor William Black here.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sxaPIekv0U

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:18 | 3585916 smacker
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hhmmm.

What I'd like to know is whether *she* was running a very politicised anti-Conservative tax racket _or_ just following orders. If so, from whom? This might be why she's chosen the Fifth...she judges it would be safer than suicide by two bullets in the head.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:25 | 3585947 Catullus
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Probably took her own initiative so that she'd get promoted or into a different division with more people and a bigger budget. It's really the mindset of the career, upwardly mobile bureaucrat. They think making the big wigs happy is an important thing.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:24 | 3585941 kchrisc
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Of course if she didn't invoke the 5th. we still would have known what her testimony would have been: lies, bullshit, more lies, obfuscation, damn lies, spin, and shit from a bull.   I think that that just about sums it up or did I miss anything?!
Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:41 | 3585991 lolmao500
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Will Obama plead the fifth too when the truth comes out?

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/mom-of-murdered-obama-...

Mom of Murdered Obama Gay Lover Speaks Up

All of this is real interesting...

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:51 | 3586029 monad
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If a tax payer pleads a blanket 5th the judge can deny it as frivolous, on the grounds that the defendant doesn't know what the questions are going to be.

Obama death list +1.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:54 | 3586036 caliberfivezero
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I just noticed, seems like the paper bag over the head gang like to word up or unnecessarily space up their comments to push the really relevant discourse to the second page or towards the bottom.  They seem to have an opinion on everything????  HMMMM????

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 22:53 | 3586444 monad
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4rth of July FleaMarketPete was blaming all the world's problems on us and demanding that we lavishly support him. He's getting better.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:59 | 3586051 EclecticParrot
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I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it might describe me.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 20:00 | 3586053 FleaMarketPete
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Lois Lerner appearing before Congress in blackface to plead the Fifth is extremely racist.  YOU WHITE PEOPLE JUST DON’T GET IT!

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 20:00 | 3586054 fuu
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"before this all too overt admission of guilt"

C'mon you're fucking lawyers.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 20:13 | 3586057 notadouche
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I suppose the Arkansas State Treasurer , Democrat Margaret Shoffner arrested by the FBI in a sting operation for taking "at least"  $36,000 in cash bribes shouldn't be embarrassed any further by submitting a plea, though she is expected to plead not guilty.  She did resign which Gov Beebe was good enough to accept as he stated he didn't think her department could function properly under her leadership at this point.  Really, the state treasurer taking bribes couldn't lead effectively?  Hard to believe.  Once again an employee of the people held to lesser standards than the ordinary citizen.  She could face 20 years in prison under the Hobbs Act but I'm betting her resignation will be considered punishement enough.  Resign but plead not guilty.  If your not guilty, why resign your post?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 20:06 | 3586064 kragsquest
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Get a six pack of a good IPA, and try not to think about this crap!  

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 20:18 | 3586092 Kirk2NCC1701
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She may have the right to take the 5th, but Congress has the right to charge her with Contempt:  "Go to Jail.  Go directly to Jail.  Do not pass the Fed printer." 

Congress does not lack the right to act, they lack the will to act.  Maybe they lack brains too -- if it's not election related.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 20:30 | 3586103 newengland
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I want this bitch in jail or financially ruined. No kudos. No money. The penalty for failure at the highest level.  Same for Corzine. Nothing less will suffice.

The old men of the BIS have lost their grip. Get a grip. Time to restore some order to the system or chaos will ensue and the old money will be lost along with the new. 

Make an example of this bitch and Corzine, old testament style. Stop humoring these overpaid, over fed  House cats.

There is no benefit for any state by allowing these creeps to profit for their failure while their actions undermine something much more important: confidence in better people, systems.

They failed. Punish them.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 20:36 | 3586130 Nehweh Gahnin
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Wait.  We still have a 5th Amendment?  I was thinking it had prolly gone the way of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th.

Oh, silly me.  CONgress still has contempt powers, huh?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 20:57 | 3586178 tony bonn
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the bitch isn't pleading the 5th to protect herself - although god only knows how guilty she is - but to protect the indonesian-in-chief.......onazi ordered the targeting pure and simple.....if he didn't order it, he would have gone into the irs like a hot knife through butter and fired scores of fellow nazi criminals....onazi is the patron satan of terrorists, and he will use any organ of government to advance his corrupt nazi agenda.....

amerika has brought this on herself through the love of lies, lucre, and lasciviousness

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 23:05 | 3586514 newengland
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If this bitch gets away with her  nazi ways, then the BIS loses big time. Corzine should be jailed too.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 21:42 | 3586296 sunnyside
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The next time someone here is audited by the IRS, send them a letter telling them that you are just going to plead the fifth and they really should drop it because it would just be a burden and embarrassing.

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 21:46 | 3586305 Walt D.
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I guess Eric Holder is not going to get his cojones transplant now that she is in charge of Obamacare!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 22:22 | 3586404 El Hosel
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Nice! This shit is getting good, finally. All the Presidents men and women one by one, revealed as career criminals of the highest order.

Hope and change Bitchez.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 22:16 | 3586388 monad
Tue, 05/21/2013 - 23:09 | 3586530 MrBoompi
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It really is the "conservatives fault" that the IRS was targeting them? Who the fuck has said that? And what was the result of this targeting? Nothing? And why have conservative douchebags like Karl Rove, the Kock Brothers, and Mitt "Cayman Trusts" Romney not been targeted? This whining by the right wing is really getting pathetic.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 03:09 | 3586824 GoldenDonuts
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MrBoompi Just wondering how you would feel if next president gets in a sicks the IRS on left wing douchebags such as yourself.  Surely even a dumbass like yourself can see the value of keeping something as powerful as this government department apolitical.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 23:44 | 3586604 newengland
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Jail this bitch.

She broke the law. Intimidated innocent people. Took money for her lifestyle from trusting taxpayers. 

Jail her for breaking the law.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 00:31 | 3586698 Dre4dwolf
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Now that the IRS has been exposed for the criminal enterprise that it is, we can finaly ditch this relic of an "institution" that serves no real purpose other than draining the wealth of the nation and dumping it abroad into the coffers of foreign bankers as if we are somehoe obligated to pay tribute to our "masters" as they would think themselves.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 03:05 | 3586822 GoldenDonuts
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I wonder if the underlings in her new gig are covering their ass a little.

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