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The Pentagon Admits: The "War On Terror" Will Never End
Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
It is hard to resist the conclusion that this war has no purpose other than its own eternal perpetuation. This war is not a means to any end but rather is the end in itself. Not only is it the end itself, but it is also its own fuel: it is precisely this endless war – justified in the name of stopping the threat of terrorism – that is the single greatest cause of that threat.
- Glenn Greenwald from his recent article: Washington Gets Explicit: Its “War on Terror” is Permanent
So last Thursday at a hearing held by the Senate Armed Services Committee, we found out what many of us already knew. That the “war on terror” is never going to end. Indeed, it was never supposed to end. This never-ending “war” on a fantastical enemy provides the American oligarch class with too much money and too much power to ever make it worthwhile for the establishment to shut down. It matters not to them that this civil liberties destroying fraud has been going on for my entire post-college life and, if they have their way, for the remainder of it. It matters not to them that the “war on terror” itself has done more to destroy the Constitution and vital essence of this nation than any terrorist act ever could. No, it matters very little indeed. What matters to them is money and power, and the “war on terror” provides them with boatloads of both.
My favorite excerpts from Glenn’s article are below:
On Thursday, the Senate Armed Services Committee held a hearing on whether the statutory basis for this “war” – the 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF) – should be revised (meaning: expanded). This is how Wired’s Spencer Ackerman (soon to be the Guardian US’s national security editor) described the most significant exchange:
“Asked at a Senate hearing today how long the war on terrorism will last, Michael Sheehan, the assistant secretary of defense for special operations and low-intensity conflict, answered, ’At least 10 to 20 years.’ . . . A spokeswoman, Army Col. Anne Edgecomb, clarified that Sheehan meant the conflict is likely to last 10 to 20 more years from today – atop the 12 years that the conflict has already lasted. Welcome to America’s Thirty Years War.”
That the Obama administration is now repeatedly declaring that the “war on terror” will last at least another decade (or two) is vastly more significant than all three of this week’s big media controversies (Benghazi, IRS, and AP/DOJ) combined. The military historian Andrew Bacevich has spent years warning that US policy planners have adopted an explicit doctrine of “endless war”. Obama officials, despite repeatedly boasting that they have delivered permanently crippling blows to al-Qaida, are now, as clearly as the English language permits, openly declaring this to be so.
It is hard to resist the conclusion that this war has no purpose other than its own eternal perpetuation. This war is not a means to any end but rather is the end in itself. Not only is it the end itself, but it is also its own fuel: it is precisely this endless war – justified in the name of stopping the threat of terrorism – that is the single greatest cause of that threat.
In response, I wrote that the “war on terror” cannot and will not end on its own for two reasons: (1) it is designed by its very terms to be permanent, incapable of ending, since the war itself ironically ensures that there will never come a time when people stop wanting to bring violence back to the US (the operational definition of “terrorism”), and (2) the nation’s most powerful political and economic factions reap a bonanza of benefits from its continuation. Whatever else is true, it is now beyond doubt that ending this war is the last thing on the mind of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner and those who work at the highest levels of his administration. Is there any way they can make that clearer beyond declaring that it will continue for “at least” another 10-20 years?
And then there’s the most intangible yet most significant cost: each year of endless war that passes further normalizes the endless rights erosions justified in its name. The second term of the Bush administration and first five years of the Obama presidency have been devoted to codifying and institutionalizing the vast and unchecked powers that are typically vested in leaders in the name of war. Those powers of secrecy, indefinite detention, mass surveillance, and due-process-free assassination are not going anywhere. They are now permanent fixtures not only in the US political system but, worse, in American political culture.
Each year that passes, millions of young Americans come of age having spent their entire lives, literally, with these powers and this climate fixed in place: to them, there is nothing radical or aberrational about any of it. The post-9/11 era is all they have been trained to know. That is how a state of permanent war not only devastates its foreign targets but also degrades the population of the nation that prosecutes it.
This war will end only once Americans realize the vast and multi-faceted costs they are bearing so that the nation’s political elites can be empowered and its oligarchs can further prosper. But Washington clearly has no fear that such realizations are imminent. They are moving in the other direction: aggressively planning how to further entrench and expand this war.
Newly elected independent Sen. Angus King of Maine said after listening to how the Obama administration interprets its war powers under the AUMF:
This is the most astounding and most astoundingly disturbing hearing that I’ve been to since I’ve been here. You guys have essentially rewritten the Constitution today.”
Former Bush DOJ official Jack Goldsmith, who testified at the hearing,summarized what was said after it was over: Obama officials argued that “they had domestic authority to use force in Mali, Syria, Libya, and Congo, against Islamist terrorist threats there”; that “they were actively considering emerging threats and stated that it was possible they would need to return to Congress for new authorities against those threats but did not at present need new authorities”; that “the conflict authorized by the AUMF was not nearly over”; and that “several members of the Committee were surprised by the breadth of DOD’s interpretation of the AUMF.” Conveying the dark irony of America’s war machine, seemingly lifted right out of the Cold War era film Dr. Strangelove, Goldsmith added:
Amazingly, there is a very large question even in the Armed Services Committee about who the United States is at war against and where, and how those determinations are made.”
Nobody really even knows with whom the US is at war, or where. Everyone just knows that it is vital that it continue in unlimited form indefinitely.
1984 really was an instruction manual for the people in power. Terrifying.
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how about that cunt, lois lerner having her attorneys tell congress they shouldn't make her appear before oversight committee tomorrow because she intends to invoke the 5th amendment. wtf, so what will congress do, hold her in contempt. shit, i got in bigger trouble not taking my nap in kindergarten, they didn't give me my cookie and punch.
I'm tired of being pissed about governments bloated carcass, and its tyrannical nature. In the past I would have been angry about this. But now I see it as a good thing. The faster it grows more obese, and the MOAR it spends, the end result of its inevitable implosion and collapse is sped up. So I say yay! Spend another 5 trillion! Grow another 20% to fight this indefinite war! Hurry up your collapse you fat fucking tyrannical pile of elite banker, corrupt government shitbags!
Exactly.
Yep, if it takes another 20 years I'm going to be too old for much.
But, if I have some terminal disease or get much older than 60-65 I become much more dangerous.
Growth industry. Good for US weapons business.
To paraphrase H. L. Mencken: if there were no boogyman government would invent one.
Couple of Double 00 tards with steam kettles and some nails every several years should keep us in enough F-69 Sky Rapers and M-99 Camel Squashers to last a lifetime (spare parts not included) I notice they are changing the language in the Military Commercials, they are not fighting for aour freedom anymore, the knuckleheads are fighting for "fairness" for the rest of the world. God help us all.
fairness = terrorism.
America's Navy: A global force for good.®
As far as terror jobs go, Osama bin Laden did a great job on 911.
The psychological meltdown of a complete country, leadership, military et all. Caused by 10 guys with box cutters.
Apparently it is impossible for the US to understand that if you want allies, it needs to go through the heart. It cannot be bought, threatened or negotiated with $$loans.
So there y'all are, not only an war monger and unreliable nation looking for short term gains overseas but now also a fascist state internally.
You reap what you sow.
Osama Bin Laden = Emmanuel Goldstein. A mythical villain.
@ Troy Ounce
Actually, current policy is the heart is removed through the rectum.
"Transrectal Cardiectomy"
*Thanks Bastiat.
Who the fuck red popped the Doc?
Jesus....
Oh yeah, one of the folks indoctrinated, yet.
Some stooges still need to wake the fuck up, Doc...
And your hateful tribes are any better? No, you are not.
FUCK OFF.
I dislike the career politicians, but yours are worse than the U.S.A. You kill your people with impunity.
People from every hateful land come to the USA for a better way than they left in their own hateful land, abused by their hierarchy.
The hearts of the whole world went out to the US on 9/11. Even the Muslim world. Then Bush threw it all away.
If their hearts went out to us for killing our own people, then they were as stupid as you are.
What if we could take Orwell's gritty dystopia and smooth out the rough edges with... some soma, maybe?
Even as the last troops are pulled from abroad due to national insolvency, they will regroup and focus domestically on the terrorists.....
Rumor has it that they are starting with the deflationists. :)
Doc, is that the same as the "tea partiers"?
if you live over or near natural resources you
might just be a potential enemy of the state and
terrist, no exceptions. freedom loving authorities
will offer a choice, choose wisely they will advise.
do you really think you can change the "world",
the world view as defined by the mass media and advertising
firms, the state, the financial houses and the money
authorities? can you change it? would that make you a
potential terrist? a savage? ...... a beast?
a beast for peace?
.
Propellerheads feat: Miss Shirley Bassey - History Repeating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8
Orwell was a big time Progressive.
1984 wasnt a cautionary tale.
It was a How To manual.
Wrong, my friend.
Orwell was a Young Socialist who later decided to dissent, and expose the hate in the heart of the beast.
Orwell in 1938:
For some years past I have managed to make the capitalist class pay me several pounds a week for writing books against capitalism. But I do not delude myself that this state of affairs is going to last forever ... the only régime which, in the long run, will dare to permit freedom of speech is a Socialist régime. If Fascism triumphs I am finished as a writer – that is to say, finished in my only effective capacity. That of itself would be a sufficient reason for joining a Socialist party.[149]
Too profitable? Never going to end? JUST LIKE QE!
Greenwald is arguably the best and most important mainstream journalist in the world.
Hope he stays alive for a while.
Every time I read something from Mike, I am reminded to remind you that our Great Remiss is not exposing and humiliating the most powerful collective body of governance in the history of the world -- and the only organization that holds power (By Design) to stop the madness.
Unless you are smitten with a different arrangement, which is chomping at the bit...
ps. that was a compliment, Mike.
greenwald is vastly mistaken about the purpose of the war - it is not war per se but rather the nazi nation.....everything the bush crime syndicate and nazi rockefellers did with blowing up nyc was to reinforce the 3d reich which is in its 80th year.....they have had permawar since ww2....what they now have is a lockhold on your soul.
Nowadays a combatant is either a terrorist or a freedom fighter...all poor pawns dying or being mangled for unknown others. As long as there is money to be made killing people and blowing things up, the USA will lead the world in this lucrative trade. Constantly causing hatred ensures the music never stops.
Nothing lasts forever, not even human folly and stupidity. But in the meantime, it's a good idea to make sure that you and I are not adding to the confusion and trouble in the world. This is not a dragon you can meet face to face. You'll end up in the streets throwing Molotov cocktails at witless police in riot gear, accomplishing nothing.
This thing has to be starved to death. I've already completely readjusted my life to pay as little taxes as possible. I've cut back drastically on consumption of food, energy, and consumerist junk. For work, I only build houses that I live in for a couple of years, and then sell for a non-taxable capital gain. It isn't always convenient or easy, but it's essential that we don't support the monstrosity, wittingly or unwittingly.
As Otto noted above, the US govt will go broke--and that means it will bankrupt us--as it persists in waging endless Wars on Everything and Everybody. There is no one in elected office who is showing a shred of sense or reason about this; every one of them is talking about making the government endlessly bigger and more powerful. Your first job is to figure out how to remove yourself from both the supply line, and the line of fire.
I figure it's only a matter of time before this monster moves to draft young women into combat. If you have daughters--if you are a daughter--keep that in mind.
+ 1 I.C. Well put.
"Deficits don't matter. Reagan proved that"
They don't need your taxes. They don't even need paper and ink anymore, they can create all the money they need with a few keystrokes.
"They don't need your taxes.....they can create all the money they need with a few keystrokes."
You might believe that, but the Fed does not. The Fed has never created a single dollar of money. They can only create credit; money is a rightful claim on goods and services, and money comes about only by adding value to society, aka "work". There is nothing Benny and Timmy fear and loathe more than real work. All they know is black limos and air-conditioned 5-star accomodations.
Their credit spends like money, but it is only a counterfeit. They need to tax us to remove our own claim on goods and services, so that it does not compete with their counterfeited purchasing power. Otherwise, massive inflation would result immediately from multiple competing claims on a limited pool of goods.
Wartime governments normally obviate this by issuing "war bonds". They create a State of Fear that induces the people to willingly exchange their savings for an I.O.U. so that the war-makers can spend on fireworks and death what otherwise would go for peacetime goods.
War bonds are not feasible when war is perpetual and welfare schemes already absorb more than available savings. Thus, this govt has chosen the Weimar route--financing war through the printing press--which is just a sneakier way of taking your purchasing power for their own ends.
Thats how you Rob the Sheeple; Running an endless protection racket from the Boogie Men.
BOOGA! BOOGA!
If Boogie Men not being bad enough - provoke witrh drone strikes.
BOOGA! BOOGA!
I'm fairly certain that at some point, the Pentagon won't be able to afford BB guns.....
They couldn't afford them now if not for fiat money. As long as people keep taking their checks they are solvent.
Is there any self-respect among Zhers? I wonder.
Follow the money. War makes money. Politics is showbiz for ugly people. Don't like that? Buy gold, silver and land...and do not vote for the status quo.
Anyone who still votes in this country is a traitor.
or naive.
Have some soul, friend.
The power brokers want to break soul; make everyone a machine, a tool, a thing.
I will never leave my community, friend. God bless you and yours. No surrender.
I bet my money, gold, silver, land and genuine community against their cynic ways.
I will win, and so will you. Watch and see.
No surrender.
Voting is the only thing they are afraid of.
And why would they be afraid of voting? People do it every year--and here we are...
Seems they are scared of the Tea partiers.
The tea party was hijacked by agents like Glenn Beck faster than your mythical flight 93. There is one message and one message only: GOVERNMENT IS TOO BIG. Cut it in half. Heck, fire 90% of them. cut cut cut cut cut cut cut. And when you're done, cut some more.
I usually ask a more quantitative question about government: how much? (in percentages of GDP / "tax load")
in the range of 20%-30% would be fine for me, particularly if gov spends only what it taxes during peacetime
I agree. My comment was to the point that the guberment perceives the group to be a threat. Need I remind you that when the group started and before the co-opting its montra was, "There is one message and one message only: GOVERNMENT IS TOO BIG. Cut it in half. Heck, fire 90% of them. cut cut cut cut cut cut cut. And when you're done, cut some more."
It was the original idea of the party that scared the state, and the idea was started at the local level. Of course the idea was hijacked and the group turned mainstream and marginalized.
They love voting. The only issues that get put on the table are those that don't matter and shouldn't be there.
"If you want a picture of the future, Winston, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever."
Hey, as long as this endless war on "terrorism" helps keep this pigsty of a country on the path to collapse and ruin, it's all good! Bring it on--it's funny and entertaining! I just hope I'm still around for the final act....
One day a privateer, the next day a pirate. keep them guessing. As long as a paycheck keeps being deposited.
Greed is like a cancer. The more you have, the more you want. You must protect what you have. You must defend it at all costs. You don't know who the enemy is, but you know they're coming...from every direction. Paranoia sets in. The only cure is more and more. Must have more.
Aye, there is the rub.
Personal greed is a great thing in a truly free society where the only real laws consist of preventing violence, theft, and fraud, and are enforced, because the only way you can get rich is through voluntary transactions that benefit both parties. Most of the super rich today get their money through tyrranical laws.
"We are all Terrorists now"
It is Israel and the US who engage the wars on terror in their battle for world empire. It is this partnership in war that is the main contributor to the modern global culture of violence, that has sown the wind, and it is the peoples at home and abroad who shall reap the whirlwind. The international bankers, of course, harvest the profits.
History, according to Mike Hewitt of DollarDaze, reveals the banker involvement in war.
The War of 1812: “Nathan Mayer Rothschild, son of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, is claimed by some historians to have warned, ‘...that the United States would find itself involved in a most disastrous war if the bank's charter were not renewed.’ Coincidently, within five months of the closing of the [First] Bank of the United States, the British declared war allegedly financed by loans from the Rothschilds, who at this time were already prominent bankers in Europe.”
The American Civil War: “In order to finance the North's Civil War efforts, Lincoln approached the European banks controlled by the Rothschilds in 1861. They demanded 24% to 36% interest. Lincoln refused and instead passed the Legal Tender Act of 1862. Under this new piece of legislation, Lincoln issued US$449,338,902 of interest-free money, known as Greenbacks, so-called from the green ink they used. It served as legal tender for all debts, public and private and was used to finance the Union's Civil War efforts.
"”The government should create, issue and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of consumers ... The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Government's greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption of these principles, the long-felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest...’ (Abraham Lincoln)
“An editorial in the London Times reveals the sentiment of the European bankers,
‘If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.’ (London Times, 1865)
http://www.dollardaze.org/blog/?post_id=00255
I'm a wealthy white woman of the West, and I feel sick that nazionists ruin my Republic of the USA, and kill people abroad.
CONgress is so very stupid or venal that it complies with nazionists.
Jewish Americans helped found the USA, long before Rothschild Zionists wrought their hateful money grubbing Internationale upon the world.
In WWII, only American troops refused to hand over their jewish comrades to nazis.
It is time for American jews to defend the Republic of the USA, and stop helping the foreign banksters of the Rothschild Zionism which hates us - ordinary jew and gentile alike.
Islamists are most hateful. The only no flight zone we need is a ban on travel between the West and any any country that threatens us.
Isn't it interesting that the poorest in money and soul claim to be most high. Poor cowards, they are, using braver people to fill their bank accounts in their lowly way. Cowards.
"...a ban on travel between the West and any any country that threatens us..."
fine, but I'm not aware of any country that threatens the US - except for North Korea and Iran, so... your wish is granted
You are kidding right? There are MANY other nations that would love to see the USA burn. In fact, most nations that we interact with accept our aid with one outstretched hand while concealing a poisoned dagger in the other.
Many a tide has come and gone awaiting a response to this plee. The crew has almost forgotten what we are waiting for. I NewEngland hears a response please pass it along
Dear.
Our country, and our people.
The sea mist blows upon our shores, and we love it most. Our people. Our country.
Our ears are trying to penetrate the fog on a quiet night... nothing.
Resist, we must. There is something in this Republic that is most beautiful, made by privateers, while mere wage slaves hate it, and their masters whip them.
There are too many people grifting off the USA. CONgress in particular.
USSA WARS = Shovel ready projects
I can tell you from first hand knowledge that AQ/Taliban/Terrorists are REAL, anyone who thinks not, take your brainwashed ass to an airport and fly over to Libya,Iraq,Iran,Egypt,most of Africa,Afhanistan,Pakistan,Chechnya. Make sure to wear a rosary and a go pro streaming a live feed. Your death, while it might not be quick, is certain.
AlCIADA.
Operation Paperclip brought Nazionists into the U.S.A.
Maybe the U.S. and the U.K. shouldn't have spent the last century shitting on the countries you listed. Oh, well!
Well said!
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ZH is being targeted by FedGov spambots & human operatives saturating the comment sections with garbage and disinformation in addition to down voting certain posters.
They are not harmless trolls, they are professional operatives attempting to undermine and discredit ZH via multi nic sock puppets. ('heart' would never do that :)
Attacking this post by constant down voting speaks for itself.
Case closed.
So?
Most of us are capable of thinking for ourselves.
Would you kindly quit copy and pasting this?
http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-626-sibel-edmonds-explains-whos-a...
Btw, her blog: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/
"And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal." Dubbya May 13, 2008
"Now watch this Drive":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3p9y_OEAdc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As for the Obummer, there's moar, a whole lot moarrr:
http://obamagolfcounter.com/
Take out the money changers on Wall st. and the war machine and what's left of US GDP, I like to see that number.
Re War on Terror Will Never End.
USI goes supernova in its terminal insanity - truly a Spectacle for the Ages!
Clearly, to speed it up what they have to do is declare martial law. Hunt down and kill all the terrorists. Problem solved.
WTF. To some, you might be a "terrorist". Hint: FEMA camps. The thing we do not need is martial law.
When it suits the political oligarchy, they'll begin other domestic wars too...
How about a "war on driving" to prevent people being killed on the roads each year? Fancy a tamper-proof spy cam fitted in your vehicle so the government has a full digital record of every journey you take? How about a "war on dirt" to prevent the spread of bacteria. Fancy a spy cam installed in your home to monitor your domestic cleaning habits? How about a "war on waste food" to prevent all that outdated food being thrown away? Fancy a spychip installed in your government approved trash can?
The list of potential wars is almost endless for those in power wishing to maintain control of its citizens.
+1 how about a war on the use of the word "WAR" in political debates? but there's the problem: too many (on the european continent much less so) love the word "war" - and would probably be flabbergasted if they knew that the word Jihad is - properly used - even less "warlike" than the English word war (or crusade)
I think I'd settle for a "war on bullshit" as another commenter wrote. Perhaps with a "war on lies" rolled into it.
That ought to shut up 99% of politicos for a lifetime ;-)
MSM should introduce a 10 second time delay whenever they interview politicos with a strict rule that everything spoken after the first lie was deleted and never broadcast. We'd probably not get past the first half-sentence of many of them.
Too bad they don't declare a war on bullshit. But we can't expect them to declare a war on themselves can we?
"If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?" Matthew 12:26
Not until they figure out a way to financialize it.
Why was a Sunday Times report on US government ties to al-Qaeda chief spiked ?
http://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/whistleblower-al-qaeda-chief-u-s-asset
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com
http://www.wanttoknow.info
http://www.globalresearch.ca
Citizens must stop suppling soldiers to feed this thing.
US has become what the USSR always wanted to be.
except in this economy military service is an attractive alternative to no job and no money...
the pure leftist, lawyers, profs pols unions all understand they are protected by being on the right lists speaking the lefts truths keeping quiet and mandatory deaf on the lefts crimes, a honest man sees the truth of their long spoken highly held ideals, and sees only lies and self delusion. as said before hypocrits of evil , truly non human reptiles.
You partisan fools are the pawns of the elite. Good job.
Sometimes y'all confuse the hell out of me...what's the answer? Kill all the bankers and then submit to Islam? One out of two is not winning.
How about kill all bankers, lawyers, politicians, AND religious leaders? I like the idea.
Finally a plan
Stalin's Willing Executioners
"Fight back, then, with such courage as you have and every unchivalrous dodge you know of." -W.H. Auden, There Will Be No Peace, 1956.
Just four short months ago, the most chilling statements were made.
Barack Obama, 2013 Inauguration Address: "We, the people, still believe that enduring security and lasting peace do not require perpetual war. Our brave men and women in uniform, tempered by the flames of battle, are unmatched in skill and courage. Our citizens, seared by the memory of those we have lost, know too well the price that is paid for liberty. The knowledge of their sacrifice will keep us forever vigilant against those who would do us harm. But we are also heirs to those who won the peace and not just the war, who turned sworn enemies into the surest of friends, and we must carry those lessons into this time as well.
We will defend our people and uphold our values through strength of arms and rule of law. We will show the courage to try and resolve our differences with other nations peacefully – not because we are naïve about the dangers we face, but because engagement can more durably lift suspicion and fear. America will remain the anchor of strong alliances in every corner of the globe; and we will renew those institutions that extend our capacity to manage crisis abroad, for no one has a greater stake in a peaceful world than its most powerful nation. We will support democracy from Asia to Africa; from the Americas to the Middle East, because our interests and our conscience compel us to act on behalf of those who long for freedom."
The war on terror, specifically Islamic terror, has been going on for 1500 years. Islam is a religion founded on terror, rape, bribery, extortion, slavery, etc. Just read a book. The US Navy was started to fight "Musselman" terror on the high seas during Jefferson's presidency. Read a book. As long as there is Islam and there are "Infidels" who have not submitted, there will be terror. Just because most Muslims may not be not terrrorists and may not support terrroism and shariah, doesn't mean Islam will stop instigating terrorism to achieve its goal of the worldwide caliphate (ummah).
Wake up and smell the hummis.
The 10% (or more) of Islam that does whatever their imam's say, represents about 100 million people. That's a significant amount of "fundamentalists" or "true believers." They are recruiting amongst the disaffected and are doing a good job. The more the West mocks its own historical "judeo-christian" religious and moral values, the bigger the vaccuum that's created. Islam, the religion of intolerance, is happy to fill the gap.
The "war on terrorism" is a misnomer. We should call it what it is. It's really "the war of the West against the Barbarian hoards," and the West is losing because it will not take a moral stand against the Shariah. That means it won't take a moral stand against Muslim gangs that rape young girls, cliterectomies, pedophilia, forced marriages, slavery, extortion, bribery, honor killings, death penalty for "blasphemy" of the "prophet", "workplace violence" (eg terrorism) on military bases and in our cities, etc. Read the Koran and some commentaries. It's all there if one is willing to accept what it and its official sanctioned interpreters says a face value. "If we are not for ourselves, who will be for us? If not now, when?"
Would you like a banana?
So what you are saying is Islam is just like Christianity and Judaism. Read a book.
Honestly.
The only winner in this "game" is the left.
Everything is done with no objective other than placing the left in power and making that change permanent. I don't care what the democrats say, or the republicans say, what labour says or what the Tories say, nor the "news media."
Special mention and thanks are due the media because they hold the keys to the minds of the masses, and use them everyday to enslave the rest of us.
The net result is always the same in every instance, the left wins by lying, cheating, intimidation, blackmail, fear, assaults and murder. It then doubles down on those activities because it must, in order to maintain it's power and control.
It is true that ignorant, foolish, greedy and clueless people do exist and have and impact but all of this is converted to use by the left in order to win and ultimately produce a better Zil in which to ride, while their slaves walk.
You are the epitomy of a partisan idiot.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30620.htm
Anybody have more info on this? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/ibragim-todashev-shot_n_3318332.html
FBI shot and killed him during an interview regarding Boston. Something seems really off here.
here is a link to the local Television news story
http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/man-questioned-in-boston-marathon-bombing-shot-killed-by-fbi/-/11971628/20250158/-/k4uelaz/-/index.html?absolute=true&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=wcvb
"local Television news story" -- remarkable lack of detail and accountability.
Staplegun
Looks like killed at a residence. Said to have pulled a knife. May have been involved in triple murder of Tsarnaev friends.
http://www.news.com.au/world-news/khusn-taramiv-killed-by-fbi-agent-was-questioned-in-boston-marathon-bombings/story-fndir2ev-1226648749031
Eternal War?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQMv-HczJw
Terror?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbmm2jqlkl0
There is a War on Americans, not a War on Terror. Lead hijacker Mohammed Atta worked for the Saudi version of the CIA, he was a guest on the gambling boat George Bush bundler Jack Abramoff had stolen fron Florida businessman Gus Boulis. Boulis was killed by Mafia hitmen in an ambush in February 2001 in Ft. Lauderdale, minutes after he threatened to expose the fraud at a business meeting with Abramoff. The FBI knew who killed Boulis within hours of the murder but did nothing for over three years, to protect George Bush. Last night in Orlando, an FBI agent just killed someone under suspicion for talking with Boston Mararthon bomber Tsarnaev Tamerlan by phone after the bombing. There is vdeo on YouTube of a plane with no markings, a military aircraft, crashing into Two World Trade Center on 9/11. There is also YouTube video of Tamerlan being escorted alive into a Boston police car after the alleged shootout. We will have Reichstag Fire staged events as long as necessary, until the USA runs out of money and credit.
"Oceania is at war with Eurasia, Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia."
Big part of the problem - Why does the World feel so wrong?:
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Consider these events:
1. A president who started two aggressive wars, who bears responsibility for the loss of thousands of American lives along with hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and Afghan lives, leaves office as a free man without a felony record or any negative repercussions.
2. Meanwhile, the same populace that has intimate experience with lying politicians appears utterly smitten with a smooth-talking new president promising change and demanding sacrifice.
3. The Congress, which had an approval rate of 14% and which just passed a $700 billion bailout over the objections of a majority of Americans, had a re-election rate exceeding 95%.
4. Untold millions of Americans voice support of military troops as these very people are needlessly killed, injured, and separated from their families and productive work at home.
5. A general populace believed that buying unproductive assets, like housing, could make them wealthy, forever, without any coherent explanation why.
6. Researchers who pursue alternative explanations for AIDS and cancer get their funding cut and have the results of their research squelched, while others who try to improve life by providing healthful foods find themselves under attack.
Overt criminality by leaders and passive, unclear thinking by the proles have become the norm. The two go together, creating a symbiotic ecosystem of tyranny. Fraud, theft, and murder have become widespread, just as the scale of lies told and believed have reached new heights. Irresponsibility has become socialized while people in the honest pursuit of good get thwarted.
Those of us who want little more than peace and freedom don't run the world. Pursuing freedom contradicts controlling others, so we can reason that people who pursue power have some motivations separate from our own.
I have not fully comprehended the implications of this until recently. Despite all the evidence to the contrary, I had assumed that the people who wield power feel similarly about moral issues as I do'I just couldn't see why they commit and justify unethical behavior. I already knew that states operate according to a code that the rest of us don't follow in our own lives. Nevertheless, I assumed that a man who acts without regard to moral laws must feel guilty about it. Then, one day, I stumbled onto this idea: Suppose he doesn't.
With only small ambitions, he probably behaves like a common criminal, a predator. He lies to gain advantage, uses force to get his way, and steals without conscience. Not feeling guilty about unethical behavior motivates him to instigate further criminal acts.
Small crime operations have one big problem, namely, the risk of getting caught. The prospect of prison appears unappealing, yet even with the high likelihood of arrest and capture during a career, common criminals approach their field with little sophistication and often pay the price. Other like-minded people see ways to avoid these problems. Just as normal people develop interests growing up and figure out how to pursue them at higher levels, a criminal mind can do the same. With greater intelligence and patience, he can pursue an ambitious career of criminality. With this objective in sight, one can easily see the state as the most expedient means to accomplish it.
Once a criminal joins forces with the state by becoming an employee, he can lie to his advantage, use force to get his way, and steal without conscience, just as the small-time operator does. The opportunities for mischief have no limits through thoughtful job selection. For example, if a man took pleasure in making innocent people squirm, he could become a police officer and plant evidence. For another, if he wanted to murder people, he could become a military officer and 'accidentally' call in the coordinates of a house he'd like to see bombed. Whatever they do, the state shields them from the natural consequences of their actions. In all likelihood, if smart, they never get caught, never get punished, and probably get commended.
Too often, I have assumed that the people working for the state take the jobs only because of the easy hours and good pay, benefits, and retirement. For the predator, though, it offers all these things with the appetizing fringe benefit of satisfying their criminal urges without the risk of retribution.
It turns out this personality type has a scientific name: psychopathic. Lest you think I merely kid you, I quote from Scientific American:
Superficially charming, psychopaths tend to make a good first impression on others and often strike observers as remarkably normal. Yet they are self-centered, dishonest and undependable, and at times they engage in irresponsible behavior for no apparent reason other than the sheer fun of it. Largely devoid of guilt, empathy and love, they have casual and callous interpersonal and romantic relationships. Psychopaths routinely offer excuses for their reckless and often outrageous actions, placing blame on others instead. They rarely learn from their mistakes or benefit from negative feedback, and they have difficulty inhibiting their impulses.
This seems like a nearly perfect description of those who seek political power. That same article goes on to say that fields over-represented by psychopaths may include 'politics, business and entertainment. Yet the scientific evidence for this intriguing conjecture is preliminary.' It turns out that much stronger evidence for this exists than the article lets on.
In the book Political Ponerology, Andrew Lobaczewski claims that about 6% of the people within a population have psychopathic characters. The implications of this, which he recognized soon after World War II, stagger the mind. Moreover, he suggests that another 12% of the population has high susceptibility to psychopathic thought. In a world dominated by hierarchical structures, these people sieze control of the key positions and create a so-called 'pathocracy.' Lobaczewski continues, writing in ways that clearly anticipate the current reality:
Within this [pathocratic] system, the common man is blamed for not having been born a psychopath, and is considered good for nothing except hard work, fighting and dying to protect a system of government he can neither sufficiently comprehend nor ever consider to be his own. An ever-strengthening network of psychopathic and related individuals gradually starts to dominate, overshadowing the others.
Normal people have not considered the possibility that some people who seem ordinary could have no moral inhibitions. They default to believing that their leaders have good intentions. Employees of psychopaths thus carry out plans of their bosses blinded to the reality. No matter the scope of the 'failure,' the leadership can always point back to their stated good intentions and shield themselves from the gallows. In fact, the more harm they create, the stronger the call becomes to vest more power in their failed agency so they can 'prevent' anything of the sort from ever happening again.
Their MO focuses on figuring out how much they can get away with, and we see no signs they have begun to approach the limits the public will accept. Irrespective of the ordeals they create, the vast majority of people give them the benefit of the doubt time and time again and continue in their support of the system. This belief among good people led to the democide of the 20th Century that continues unabated today.
After considering the possibility that psychopaths have taken control of society, we find volumes of evidence to support the hypothesis. Did Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot sympathize with their victims or have any sense of guilt? More recently, among Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, or Clinton , can we point to one who even exhibits a fa'ade resembling normality? Obviously not'these lists name one person after another who has zero accountability to a rational morality. If people like this could make their way to the highest levels of power, what does that say about lower offices?
It suggests people like this have control over the levers of power everywhere. We live at a time when the population at large cannot achieve its wants, yet few seem to know why. As one example, polls consistently indicate that educational matters concern the public, yet decade after decade, schooling gets quantitatively worse. What a mystery! Evidently, if we believe our well-meaning masters, 2,000 years of Western civilization has not yet determined effective ways to transmit key knowledge to younger generations. However, what happens if we suspend our belief in their benevolence for a moment and consider other possibilities? If schools fail to achieve their stated goals over several decades, might some groups see this as a success?
Inhibiting critical thinking in the masses obviously benefits the state and psychopaths. When overtly self-serving, irresponsible, illegal, immoral, irrational behavior gets treated as normal, we can conclude that the educational system works quite well for our masters. I have given but one example, yet the multitude of state functions exists to provide every variety of psychopathic interest with a job. Moreover, we should consider that the state not only acts like a recruitment center for psychopaths, but that psychopaths probably invented the state to take advantage of the rest of us. I can give you no better explanation for the existence of an organization that fails in every ethical dimension and invokes psychopathic thinking at every turn than this.
Our battle for liberty appears not just as a conflict between those who want freedom versus those who want control, but instead as the battle between normal people and the psychopaths. I have found incredible explanatory power of our world within the psychopathic hypothesis: The world feels wrong because psychopaths run it. In a country trained to discount and ridicule all ideas more than a standard deviation from the average, coherent explanations of observable social phenomena don't get much press. Without understanding physical laws, we would never have gained the massive improvements in our quality of life from technological developments. Similarly, without understanding our social systems, we will never escape from the tyranny unleashed on us by psychopaths. We should spread the word and explore this rich vein of thought with vigor.
http://www.strike-the-root.com/91/groves/groves1.html
The Congress, which had an approval rate of 14% and which just passed a $700 billion bailout over the objections of a majority of Americans, had a re-election rate exceeding 95%.
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Part of the job of an 'american' servant to her/his master aka WeThePeople in an 'american' society is to draw blame instead of his/her master.
The 'american' middle class bad mouths their political servants to operate a superficial dissociation while keeping supporting their servants when it matters (the vote)
An 'american' servant can take bad reputation, bad mouthing etc as long as the servant remains employed.
This is how 'americanism' works.
The great 'americanism', the best thing to have ever happened to humanity.
Stop participating.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/is-obamacares-fatal-flaw-taking-effect/
Absolutely.
"Thinking the Unthinkable" by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalmilitarism90.htm
(credit's : William Arkin LA Times/ 9 March 2002 / 1st to get message out of the crypt)
In late 2002, the U.S. Senate approved, "The 2001 Nuclear Posture Review" against at least seven (7/8?) countries thought to be America's 'axis-of-evil' -- *Russia, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, **China, Libya, and Syria... (and perhaps #8/ Pakistan?)
this is a remarkable expos`e of america's foreign policy... where Corporate American Oil Companies pay a few billion in corporate taxes to uncle samuel, and the trillion dollar's cost of these endless wars are picked-up by the pleb's!
,... and the trillion dollar profits (from blood, sweat, and tears) are pocketed by WHOM??? (never ask a question if you don't know the answer!)
please note: failed search link-up! must goto-- 'thinking the unthinkable' by william arkin,... Jan. 30, 2003 @ la times ... scroll down to "America's planned nuclear attack on Libya" @ Biblioteca Pleyades
thankyou Tyler
'American' wars exist to serve the 'american' middle class.
Servants take their cut for sure but the final end is always to serve the 'american' middle class, to provide them with opportunities to expand.
Actually, the more it advances, the more this trend endangers the 'american' upper class that is en route to own everything that would be a valuable target for wars.
Going to be a huge split at top with some 'americans' endangered in their assets as the greed of the 'american' middle class will demand even more wars.
'AnAnonymist' bores exist to serve the Chinese citizenism propagandist class.
Servants at JKC* wok their dog for sure but the final end is always to serve the Chinese citizenism propagandist class, to provide them with delicacies like Shanghai Kitten Crispy.
Actually, the more it blobs up, the more this trend endangers the Chinese Citizenism Communautist Party upper class that is en route to own everything that would be a valuable target for wars.
Going to be a huge shit at the top of the roadside pile with some 'AnAnonymists' endangered by their asses as the fantasical screed of the Chinese citizenism propagandist class will demand even more open roadside to crap on.
For Chinese citizenism citizen gangs, more turf, no squeezing the Charmin.
Welcome to an 'AnAnonymist' world. It is a smelly place, so hold your nose, you'll see.
*JKC (Just Killed Cat), Chinese citizenism fastfood chain growing the popularousness numeribly.
Medicare Prescription Drug and Modernization Act and the War on Terror are twin torpedos that will bring down the US economy but make a few people very very rich