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Shoot The PRISM-Gate Messenger: Obama To Launch Criminal Probe Into NSA Leaks

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Suddenly embroiled in too many scandals to even list, and humiliated by a publicly-exposed (because everyone knew about the NSA superspy ambitions before, but with one major difference: it was a conspiracy theory....  now it is a conspiracy fact) surveillance scandal that makes Tricky Dick look like an amateur, earlier today, as expected, Obama came out and publicly declared "I am not a hacker" and mumbled something about "security", "privacy" and "inconvenience." He went on to explain how the government "welcomes the debate" of all three in the aftermath of the public disclosure that every form of electronic communication is intercepted and stored by the US government (now that said interception is no longer secret, of course) but more importantly how it is only the government, which is naturally here to help, that should be the ultimate arbiter in deciding what is best for all.

Yet the PRISM-gate scandal which is sure to only get worse with time as Americans slowly realize they are living in a Orwellian police state, meant Obama would have to do more to appease a public so furious even the NYT issued a scathing editorial lamenting the obliteration of Obama's credibility. Sure enough, the president did. Reuters reports that the first course of action by the US government will be to... shoot the messenger.

Reuters reports that "President Barack Obama's administration is likely to open a criminal investigation into the leaking of highly classified documents that revealed the secret surveillance of Americans' telephone and email traffic, U.S. officials said on Friday."

And how did Reuters learn this: from "law enforcement and security officials who were not authorized to speak publicly."

The mimetic absurdity of the narrative is just too surreal to even contemplate for more than a minute before bursting out in laughter: the administration's plans to launch criminal charges against those who "leaked" its Nixonian espionage masterplan involving every US (and world) citizen using the Internet, revealed by another group of sources leaking in secret. Pure poetry.

Of course, this was inevitable - once you start down the path of a totalitarian surveillance superstate, you don't stop until all dissent is crushed: either peacefully through submission to debt serfdom, or, well, not so peacefully.

It was unclear on Friday whether a complaint had been submitted by the publicity-shy National Security Agency, which was most directly involved in the collection of trillions of telephone and email communications.

 

However, one U.S. official with knowledge of the situation said that given the extent and sensitivity of the recent leaks, federal law may compel officials to open an investigation.

 

A criminal probe would represent another turn in the Obama administration's battle against national security leaks. This effort has been under scrutiny lately because of a Justice Department investigation that has involved searches of the phone records of Associated Press journalists and a Fox News reporter.

But what's worst, is that it may all turn very personal against the same journalists who dared to divulge the NSA's spy-op:

Journalists involved in The Guardian and Washington Post articles have reported in depth on WikiLeaks, the website known for publishing secret U.S. government documents.

 

The Post report on the PRISM program was co-written by Laura Poitras, a filmmaker who has been working on a documentary on WikiLeaks, with the cooperation of its founder Julian Assange, and who last year made a short film about Bill Binney, a former NSA employee who became a whistleblowing critic of the agency.

 

Last year, the web magazine Salon published a lengthy article by the author of the Guardian report, Glenn Greenwald, accusing U.S. authorities of harassing Poitras when she left and re-entered the United States. Greenwald also has written frequently about Assange.

 

The Guardian and Post stories appeared in the same week that U.S. Army Private First Class Bradley Manning went on trial in Maryland accused of leaking hundreds of thousands of classified documents to WikiLeaks.

 

In an email to Reuters on Friday, Poitras rejected the notion that the trial had any impact on the timing of her story.

 

"I am fully aware we are living in a political climate where national security reporting is being targeted by the government, however, I don't think fear should stop us from reporting these stories," Poitras wrote.

 

"To suggest that the timing of the NSA PRISM story is linked in any way to other events or stories I'm following is simply wrong. Like any journalist, I have many contacts and follow multiple stories."

 

Kris Coratti, a Washington Post spokeswoman, said the timing of the paper's publication of Poitras' story had nothing to do with Manning's trial and that Assange had played no role in arranging or encouraging the story.

 

Greenwald did not respond to emailed requests for comment. The Guardian's editor-in-chief, Alan Rusbridger, declined to comment.

Needless to say, once political retribution for publicizing the nuances of the police state becomes a personal affair targeting the very journalists whose task is to provide much needed information, the first amendment is basically finished.

Alas, on the path to tyranny the loss of rights and privileges, let alone the occasional amendment written on a very old parchment and which nobody follows or cares about, is inevitable.

And it is up to the citizens of such a tyrannical government to reclaim their nation. Which they will... Just as soon as The Bachelorette/Big Brother (no pun intended)/X Factor is over and the next disability check clears.

 

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Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:00 | 3636539 pods
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Now why did I just visualize the Pink Floyd sausage maker?

pods

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 12:54 | 3637211 Dave Thomas
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For me it was the exploding hi-rise abattior from monty python.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:59 | 3636288 nobodyimportant
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Okay-you can kiss the kenyan's ass but I will not

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:08 | 3636308 LetThemEatRand
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Exactly.  You actually think that my comment that Obama's race is not the reason he's raping us, means I'm kissing his Kenyan ass.  Thank you for making my point you fucking sheep.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:21 | 3636343 fonzannoon
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well that was definitive.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:26 | 3636358 WAMO556
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Your point being a distinction without a difference.

Purges that have happened in the past either through race or ideological lines DID HAPPEN (Stalin, hitler, mao, pol pot, Milosevic, akazu, armenian genocide, etc...), regardless of how you might feel. It might be a good idea to reflect on the last five years.

As far as THE ANOINTED ONE, well, he might not be able to write what he wants to happen, BUT EVERYONE KNOWS what he wants and the end results.

Do you actually believe that this guy finds out about these scandals "like everyone else, through the news"? Either he is a first rate incompetent boob or a traitor.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:30 | 3636369 LetThemEatRand
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He's a traitor.  Like the white guys before him.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:52 | 3636417 WAMO556
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Agreed!

And the other 535 TRAITERS as well.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:08 | 3636455 Burr's 2nd Shot
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From an LTER previous response (kind of):

"Believe it or not, I love the same ideals as you."

My skepticism as to your intent seems to be justified in a single post. You are an incoherent racist retard. You are more concerned about O's identity than he is, because he is convinced that "he made you up to hurt himself".

Defending Guy B by pointing to Guy A makes you an unprincipled hack, paid shill, or bootlicking toady. In any event, easily dismissed.

Unfuck yourself, bro, or get the fuck out of here. We are almost to the point where reality will play a role.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:43 | 3637294 IndyPat
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Would be helpful to have the post in question for context, there, chief?
Kinda hard for us to take sides when we have nothing to go on.
Outside of facts otherwise, I tend to like the new and improved LTER. I never really disliked him. I realized that although he wasn't exactly where I was at the point in time...we were both aimed at the same place.
Trajectory, and what not.
Negro fetishes are going to be hard to break.
People wake and shake from all this in different ways.
Tact is helpful. I know I was never MOAR screaming wild Repub red team than I was the split second before I broke. That's why I am never overly harsh on the lefties swimming to shore, as it were.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:49 | 3637306 IndyPat
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Well shit...now I see the post in question...wasn't there before. What gives?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:30 | 3636493 petolo
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whar race is Ughbama ? De boy looks mo white than callowed.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:54 | 3636843 lakecity55
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Supposedly, Dick is about 40% 'white,' 40% 'arab' and only 10-20% negroid.

Actually he is like a chameleon, which is why he was selected. It is easier to stage a coup when the guy is a minority in Amerika.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 02:29 | 3638645 WAMO556
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Listen nobody,

Now your just being a counter-productive asshole. Stay on topic!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:02 | 3636441 WAMO556
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LTER,

You do realize that this shit is going to get ugly...fast?

My buddies and are I are APOLITICAL, but with this IRS shit and the NSA shit, came out, for the first time I have heard the R and CW words. It takes ALOT to get them truly pissed.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:13 | 3636465 LetThemEatRand
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It's already ugly.  And people should be pissed.  I think they've overplayed their hand.   Even the hipster black guy isn't selling to the liberals any more.  O still has a base just like windshield cowboy W did, but the base is getting smaller and people are waking up.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:10 | 3636551 Troll Magnet
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i think a lot of people have been awake but are silenced by the media unless it's in a very negative light, like, "conspiracy theorists!" or "nutjobs," "fringe groups," etc, etc. and we all know who owns and runs the media...

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:09 | 3636550 knukles
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I'm with you
Patience and civility has been lost
By demonstration from the top
And bad things gonna get said...this time meaning it
People getting past patience

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 02:26 | 3638643 WAMO556
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When the hammer drops, the bullshit stops!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:49 | 3637075 Reptil
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you'd start to think they've been paid to post this racist trolling crap...

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:41 | 3636757 Go Tribe
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Yep. He'll make "nigger" acceptable, hell downright mandatory, again.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:53 | 3637318 IndyPat
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I think it's pretty obvious we are all niggers now and have been for some time.
As far as the POTUS and friends? Criminal label fits like a striped suit.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:03 | 3636445 kchrisc
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When it comes to race, I am a realist not a racist. I am usually the first to point out that predominately black "communities" are rundown, crime ridden, murderous cesspools, amongst other things. However, when is comes to Obama, race has nothing to do with it, as he is just the chief public puppet doing what he is told to do by his masters (pun unintended), the ones that put him there.

The problem is the WHOLE of government and banksters, everyone of the criminals at all levels, from the dog catcher to the POTUS, from your local bank pres. to Berstank, from Dimon to Largarde, from Corzine to Caruana and beyond to their elite puppet masters.

Or put another way, Obama, Holder, Pelosi, Bush I and II, Corzine, Berstank, Greenspan, Largarde, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Gore, etc. are just criminal trees, part of a criminal forest that is nation and worldwide.

Don't miss the criminal forest for the criminal trees.

The guillotine is watching all of them.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:44 | 3636760 Go Tribe
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Actually, race has EVERYTHING to do with it. Were he white, he would be in jail. His black followers have the same life outlooks and thought patterns as obama. He doesn't need to give orders, they act intuitively against the interests of the Constitution.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:46 | 3637085 Reptil
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Oh and Bush is in jail, right? And Rumsfeld, Dick (the order stands) Cheney. etc. etc.

The rest you wrote is also nonsense. This isn't about race, you're a (paid?) troll.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 06:10 | 3636705 Helvetico
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No, it doesn't beg the question at all, particularly since Obama is half-white. Secondly, he was not part of the Civil Rights movement. Third, he can't begin to compare with most African dictators when it comes to murder, corruption and supernatural beliefs.

If it makes you feel better, there are lots and lots of white guys in DC who not only support PRISM and FISA, but who actually run them, too. 

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:37 | 3636754 Go Tribe
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Not in government. There is not a single instance of a small-government black person gaining seniority or leadership status in either Party. Blacks do not fundamentally understand the Constitution and the role of limited government, it is beyond their upbringing and culture.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:08 | 3636795 shovelhead
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Thomas Sowell will be disappointed to hear that.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:45 | 3636900 Coast Watcher
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Classic strategy for derailing the conversation. My hat is off to you. Your employers must be proud. Bonus time?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:47 | 3637088 Reptil
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EXACTLY

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:36 | 3636962 o2sd
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Genome research has conclusively proven there is no such thing as race. Doesn't exist. It's just pseudoscience, a complete nonsense. 25% of the world's males have a DNA strand from Genghis Khan. Does that mean that 25% of the world's males can ride horses and live in tents?

There is only culture, education and other brainwashing. Anyone who thinks people do things, or have certain capabilities due to their 'race', is simply not smart enough to understand science, which is not unusual, that level of intelligence covers around 93% of the population.

Barrack Obama is a face, a convenience, a cover story for those unknown men who gather in wood panelled rooms and make decisions based on how they think the world should be managed, given current circumstance.

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 14:44 | 3637445 holgerdanske
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Of course. I see.

So 100 meter running is dominated by chinese, and the swimming events by blacks?

 

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:56 | 3636991 Kaiser Sousa
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"All this begs the question: are black people capable of high civilization."

yeah, O'Sellout is the one running things...

fucking dumb man.......

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 12:56 | 3637212 IndyPat
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I disagree.
You're not a sell out if you never held legit values in the first place.

Obama is a legion of things, but I'll be damned if ill stand by and allow him to be called inconsistent.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:59 | 3637327 FeralSerf
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Obama-Soertoro was/is a creation of the CIA and CIA's owners and controllers.

 

The CIA is a product of the aristocracy of northern Germany.  The royal families of Europe, including the English and the Russians, are  likewise their products.  Wars have been fought to root out members of those families that their cousins believed were undesireables.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:29 | 3637266 RobertC
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What exactly is high civilization to you? How did race get injected in to this topic?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 16:53 | 3637735 sgorem
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he's just an n word, what would you expect. btw, fuck all you bleeding heart liberals!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:07 | 3636304 TheReplacement
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It is quite likely that none of the tech companies were aware.  The US has already demonstrated the ability to take over networked devices using a virus that can infect the rom or flash level.  This is lower than the applications and OS on servers and as long as things don't go buggy is rarely monitored.  Network admins look for errors.  If the virus is running at the hardware level and not causing errors it most likely won't be seen.  Just ask the Iranians or look up Stuxnet and Flame.

Another avenue the precludes a virus is probably the simplest approach.  Build it into either the OS or the hardware.  There are two places to look for OS - Microsoft and the Linux kernel.  There are two places to look for server hardware, AMD and Intel (CPUs).

I'll bet an oz on it.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:36 | 3636821 post turtle saver
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You're forgetting ARM, which is basically the foundation for the mobile smartphone market.

Just sayin'.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:33 | 3637060 Acet
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Bullshit!

It was already widelly wispered in the Tech community that this kind of thing happened (and has been happening all that way back when Microsoft worked together with the NSA on designing parts of the Windows Operating System) and it's well known in the Tech Startup community that Sillicon Valey startups don't give a shit about user privacy and openly defend the "Use first, ask forgiveness later" approach when it comes to user data.

And lets not forget the historically huge and disproportional fine that a California Court ordered Samsung to pay Apple for breaking patents as immenselly original as the rounded corner square or pinch to zoom.

Large US tech companies are deeply in bed with the US Government and will do whatever it takes in exchange for special treatment (like the above mentioned lawsuit win for Apple).

 

From a different side, as a very senior software engineer, I can tell you that HUGE amounts of data need to flow from the server farms of the likes of Google and Microsoft in order for the NSA to be able to watch every e-mail that people send and receive and there is NO WAY that this can be done covertely by technical means (in very simple terms, every e-mail sent or received would generate a copy being sent to NSA servers, which means that the bandwidth used would be 2x as large as it should, so  - in a covert setup and thus without dedicate fibre connections to the NSA servers - bandwidth costs would be 2x as large).

No, the means by which covertness was achieved are secret executive or court orders mixed with a promisse at the highest levels that the US Government would give those companies preferential treatment and maybe even effective immunity against all sorts of lawsuits.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:05 | 3637220 Reptil
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yup they've been in on it. (the big tech) and so have our western governments (the british secret service now confirmed participant) and the EU top. Who else?

the issue of the volume of data is an interesting one. so you're suggesting the filtering and intel gathering takes place at the corporations involved, instead of that it was all first transferred to the NSA?

secondly, here's a datadump of what appears to be NSA material, courtesy of an anonymous source: http://gizmodo.com/anonymous-just-leaked-a-trove-of-nsa-documents-511854773
it includes a planned strategy to control the internet. I'd appreciate your opinion about it's content, or scope.

the present situation is a precarious one. the powers that be are in full "damage control" mode, since caught with their pants down. if that doesn't work (and it doesn't seem that's the case) they might do something rash.

personally I think these psychopaths are not the people who can lead humanity out of the big mess they themselves put us in, and do not bear a good will towards our species. they base their "model" on fear and repression, use deception (spinning issues 180 degrees) and at the same time destroy (instead of build), while coöperation, honesty and pooling of resources is required for survival of our species.
otherwise it'll be curtains, soon (within our lifetime).
have a nice weekend.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:06 | 3637221 IndyPat
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All true. Right down the list. Forgot one part, though...
Makes "the Cloud" being pushed seem so much more suspect in light of all this other news.
I called bullshit in the first micro second that the wonderful public "Cloud" ,that gets other techies all wet, was introduced. The silver lining in this cloud is a goddamn conducting trace strait to the man.
They should name the fucking Utah facility CLOUD 9 for spooks.
Fuck that noise. I'm keeping my data local. Make the bitchez hack it outta me. I ain't giving it to em.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:09 | 3636309 WAMO556
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Fuck that!

The THIRD AMENDMENT, about unlawfully quartering troops (electronic devices) in our homes.

Do you actually think that you would have bought a iCrap device f you knew that ALL of your information would be hovered to your local NSA guy?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:38 | 3636502 petolo
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We may have to go back to ham radio and morse code and take out ishit in our wikileak boat.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:37 | 3636382 williambanzai7
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big-data-kitty

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:49 | 3636412 WAMO556
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I have ramen noodles coming out of my nose, thanks to you.

Awesome!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:08 | 3637228 IndyPat
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I'm going to attach an encrypted version of this pic to every single fucking email I send.
I wish I could be there when the fucks crack it to find out its this.
I love it.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:42 | 3636394 TheReplacement
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This group is suing everyone involved:  http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/contact

They would like to make it a class action suit.  The more people the more powerful the suit the more difficult it will be for a judge to pull a hammy and throw the case.

Contact here:  leklayman@yahoo.com

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:09 | 3636456 cornflakesdisease
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPLcZ5Rk3Lg

 

By bye Miss American Pie, drove my Chevy to the levy . . . .

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:40 | 3636575 g'kar
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Seems the order of the day, go after those who reported the rape rather than going after the rapist.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:49 | 3636629 putaipan
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appologies to greenwald, tylers and the leaker.....it's a distraction from the tpp.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 12:23 | 3637149 rubiconsolutions
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The sooner that people get over their infatuation with the constitution the better off they will be. A simple word count of the damned thing will show that 95% of the words are parliamentary in nature and articulate government powers. A mere 5% are devoted to individual rights and those are littered with equivocations. Go ahead and read that afterthought called the 'Bill of Rights', the first ten amendments. Words and phrases like "unreasonable" "probable cause" "well regulated" "in a manner to be prescribed by law" "just compensation" to name a few. And who determines these things? The government. The 16th amendment and Article 1, Section 8 give government carte blanche to steal, er, tax you at any rate it desires and there's not a thing you can do about it. Do people understand that? The government can directly tax you at a rate of 99% and that would be "constitutional". They can listen to you phone calls and that is deemed "reasonable" and "constitutional". The constitution won't protect you because it was never designed to do so. It was a coup d'etat by Hamiltonian's to centralize power and grow government power.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:48 | 3636043 Duc888
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"open administration" indeed.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:02 | 3636142 Urban Redneck
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They are open- we can safely assume all electronic communications every employee of WaPo & the Guardian are now being intercepted, that the extortionists from the IRS will soon be knocking on carefully "selected" doors, that (at a minimum) the UK reporter is GITMO-eligible, and that both papers would be well advised to paint "Don't Drone Me Bro" in very large letters on the roofs of their headquarters in protest... 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:26 | 3636207 NoDebt
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Yeah, kinda makes you wonder why Eric Holder needed those warrants anyway.  Just call up the NSA and say "hand it over."

Oh yeah, he just learned about it yesterday on the TV, like the rest of us.

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:13 | 3636326 TheReplacement
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He needed warrants because the evidence would be used in court.

They would not want to have warrants (paper trail) for any IRS style harrassment.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:15 | 3636331 disabledvet
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"tip of the iceberg." the President really has no TRUE idea what he is "looking at." in other words the full capability of the system is not being "shown" to him...since...well, more than likely "he's part of the system as well." ah, the good 'ol days of ZH to determine if you were man or machine. i'm sure if policy can even be conducted in such an environment actually. Sure sounds challenging to say the least. anywho "knowability" is impossible here folks...only "what is revealed." that's why this is the STARTING POINT...not some "DEFLECTION POINT" for something not to be known.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:42 | 3636829 post turtle saver
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Presidesnt of the USA doesn't hold the highest clearance in the secrecy hierarchy... this has been established in other articles & commentary some time ago. So yes, odds are he truly doesn't know the full scope and capability of the system in place and is, in fact, also a potential target of that system.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:18 | 3636187 Buckaroo Banzai
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#scandalanche

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:50 | 3636630 putaipan
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appologies to greenwald, tylers and the leaker.....it's a distraction from the tpp.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:03 | 3636790 lakecity55
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Anyone know why all the .ru sites in Russia are down?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:24 | 3636201 NoDebt
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Obama just heard about it on the news yesterday like everyone else.  He's very upset.

I'm sure there were hundreds of visits by NSA staffers to the White House the last few years, but they were just attending Easter Egg rolls.

Are still allowed to say the word "Easter"?  No?  OK, the Spring Egg festival.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:06 | 3636546 pods
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Well if we get a Chinaman in there, we won't even be able to say Easter Egg Roll.

pods

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 06:14 | 3636707 Helvetico
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Instead of "Easter" you need to say "Zombie Jesus Day." This way you can reach young, impressionable, TV-watching teens with the Gospel.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:32 | 3636046 A Lunatic
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So no probe into why the Constitutional protections were violated, only a probe into who opened their mouth........Who are the fucking criminals again........??

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:13 | 3636173 DeadFred
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These leaks are signaling the end game. Last summer at high school reunions I had the chance to talk with many old friends now in the intelligence community who all despised the President. The word coup was mentioned once more or less in jest. It seems they have now had enough. Benghazi likely had a big role in turning quiet distain to career jeopardizing leaking. Good luck to the regime tracing the leaks because no NSA insider would use Email or a phone.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:19 | 3636190 A Lunatic
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Historically, endgames tend to be long, drawn out affairs chock full of pain, misery, death, and other presently uncommon sufferings, oftentimes worse than death itself........

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:12 | 3636319 MrPalladium
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I am going to say it again. We are only 400 basis points on the long bond and 200 basis points on the one year note away from collapse of fedgov.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:46 | 3636764 Go Tribe
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Long bond at 7%? That's not going to happen soon. You think they've printed a flood? Get ready for the deluge.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:52 | 3636633 putaipan
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coup won't help....unless you acknowledge- .....it's a distraction from the tpp.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:59 | 3636590 putaipan
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arrest jeff greenblaum! n'existe sarc! off!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:18 | 3637243 IndyPat
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Gonna be a lot of probin' going on, yessiree bob!

Gray aliens might get jealous.

My advice to the dude that leaked this little turdlet?
Dump the whole pile of shit, hot and wet. Everything he's got, muy pronto.
He's going to be braiding Brady Manning's hair soon in some Supermax anyway, so why not go the whole 9?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:39 | 3636062 fonzannoon
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"Just as soon as X factor is over" Lol

Baitin!!!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:39 | 3636063 Caviar Emptor
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All citizens must denounce enemies of the state! 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:29 | 3636219 NoDebt
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Yes, agreed.  I'd like to turn in my neighbor, mostly so they don't come get me first.

I hear Prisim is NOT happy about my frequent postings on ZH.  I got a shitload of trouble to dig myself out from under.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:16 | 3636554 knukles
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I'm thinking about that neighbor lets his dog shit in my yard... And the other one leaves his garbage cans out. And the other one who never says hello

Fuckers gotta go

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:40 | 3636066 holdbuysell
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The fact that Google's Page had to drag his General Counsel into their statement recently speaks extraordinary volumes.

http://venturebeat.com/2013/06/07/google-prism/

'Do no evil'...my ass.

I'm not buying it.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:40 | 3636067 stant
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william benny x nsa blew this story over a year ago

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:43 | 3636077 Tyler Durden
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"everyone knew about the NSA superspy ambitions before, but with one major difference: it was a conspiracy theory....  now it is a conspiracy fact"

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:52 | 3636109 Atomizer
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Obama is taking the footpath of plausible deniability.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:55 | 3636117 alien-IQ
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the list of "conspiracy theories" that has become "conspiracy facts" is gonna end up being longer than a James Joyce novel.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 15:11 | 3637515 mvsjcl
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It's already longer than one of his sentences.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:03 | 3636146 A Lunatic
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Indeed, now it is proven that the Justice Department is really a taxpayer subsidized Crime Syndicate.......

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:27 | 3636360 disabledvet
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again.."JGB's go bidless on Sunday night" is my prediction. AGAIN. these aren't trading "halts." these are "trading stops" because not even Reserve Banks have the cash to buy. Everyone is waiting for the yen to tank and the whole thing to be engulfed in an orgy of worthless paper promises. "then it's off to Europe" where even more of the posers can go forth and do the same. everyone is hyperinflating at the same time...we'll see who the last one on the ice turns out to be. Russia looks pretty good cuz it doesn't have a huge population, already has more than enough resources to fall back on a base metal standard...and has the military to back that thing up. the USA doesn't even look close: we've used all our resources on housing stock which is rapidly being devalued because no one is living in these homes.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:46 | 3636517 WoodMizer
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Relax, Benny will just say Japan is contained, and throw it on the MasterCard. Oops, that one is maxed better use the Amex.

If Japan goes my money is on the dollar or pound going next. The euro can still monitize if the Germans will capitulate. Prediction would be easier if we could get real: unemployment data, inflation rates, bank balence sheets and price discovery in any market.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:46 | 3636832 lakecity55
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Has anyone thought these stories of utter corruption are coming out because "they" are getting ready for global economic collapse?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 10:13 | 3636932 smacker
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I can't resist sharing this with those who may not have seen it: http://flyto.zapto.org/Images/organised-crime.jpg

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 03:01 | 3636639 putaipan
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appologies to greenwald, tylers and the leaker.....it's a distraction from the tpp.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:22 | 3637251 IndyPat
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Will it be enough to make tinfoil fashionable on the runways and catwalks of Paris and Milan?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:42 | 3636074 nbsharma
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What has America come down to.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:01 | 3636140 pods
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Just another collapsing empire, albeit with high technology.

pods

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:33 | 3636225 NoDebt
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Fall of the Roman Empire, but with iPads.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:42 | 3636075 The Shootist
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What would it take to get these crooks impeached?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:54 | 3636111 JustPrintMoreDuh
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mass awakening of sheep ... followed by revolution ... in other words, dont hold your breath.   See you in the fema camps.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:01 | 3636138 The Shootist
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Remember when death panels were conspiracy theory but became fact? Then there were the FEMA camps, ammo stockpiling, body bags, plastic coffins...

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 01:18 | 3636557 knukles
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Every fucking conspiracy theory becomes fact

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 07:49 | 3636767 Go Tribe
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You know, that's the pattern here, isn't it? The surreal, found only in fiction writing, becoming daily reality. As if our nightmares are the new roadmap to the future.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:04 | 3636148 pods
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Impeached?

I think we are a bit past that.

Our government has proven again and again that it is incapable of being the guardian of our liberty, the very reason it was birthed.

What we have to do is be ready for the next slick debt based ponzi which they will foist upon us so that it may continue to operate.

No deficit spending, no fancy tools of a totalitarian state.

Broke bums don't take over the world.

pods

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 03:04 | 3636641 putaipan
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'Broke bums don't take over the world.'

 

i'd beg to differ with you asshole.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:13 | 3636325 TuesdayBen
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The Congress won't impeach first black POTUS just as you wouldn't knock a cute little kid off bike with training wheels - bad optics for Republicans. Obama's own party will have to have him step down.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:43 | 3636078 Judge Crater
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 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” 

? Benjamin Franklin, Memoirs of the life & writings of Benjamin Franklin

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:35 | 3636228 NoDebt
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Benjamin Franklin is now on the Terror Watch List.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:43 | 3636830 lakecity55
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At the rate they are going, I would not be surprised to see Dick dig up Ben's corpse, man, and waterboard it.

 

Fuck these bastards.

 

Let's take our Republic back!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:49 | 3636095 Seeking Beta
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O'bummer giving the middle finger to everyone.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:51 | 3636098 alien-IQ
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Actually, Glen Greewald did answer this question earlier today. It was asked by Amy Goodman as they both anticipated that the government would go after the reporters that wrote the story...and as you can plainly see, they were correct.

It's a very good interview. here it is: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35198.htm

As for this story of the government going after the reporters and the "leakers"...seriously, is ANYBODY here fucking surprised?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:38 | 3636232 NoDebt
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The Obama administration has an "enemies list" that would make Richard Nixon blush.  <Not my quote, but very true>

Lets start with 300 Million American citizens and add others in as we go along.

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:07 | 3636596 putaipan
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i am jeff greenwald! i aint no bradley manning.... but i will reprint!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:49 | 3636103 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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http://gizmodo.com/anonymous-just-leaked-a-trove-of-nsa-documents-511854773

Anonymous Just Leaked a Trove of NSA Documents

In the wake of last night’s revelation that everyone in the world has a creepy NSA-shaped stalker, defenders of online liberty and generally angry internet people Anonymous have leaked a treasure trove of NSA documents, including seriously important stuff like the US Department of Defense’s ‘Strategic Vision’ for controlling the internet.

The documents — 13 in total — were posted online, along with an accompanying message full of the normal Anonymous bluster: people won’t be silenced, they have the memory of trivia-master elephants, the governments of the world will fall, your average press release really.

The documents seem to mostly relate to PRISM and supporting operations, and mostly date from around 2008, supposedly not long after PRISM first reared its ugly head. One of the key things Anonymous has highlighted from the documents is the existence of an “intelligence-sharing network” that shares data gleaned from PRISM with “intelligence partners” around the world. Although we’re still in the process of combing through the documents, you can bet your last Bitcoin that ‘intelligence’ has been shared with British security services.

Hit up the documents for further details; just be warned that although this might look like the plot of a B-list movie starring Aston Kutcher, the docs themselves are incredibly dry and full of more acronyms than whatever presentation you should be working on. [Pastebin]

 

Information is information and those acronyms are useful. Happy truth hunting bitchez.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:55 | 3636115 Tyler Durden
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Most of those docs were public online previously but few were aware about the object of dicsussion: the Global Information Grid

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:09 | 3636162 Apostate2
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I was just going to post this. All public domain.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:39 | 3636220 DeadFred
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How many times today have I seen this "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to thedocs.hostzi.com"?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:22 | 3636809 lakecity55
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"In the fifth century of the interstellar era, the Empire of the Padishah Emperor, Saddam IV included over 500 worlds.

One of these was Earth, The Prison Planet."

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:51 | 3636838 post turtle saver
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... or, as I like to affectionately call it, SHODAN

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:55 | 3636118 Duc888
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Tyler, you can read this book....

http://www.amazon.com/Privacy-Sale-Computerization-Everyones-Private/dp/...

 

It spells out in no uncertain terms exactly what NSA has been cooking up 20 years ago!  So now we see the results.

 

Nothing new here.  This has been planned for well over 20 years.  No one gets into the top echelon of any major telecommunication firm, or computer portal unless they're willing to play by the rules.  This stuff makes me laugh even more at that shitbags in charge of Google.......as well as FB.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:36 | 3636380 disabledvet
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the claim was...and STILL IS...that "this is being done on foreigners not Americans." The WSJ just said in their editorial page today that "spying on Americans is good for business." but that is the GOVERNMENT spying on Americans "that is good for business" yes Full Retard Wall Street Journal? I mean "why not just come out and say it's good for business when the Government kills our journalists" Wall Street Journal? at least your editorial board's logic would finally be consistent...let alone be logical. Amazing. Government doesn't spy on Americans. PERIOD. That's the bright line of 9/11. I'm sure the whole "we only do it to our political enemies" will go over really well as well. unbelievable. this thing is going to blow...it already has...the folks are running away from that debt market like News Anchor with an ass on fire.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:57 | 3636124 Zer0head
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if ever there was a time for irony

 

this post from Google's LarryPage

with the URL shortened to 

 

https://twitter.com/google/status/343096289371766784

no Larry, g . co/UpYours

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:10 | 3636167 Urban Redneck
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Why is the every faggot member of the Geek Squad (and all his lawyers) talking about "access to their servers" when the very explicit allegation is access to their data flow (via their fiber optic lines)? 

 

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:24 | 3636348 ZerOhead
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Good point... not that they would really care about engaging in some Patriotic lying in the interests of 'National Security' however...

From The Saturday Guardian...

 

America's tech giants continued to deny any knowledge of a giant government surveillance programme called Prism, even as president Barack Obama confirmed the scheme's existence Friday.

With their credibility about privacy issues in sharp focus, all the technology companies said to be involved in the program issued remarkably similar statements.

All said they did not allow the government "direct access" to their systems, all said they had never heard of the Prism program, and all called for greater transparency.

In a blogpost titled 'What the…?' Google co-founder Larry Page and chief legal officer David Drummond said the "level of secrecy" around US surveillance procedures was undermining "freedoms we all cherish."

"First, we have not joined any program that would give the US government – or any other government – direct access to our servers. Indeed, the US government does not have direct access or a 'back door' to the information stored in our data centers. We had not heard of a program called Prism until yesterday," they wrote.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/07/google-facebook-prism-survei...

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:15 | 3636472 Urban Redneck
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Your google docs link with Facefuck and Google is "suspicously" not working for me

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-07/barack-milhous-obama-nixon#comm...

But further in the Guardian article Yahoo obfuscates with "direct access to our servers, systems, or network"

And over here we have more talk of "access to our servers" from AOL

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-07/obama-lying-about-big-brother#c...

I haven't seen text from the other three, but 4 out 7 that are taking the exact same defense w/ the exactly same wiggle room on deniability isn't an accident - someone had a damage control conference call (not that there is any less of an evidence chain than through email).

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:01 | 3636439 bkwaz4
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Download wireshark and learn how it works and you will understand how the tech firms can claim "no knowledge".  They just have to look the other way while the network packets are duplicated at interconnects. FB just tricks gullible sheep put into putting their own personal info into the system.  No FB means no goldmine of data to be mined. 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 00:38 | 3636505 Urban Redneck
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That would kill any plausible deniability, perhaps I should should download some SEC/DoJ porn instead.  But it would be impossible to ignore that volume "unaccounted for" traffic in a professional data center - that level of incompetence would be grounds for a class action lawsuit against the board and senior management...   

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:53 | 3636841 post turtle saver
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because servers are where the metadata analysis lives

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:56 | 3636125 Duc888
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""everyone knew about the NSA superspy ambitions before, but with one major difference: it was a conspiracy theory....  now it is a conspiracy fact"

 

Yesterdays tin is tomorrows nooz.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:12 | 3636600 putaipan
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i'm s'possed to make a nooz cap?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:57 | 3636129 q99x2
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Yeah right. Obama is going to shoot the messenger. That schmuck is too stupid to see that the laws he has been passing are being used to take him and Holder down. Next I expect Lindsey Graham and McCain to start to get hit. Once they realize what has hit them they will run like the dumb rats that they are.

It is known as PUNKing.

Morons.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 21:58 | 3636131 Catullus
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Whoever leaked PRISM is a hero.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:00 | 3636137 alien-IQ
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actually, under the new america, they would only be a hero if they tortured and drone bombed prism.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:02 | 3636788 lakecity55
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Hey, can anyone else log on to Breitbart?

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:03 | 3636139 One And Only
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Americans are too obsessed with plundering liberties such as the 2nd amendment to give two shits about restoring freedom. 

Don't forget Obama was elected. The people want this.

Has one person even resigned over all these scandals? FUCK NO. No one gives a shit.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:06 | 3636156 NOTW777
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elected?  those people that voted for him 4 or 5 times kinda of helped with the "election" not to mention his people working as poll monitors

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 09:03 | 3636855 Catullus
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Yes. The 20% of the total population represent "the people". There are 310 million people in this country. 65m voted for Obama. 60m voted for Romney. The other 180m or so didn't agree to anything

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:04 | 3636150 NOTW777
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LOL - i remember that last year or so there was a scandal about the WH leaking state secrets that was swept under the rug - guess that is still on the back burner

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:10 | 3636151 Money 4 Nothing
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Fuck you Obama and fuck you NSA for illegal tapping. The White House is listed as one of the tappers right here! Commi bitch.

Whitehouse-spy.pdf White House Lawful Spying Guide March 13, 2010

http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/online-spying.htm

 

 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:07 | 3636152 IamtheREALmario
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If Obummer was anything more than dope smoking, murdering, lying, arrogant, lazy asshole then what he says might mean something. But he is just another tool ... not actually someone important.

In a world where morals, ethics and respect for one another mattered, these things would be inconceivable. But what do you expect ... look at the people in government and on Wall Street and it is clear who is running things and the type of people they are.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:08 | 3636155 andrewp111
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The Administration should prosecute the journalists for Treason and insist on execution. What they did meets the Constitutional definition of Treason (....aid and comfort to the enemy.....). I want to see some reporters dangling on the end of a rope.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:45 | 3636247 Vooter
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LOL...the U.S. is circling the drain, you fucking coward, and it's HILARIOUS. Enjoy!

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:11 | 3636317 Everybodys All ...
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Is that you Big Sis? Tell the little brother in the WH I'm not scared.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 23:33 | 3636374 notadouche
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So what your essentially saying the journalist reporting facts to the American people in order to inform them of the privacy invasion is tantamount to "aid and comfort to the enemy".  So now it's really out in the open that the American people are THE ENEMY.  Good to have that on record.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:05 | 3636791 Ljoot
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mdb baby... is that you?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 08:37 | 3636825 lakecity55
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Nah, that has to be "Dick."

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:16 | 3636180 Melin
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"...on the path to tyranny the loss of rights..."

One doesn't lose rights, one can only have one's rights violated.  It's not merely semantic but imperative to understand when fighting to protect them. 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 02:17 | 3636604 putaipan
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"americans will sufocate under the loss of their freedoms" -o.b.l. while he was still alive and still not involved but knew some shit.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:24 | 3636200 Seasmoke
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We need more ESSO stations.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:25 | 3636203 Cabreado
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Running out of time to Focus energy on the 535, rather than the 1.
Once gone, you will never get the opportunity again.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:25 | 3636205 otto skorzeny
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Assange-mossad/CIA plant to front-run diversionary leaks.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:31 | 3636222 Yen Cross
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    I really hope some heads roll from all these scandals. Most people nowadays have the attention span of a 'Fruit Fly'.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:31 | 3636223 Atomizer
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"We'll Kill the Dollar!" . This will not end well for the globalist, they have forgotten the re-coining process that occurs at this stage in the same game repeated for centuries. Amusing.. how lost strategic measures are disremembered over time.

 

The terrorism and National Security itinerary no longer works. We can also see your thoughts before you type. Goodnight Janet, blows a kiss…. 

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:35 | 3636229 The Shootist
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Haven't heard a lot from Janet "Man-Pants" Napolitano lately... I hope she's sweating.

Fri, 06/07/2013 - 22:37 | 3636231 tony bonn
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why is anyone surprised that this kenya born indonesian citizen would do anything but what his rockefeller nazi puppet masters want?

the nyt and wapo owe richard nixon a massive and huge apology, crook that he was. they defend their indonesian boy, give a little wrist slap, wink, and it all goes away. they defended and promoted this pathological power hungry whore, all the while he was spying on their totalitarian loving newsfakers.

nixon at his most venal criminal worst doesn't even light a candle next to this kreig light of satanic evil.

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