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Shoot The PRISM-Gate Messenger: Obama To Launch Criminal Probe Into NSA Leaks
Suddenly embroiled in too many scandals to even list, and humiliated by a publicly-exposed (because everyone knew about the NSA superspy ambitions before, but with one major difference: it was a conspiracy theory.... now it is a conspiracy fact) surveillance scandal that makes Tricky Dick look like an amateur, earlier today, as expected, Obama came out and publicly declared "I am not a hacker" and mumbled something about "security", "privacy" and "inconvenience." He went on to explain how the government "welcomes the debate" of all three in the aftermath of the public disclosure that every form of electronic communication is intercepted and stored by the US government (now that said interception is no longer secret, of course) but more importantly how it is only the government, which is naturally here to help, that should be the ultimate arbiter in deciding what is best for all.
Yet the PRISM-gate scandal which is sure to only get worse with time as Americans slowly realize they are living in a Orwellian police state, meant Obama would have to do more to appease a public so furious even the NYT issued a scathing editorial lamenting the obliteration of Obama's credibility. Sure enough, the president did. Reuters reports that the first course of action by the US government will be to... shoot the messenger.
Reuters reports that "President Barack Obama's administration is likely to open a criminal investigation into the leaking of highly classified documents that revealed the secret surveillance of Americans' telephone and email traffic, U.S. officials said on Friday."
And how did Reuters learn this: from "law enforcement and security officials who were not authorized to speak publicly."
The mimetic absurdity of the narrative is just too surreal to even contemplate for more than a minute before bursting out in laughter: the administration's plans to launch criminal charges against those who "leaked" its Nixonian espionage masterplan involving every US (and world) citizen using the Internet, revealed by another group of sources leaking in secret. Pure poetry.
Of course, this was inevitable - once you start down the path of a totalitarian surveillance superstate, you don't stop until all dissent is crushed: either peacefully through submission to debt serfdom, or, well, not so peacefully.
It was unclear on Friday whether a complaint had been submitted by the publicity-shy National Security Agency, which was most directly involved in the collection of trillions of telephone and email communications.
However, one U.S. official with knowledge of the situation said that given the extent and sensitivity of the recent leaks, federal law may compel officials to open an investigation.
A criminal probe would represent another turn in the Obama administration's battle against national security leaks. This effort has been under scrutiny lately because of a Justice Department investigation that has involved searches of the phone records of Associated Press journalists and a Fox News reporter.
But what's worst, is that it may all turn very personal against the same journalists who dared to divulge the NSA's spy-op:
Journalists involved in The Guardian and Washington Post articles have reported in depth on WikiLeaks, the website known for publishing secret U.S. government documents.
The Post report on the PRISM program was co-written by Laura Poitras, a filmmaker who has been working on a documentary on WikiLeaks, with the cooperation of its founder Julian Assange, and who last year made a short film about Bill Binney, a former NSA employee who became a whistleblowing critic of the agency.
Last year, the web magazine Salon published a lengthy article by the author of the Guardian report, Glenn Greenwald, accusing U.S. authorities of harassing Poitras when she left and re-entered the United States. Greenwald also has written frequently about Assange.
The Guardian and Post stories appeared in the same week that U.S. Army Private First Class Bradley Manning went on trial in Maryland accused of leaking hundreds of thousands of classified documents to WikiLeaks.
In an email to Reuters on Friday, Poitras rejected the notion that the trial had any impact on the timing of her story.
"I am fully aware we are living in a political climate where national security reporting is being targeted by the government, however, I don't think fear should stop us from reporting these stories," Poitras wrote.
"To suggest that the timing of the NSA PRISM story is linked in any way to other events or stories I'm following is simply wrong. Like any journalist, I have many contacts and follow multiple stories."
Kris Coratti, a Washington Post spokeswoman, said the timing of the paper's publication of Poitras' story had nothing to do with Manning's trial and that Assange had played no role in arranging or encouraging the story.
Greenwald did not respond to emailed requests for comment. The Guardian's editor-in-chief, Alan Rusbridger, declined to comment.
Needless to say, once political retribution for publicizing the nuances of the police state becomes a personal affair targeting the very journalists whose task is to provide much needed information, the first amendment is basically finished.
Alas, on the path to tyranny the loss of rights and privileges, let alone the occasional amendment written on a very old parchment and which nobody follows or cares about, is inevitable.
And it is up to the citizens of such a tyrannical government to reclaim their nation. Which they will... Just as soon as The Bachelorette/Big Brother (no pun intended)/X Factor is over and the next disability check clears.
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He continues becasuse Americans have no testes, no cojones.
+1.
Your up/down isn't working, bud.
Traditional Americans are a defeated people. Obama's election was a symbol of that fact. Even the most harmless attempts by traditional Americans to organize a political response to what's taken place in this country, as with the Tea Party, are met with government intimidation and force. I don't know what the people will do with this government, but the government is preparing for armed conflict with the people.
Yes, amazing after all this comes out, plus the dhs tanks, billions of rounds of ammo, police converted into a fully military-capable force, Boston shut down, no jobs, etc etc so many have not figured out these sociopaths are actually, really, planning to kill at least half of us.
I would leave, but where do you go?
Nope, may as well make your stand here. Nobody lives forever.
Besides, there is NO guarantee the sociopathic killers and their mulatto puppet will triumph.
We may beat them, but the US will become a balkanized version of its former self. I can handle that if I live.
It's real, and it's coming, soon.
the cold civil war is about to go hot
Why does the only organization designed to, and charged with, keeping the man in check remain defunct and defiant?
More importantly, why does the populace -- including ZH'rs -- not care?
Why do those who purport to care neglect the prescribed and only force to keep the man in check?
Does that come from hubris too, or is it simply willfull ignorance?
Shave his head and look for three 6's
See Stalinist Russia for the template of how traitors (anyone who looks at the wrong person the wrong way) are to be dealt with.
The informer network at its height was so big that it was said the only time a person could speak freely was in bed at night... And maybe not even then. Every workplace was assumed, with very good reason, to have at least one stool-pigeon, as was every jail cell. Had the Terror continued another one to two years, every adult in the USSR would have implicated, statistically.
This is what happens when you obliterate the political distinctions between person, people, and state. The interests of the state are said to the interests of the people, anyone who goes against them is therefore an ...enemy of the people.
You ain't seen nothin' yet.
Obama is a desperate lying muther fucking piece of trash......
Affirmative!
Don't count on Congress to do anything - they're in the midst of intern-oogling season....
Obama ... "I won't have this going on under my watch" ... well maybe mr. president if you were watching things would go better. On second thought carry on Commander
All you tin foil hatters.
The president loves you. He is your sovereign, you are his people.
THe child president is a lying POS!
NSA!, did you get that?
Here are the NSA slides in question:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/
he would go a long way in repairing his damaged credibility by burning valerie jarett at the stake. just sayin
a real live witch hunt, with a happy ending
Can't happen. Dear Leader doesn't do anything without Valerie Jarett's approval.
So, the strategy is Deflect & Redirect, Duck & Hope?
The investigation is into the 'leak', not the wrongdoing.
State vs Everyone.
O'bomba, Kissinger, Clintons, Bush tribe, the Trilateral Commission of Rockefeller and Rothschild nazionists wanting to subjugate jew, christian, secularists in this USA.
NO. We will not go to your shower.
Call out the 'Praetorian Guard', someone just gave the Emperor a wedgie .
The New World Order is here. The 8th king rules.
DOJ & FBI Raid News Media Offices After Releasing an Alarming Story on President Obama! http://nationalreport.net/doj-fbi-raid-news-media-offices-after-releasin... …
Our Armed Forces are dying for corporatists in foreign lands, so the very least that the Press can do is challenge the corporatists at home who profit most, lie most, hate most, and most of all use the USA.
No surrender.
That is not a real story. Yet...........
That whole site is dubious at best.
Yeah, but the key to this whole fiasco are the records of Barry X.
If we can get ahold of them, the entire corrupt facade will fall.
You do realize that this has been on for at least 8 years and to a lesser degree considerably longer...
How far down the slippery slope must we slide before the outrage becomes widespread?
Man, it's turtles all the way down!
Will be very disappointed if i /we can't earn some payback shorting yahoo facebook and the rest of these sellouts for their treachery.
No credible individual or company are going to want the negative publicity being linked to traitors.
This is where you hurt fascists ( in the pocket ). We will see who bails in the coming days and begins pulling the tyrants revenue streams.
Any cash i do make i will donate a % to the guardian/ others / individuals etc.
Could be the gamechanger on this house of ponzi for us gold/silver bugs also.
Any Z/H would appreciate your advice also on the financials.
Thursday, when the Verizon story broke, VZ closed up over 2% on the day.
Does The Guardian get a Pulitzer or do they get investigated for 'financial irregularities'?
You should look into the "relationship" between The Guardian and Julian Assange. Turned pretty nasty, and they did a very good character assassination on him. The Guardian is a fully paid up member of the club, don't ever forget that: all those leaks were framed & edited to present a narrative (and certainly vetted first).
But, they're about the best you get in the MSM, so worth reading.
It's funny as hell to me that some people still seem to think(or at least they act like) that this state of affairs didn't begin until Obama became President in 2009.
Have they been under a rock? The American Surveillance State has been hardcore since at least the 1950s. Only the technology has changed.
Which political faction/team holds the White House/Congress makes no difference.
Prisim, Bengazi, Fart and furrious, IRS, taping phones of reporters, a laundry list of lies, and these are only the scandals that make it to the outside world. Imagine what the Obama scandal iceburg looks like below the water line.
You can bet your last dollar that the British GCHQ/SIS is up to its neck in PRISM and other spying activities run or controlled by US Govt agencies. It has been said that the British SIS & US Spy Agencies are actually "two sections of the same organisation with a common reporting structure".
Last night, GCHQ were asked to provide a talking head by Channel 4 News but declined: "nobody is available". This morning, Sky News are reporting that GCHQ has been ordered by MPs to produce a 'full report' about what use it makes of PRISM data, as the Guardian reports today that GCHQ has had access to PRISM data since July 2010. This report will amount to a carefully written heap of bollix which neither admits nor denies their involvement in spying on citizens. MPs want to know whether their use of PRISM was authorised by a Minister. GCHQ say any action they carry out is "necessary, legal and proportionate". That's alright then.
This story will die very quickly in the UK because the political filth will hide behind National Security and War on Terrorism. All to protect us from the bad guys. Apart from that, the Duke of Edinburgh is in hospital and also Mandella. TV News cameras are stationed outside the Duke's hospital eager to report every grunt.
He is even dumber politically than I expected. He actually wants to get the secret police mad at him? That is like training and arming a borderline psychopath and then knocking him down and kicking him. There is no telling what he will do to you once he gets back on his feet.
I guess he thought he could actually control this cadre. With all the power he has given them it is likely no one but sunshine can
He better hope they don't take any more leaks
Can't we all just continue this discussion later in the FEMA camps? I'm a little tired right now.
I thought these were the FEMA camps?
Hey, anybody else having trouble logging in to Limbaugh's site?
.gov is looking in the mirror, nobody likes what it sees there-so .gov pretends we did it all in good faith, why no motive other than the welfare of the people. see no evil hear no evil speak no evil or you pay.
And in typical fashion, the Admin wants to take a LEAK on this whole mess, and extinguish it.
Well, it may have worked on machine gun barrels in the Korean war, but it's not going to work here.
Poetic justice is in motion. People are ... pissed !
Total Information Awareness - original logo
quote from: http://epic.org/privacy/profiling/tia/
Another gift resulting from the lies of the official 9/11 narrative.
s/ But that's ok I'm told that what happened on 9/11 no longer matters. /s
Marxist Marxist on the call
who's the biggest clown of all
Geithner, Holder, Napalitano.
Why no it's you ... voting for the brah.
Nothing to do with Marxism.
You got brainwashed during the Cold War and, of course, you have never read Marx.
Haven't you heard (or haven't you been sheepled into a herd) that Islam is THE bogeyman today.
Utter nonsense - just like the "communist threat" was - but at least get up to date.
THE threat today is Fascism, e.g. the corporations of Wall Str and the White House being joined at the hip ... the kind of situation which Marx was totally opposed to.
Agree with your comments, and in many respects Fascism is little different to Communism on steroids, where corporate/personal interest replaced the (phony) national interest. Both models are totalitarian, both employ virtually identical brutal tactics to achieve and retain power over the people and to impoverish them. Notice how the Russian communist system gave way to quasi-fascism. Ditto in China.
You must be one of the useful idiots supporting the other side of the duopoly.
der anschluss zwischen Amerika und Deutschland abgeschlossen ist, Mein Führer!
Sieg Heil!
Sieg Heil!
Sieg Heil!
I could start to correct your German, but I won't. Try this for size.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAfKFKBlZbM
Better explain: "Reich ins Heim!" to him ... ;-)
This didn't take long.
http://reason.com/blog/2013/06/07/our-open-surveillance-debate-doj-wants-t
Many tech-savvy, privacy-minded experts knew (as Brian Doherty noted earlier) that the National Security Agency was engaged in significant amounts of surveillance, even if the full extent was not clear (or not validated to the degree that it has just become).
Because of the efforts of President Barack Obama's Administration to quash any release of even a smidgen of information about the government’s surveillance program, his comment today that he looked forward to a “debate” on the issue was met with skepticism. Then, hours later, the Department of Justice responded to a lawsuit by the Electronic Frontier Foundation trying to stop the release of a secret court opinion connected to the very surveillance program about which Obama claimed to want to debate. Via the Huffington Post:
The DOJ isn’t even arguing that the opinion must be sealed to protect national security. It’s just that us silly citizens won’t understand it.
RT interviews William Binney NSA "stellar wind" whisleblower.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLa0ayrNok4
http://publicintelligence.net/binney-nsa-declaration/
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/8562
“We know all this already,” I stated. He looked at me, giving me a look like I’ve never seen, and actually pushed his finger into my chest. “You don’t know jack,” he said, “this is bigger than you can imagine, bigger than anyone can imagine. This administration is collecting names of sources, whistle blowers and their families, names of media sources and everybody they talk to and have talked to, and they already have a huge list. If you’re not working for MSNBC or CNN, you’re probably on that list. If you are a website owner with a brisk readership and a conservative bent, you’re on that list. It’s a political dissident list, not an enemy threat list,” he stated.
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/8562
“We know all this already,” I stated. He looked at me, giving me a look like I’ve never seen, and actually pushed his finger into my chest. “You don’t know jack,” he said, “this is bigger than you can imagine, bigger than anyone can imagine. This administration is collecting names of sources, whistle blowers and their families, names of media sources and everybody they talk to and have talked to, and they already have a huge list. If you’re not working for MSNBC or CNN, you’re probably on that list. If you are a website owner with a brisk readership and a conservative bent, you’re on that list. It’s a political dissident list, not an enemy threat list,” he stated.
If we hang Obama for treason. We must not forget to hang Bush and Clinton as well.
No one is going to hang the Marxist con man. Half the country doesn't see him as a problem and the other half have the leadership of a couple of dimwit ten year olds. I just wonder if he ever leaves office on his own accord in three years. That will be the key moment.
It's bad, people...Really bad. The cameras are everywhere...
I just got a notice from DOJ that I need more fiber in my diet.
most people I have talked to on the subject find it a minor nuisance, & quote the old standard; If you're doing nothing wrong... maddening
Me to, had a conversation with a farmer friend tonight who took that line. I asked him how he would feel if he were considering bidding to buy or lease a further block of land-perhaps he would discuss it by phone or e mail with his partners or aaountant? Perhaps they would talk numbers? What if a powerful corporation with deep government connections was also interested, or even became interested as a result of his communications becoming known to them? Would he be disadvantaged? What if they did not even need to outbid him, but simply organise a tax investigation of his operation, tying him in red tape and expense while they bought it without competition?
I an actually beginning to feel sad for you poor fools,who remainin the USA. But, I am sure that I will recover.
To pharaphrase:
"I can no longer sit back and allow terrorist infiltration, terrorist indoctrination, terrorist subversion, and the international terrorist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."
Wow, I guess I made a mistake coming here for intelligent conversation.
Showing up unprepared is always a mistake, at least you have the intelligence to realize it.
More and more I am reminded of Eisenhowers famous Military Industrial Complex speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Woke up at 3am with the inspiration to go register PrismPlanet.com, but already taken; with the increasing civilian awareness of this quickly deteriorating country, you gotta be on things right away.
I agree. Rather than point to particular officials, such as Bush and Obama, it might be worthwhile assuming that the government itself has an interest that can encroach on the liberties of its citizens. There are of course legal opinions on the taking of troves of personal data. Here is an ethical analysis: http://www.thewordenreport.blogspot.com/2013/06/verizon-reporting-phone-logs-of-people.html
The American Government is always right.
Everyone else, unless they agree with us, are wrong.
That is just how it is.
If you can't see that, we might just end up killing you.
Just so you know.
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/8562#more-8562
Another theory bound to come true?
Never in my many decades have I ever felt that I was suddenly being made an offer that I couldn't refuse, but I'm becoming very aware of what it's like to live in a dictatorship, where if you refuse the ruler's offer of becoming a 'made member' of his administrative mob, and a loyal, soft-spoken member of his 'base', everything you do can be deemed 'wrong', and being 'impriZmed' the likely consequence
"Obama to launch criminal probe into NSA leaks"
Where is the criminal prosecution of the bankers? That is so much more important.
That should read "Lunch with the criminals" Somehow got misquoted.
' i am not a hacker ' i iz free spam.
I hope the leaker steps forward and tells the world he leaked the information and seeks protection under the Whistleblower Act because the USA government has violated the constitutional rights of every American. Next, I hope millions of Americans would stand behind him and protect his back.
wikipedia: The Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989 is a United States federal law that protects federal whistleblowers who work for the government and report agency misconduct. A federal agency violates the Whistleblower Protection Act if agency authorities take (or threaten to take) retaliatory personnel action against any employee or applicant because of disclosure of information by that employee or applicant. Whistleblowers may file complaints that they believe reasonably evidences a violation of a law, rule or regulation; gross mismanagement; gross waste of funds; an abuse of authority; or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety.
Would american citizens stand behind this hero?
I am wondering if the Obama administration used this collected information against Chief Justice John Roberts over ObamaCare? If you remember, Chief Justice John Roberts had authored a verdict against Obamacare being constitutional before he authored the illogical verdict that Obamacare was constitutional in the 5 - 4 decision. Blackmail would explain his change.
It'll be hilarious watching Obama throw himself in jail.
Maybe the average citizen will get mad enough when they realize that the NSA is watching them beat off to American Idol in their living room.
Investigate? They have been investigating everything forever, but didn't have a clue about a couple of Ruskies with some pressure cookers, or some Arabs who only wanted to learn how to fly, not land.
Its good that they are making such a brouhaha out of this, as it is just what is needed for the Streisand Effect. And... the leaks become a flood. (One can hope.)
You give stupid people some really cool stuff, they are still stupid.
fwiw- http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/55749
TORProject.org Hope to see those on the dark side...
Mi luchador Sun Tzu Flung Poo says defeat su enemia without engaging in battle. Both Sun Tzu and Hegel Bagel luchadors decided to team up for a serious tagteam experience on the public, uh, I mean the audience.
Si, I finally decided to allow the multitudes know that muy feo me is listening to them all the time…so better watch out and feel some real muy fuerte FEAR!! Aye aye aye, better not discuss your dilemma, I might just be eavesdropping! I want the ringside audience to piss their pantalones.
Tell you a secret… shhhh, our algorhythms suck and we are not omnipotent, omniscient, or omnivorous. We want to believe we are, but we’d rather have YOU believe. We talk about how the loose anagram of NAZI has a great acronym and how their 'itchy-lon' listens in to everything you say, we have backdoors into all your computers, tracking devices on your phones, convex lens detectors that allow us to see what you are looking or aiming at, and soon to announce implants that should really make you shiver. We know that our grande muscles, no matter how we market them, are also our weaknesses. That’s the offensive jockstrap that you smell. Do you feel it tightening around su cabesa, your head as you read? We know that most the dummies know that we have this capability. It’s not a secret. We know, that if you had the right DNA, you’d automatically consider feeding us a ton of horseshit , cangada – then, we wouldn’t know what to do (like some of you did in the Vietnam debacle when you registered fake draftees). But no, what a disappointment you’ve been. We’re not even entertained anymore. All we have to do is make it inconvenient for you to resist, and oye, you show us your exposed estomago. We know you hate inconvenience. Chinga! You could walk away from the ring on your cloven hoofs today!
Viva El Luchador!
What is, "We welcome the debate".
Answer to the question, "What does Obama say when caught doing something illegal?"
This is becoming almost as clear an indicator that he's lying as when he says, "Let me be clear..."
Hope and change?haHa!! its more of the same...
If designated institutions are incapable of being the watchdogs then the people ought to takeover and fulfill that function in a democracy,if we could even call ours that.
The "president" is going to launch an investigation? Shouldn't he be more concerned with becoming a citizen of the United States first?
Also, the other day I forgot to pick up something at the store. Can I call up the NSA & ask them what my wife said in the conversation they were illegally and treasonously listening too?
This government is rogue and illegitimate.
Impeach & Prosecute
All the recent hype, Benghazi, gun control, Syria, is all a rope a dope to distract us from the criminal amnesty bullshit the traitors are going to dump on us.
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