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Bill Gross On Obama On Bush
Since everything now is metadata (stored, catalogued and archived by Big Brother), here is a sub-140 character snippet by Gross on Obama on Bush. The bond king appears not very happy that the NSA knows ahead of his daily tweets if he is buying or selling bonds. That said, we too dislike hypocrisy... even if sometimes said hypocrisy comes in the form of buying bonds while telling the world the great bond bull market is over.
Gross: Surveillance policy of Bush 42 “puts forward a false choice btw the liberties we cherish & the security we provide.” B. Obama 2007
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It's the Bush (sr), Clintoon, Shrub, Bath House Barry administration. All workiin' for the same crew.
But yea, keep votin'!
hahahahahahahaha
NSA training film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG5Qk-jB0D4
Expat, gun violence in US has plummeted.
70% of all murders in US are committed with a gun. 75% of those are committed with hand guns. Gun violence (number of crimes committed with a gun) is down sharply and so is the murder rate, but these statistics are somewhat misleading.
Gun murder is down from 1973 because of lower numbers of assaults but also because of much greater rate of saving shooting victims. Those who would have died back in the 70's, 80's and 90's are being saved.
Overall gun crime is lower but we are looking at it from a sickening baseline. The recessions and post-Vietnam trauma of the period as well as the crack "epidemic" contributed heavily to record murder rates. But crowing about declining gun violence from such high levels is not particularly sane or productive.
Every year 30 000 Americans are killed by guns. America has far and away the highest gun murder rate in the civilized world.
but I suppose that in order to preserve our freedoms, we need free, unfettered access to handguns, assault rifles, and 30 round clips.
And, yes, I have a hard time reconciling our creeping facism with the need to protect our civil rights with whatever means we can use. Of course, if you really think you can protect yourself from the government with your AR-15 and Glock, you are seriously deluded.
I couldn't care less how people are killed, cars are far more dangerous. Most of those are suicides anyways. It's all demographcs as it relates to crime and nothing to do with the size of the magazines.
And how exactly would you decide to protect yourself?
Maybe you can use a couple national geographic mags to fend off the really bad guys! The maps might be a good distraction as well!
Guns kill right? And nothing else is used for nefarious means?
President Barack Obama defended the counterterrorism methods on Friday and said Americans need to "make some choices" in balancing privacy and security.
"...and said Americans need to "make some choices" in balancing privacy and security..."
That sounds fairly reasonable. Then he finishes with a thinly-veiled threat to potential skeptics among the little people at around 24:14 -
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/obama-defends-data-spying-and-impact-on-privacy-h79ot2W5QwKJb2_1MMAHZw.html
Ever hear any leader suggest to the little people that "...we have some problems here..."? That typically means imminent, unavoidable SHTF for the little people, not the leader.
Pew Research polls from March show that most U.S. citizens do not trust the government, and fewer still trust congress.
You can make two conclusions: 1) The fans and wheelbarrows they're moving into the room are a reaction to the problem, and 2) Obama and the Fed Family will not be in the room when the problem starts getting solved.
I see Rand Paul is trying to push this NSA case into the SCOTUS. He is a disgrace to the Paul name.
I'll show you. I'll have a corrupt, Constitution-shredding Executive Branch judged by a corrupt, Constitution-shredding Judicial Branch.
Sounds like a good idea to me:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/09/rand-paul-nsa_n_3411587.html
Every shitty deal America has gotten over the last 100+ years carries the full weight of Supreme Court rulings supporting their legality. Rand Paul is another wolf in sheep's clothing doing his part to further cement the downfall of America. Watch and see.........
Imagine that, politicians say anything in the fucking world that they don't actually believe to get elected.
Idiot Obama can't even get the presidential order right. GWBush is 43 (Not 42 as that was Clinton). People deride the birthers but dammit, Obama thinks we have 57 states and doesn't know the order of the last few presidents? The dude was a Manchrian candidate and his whole bio has been manufactured or he clearly is propped up with about 30 more IQ points than he deserves.
Reagan was right at least about one thing. . "Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
I scanned my BIRF Certficate on Friday, and everything was on one level, and the pixels all were the same.........
Hey, cut the guy some slack dude! You probably wouldn't know that stuff either if you had gone to school in Indonesia. Do you know how many political divisions there are in Indonesia?
I don't know about you but I'm starting to like this Bill Gross guy.
You can find his rather lengthy comments in "Investment Outlook" on the PIMCO page. Over the last year Gross has become increasingly pessimistic in his overall view of the Fed and other central banks. He has also warned repeatedly of "hair cuts" for everyone on the way. However enlightened his comments may appear, in reality he has done the exact opposite stating if there is only one game in town you play it. The truth is no, you don't have to play it at all.
Well he is a fund manager/businessman after all, not a politician. Can't blame him for wanting to make money. The fact that he openly criticizes the POTUS is a point in his favor, since it's bound to annoy at least some of his customers.
I hear ya. I think Gross wants or intends to be a politician, but I could be completely wrong.
I still wanna know if the DOJ can investigate itself if I can audit my own taxes when Oblowhard's IRS goons come knocking at my door for daring to read zerohedge.
Let’s look at this in context.
1) 1) You recall for the past couple of years Homeland Security has stated that the greater terrorist threat is not from abroad, but will likely to come from right-wing, home-grown extremists. Further, government employees understandably would be most fearful of harm to themselves – fear of another Timothy McVie.
2) 2) Ideological extremists, by their nature, cannot comprehend the positions of those who hold opposing views and hence they conclude that those who disagree with them must possess nefarious intentions and are inherently evil.
3) 3) You should also recall that there was a period of time leading up to the election when progressives began to openly question the Constitution, stating it was an archaic document, written by white men, in an era of slavery, not representative of present day realities, etc.
4) 4) Until recently, the Main Stream Media which shares the progressive belief system, both idolized Obama and demonstrated an open contempt for conservatives (see #2 above). The Obama Administration knew it would not be criticized and hence it became increasingly emboldened to bring pressure upon its opponents.
Within this framework of suspicion, fear and contempt - in an administration in which many hold very strong ideological beliefs - it is not unreasonable to presume that NSA is spying on domestic citizens and casting a wide net.
It is also within this framework that it is reasonable to conclude that government agencies, IRS, EPA, OSHA, DOJ, Interior, etc. are targeting individuals and organizations who they view as evil or threatening. For example, it is now clear that the strange invasion of the Gibson Guitar Company by the DOJ and Department of Interior in 2011, based on a little- known, never-used, convoluted, 100 year old law having to do with importing exotic wood, is evidence of this targeting.
So, yes, we are being monitored, and yes, our Constitutional rights are at risk. (And yes, I have certainly made enough statements in this posting to light up the NSA algos!)
If you can't bring the mountain to Mohammed, then bring Mohammed to the mountain.
Open borders, wholesale patsies, Saudi nods-and-winks, dual-citizenshippery, thousands of dead "voters" and Manchurian Douches.
Still, "they" do not come.
Please allow me to correct you sir. We do not have Constituional Rights, we have God-Given rights that The Constitution protects by definingbthe limits of governmental power.
This is an extremely important distinction. Our rights do not come from the government, or from the most incredible document ever written they come from The Creator.
All of the 535 and SCOTUS are at least complicit, if not progenitors, of treason; primarily the abrogation of the Bill of Rights and US sovereignty. That this treason is palpable and part of a bigger agenda can be seen from the fact that the Obama BC, SS#, and Draft Regisration documents have been proven to be fraudulent beyond any reasonable doubt, and yet none of our "protectors of freedom" will pursue adjudication.
Bill should cough up some money for the NSA for the treasonous and criminal records of congress members, administration members JP Morgan, GS and DOJ members and not worry about it.
Americans want to fix their problems nice and easy. They think they are idfferent than other nations that have to go thru revolutions, insurrections and coups. But we are not different. The ballot box doesn't work. If you really care about the future of your country,family and self, you will admit that unless you are willing to sacrifice comfort, you are part of the problem. Mass civil disobedience, withholding you production and ultimately revolution is the only avenue for change we have left. But so few are willing to participate, they prefer a bitch session on the internet while they are watching cable TV, eating out at their favorite restaraunts and shopping for useless trinkets. You will do this right up to the day you realize you and your children are totally fucked. Disgusting population
democraps = repubican lite
I have to give the repubicans a shout out. They let you know right off the bat they are looking out for the rich. The democraps are the big liars, they lay out the, "I feel your pain" BS while they screw you over just they same.
Same as it ever was.
so that's why "Bush's tax cuts for the rich" cut the tax rates MORE for the lower and middle class taxpayer..........
Too many people still believe stupid liberal media propaganda.
Republicans are the party of working people, who make America work, wheras Democrats are the Party of the ticks and the leeches, who suck the lifeblood from the productive.
Excellent observations by Peggy Noonan
http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/06/08/the-era-of-metadata/?mod=WSJ...
Perhaps finally time for digital laws...heard that for years but again spell out the IT Infrastructure to be legal and what is not legal. PBS has done a good job on this and hey the whole country knows what meta data is now too:) Yes it gets more complicated but what is not today. They use the verbiage here where as if specific technologies and their reach were spelled out, well a different world. The video links from PBS are good as they show the big fail with the NSA predictive analytics in Las Vegas and even the FBI speaking here is asking for guidelines, what do you want more security or privacy? He's a citizen too that failsl under ths auspice. Watch the older ATT&T video too, very interesting on the tech whistle blower and why I give his story some credit, it is not irractional magpie stuff like what we hear out of DC.
Remember it's private companies contracted to the government with all the data capabilities too, not in house talent and what else and where else are they using this data...we don't know...maybe they are and maybe they are not?
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/06/nsa-data-mining-opens-need-for-di...
On the magpies in DC...we really need smarter folks both elected and appointed...restore the non partisan office of technology assessment I say, soon. At least give the Senators and House a chance to partake in getting educated instead of being chirping magpies when they are on the floor:) With everything nearly free, including money being created with software well what's next? We need balance wiht the real world and the world of software too as we have seen over and over that all algorithms and models don't play out like they were designed and lot of folks made a lot of money with those that lied and moved money and duped all the process.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/06/nearly-free-everything-digitally....
Gross certainly strikes me as a man that is ahead of the curve! Perhaps we should nominate him for another Captain Obvious award.
On the other hand (speaking like a real economist) Gross quotes the false choice. I'd like to expand on that false choice theme. It seems the voters (dead or alive) have entrusted Obama to make these false choices for them. We always worried that totalitarians would wind up making all of our choices for us. Now it seems they have run out of those and are now having to manufacture false choices to make for us.
You are Being Spied Upon Now
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-demand-president-obama-resi...
idiots of america voted the POS POTUS into office. idiots of america still have no issues with this fascist sociopath murderer from hell.
yaaaaaaawn...........
I really do get tired of saying it, but I hope things will change and someone will take the bait.........
What HASN'T Obama lied about?
Hey Gross, Bush has been gone for 5 years,. End the blaming and direct your attention to the tyrant you helped put in office.
http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=FUCK+THE+NSA#q=FUCK%20THE%20NSA&c...
It was a false choice. Barry fixed it. Your freedom is now toast.
Obama is a politician first - he is no different than any other.
Rules to get elected:
1) Say whatever it takes to get elected - placate the populus by telling the majority what they want to hear
2) When in office do whatever you want without consequences of (1). When called out blame it on others.
Remember during the "campaign" when Hilary and obama went to the Bilderberg conference? They were shown the holy grail... Both are believers and lobotomized puppets. Ben Franklin said THOSE WILLING TO GIVE UP FREEDOM FOR SECURITY ... WILL WIND UP WITH NEITHER...