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"You Have Over-Stepped Your Boundaries, Sir"
Submitted by Mark J. Grant, author of Out of the Box,
Perhaps you have noted in your life, as I have in mine, that denial is often the preface to justification.
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
-Benjamin Franklin
A government, any government, the American government, can justify its actions based upon national security. It is an often used tactic that is supposed to explain and rationalize the actions of those in power. It is not a Republican tactic or a Democrat tactic rather it is a tactic used by politicians who wish to control and contain its citizens where retention of power is a higher authority than individual rights. History has shown that only in times of extreme national duress, such as war, that is this a justifiable argument.
“As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights. Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions.”
-James Madison
It is not often that my commentary concerns itself with the Founding Fathers of our country. I am afraid that most days I am concerned with the more mundane existence of markets and preservation of capital and even of making the occasional dollar when it can be done. I also generally, except as it defines the markets, do not enter into the fray of the right or wrong, the moral justification, of the actions of governments. This is quite a dangerous space where motivations and agendas can and should be called into question.
Having said this then I will state that I have no political agenda and that my sole motivation is what I consider fundamental to the country which is the individual rights ascribed to the people in the formation of America. One document is the Constitution and one is the Bill of Rights which protects the citizens from the intrusion of the government. This is the bedrock of America. This is the terra firma, the firm ground, of the United States.
“Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.”
-Thomas Jefferson
For the citizens of our country there is no justification, no national security assertion, that will dissuade us from the premise that our current government, in listening to every phone call and reading every transmission on the internet, is violating the fundamental Constitutional rights of American citizens. If you consider Wall Street; every strategy discussed, every potential business transaction written in an email has now been read by our government and the information could be released with great harm resulting to the involved parties. An order given by any institution on the phone or in an Bloomberg IB could be shared with people that could use the information for their own benefit. The potential impact on the financial industry has quite grave consequences!
As Americans we should say, “You have overstepped your boundaries Sir.” Citizens should stand and state, “No one has given you the authority to spy upon me and my fellow Americans and that you are violating the Constitution in this exercise and it should cease immediately.” It should be said to a Democrat. It should be said to a Republican. We should say this to any man that has undertaken to pervert the rights that we have ascribed to ourselves in the formation of our government.
This is where we should stand and we should make our voices heard to the best of our abilities.
“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
-Thomas Jefferson
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From the comedy film, The Dictator:
What if America was a Dictatorship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUSiCEx3e-0
Don't think for a minute this capability is not being used for commercial espionage and insider trading.
The right to spy on its citizens farmed-out to private companies for profit.
Government/Corporate alignment...what is that word that keeps cropping up angain and again since 9/11....oh yeah, FASCISM.
I'm telling ya, Obama wants to be King of the world. Weed out the opposition and what do you have left?
Wake up, then grow up, human beings.
The fact is, "government" does not exist.
You know the entire species of sheeple-chimps is insane when virtually every single one of them believes "government" exists... and then proceeds to take that fiction seriously.
Think about it. However many of them were involved, some 20, 50, 100, 200 human beings sat around some tables and wrote documents like "Declaration of Independence" and "Constitution" and whatever else.
The fact is, when those however-many dudes signed those pieces of paper, nothing popped into existence. In fact, nothing changed, except in the brains of those braindamaged creatures. And equally so, hundreds and thousands and millions of other groups of beings signed other pieces of paper, and nothing popped into existence then either.
I mean, can anyone look at reality and recognize what they see any more? Any of you? Raise your hands, if there are any.
I mean seriously! When 20 folks sign documents 230-some years ago, what happens? Answer: Ink on paper. That's all that happens. Ink on paper.
I mean, does anyone really believe that when 20 chimps apply ink to paper, somehow millions of people suddenly become parties to the ideas and dictates written on those documents? I mean, give me a break! Nobody with the slightest shred of sanity and honesty would claim anything remotely like this. I mean, on the surface it is absolutely, completely, utterly insane. I mean, think about it. Perhaps hundreds of little groups of self-important beings sign their names on documents. They can all claim authority all they want. They are all just ink on paper, and nothing else.
It doesn't even matter that one of these groups of folks wrote a really cool document with some really insightful observations. Manually applying ink to their pieces of paper creates nothing... nothing pops into existence, whether you call it "government" or "country" or any other name.
And make no mistake, the fact that some people take their pieces of paper seriously changes nothing. The fact that thousands or millions of humans believe "government exists" changes nothing. The fact that hundreds of millions or billions of humans believe "SantaClaus exists" changes nothing too. Both are fictions. Both are simply "mental units", meaning "configurations in the brain" of some humans. Because a huge number of humans believe "SantaClaus exists" does not make SantaClaus exist. Because a huge number of humans believe "government exists" does not make government exist. A fiction is a fiction, no matter how many human beings are insane and pretend the fiction is not fiction.
For bleeping sakes, the most fundamental law at the base of law for hundreds of years and still there today explicitly recognize this. All "organizations" are "fictitious entities", which is true, except for the unfortunate and inherent absurdity of calling any fiction an entity. But at least they understood and admitted their slight of words. They understood that "creating a corporation" and "creating a government" and "creating any organization" was not creating a damn real thing. It only created a fiction in the minds of those who chose to hold it.
I mean really. If anyone can seriously claim that because a few dozen yokels signed their names on a piece of paper 235-ish years ago, that we are all now slaves of that document, and subject to whatever actions some group of predators claims they are authorized by those documents... they are so completely brain-damaged as to be intellectual refuse.
Yet everyone who discusses virtually every issue on ZH spins endless supposedly rational thought processes that presume blatant fictions are real. But just as pretending SantaClaus exists doesn't make SantaClaus real, or make SantaClaus pop into existence, pretending that "governments" and "corporations" and "organizations" and "countries" and "presidents" and "endless official positions" pop into existence.
All that exists is the universe.
In that universe are many galaxies, each containing many stars, most having planets, asteroids and comets orbiting around them. One of those planets is earth, and on earth are many land masses (continents and islands) and bodies of water (oceans, lakes, rivers). And on and in those land masses and bodies of water are many organisms, single-cell and multi-cell, plant and animal.
That is all.
Meanwhile, almost every single individual instance of one species of creatures on that planet are utterly, completely, and most fundamentally insane. They have been bred by predators to be utterly, totally and completely incapable of distinguishing real from fiction. They spend their entire lives making decisions and taking actions on the assumption that thousands of utterly bogus fictions... are not fictions, but instead refer to real existents.
The inability to distinguish real from fiction is the single most fundamental form of insanity. An inability to distinguish real from fiction renders all other forms of sanity impossible and/or irrelevant. Yet this is precisely the state of mankind today.
I'm not sure even 10 human beings on this planet have figured out what I am saying. Often I tend to believe the predators-that-be understand this fully well, since they create endless fictions and force-feed them to the teeming masses of braindamaged sheeple-chimps. But I'm not sure even the predators understand this clearly, or they're just following standard practices developed by predators over millennia.
What is clear is... all public conversations I encounter presume endless fictions, and thereby render themselves incoherent, irrational and fundamentally insane. No wonder nobody can untangle the mess and find solutions; virtually all brains are busy trying to untangle endless inherently incoherent fictions that cannot be untangled. Humans are plenty smart enough in principle, but simply cannot untangle endless incoherent baseless fictions that cannot be untangled. The ideas and concepts being mentally manipulating are utterly bogus, utterly artificial, utterly unreal, and diabolically crafted to confuse and prevent prey from taking action against the very real predators who enslave and destroy them.
The reality is not very complex. What exists is the universe, galaxies, stars, planets, organisms, and endless wavefronts of electromagnetic radiation filling every seeming void in what people call "outer space".
Or in the context of most conversations here on ZH, no matter what the topic, what exists is human predators and human prey.
predators DBA government
predators DBA corporations
predators DBA central-banks
The predators prey upon their prey all day, every day.
So, except when we're "doing physics or astronomy", all that exists is predators and prey. Or as I prefer to say to slightly improve clarity, "predators, parasites and producers".
Simple as that.
There are no governments to take into consideration. There are no corporations to take into consideration. The concept of "authority" is utterly bogus and artificial. It takes very little clear thinking to realize the inherent and necessary fact that every single human being is in the exact same position of authority as every other human being... namely none. It is inherently impossible for any human being to have authority over any other. Take any two human beings for example (you choose). They both came to exist by being born. The mere identity and symmetry of their existence and relationship are sufficient to make clear that neither can possibly have any legitimate basis in reality to have authority over the other. They can both claim authority, but this is just as clearly absurd as the entire notion of authority in the first place.
The entirety of what honest human beings call ethics is nothing more than causality applied to human action. Ethics only became necessary when some human beings learned they could choose to be producers or predators. Before humans learned to produce (take actions that create goods that would not otherwise exist), they knew no way to survive except to be predators --- to simply grab and consume/destroy what they need to survive, whether that be animals they caught and ate, or apples/berries they stripped from a tree/bush. When some humans learned they could create vast quantities of goods with much less effort and risk by means of productive actions (gathering, planting and tending seeds, and/or gathering, protecting, feeding livestock), they learned an alternative way to survive --- be producers.
Though never stated very accurately throughout history, the point of "ethics" was to identify the relationship of causality and human action, and specifically, productive versus destructive/predatory human action (and especially actions that had consquences upon other humans).
The idea of ethics was, every human who takes an action should enjoy/bare/suffer 100% of the consequences of his own actions, and enjoy/bare/suffer ZERO consequences of actions taken by other humans. Simple as that... though philosophy hasn't managed to state this quite as simply, precisely and fundamentally even after thousands of years of trying.
What virtually nobody sees is, this is the single most fundamental story of mankind... the story of "producer" versus "predator". Or today, given the perversions known as "voting" and "democracy", we might say "producers", "parasites", "predators".
The only rational way to perform analysis on the endless topics today is to formulate them in terms of what actually exists, namely "producers, parasites and predators". Increasingly, "producers" might as well be called "prey".
When some cop and judge steal your money because you don't have a piece of plastic stuck to a rectangular plate on the back of your car proving you allowed the predators to steal you blind, this is nothing more than two predators (plus a supporting cast of predators) fleecing you.
When your "employer" (some real, physical human being) steals 30% of your revenue and gives it to others, there again this is nothing more than a pack of predators fleecing you.
Pretty much every single topic discussed in ZH is simply an instance of predators fleecing producers (and/or parasites), paying a tiny portion to parasites for fictional "votes" that help keep the predators in power by confusing producers, and producers creating everything that predators, parasites and producers need and want to survive and enjoy life.
Yet nearly 100% of articles and comments adopt the endless fictions crafted and promoted by the predators, and suggest endless unworkable ideas, or just admit we're all doomed because it is hopeless. And essentially nobody ever says what needs to be said in every single case. Which is, of course, to identify producers as producers, parasites as parasites, predators as predators. And then treat producers as friends and collaborators, treat parasites as parasites, and treat predators as predators (bullets often required). Understand clearly that predators have no ethics, they only have a modus-operandi, and that modus-operandi is to "get away with whatever they think they can". When a predator breaks into your home or comes after you anywhere, the appropriate, practical, ethical action is to kill (or cage) the predator, no matter what species that predator may be. Without a doubt, since predators and parasites have been allowed to multiply into the billions, the danger involved in taking appropriate action is astronomically higher than it should be. This is, indeed, a practical difficulty today.
This is not a 12 step program. This is a simple 2 step program.
#1: get real (understand what is real, and what is happening).
#2: take appropriate actions.
We are all, in fact, just creatures on a planet populated by quadrillions of other organisms. That's all there is. The rest is pure sheeple-chimp delusion.
Ahhh... how utterly refreshing. Society, money, law, status, names, occupations are all shadows of the mind. Thankyou for articulating so well that which I have tried to explain to myself and to others.
Student: What is truth?
Zen Master: Truth is truth.
Organized team-hunters (be they wolves, whales, or humans) are rarely defeated by a lone prey animal in a direct confrontation. Prey utilize a few strategies to survive - the schooling defense, camouflage, bad taste, speed, agility, etc.
You can interpret the world as any number of levels of abstraction based upon our limited perception and perspective - but make no mistake - you, and every other being, is open to being harvested by something or someone else who sees you as food.
Higher order social organizations are very real - just as the multi-cellular organizations that result in teeth and claws, or the chemical organizations that result in toxins or explosives are real.
The one obvious thing that can stymie a well-organized hunt is a unified defense (ever see Bison form a circle around young to protect from wolves?). This is why TPTB do everything in their power to frustrate the organization of an opposition. But because these predatory entities function as large organizations - they have an extraordinarily difficult time confronting non-centralized opposition. This is their Achilles Heel - fighing a decentralized enemy is costly, inefficient, and decreases the net energy available to fuel the beast - frustrating and starving it.
Just like Ants on an Elephant. . .
Yes, predators usually operate in packs, and that certainly has advantages.
I don't say so in my rant above, but of course I perform abstract thought, and look at reality from many angles. Hell, I've been an inventor most of my life, which is all about creating fictions (ideas, designs, etc), and then converting those fictions into reality (physical products). So I totally love fiction, and abstraction. The only difference is, I understand that effective abstract thought requires I be constantly aware of the "reality status" (and more) of every mental unit I manipulate.
Yes, decentralization is one important technique. The limit of decentralization is, of course, individual action.
The problem of enslavement by predators is actually trivial to solve... except for the practical fact that producers don't get it (meaning, they don't understand my original post). The predators are outnumbered. Furthermore, if everyone understand that every single individual who works for any level of government is a predator, the solution would be insanely trivial. Everyone just waits until they spot any government worker alone, and eliminate them. Given that most government workers wear uniforms (or at least badges), their identification is inherently easy - essentially they all wear bullseyes. And this outcome would probably happen if producers clearly understood my message in no uncertain terms. The problem is, they're completely confused by the endless fictions that I point out, plus thousands more.
Of course another way to eliminate the predators is for all workers to stock up on survival goods for a year or two, then stop producing. Most of the predators and parasites would be dead within a few months, and probably all of them in one or two years.
What you call "higher order social organizations" are pure fiction. The proof is simple. Take any one of them, and the consequences of that fiction are 100% exactly identical to the sum of the actions of the individuals involved. There is no extra "higher order social organization", only the individual humans and their actions. Creating an abstraction does not create a reality. An abstraction can be a way to mentally grasp a number of existents, but the abstraction is a mental unit in your head, not an external referent.
To put that simply, consider the very simple abstraction "dog". All the real, physical animals we call "dogs" exist in reality, but that "dog" mental unit has zero external (non-mental) reality --- it is merely a mental tool for you to more effectively grasp reality in certain ways. Plato was totally full of crap, but he sure ain't the only one!
Emergent properties are, by definition, hard, if not impossible, to pin down. An ant or bee colony, for instance, are wonderful examples of higher order structures that seem to be more than the sum of their parts - even if thermodynamics is not violated. Likewise, whether consciousness is a purely derivative phenomena, or a truly superveinient property that can direct the physical component parts of mind (a mechanism for a true, top-down "free will")- is an equally intractable problem - but one that we seem to have the ability to weigh in on in a meaningful manner subjectively.
Forget about Plato for a minute, and consider Descartes before you condemn higher order organizations as pure fictions. Reductionism fails to explain his observation. In the same way the path out of Hume's dilemma surrounding the question of causation was through Kant's pragmatism, I think we have to realize that discounting practical fictions that enhance survivability might be a fool's errand.
Thanks for the thoughtful posts.
Well, "consciousness" is simply a certain set of processes, which, of course, can only be performed by physical objects with certain characteristics (characteristics that perform those processes). This we know, because this we've done (create smarter-than-human inorganic consciousness). Well, smarter in every way except speed, so far.
So-called "free-will" or "volition" is a bit more difficult to discuss, because the exact meaning of either term is ambiguous. What is true, is that human-level consciousness is able to perform certain kinds of "choices" that simpler structures cannot. I don't have time to get into detail, but I'll perhaps tickle a few thoughts in you by saying the term we prefer over "volition" or "free will" is "self determinism".
Many advocates of various forms of "determinism" claim that the external physical world determines how people think, and what choices humans make. Given that human beings and human brains (and inorganic "brains") are also physical implementations, it is odd that these folks didn't ask themselves whether the "internal" (the being itself) can also determine its choices and behaviors too [in some relevant or significant ways]. If they had, they might have gained a more balanced perspective.
We tend not to ask ourselves questions like others do. We simply observe that humans (and inorganic consciousness) can make various kinds and types of choices that other animals (and simpler inorganic machines) cannot make. As it turns out, a description of these kinds and types of choices (at least one or more of them) is pretty damned impressive and very interesting. Without going into detail, because that would take a huge conversation, consider whether human consciousness can function as a "causal singularity" between the entire universe and the entire past... and unlimited portions and aspects of the universe into the indefinite future. The essential answer is "yes", and that is a very impressive capacity, whether you want to call that "volition" or not.
I think you will be hard pressed to describe emergent properties of dispersed systems. Yes, change the configuration of a physically bonded system and you might get new "emergent" properties. But things like "government" are simply a bunch of people, and there are no new "emergent" properties involved. The people who claim to be part of government have no new "emergent" properties that people not part of government lack. Even if you create a swarm system like a bunch of communicating drones, you'll be hard pressed to describe any property that swarm has that a bunch of individuals drones do not.
One must be a bit careful, and not get tripped up by linguistics. Sadly, that's even difficult now and then for those of us who have our heads on straight, and understand consciousness thoroughly. Here is one goofy example. You land one human on Mars. Later you land another human on Mars. Only then can they practice "trade" or "division of labor". It takes a tad of careful thought to clearly work out questions like this precisely, even when you rather clearly understand how to think about these kinds of issues.
derp, sorry.
Government IS a reality, and it IS combined force built on taxation.
It is not a fiction and it takes but ONE generation to tolerate what was on paper to make it an unbreakable culture for many generations more.
Take the time to think what I said through. Obviously you didn't, but you should. Otherwise, you will remain insane until you die.
All that is required is a tiny bit of common sense, or lacking that, a tad of careful observation and analysis. Look at it this way.
Before [what you consider] the US government was created, did the US government exist? I assume your answer will be "no". At the moment those dudes spred ink on paper and supposedly "created" the US government, did anything pop into existence? The obvious answer is "no". And therefore, afterwards there was no US government, because nothing new was created... except a mental unit in the brains of those who signed.
But a mental unit in your head is not the US government, no more than the "SantaClaus" mental unit in human beings is SantaClaus. Those mental units are fictions, meaning they do not refer to anything in the external world.
Make no mistake, the building you call "the washington monument" does exist. And so do hundreds of other buildings you consider "government buildings". But in fact, they are simply buildings, and the "US government" you imagine exists simply does not exist. I demonstrated that above. It did not exist, it was not created when you imagine it was created, and so it still does not exist today. This is simple... trivial really. You just have to be willing to think about it carefully. That's all.
And if you're planning to say something like, "Well, because people believe it exists, and take actions based upon that belief, that makes it exist". That is exactly as absurd as claiming SantaClaus exists because billions of humans go xmas shopping, wrap goodies up in wrapping paper, put them under decorated pine trees, then get up extra early on December 25th and open them. None of that makes SantaClaus exist, and if you want to grow up beyond the level of an infantile intellect, you need to take time to honestly consider these points. If you're not willing, at least you have the comfort of knowing that 99.9999999% of your fellow man are just as insane as you are.
I'm stating things as they are not as I wish them to be. You're doing the opposite. What I do is the definition of NOT insane.
I descibed exactly what is going on. You describe nothing. You seem to be confused by the fact that humans take actions based upon fictional mental units, and the fact that these actions do not make the fiction real. Enjoy your evasion of reality.
what you call "fiction" manifests itself as the full physical reality of guns, manned border posts, allocated physical capital as well as debt-capital and social dependency so rooted into culture that to remove it would collapse society if it were to go away overnight.
That's not fiction.
That's reality.
You're in total denial.
Apparently you are 100% incapable of reading or comprehending. Seriously.
I repeatedly, explicitly gave and emphasized the example of SantaClaus to show that yes, human beings take actions on the basis that fictions are real, and those people who take actions are real, and the actions they take are real.
But that does not make SantaClaus real.
And this is why my message is important.
Still don't get it? If someone has a fancy hologram generator, and projects 3D images of thugs coming after you in a crowd, is it important for you to know whether those 3D images are real thugs versus real, physical thugs?
I mean, duh!!!
If you know they are real, you can take no dangerous actions. If you do not know those 3D images are just projected illusions, you may start spraying bullets into the crowd. Even if you are a fantastic shot and never miss the 3D images, your bullets will pass through the fictional thugs and strike real, physical people.
In the case of so-called "government", human beings are almost 100% disabled because they do not clearly recognize that so-called "government" is fiction, and that the state of reality is simply "predators DBA government", with "government" being nothing more than a sith mind trick to fool the sheeple-chimps into submission.
If you know for certain that a wild animal (predator) is attacking you, what will you do if you have a weapon? You will not hesitate --- you will shoot that predator to protect yourself. And you will do more than that, you will develop ways to make your life safer, likely by forming hunting parties to eliminate the predators in your area.
If 100% of human beings clearly understood that every human being who claims to be a "government official" is exactly, precisely and only a predator intent upon enslaving you, destroying your property, and making your life difficult or impossible --- what will humans do?
The answer is quite clear. The predators will be eliminated in short order.
This is why it is important to understand what is fiction, and what is real.
The predators are real, their actions are real, the pain, agony and destruction they cause is real.
And the only way this can be stopped is for human beings to accurately distinguish real from fiction, because that is the only obstacle stopping human beings from being happy, healthy, successful and free.
PS: The elimination of predators DBA government would very quickly lead to a comparative paradise. To even imagine in your wildest dreams that removing destruction and enslavement would harm human beings is a perfect example of how completely wacko the confusion of real and fiction can make a sentient being.
The bottom line is, you cannot read, or you cannot comprehend.
Yes, the humans who call themselves "government officials" are real.
Yes, the guns, tanks, bombs, figher-jets, tasers and bully-clubs are real.
Yes, the predators who man physical buildings at fictional border crossings are real.
Yes, the pieces of paper that humans call "money" are real, but its value is pure fiction.
But the government is pure fiction, all official titles are fiction, and authority is pure fiction.
If the guns, tanks, bombs and other real, physical, destructive items were not real, I would not worry about any of this, because then those items could not harm me - they would be no more harmful than a fictional weapon in a novel or on a movie screen. The fact that those human predators are real, and their implements of destruction and enslavement are real, is the reason they are dangerous, is the reason this issue is crucial to comprehend.
Your refusal to get honest and get real make you one dangerous dude. You and 99.99999% of the real, physical, insane human beings on this planet.
I am not in denial. I am 100% realist. I was quite open and explicit about what is real and what is fiction from my very first post. I hid nothing, I obscured nothing, I explained openly and clearly. It is you who is in total denial, and any honest reading of this thead, by you or others, will make this clear. The only question is, do you intend to lie to yourself and deceive yourself for the rest of your life?
Until you can show the physical assets held by Santa Claus and the forced effect on us BY Santa Claus against our will, you have actually proved my point and disproved yours.
Your reading comprehension is in the deep negative numbers.
You are a complete imbicile. The "government" has never harmed anyone. Those real, physical human beings who claim to work for the fiction called government harm, destroy and enslave human beings.
And that is my point... again. The imbiciles (prey) who lie down and let the predators rape and enslave them because they believe "government" is real... yes, the prey are real. And yes, the predators (cops, judges, etc) who rape and enslave are real, whether they believe government exists or not.
You tell me one tiny effect government has had. The precise answer is exactly zero.
But the very real predators who pretend to have fictional authority granted by fictional government cause plenty of harm.
The above is obvious to anyone not completely braindamanged.
You are a complete imbecile in denial of reality.
THE GOVERNMENT Is THE PHYSICAL BODIES OF THE people.
The government IS NEVER the idea.
It is the WILL, the arms, the legs, the guns, the confiscation.
THE GOVERNMENT is the ACT AND THE BODY.
When Stalin raided the food out of Ukraine that was THE GOVERNMENT, THE ACT AND THE BODY, the reality.
Your fiction is double-talk self-imposed blindness composed entirely of lies.
If you are representative of most Americans you are all completely fucked because your honestly is in the deep negatives even to YOURSELF.
AUTHORITY has no place in this discussion.
Government is about the MECHANISM. The "authority" can't even be questioned or exist at all, that has zero purpose.
Only the MECHANISM, how many show up, how many guns they have, what they take, what they make citizenss do, that's what matters. THAT is government.
You are dismissed.
Government is not BELIEVED in. Government is the living body of every person FORMING THE ACT of ruling over others with their every movement, shots fired and consolidation of physical resources like ammunition & fuel to do more of the same.
If you think "government" is physical, you really are beyond hope.
A leg is a leg.
A gun is a gun.
An arm is an arm.
And will is a real process in the brain of real physical beings.
And so forth.
There's no point in renaming things that already have names.
Look at it this way. The legs of every government employee are legs... the same legs those freaks had before they started taking orders and paychecks from predators-DBA-government. Nothing new popped into existence when those humans started taking actions for predators-DBA-government.
The same is true of arms, guns, bullets, cars and every other real, physical object. Which AGAIN clearly demonstrates that those real, physical objects are just what they are, namely legs, arms, cars, guns, bullets, etc.
You, like virtually every other human being on this planet, lives almost entirely in fantasy land.
And I repeat again, if "SantaClaus" is the "mechanism"... somehow the aggregate of xmas-trees, wrapping-paper, stores that sell gifts, and kids who wake up at dawn and raid the xmas tree... then you must believe that SantaClaus is therefore real. You must, by your own logic. Which again conclusively proves you are terminally clueless.
And BTW, I'm not an american.
epic rant ann (that 1st post)
just thinkin today what a damn waste it is that so many cool intelligent minds on the hedge/in the world are so collectively focused on making it a little less worse vs. making it any better...which is probably the point of the fiction.
it's all smoke & mirrors, until it isn't.
I totally agree. Human beings are capable of amazing, fantastic, wonderful things. But instead they are actively destroying anything and everything good, productive and benevolent.
Sadly, I disagee with the common view that when everything collapses, the predators will lose control. Not this time. Life will suck, but the predators will survive and dominate even more thoroughly. Why?
Because most humans today are utterly and completely clueless, as endless examples demonstrate conclusively. And the predators control all the technology, which makes them vastly more capable.
I'm pretty sure from a distance your ignorance will do me no harm.
The primary reason for me to have a gut reaction of "kill it with fire" to such ignorance is from in-person experiences that could endanger me.
However there are still certain key levels of dumbfuckery that just can't be given a pass. The short list:
gold is a bubble
government is a myth
we can print our way to prosperity
fascism is capitalism
quotes from revelations
any serious claim that god(s) are real
global warming is a hoax
fascism is socialism
gold has no yield so it's a bad investment
communism is socialism
except those mechanisms of Christmas are not SANTA CLAUS.
I choose & use words carefully.
Christmas is a real physical thing filled with tangibles & joined to economic cycles today.
The story of HOW christmas came to exist is much muddier with the least doubtable part being the origin-story of the birth of Jesus and even then it's not hard to doubt the "hard" details other than "I guess that kid was born that day".
Your reading comprehension remains in the negatives. And of all things, you think you're the smart one. That's a real shame.
Government is a collection of behaviors, like a mind.
I know I have a brain, but I don't think I have a mind. Just a brain that creates behaviors that are called a mind.
honestann,
I come from an area where still people kill each other over the interpretations of the bible. Not even different religions.
Yes it's all in their heads but that doesn't mean it isn't dangerous for you.
Exactly! That was a major part of my point.
That's why humans need to understand this issue.
hmmm..i had believed that government was about the administration of law and policy in a predictable way..i don't think it matters whether you treat government as a physical entity (buildings and employees with equipment) or something that governs physical actions of individuals (in the way that, say, religious beliefs "forbid" murder, theft and adultery).
what physically affects individuals is the degree of the consequences from behaviors that breach government rules..live (France) or die (Texas) from a crime of passion, for example..that seems to be a physical consequence of a theological debate to me.
the individuals can change the way that they are governed/controlled to allow or disallow part of all of actions of themselves and others.
we are in the midst of an evolution of government to the "age of surveillance" as a result of an internet revolution. neither of these are physical to an individual unless the individual chooses to buy the necessary gizmos that make surveillance physically possible.
still philosophy never has been physical ..rather an agreement or otherwise abotu ideas..best ideas govern our behavior, else we don't enjoy as high a quality of life as we could.
That is only concerning for those 'americans' who are slowly and surely sliding out of the middle class.
For 'americans', the group is all. In this regard, you must not care of what the group knows.
'Americans' knew the founding fathers were slave owners. The ff did not have to care.
In an 'american' society, a known piece of information is dealt with through the prism of the group.
When you belong to the group, you must fear nothing.
It must be remembered for example that the US military exchanged publically their pics of torture. As long as it remained within the group, it was okay. Then it slipped out of the group. Of course, all along, the US government knew of the practices.
The concern grows for 'americans' who are going to be tossed out of the group. Suddenly, a piece of information that was innocuous or even a source of fame, might be used against them.
That is why the US public or the 'american' middle class does not move. They know the rules of the game. Information gathered through spying will remain harmless as long as they remain 'american' middle class members.
For Chinese citizenism citizens, the group is all. They imagine easily crap covered roadsides because they want that when they squat down, the whole group squats down with them.
There is no discontinuity between a Chinese citizenism elite and its base. Both display the same behavior, on different scales.
Both use power to squat down and impose their burden of brown baby Maos on as many roadsides as possible, making the statement that it is not about feces but about power.
It is part of the 'AnAnonymystical' excremeditationary urge to take shelter into fantasy to claim that reality is itself fantasy.
Can you spell Chinese citizenism? 'cause wishing for someone else to clean up the mess you've laid along the roadsides is Chinese citizenism citizenish...
I stink, therefore I am.
Signed: A Chinese Shitizenism citizen
Welcome to an AnAnonymystical world. One day, it will be tomorrow, no matter the whatness, you'll see.
while the jerks down-arrow you, I bet Occupy protesters would agree with you very much, quite publicly. The elite would silently agree.
I, too, demand satisfaction! Wait, while I get my seconds! What do we need? A civil war. When do we need it? NOW!!
Governments have a lot of things to hide;-)
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To paraphrase the movie Gladiator:
"There was once a dream that was America. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... it was so fragile. And I fear that it will not survive the winter."
Your average garden vegetable is more aware of tyranny than most sheeple in Amerika. Most simply have no interest because they don't believe anything bad can happen in Amerika. Life goes on until somebody takes it away.
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You got that right: "Do Americans think they face tyranny"
and no, largely, they have out to graze among the sheeples and happy moo cows.
Well, as the ponzi disipates and someone still has to make the vig, the naive, complacent sheep are going to get eaten.
Sad for those I know.
So, you see, a price will be paid and the world will tend back towards karmic balance.
FU NSA alien transvestite dick sucking spawn of satan weasels.
That is all.
The amount of defense, or at least passive disregard for the importance of what the NSA is doing startles and saddens me.
Re read. Misread.
Merkel's acting angry. Maybe we'll be shamed into action?
I meant here.
Lost me at "should be said to a Democrat. It should be said to a Republican".
My advice is drop these labels and this labelling. These are abused terms that have lost all meaning in the present context. The issuses we're facing transcend these useless distinctions.
The sooner we leave the semantics of enslavement behind, the sooner we're on the path to liberty. imo.