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For First Time Majority Finds President Untrustworthy: Obama Approval Plunges Among Young Americans
Whatever the deteriorating economy could not achieve (courtesy of Ben Bernanke's relentless bubble blowing and pumping of the S&P 500-driven "wealth effect" distraction) for the past four years, one NSA whistleblower succeeded in a few short days, when earlier today, CNN - hardly a media known for its criticism of the administration - released a new poll according to which not only did Obama's approval rating drop by 8% in the past month, "one of the sharpest, fastest plunges in his presidency" to 45% from 53% (the first time the majority had a negative opinion of the president), not only did the majority find Obama to not be honest and trustworthy for the first time ever in his presidency, but Obama's support with one of his core constituencies - young Americans under 30 - imploded, plunging by 17 points. CNN adds: "That's particularly discouraging heading into 2014 because Democrats have felt they have a lock on the youth vote after the 2012 elections. "The drop in Obama's support is fueled by a dramatic 17-point decline over the past month among people under 30, who, along with black Americans, had been the most loyal part of the Obama coalition," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said."
Ted Turner's news network adds the following:
The president also dropped 10 points among independent voters, from 47 percent last month to 37 percent. Obama's disapproval among independents jumped 12 points to 61 percent. Again, more bad news for Democrats because those independents are especially important in mid-term elections in which older, more conservative Americans predominate.
The network pointed to several major scandals as evidence for the drop.
"The White House has been under siege over telephone and Internet surveillance, the Internal Revenue Service's targeting of conservative groups, its handling of the terror attack on the U.S. consular post in Benghazi, Libya, and the Justice Department's collecting journalists' phone records as part of the government's investigation into leaks of classified information," CNN reported.
"It is clear that revelations about NSA surveillance programs have damaged Obama's standing with the public, although older controversies like the IRS matter may have begun to take their toll as well," Holland told the network.
The rest of the findings of CNN's poll:
- A slight majority disapproves of the actions of the man who leaked the NSA documents. A majority of respondents also believe Edward Snowden, who fled to Hong Kong, should be brought back to the United States and prosecuted.
- Six in 10 disapprove of how Obama is handling government surveillance of U.S. citizens. That's higher than the 52 percent who disapproved of George W. Bush on the same issue in 2006, when government surveillance was also in the headlines.
- Obama's approval rating on terrorism, although still above 50 percent, has taken a 13-point hit since mid-May.
- The president's approval rating on domestic issues like the economy, immigration and the deficit dropped by 2 to 4 points, within the poll's sampling error.
So how is Obama responding to the criticism? He is doubling down. From Politico:
President Obama defended a pair of controversial National Security Agency surveillance programs on Monday, arguing it’s a "false choice" to suggest people "have to sacrifice our freedom in order to achieve security."
With polls suggesting the controversy over the NSA programs are cutting into the president's approval rating, Obama stood by the surveillance as a tradeoff that citizens must make to remain safe.
"To say there’s a tradeoff doesn’t mean somehow that we’ve abandoned freedom," Obama told Charlie Rose, according to a transcript of the interview obtained by BuzzFeed.
The president went on to defend the NSA spying as "transparent," while defensively acknowledging that many on the left and right had compared his anti-terror policies to those of his predecessor, former President George W. Bush.
"The whole point of my concern, before I was president — because some people say, ‘Well, you know, Obama was this raving liberal before. Now he’s, you know, Dick Cheney.’ Dick Cheney sometimes says, 'Yeah, you know? He took it all lock, stock, and barrel,' ” Obama said.
Sounds about right. As for this upcoming Charlie Rose interview:
Obama leaned heavily during the interview on explanations that had already been given by the administration to justify the programs. He noted the NSA's role in disrupting a planned attack on the New York City subway system.
"The one thing people should understand about all these programs though is they have disrupted plots, not just here in the United States, but overseas as well," Obama said.
The president declined to comment on Edward Snowden, the former defense contractor who admitted to leaking details of the NSA surveillance programs.
Or just the usual, trite(sic) and true(sic) talking points.
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I would suggest an orange jumpsuit.
John McCain mask.
Hope and change are now only coming from Snowden.
I've been saying it for 5 years now... his slogan was really Hoax & Chains. Everyday something else emerges that proves it.
I pass this service station every now and then that has an enormous billboard posted on their retaining wall.It reads:
"30 years ago, we had Ronnie Reagan, Bob Hope, and Johnny Cash. Now we have Obama, no hope, and no cash."
I'm tempted to let them do my next oil change just to say thanks.
Be sure to ask for the free Nobel peace prize with that oil change.
obammy will have his work cut out at G8 with the others breathing down his neck on Prism scamming, and having to play poker with China over Syria and Snowden.
What with Obammy clown in EZ, Barroso, now getting slammed by france in return for his barking on France's media & film veto we may find that Barroso willl have his work cut out to stay top dog in EU.
France has some leeway as Merkel is now in the sprint to September elections so she will keep her mouth shut to reelection.
Hot summer if FED tapers.
God only knows what "compromises" he may be "forced" into due to these unfortunate leaks and trumpted up controversies. Every crisis is another opportunity for these folks. It just goes on and on.
The Newbies are in disbelief...theyve never experienced lying before?
Obama approval rating among blacks in 2008: 99%
Obama approval rating among blacks in 2013: 99%
Percentage of blacks who can give even a rudimentary summary of any of Obama's policies: 2%
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJbOU4nmHQ
Hey, he's one of them, what more do they need to know?
And they can't stand people being judged by their color, either.
"There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ882QYzr-M
You must be kidding 2012 he had 112% of the black vote, cmon!
Time to throw the free shit army another bone ie. handout.
The FSA is still waiting for that 3k Obummer promised them during the elections. You know, so they can go buy their thingamabobs.
GTFO. Young people don't like to be spied on?
#whodathunkit
Don't forget to back out 12% of his approval rating. 99% of blacks voted for him because of the color of hos skin. Don't worry thats not racism. I don't blame the black people of America, I blame the white people of America. Fools.
And Obama's paid them back by imprisoning more young black men than any other president in history. AND the highest unemployment rate among Americans of all races. They're getting what they deserve.
Hey Troll Magnet...I agree 100%. He has done nothing for them(Blacks) and they still blindly support him! NOW THATS RACISM
It's easy, he just tells them they're still suffering the after-effects of Whitey and he's gonna need 6 terms to fix what dem crackers have done since 1787.
And they believe...every...word.
DAT'S RAYCISS.
Nope Obimmeer is not done yet. He'll legalize all the illegals, present and future, to make sure no Black American will ever get an entry level job again.
FORWARD!
What's amazing is that the 16-34 set is a core Obama constituency at all. No age cohort has suffered more in its prospects from exploding debt and a creaky labor market than this one under this president. Remember who's going to be paying for all this profligacy.
Debt load and unemployment bad, but how about facing a future in a fucking totalitarian state. We're I in my 20s I'd be rabid, I'd be homicidal, I'd go postal, I'd get my Snowden on...
Just so you know, I'm mid twenties, and rabid is a great word for me, also belligerent drunk. You know what it gets me? A shitty job(not my employers fault), no women, and living with a bunch of similarly fucked over people, because real issues don't seem to matter, and unless i coo sweet platitudes about the rights of the FSA(entitlements) in the face of all odds i am crazy and stupid.
My best friends growing up were off all races, Indian, Vietnamese, Jewish, Guatemalan, etc, etc, and yet there are retards who still say that anyone who dares go against Obama are racist, no one talks to me anymore from my past, I'm worse than a curse.
I have literally been advised to "submit to the publics will over my life" by family, as if they know better what i want or what's good for me.
I hate this fucking place, but have no where to go.
So I'll keep it up till the end, as i have no option.
If i hear the term patriarchy misused cultishly in serious conversation one more fucking time I'm liable to fucking lose it.
Its not who is to blame, its who gets the blame. Set up the premise that someone is evil, set into motion a tragedy and then to go about pointing fingers. All that matters is having true believers. With that, all things are possible.
Monedas' Mulatto Triumvirate .... Obammy, Holder and Pryor .... all high yeller mulattoes .... drippin' with white DNA .... on their genealogical "blue dresses" .... they're the best of the class .... but that's not saying much .... my white pride is split .... on one hand I'm proud that their white DNA put them over the top .... but, on the other hand .... they aren't much better than Jesse Jackson or Reverend Wright or Diane Waters or other ignoramuses ? Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad InThe Public Interest World Tour
Hope and change, bitches!
More realistically, he will be remembered as the president who took the reins of a country with a failing financial system, an auto sector on the verge of liquidation and two wars and did enough to help put us back on stable footing again despite intense political gridlock.
Are things perfect? No, but by the end of his term unemployment will be below 7% (or close to it), the stock market will likely continue to flirt with record highs, our economy will continue to grow at a 2-3% clip and our projected deficit will be a very manageable 2% of GDP.
If things continue on their current trajectory, history will be relatively kind to Obama once it is all said and done.
Check your premises. He took the reins of a country (dishonestly and while completely unqualified) with a failing financial system caused by the TBTFs that he chose not to prosecute, an auto sector on the verge of liquidation that should have failed, shoved us into at least three more wars that we can't afford, and did more than enough to ensure that the US will never be able to pay its debt unless we go to hyperinflation or bankruptcy.
The unemployment numbers are all bullshit, revised upward and downward as the week's narrative dictates. The stock market is rigged and run by the same fuckers who caused the financial meltdown in the first place. Our projected deficit should be making you shit your pants if you are capable of basic math.
History will be kind to Obombya only if he remains dictator in chief for life. The winners write the history, after all.
He got lost on his way to the Media Matters site. I've heard everything he just said for 5 years now from this guy named...you may know him....Generic Liberal.
Oh, he's lost, all right.
His screenname should be Genetic Discard.
Stalin stabilized a divided Russia, after Lenin's failed New Economy Plan, and of course Hitler got Germanyout of the Depression.
Did I mention Mao's Cultural Revolution? That was a kneeslapper!
Realistically? Are you kidding me??? He hijacked the HC industry and has ruined it, he has spent almost $10 trillion, and what do we have to show for it? high unemployment and an unpayable debt, moar wars and a divided nation. Gimme a break and take off the rose colored glasses before you hurt yourself. Damn unicorns, what are ya gonna do with 'em, ugh...
Cousin Dick and Cousin Barak - Two sides of the same coin.
I wish WhoSayin and HotShot Cheney would spend a long weeked trap shooting and imbibing at Camp David.
"What do you get .... if you cross a black stallion .... with a white ass .... a mule-atto !" Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Post Racial Humour World Tour
I do love a man rife with hypocrisy, and when Obama dies I will welcome him with open arms to my fiery domain.
Imposter
Even the rappers are turning on Obama and establishment as of late.........
Couldn't have happened to a nicer piece of corporate scrotal whale shit. Way to hit it out of the park Mr. Barry Soetoro!
Gee, why not trust him? He's like everyone in Washington, a pathological liar.
Keep voting.
Keep "the dream" alive...hahahahahaha
i see a lot of fuck Obama posts and to that i say, if the republicans could have won the white house it would be blue skies, unicorns, rainbows with pots of gold for everyone, we would be living in a utopia of good will with no wars and even the gangs of chicago would have put down their guns and embraced each other as brothers.....if only the republicans had won.........
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
I hate Obama for the same reasons I hated Bush. All of them have to do with big fucking government run amok.
Shut the fuck up and go back to your Hobbit Hole, you little Cass Sunstein dissident cognitive infiltrator shitbag. Your propaganda don't work here, boyyyy...
I think he forgot the "/sarc" tag.
I see a lot of people who see a flawed system and vanilla or chocolate choices to the same ice cream cone.....few here believe that Repugs or Dumbocrats would change us from careening to the abyss.
look the country's out of control no matter obama or the republicans running the show - more wars more insanity
there are no solutions outside of secession and start over
That dog don't hunt no more.
Wrong list. This list by and large understand it's just different factions or variations of the Gevevieves against the Gambinos different, but both will take your knee caps.
Gee it only took them 4 years and a half to figure it out... and even then, not all people agree that he's a crook.
/4 years compared to most ZH people figuring it out EVEN before he was elected or even nominated as the D candidate.
Psychologically controlled people, through use of false incentive structures and ideological programming from cradle to grave rarely are able to disengage themselves without significant hardship.
Generally they "go insane" and are "medicated appropriately".
Obama is America personified, really. A liar and opportunist who doesn't a give a shit about anything.
By the way don't blame blacks for Obama, even though they can be blamed for other things. Remember Obama is only half black, and there are plenty of whites, jews, mexicans, and asians out there who support him.
My rainbow dream .... is when .... we can all call each other "Nigger" or "Cracker" .... can't we all just get along ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Fair And Balanced Humour World Tour
***we can all call each other "Nigger" or "Cracker"***
Sure, as long as you don't call anyone a "kike".
Yes fuck him, and fuck the next two candidates from these two corrupt POS parties. And fuck anyone who thought Romney would have been any better.
If this pace of decline keeps up the next elections might not arrive on schedule..
Sorry, posted this before, but it gets weirder to me as time goes on:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0325537/
Seriously..
Arrest him. Put him in cuffs. Don't let him get away.
We are approaching the end of the statist society. The 80 year movement from socialism to communism is almost complete.
When everything is guaranteed,, that is communism.
***that is communism.***
That's right. When the billionaire oligarchs are are running every thing with absolute power - that's communism. MORON!!
A Million Man Public Servant Oligarchs March Monedian Math: 1,000,000 PSOs X $ 250.000 (average annual salary and benefits package) = $ 250,000,000,000
I get it .... Obammy is healing .... the racial divide .... by being just as big an asshole .... as your ordinary POS .... white, socialist, Democrat scum bag .... like little Jimmy Carter ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Oh The Egalite' World Tour
He's trapped in a job he was not prepared for. Hid behind the title and power but now the facade is cracking. Will get worse from here. Hopefully the damage done in government can start to heal without him. Of all things, honesty and trust are key.
Damaged governments do not "heal".
They are comprised of people and it takes proactiveness and a collective change of mindset on the part of an electorate who want to see things turned around.
Unfortunately, those who are willing to stand up and lead such a change are hamstrung from the start because the system is now stacked against them.
Just getting on the ballot is almost impossible in many States unless there is a "D" next to your name.
Getting any form of objective coverage from the media who disseminates information to the voters is now a joke.
Raising money is out because contributors have been, and will be, targeted.
Even the people willing to work on someone's campaign have to think twice because of the ramifications of such a move.
Even making a phone call now can get you on a list.
As soon good men and women stick their heads up to even speak of change, their souls and reputations are raped by the IRS, DOJ and multiple other organizations hell bent on destroying opposition.
Most people these days think protests are carried out via email, Twitter and emotional Facebook posts (which the politicians laugh about).
This gig is over.
The system is far too gamed.
Monedian Logic: PREDATORY PUBLIC SERVANT SECTOR COMPLEX > militaryindustrialcomplex
Its FSA or bust for the next two years.
Organize and learn/teach surreptitiously.
Attempt to deprogram the binary without causing harm to your community.
Galvanizing the voter-base to sweep in a populist candidate next election, and begin the cycle again. And they fall for it every damn time!
I would put money on market down female actor on that play, literal repeat of Obama, but this time let's try out someone with a vagina. Because there has never been a woman in history who was ever evil or violent.
Plays perfectly into the current captured hand, any opposition is a misogynist, even though they are speaking in opposition to the mass bombing of women and children in a holy shrine at a sacred life event.
genitalia doesn't matter, hormones present in all bodies on a sliding scale - know this:
it's the system that defines the participants, no individual can be put in top positions without resigning their autonomy for power. . . Thatcher is a good example for your "evil / violent" woman leader. . . the only reason there aren't more is because the system has centuries of male dominance supported by religious dogma.
it's crumbling before your very eyes - there are plenty of things to get involved with that would serve you better than raging on ZH - you say you're young, find some similar thinkers & get busy!
there have always been alternatives / counter cultures - you don't read much about them because the media is captured, and "history" is disappearing down the memory hole - get creative, nothing fires up the imagination like resistance!
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Abraham Lincoln
People are slowly wising up to this phony.
You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.
W
"You can fool most of the people .... most of the time .... and that's why socialism thrives .... when it's never worked !" ..... Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Lincolnesque Quotes World Tour
Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.
Barry Pakalolo on the down low.
Is this an appropriate time for a Fuck Bernanke post?
It's always an appropriate time for a Fuck Bernanke post.
I guess a war better be started to divert attention from this. Bullish on GDP and great for the kiddies.
suckers!
but don't despair young people - they will have a new con-artist ready for you to fall for in 2016
It'll be Hitlary for the Dems in 2016.
Hardly a new con artist.
I dont know one person who ever belived anything he said or trusted him.
OPERATION ZION KINGDOM is fully operational.
Please submit all your under 30 somethings for immediate duty.
This is not a test.
a little too late for that now
Lying to people right to their face can tend to have that affect on your approval ratings.
Dear Gringos!
I envy your freeedoms very mucho, but very tranquilo, pls don't drone me.
Gracias
This post on Reddit was in response to someone who said he didn't mind the privacy invasion:
I live in a country generally assumed to be a dictatorship. One of the Arab spring countries. I have lived through curfews and have seen the outcomes of the sort of surveillance now being revealed in the US. People here talking about curfews aren't realizing what that actually FEELS like. It isn't about having to go inside, and the practicality of that. It's about creating the feeling that everyone, everything is watching. A few points:
1) the purpose of this surveillance from the governments point of view is to control enemies of the state. Not terrorists. People who are coalescing around ideas that would destabilize the status quo. These could be religious ideas. These could be groups like anon who are too good with tech for the governments liking. It makes it very easy to know who these people are. It also makes it very simple to control these people.
Lets say you are a college student and you get in with some people who want to stop farming practices that hurt animals. So you make a plan and go to protest these practices. You get there, and wow, the protest is huge. You never expected this, you were just goofing off. Well now everyone who was there is suspect. Even though you technically had the right to protest, you're now considered a dangerous person.
With this tech in place, the government doesn't have to put you in jail. They can do something more sinister. They can just email you a sexy picture you took with a girlfriend. Or they can email you a note saying that they can prove your dad is cheating on his taxes. Or they can threaten to get your dad fired. All you have to do, the email says, is help them catch your friends in the group. You have to report back every week, or you dad might lose his job. So you do. You turn in your friends and even though they try to keep meetings off grid, you're reporting on them to protect your dad.
2) Let's say number one goes on. The country is a weird place now. Really weird. Pretty soon, a movement springs up like occupy, except its bigger this time. People are really serious, and they are saying they want a government without this power. I guess people are realizing that it is a serious deal. You see on the news that tear gas was fired. Your friend calls you, frantic. They're shooting people. Oh my god. you never signed up for this. You say, fuck it. My dad might lose his job but I won't be responsible for anyone dying. That's going too far. You refuse to report anymore. You just stop going to meetings. You stay at home, and try not to watch the news. Three days later, police come to your door and arrest you. They confiscate your computer and phones, and they beat you up a bit. No one can help you so they all just sit quietly. They know if they say anything they're next. This happened in the country I live in. It is not a joke.
3) Its hard to say how long you were in there. What you saw was horrible. Most of the time, you only heard screams. People begging to be killed. Noises you've never heard before. You, you were lucky. You got kicked every day when they threw your moldy food at you, but no one shocked you. No one used sexual violence on you, at least that you remember. There were some times they gave you pills, and you can't say for sure what happened then. To be honest, sometimes the pills were the best part of your day, because at least then you didn't feel anything. You have scars on you from the way you were treated. You learn in prison that torture is now common. But everyone who uploads videos or pictures of this torture is labeled a leaker. Its considered a threat to national security. Pretty soon, a cut you got on your leg is looking really bad. You think it's infected. There were no doctors in prison, and it was so overcrowded, who knows what got in the cut. You go to the doctor, but he refuses to see you. He knows if he does the government can see the records that he treated you. Even you calling his office prompts a visit from the local police.
You decide to go home and see your parents. Maybe they can help. This leg is getting really bad. You get to their house. They aren't home. You can't reach them no matter how hard you try. A neighbor pulls you aside, and he quickly tells you they were arrested three weeks ago and haven't been seen since. You vaguely remember mentioning to them on the phone you were going to that protest. Even your little brother isn't there.
4) Is this even really happening? You look at the news. Sports scores. Celebrity news. It's like nothing is wrong. What the hell is going on? A stranger smirks at you reading the paper. You lose it. You shout at him "fuck you dude what are you laughing at can't you see I've got a fucking wound on my leg?"
"Sorry," he says. "I just didn't know anyone read the news anymore." There haven't been any real journalists for months. They're all in jail.
Everyone walking around is scared. They can't talk to anyone else because they don't know who is reporting for the government. Hell, at one time YOU were reporting for the government. Maybe they just want their kid to get through school. Maybe they want to keep their job. Maybe they're sick and want to be able to visit the doctor. It's always a simple reason. Good people always do bad things for simple reasons.
You want to protest. You want your family back. You need help for your leg. This is way beyond anything you ever wanted. It started because you just wanted to see fair treatment in farms. Now you're basically considered a terrorist, and everyone around you might be reporting on you. You definitely can't use a phone or email. You can't get a job. You can't even trust people face to face anymore. On every corner, there are people with guns. They are as scared as you are. They just don't want to lose their jobs. They don't want to be labeled as traitors.
This all happened in the country where I live.
You want to know why revolutions happen? Because little by little by little things get worse and worse. But this thing that is happening now is big. This is the key ingredient. This allows them to know everything they need to know to accomplish the above. The fact that they are doing it is proof that they are the sort of people who might use it in the way I described. In the country I live in, they also claimed it was for the safety of the people. Same in Soviet Russia. Same in East Germany. In fact, that is always the excuse that is used to surveillance everyone. But it has never ONCE proven to be the reality.
Maybe Obama won't do it. Maybe the next guy won't, or the one after him. Maybe this story isn't about you. Maybe it happens 10 or 20 years from now, when a big war is happening, or after another big attack. Maybe it's about your daughter or your son. We just don't know yet. But what we do know is that right now, in this moment we have a choice. Are we okay with this, or not? Do we want this power to exist, or not?
You know for me, the reason I'm upset is that I grew up in school saying the pledge of allegiance. I was taught that the United States meant "liberty and justice for all." You get older, you learn that in this country we define that phrase based on the constitution. That's what tells us what liberty is and what justice is. Well, the government just violated that ideal. So if they aren't standing for liberty and justice anymore, what are they standing for? Safety?
Ask yourself a question. In the story I told above, does anyone sound safe?
I didn't make anything up. These things happened to people I know. We used to think it couldn't happen in America. But guess what? It's starting to happen.
I actually get really upset when people say "I don't have anything to hide. Let them read everything." People saying that have no idea what they are bringing down on their own heads. They are naive, and we need to listen to people in other countries who are clearly telling us that this is a horrible sign and it is time to stand up and say no.
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I think this was the best post I have read about freedom.
I feel very lucky and very worried about the future same time.
At least I'm in better position then Gringos, our IRS don't want ransom from me for living in a place of my liking.
We really have no idea how far their abilities go and how far they will go in using them. The brother of a good freind of mine was flying to England a few weeks back. He bought his ticket on line as many of us do these days but the online service would not allow him to print out his ticket. When he arrived at the airport he was pulled aside and questioned. I don't think he thought a lot about it as we all hear the stories about airport security and just assumed he was the unlucky random pick. He was allowed to fly out but upon his return flight from England he was detained again for a more lengthy "interview". As it turned out he was flagged as a potential threat. When he pressed the issue he was told it was due to the fact that he had purchased ammo reload supplies with the same card as he bought the ticket. Now, I suppose the connection here is not a huge stretch, but one can't help but wonder to what degree they abilities to proccess this kind of info. I'm pretty sure this is in part enabled by last years's Consumer Protection Bill that was supposed to protect us from unfair credit practices but also happens to allow data mining of all credit card purchases. This thing runs deep and there is no telling where it will end.
Oh dear, since 1977 I have been to USA couple of hundred times, they still treat me as a threath.
I'm a nobody, can't do shit about it.
All of my travels been business, I will not spend my hard earned money to be treated like shit, still like americans thou.
Thank you for taking the time to put your perspective into words. Such warnings need to be heard by many with deaf ears before our freedom becomes a distant memory.
Any time this is posted i will encourage it be read in its entirety.
And I'm still waiting on a response. I would like to know that you are alright. Re:Istanbul
If you don't understand that it has begun here(the US) of the average citizen, under the guise(soon to be lifted fully) of protection from "terrorists" then i envy the serenity of your existence.
your avatar suits your exemplary post, MarsInScorpio - intensity of focus even in the face of great fear.
while I realise these are not your words, your attraction to sharing them is obvious, and I thank you for putting this out there for others to pay attention to.
know that things are not the way we have been led to believe folks, and adjust your mind accordingly.
"Cro-Magnon Man" wanabe, has lost his tribe.
"I'm Pro-Mignon Man" ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Worcestershire Sauce Without Anchovy Paste Is A Fraud World Tour
Monedas You're a, (highly manipulative)> misunderstood person, with a lot of guilt.
You have (zero interest) in finance. You've already made your money, and want to see it distributed properly.
Obama was elected by the young and minorities.
But Obama is just the latest and greatest fuckup since the Great Society was spawned which led to today's debt overhang.
What is amazing is that even during this difficult economic time, there are normal citizens having great success. There are many others having decent success and living fulfilling lives. It's shocking how much opportunity is still out there, in the USA and other countries.
Politicians have been a workaround situation my entire adult life, and while they are worse than ever, they are still just a thing to be worked around. And I'm still doing so.
I've been told since the early 1960's that everything was going to collapse, and that money would be worthless, etc. I was told that there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans, and both parties were conspiring to ruin the country.
Maybe so, but they suck at it, luckily. I'm glad I didn't just sit on my butt for 45 years waiting for the collapse to happen. What a waste that would have been.
So what industry should i be in in 2-4 years then? Or should i just shuck used cars?
Seriously, I'm asking. How much money were you born with?
It was my pleasure to junk this piece of shit article. Who cares about popularity ratings according to the lamestream media? I sure as hell don't.
Edit: thanks Tyler for the website. But every now and then you really lay an egg. This is one of those times.
The Jayson Blair Times, ie. 'All the News thats Fitted to Print', eagerly awaits your visit.
Luckily industrial civilization is collapsing!
Can you imagine having to put up with these fake red/blue politicians for say the next 50 years?
Hmm, I don't know. When civilization collapses, then the men behind the scenes come out to play. You think the red/blue puppets are bad, wait until you catch an eyeload of the fuckers pulling the strings.
Yes...I'm not under any delusions that we're headed for a picnic.
Every dog has its day. There are no more Roman emperors, there are no more Mayan priests disembowling people at the top of pyramids, and there are no longer any Egyptian Pharoahs.
Some day soon (and probably sooner than most realize) there will no longer be a Federal Reserve Chairman, or a Bank of International Settlements. No more democratic or republican parties, and no too big to fail banks. These are relics from a time of abundance, a time of pyramid buidling, when the topsoil was thick and the oil wells gushing.
We have now entered the stage where things fall apart. The collapse phase. No amount of printing presses, fraudulent accounting or big media lies can put this pyramid back together. I'm not wishing this upon anyone, but that's where we're at. A cursory study of ecology, statistics, the exponential function and thermodynamics (let alone reading the news) is all one needs to realize with total certainty that we are now in collapse.
The silver lining is that all thes assholes go down with their pyramids! There's not a thing they can do, nothing. Their power to control is depleting right along side their oil and natural gas wells. They oh so want you to think there's a zillion years of oil! and Ben Bernanke is this super smart guy who can make the economy work again by adjusting a few levers.
It's over though, and when you finally get a look behind the curtain, you'll see not powerful rulers of the world, but desperate, insecure, frail little people.
I think we are at the "Emperor is Naked" part. We as a culture officially knows everything is fake.
So, Yes, the collapse for reasons you outlined, has to happen and it will happen, but the pin prick in the balloon is the world wide epiphany or collective public acknowledgement that all markets are rigged, News is fake, govenment lies, and we are in over our heads and it's coming down.
Jimi said "Fall Mountains, Just Don't Fall On Me"
I think that should be our bye word.
Safeguard your family and close friends...
Where's the guy that threw his shoe at GWB? We need that guy. Now.
Has anybody ever won the Nobel Peace Prize twice?
Be prepared for it.
That's good .... he won it for Peace .... now, he'll get it for Voo Doo Economics ! LOL
Vote Guy Fawkes - the only person to enter Parliament with honest intentions.
If in doubt, Google it.
Bush caused all this!
i bet they fudged it by 10 points.
I really wish Obama was white so everyone could move past his race and acknowledge what a complete disaster this jerkoff is.
It's the unemployment stupid.
"They regularly increase and multiply the first injuries, till at length the inattentive people are compelled to perceive the heaviness of their burdens.--They begin to complain and enquire--but too late.--They find their oppressors so strengthened by success, and themselves so entangled in examples of express authority on the part of the rulers, and of tacit recognition on their own part, that they are quite confounded: for millions entertain no other idea of the legality of power, than that it is founded on the exercise of power. They voluntarily fasten their chains, by adopting a pusillanimous opinion, "that there will be too much danger in attempting a remedy," or another opinion no less fatal, "that the government has a right to treat them as it does." They then seek a wretched relief for their minds, by persuading themselves, that to yield their obedience is to discharge their duty. The deplorable poverty of spirit, that prostrates all the dignity bestowed by divine providence on our nature--of course succeeds. From these reflections I conclude, that every free state should incessantly watch, and instantly take alarm on any addition being made to the power exercised over them," - John Dickinson, Letters From a Farmer In Pennsylvania:, Letter XI, 1767
Heh. Americans have no idea of how screwed they already are.
Transparent?
This confirms he is a closet soviet.
Young people? GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
Perhaps, next time round, someone who promises change and fucking means it! The lying, spying SOB.
oh, bummer. change? yes we can't.
FUCK Ocuntus....the douche is living large..for now....until the trillionaires get bored with him/he fucks himself up too much...
For now, the fucker is content on playing golf, dressing up in cool suits, hob-nobbing with elitist trash, and appearing to care....which the cunt doesn't....at all.....in fact, his plan is going along nicely, his his fucked up noggin.....
Hey, Under 30s! Hey, independents! Hey, low/no-information voters (or not...)! Hey, women (or not...)! Hey, Super Nintendo Chalmers!
Nice of you and all the other idiots to finally catch on to what EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD ALREADY KNEW!
"What? Obama can't be trusted? This is an outrage! Who's responsible?!? Someone's gonna pay, just as soon as I figure out who it was. ...and after Dancing with the Idol is over." You're like sheep who were fleeced last week and just realized there's a breeze in the room. Way to catch up.
The only thing dumber is the idea that the repubes will be a logical alternative next time around. As if they're going to start dismantling the Obamanation. Maybe that guy from last time will run again as a repube. The news doesn't cover him much. I remember it was Ron something... Ron Burgundy?
That's democracy for you. Collective wisdom of individual ignorance. Considering Obama had questionable history how could a whole group part of society finally figure out that Obama is not a honest guy? People like these actually vote in a democracy. An idiot is a old greek word that meant a person who didn't participate in democracy. I can say I am a idiot, and really don't feel bad about it. I rather be an idiot, than a dummy.
"For First Time Majority Finds President Untrustworthy: Obama Approval Plunges Among Young Americans"
Gee, the process of growing up and, in the end, properly becoming completely cynical about much of what you've been told and once believed ala H.L. Mencken can be so very painful.