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And the hits just keep on coming for McDonalds. An animal rights organization is urging McDonald’s Canada to take a firm stand against what it calls “shocking animal cruelty” captured on a graphic video it says was taken at two Alberta farms, which shows dead hens rotting in the cages, and chicks being covered in feces. . As The Globe and Mail reports, McDonald’s, however, says while it does get eggs from Burnbrae along with many other Canadian companies, it says its eggs do not come from the farms referenced in the W5 story.

 

 

Via The Globe And Mail,

“They’re so crammed inside those cages they can’t spread their wings, they can’t walk, they can’t turn around, they can’t engage in any of their natural behaviour,” said Stephane Perrais, director of operations with Mercy For Animals Canada.

 

“They spend one year of their miserable life in there, basically producing eggs and after that time period, they’re considered spent by the industry because their productivity is declined, and then they’re slaughtered.”

 

The group says the footage was taken by an undercover investigator who was hired as a farm worker by Ku-Ku Farms and Creekside Grove Farms for 10 weeks in May.

 

The video also shows dead hens rotting in the cages, and chicks being covered in feces.

A statement said McDonald’s said it does not condone animal abuse by its suppliers.

 

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“We care about the humane treatment of animals and believe they should be free from cruelty, abuse and neglect,” said spokeswoman Karin Campbell in the written statement emailed to The Canadian Press.

 

Abuse is never tolerated in our supply chain and McDonald’s has strict policies in place concerning the treatment of animals that our suppliers must adhere to at all times. We also work with our suppliers and outside experts to continuously improve our standards and practices, both within McDonald’s and across the industry.”

 

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Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:53 | 4077008 HedgeAccordingly
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Just sign up for obamacare - http://hedge.ly/177cmgH

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:55 | 4077018 Motorhead
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Yeah, sure, pick on McDonald's.  Like no other outfit (or nobody) buys from this chicken concentration camp...fucked up as it is.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:07 | 4077079 hedgeless_horseman
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Don't put all your eggs into one incubator.  Keep some for omelets!

 

 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:10 | 4077087 Jason T
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i'm Hedgless's #1 fan!

 

i got 6 happy hens a laying myself.. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:18 | 4077090 hedgeless_horseman
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Here are some of our Mottled Houdans in the pasture outside the Chateau du Poulet.

They live a higher quality life than any human that works at McDonalds.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:20 | 4077110 McMolotov
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"You didn't build that hen house."

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:52 | 4077221 hedgeless_horseman
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Yes, I did build it.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:39 | 4077361 yabyum
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Once you have had a homelaid egg, you will never go back. HH has it running on all levels. Even if your kids grow a tiny herb garden and you have a couple of vegies in a pot, you are sticking a thumb in the eye of the beast, and eating better too.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:14 | 4077455 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Yes, I did build it.

While that is a good thing, I feel that I must, at this juncture, point out that embedded media links with autoplay=on make the baby Jesus cry.

Wed, 12/04/2013 - 13:04 | 4214030 sumbitch
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Is there a way to turn this Autoplay off? I hate it.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:39 | 4077524 Kirk2NCC1701
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Seems like McCanada McChicken "farms" need to be McCleansed with some McMolotov McCocktails.

McCrispy or McTraditional?  ;-)

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:22 | 4077119 Ignatius
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Anyone who spends time around chickens realizes what a fine creature they are.

The factory system often removes the beaks, which is a sin.  Chickens use their beaks to experience their world.  By analogy, imagine, as a man, going through life without a dick.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:24 | 4077127 McMolotov
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John Boehner knows what it's like.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:27 | 4077140 Ignatius
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So you're sayin' the name "Boner" is a ruse?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:41 | 4077178 McMolotov
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An orange herring.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:33 | 4077506 TheFourthStooge-ing
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An orange herring.

Isn't that what the Njorwegians use to make lutefisk? Or is it the Fjinlanders?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:27 | 4077138 Agent P
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I hear what you're saying...I'm married. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:45 | 4077193 mercy
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Then you'd be a woman.

 

Always bleeding and complaining.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:07 | 4077269 Uber Vandal
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Old adage:

Never trust anything that bleeds for five dies and does not die.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:18 | 4077294 Hongcha
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They are amazing with their beaks.  I saw our chickens pick ants (average size) off stucco walls without leaving a mark.  

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:24 | 4077128 DadzMad
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Awesome setup.  The friend who provides me with my egg and meat supply has a similar setup.  He has an Itanlian breed (the name escapes me) that is very tame and will wander into the kitchen like the family pet.  There is nothing like the taste of real meat not contaminated with a lifetime of stress hormones.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:29 | 4077148 Bunga Bunga
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What? Those chickens can't watch CNBC?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:37 | 4077167 Agent P
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HH, have you ever hypnotized your chickens?  My dad grew up on a farm and told me that if you hold a chicken's beak down to a straight line on the ground, it puts them into a hypnotic state and they will stay there until you move them.  He said he would get in trouble when my grandma would come home and all the chickens were lined up out in the driveway.  I've always wanted to try this, but I've never had chickens.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:42 | 4077179 hedgeless_horseman
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My kids do something similiar.  By sticking the chicken's head under its wing, they can make it go into a sleep-like trance.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:55 | 4077229 Agent P
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Same drill for planting pheasants. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:51 | 4077216 Urban Redneck
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We need a youtube video of the Hedgeless Chicken Plucker...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:16 | 4077291 trader1
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very nice hedgeless.  i didn't make you for the sustainable farming type.  

are you off grid?  or only partial?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:53 | 4077398 jimmytorpedo
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Nice "monitor barn" style coop HH

Wish I could post a picture of my "Chicken-bago"

A converted pop up trailer for my 20 feathered friends.

They love to scratch in old cow patties, which ironically have more nutritional value in bugs in them than a McDonalds "beef patty"

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 10:53 | 4079433 screw face
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In #Eritrea .........'ZERO' McDonald's

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You can't eat money
You can't breath money
You can't drink money

.......bank on it

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:40 | 4077526 thunderchief
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I've eaten a lot of African chicken. None of this factory chemical crap, where the meat is always white as tofu, and has about the same character.
There is nothing like a half African chicken with some rice and a cold Star beer.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:57 | 4077024 slaughterer
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Recently got food poisoning from a McMuff.  This explains it.  

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:02 | 4077052 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Irish pussy can be dangerous. Poke it all you want, just don't eat it.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:03 | 4077060 irie1029
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No most likely from the minimum wage person making it.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:40 | 4077177 RafterManFMJ
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This video has made me hungry.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:12 | 4077281 putaipan
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good thing we've implimented domestic terrorism laws to prevent this kind of reporting on our food industry in this country ....

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:55 | 4077015 HulkHogan
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This is why I'm a vegan.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:01 | 4077046 irie1029
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please tell me you dont eat soy crap those processes are worse than those eggs.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:07 | 4077074 Motorhead
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I know some vegans who won't even eat honey.  Some how, bees are ruthlessly tortured.  Come on....

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:15 | 4077096 Quus Ant
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I know people who eat McRibs. 

Who's the crazier?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:57 | 4077238 tarsubil
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Tough call. I can't believe MickeyD's actually uses real eggs.

Not mentioned in the video but I'm pretty sure those chickens lack feathers because they've pecked them off each other from being so closely quartered.

Whatever your diet, don't eat at MickeyDs.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:27 | 4077321 MopWater
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McDonalds uses whole shell egg.  Burger King uses premade frozen egg patties.  Both use real eggs.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:16 | 4077458 Hulk
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Whats produced in those battery cages aren't even close to real eggs...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:32 | 4077154 Platinum
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For some, their veganism (or whatever -ism they end up following) becomes a religious competition of sorts.

 

I knew a girl in San Francisco who told me she was transitioning to eating only raw food that a plant "voluntarily gave up", such as an apple found on the ground. I told her "Good luck with that. San Francisco has plenty of fruit, but it isn't falling from any tree".

Everybody on bus laughed except her.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:03 | 4077261 Agent P
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I bet if you told her you voted for Obama twice, you could have had sex with her. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:25 | 4077132 Miffed Microbio...
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That soy crap is a sure way to get man boobs fast. With all the environmental estrogens and estrogen mimicing substances floating around anyway, men should never add soy to there diet.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:22 | 4077117 Miffed Microbio...
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I wouldn't feel so safe and secure in being a vegan. Vegetable sources of outbreaks are much more common. Salad greens, berries, tomatoes,cantelopes are now routinely cited for Listeria, Cyclospora, Hep A. I've tried to explain when you raise animals in a CAFO, these diseases will eventually go everywhere. We are selecting for virulent drug resistant organisms by modern farming techniques. You can contain this as well as you can contain urine in a " no peeing section" in a swimming pool. Importing foreign produce where this diseases are endemic. We had a case where a young girl was hocking up Ascaris worms from eating lettuce from Mexico. Not pretty.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:37 | 4077163 Frank N. Beans
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HulK a vegan?  who'da knowed.

 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:12 | 4077279 Hulk
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Remember Frank, Gorillas are strict vegetarians !!!

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:32 | 4077336 robertocarlos
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Why did the gorilla in Calgary bite off the zoo-keepers finger?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:50 | 4077391 Hulk
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Because it smelt like Banana ???

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:03 | 4077432 Quus Ant
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Never check a gorilla's prostate. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:16 | 4077461 Hulk
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Nor give prostate massage during orgasm...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:43 | 4077539 homme
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Because it annoys the Gorilla?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:42 | 4077184 TheMeatTrapper
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This is why I trap my meat and buy my eggs from the guy down the street.

Organic, Free Range Meat Farming - AKA Trapping

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:12 | 4077280 johngaltfla
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Vegans are Monsanto robot pussies.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:56 | 4077023 bluskyes
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Chickens aren't people.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:59 | 4077036 EnglishMajor
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No, Solyent Green is.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:03 | 4077059 icanhasbailout
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you are what you eat

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:25 | 4077126 alangreedspank
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You're a vegetable ? Judging by your avatar, a cat. Which means you eat.....ew.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:44 | 4077189 icanhasbailout
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Dinnertime at icanhashouse goes something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owREFLCnDFE

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:20 | 4077102 john39
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you are what you eat...  how much filthy diseased cheap meat have you eaten lately?

btw, not a vegetarian.  its all about the quality of the meat

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:39 | 4077834 bluskyes
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Typical to these sorts of operations, only raw data is presented without balanced context. Irrelevant information is also presented as an artificial context.

I worked for the largest turkey grower/processor in Ontario, and I am quite sure of the quality of the meat produced there.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 19:22 | 4077632 Kirk2NCC1701
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Neither are we.  Not since Corporations "are persons too", per the US Supreme Court.  Prepare for your NWO existence.

And "Infidels" or "Goyem" are not seen as "people" by some religious zealots or "purists".

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:57 | 4077025 _SILENCER
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Anyone stupid enough to eat fast food is on a slow suicide mission. In other news, the USG pretty much thinks of us the same way the chicken farmers treat their livestock. Covered in shit, waiting to have our necks wrung.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:03 | 4077262 Acet
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For all the (American) percieved evils of the EU, at least thanks to regulations the worst industrially grown food around here is several times better than the hormone and antibiotic filled, shit dwelling, hyperstressed crap that passes for food in North America.

If you want to know how most food is grown in North America I suggest you read a book called "The Omnivore's Dilema".

PS: Plenty of food-wise people over there too. I'm talking about the stuff that the masses consume, not what the wiser ones eat.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:58 | 4077030 Seasmoke
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I will wait for a salad on the Dollar Menu. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:07 | 4077077 robertocarlos
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Iceberg lettuce almost killed me once.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:14 | 4077095 krispkritter
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You rammed it in your rowboat and sank?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:23 | 4077123 robertocarlos
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Did not lose one ounce of gold. Lost a nice towel though.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:58 | 4077032 Trimmed Hedge
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Did Somebody Say McFeces?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 15:59 | 4077039 Global Hunter
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I worked for 9 days as a chicken catcher and that's all I have to say on that other than this isn't surprising to me one bit...sadly.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:13 | 4077283 johngaltfla
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Bingo. Fast food comes with an acceptable risk curve. It's sort of like eating at a street market in the Caribbean or South America; however I'll put my money on the street vendors and local markets over McBarf's anytime.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:00 | 4077043 irie1029
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That is why I buy pastured and only unprocessed foods.  I never eat at fast food chains.  All that greed is bad for the soul.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:57 | 4078405 Barefooted_Tramp
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people are so concerned what you put into their body....if they were only half as concerned what they put into their mind, the world would be a much better place.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:05 | 4077065 robertocarlos
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I mostly buy free range eggs that cost almost 8 dollars a dozen. I also buy pre-cooked eggs and I'll try to find out the source.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:25 | 4077130 Agent P
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I don't think every chicken/egg has to be free range and cost $8/dz, but the treatment of these chickens is fucking disgraceful.  There has to be a happy medium here.  I would never treat an animal that way...even if I were planning to slaughter and eat it someday.  

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:41 | 4077181 Rainman
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right-o .... let's go drop some bombs on some brown people somewhere

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:00 | 4077251 Agent P
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Are they free range brown people? 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:29 | 4077147 Miffed Microbio...
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Wow, that's steep! I raise my own free range hens on organic feed which costs twice GMO feed. I charge $3.50/ doz and 2 dozen for $6. I just break even. I have plenty of customers. Now I see why.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:55 | 4077230 mercy
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I need to move near you...

 

I pay $6 per dozen, and, even still, the quality of the eggs are questionable. The shells are not as hard as I would expect and the yolks are not as deeply colored either.

 

Oh well, atleast I know they were pastured.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:58 | 4077246 Ignatius
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Real food costs more, and it should.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:07 | 4077271 Hulk
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I get 10 bucks a dozen for my pastured hen eggs. Salatin is up in the 4 dollar price range in a little community in Virginia (where eggs can be a s low as 89 cents a dozen)...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:31 | 4077333 Miffed Microbio...
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That's incredible! San Diego is very high priced but the most I've seen at whole foods is $7/doz. I'm paying $30 for a 40lb bag which gets me through 2 weeks if I have enough forage. Now it's a week and a half so I'm praying for rain soon. My biggest challenge is to find feed without soy. There is a company called Scratch & Peck that sells it but I will have to buy a ton.(40 sacks) which is quite a lot for a backyard operation. The funny thing is none of my American native friends will buy mine fearing salmonella ( that really made me laugh!). Another opened one up to find a speck of blood and damn near passed out. Another couldn't stand I had one hen that consistently laid a double yolk! One american returned a dozen because the eggs were orange not yellow therefore "bad".The foreign born friends love my eggs claiming they remind them of the eggs of their youth. The idiocy and ignorance of Americans never ceases to amaze me.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:43 | 4077371 Hulk
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My guess is that you could be getting a lot more, provided you are raising them on grass, which is critical for omega 3 production

The customers are quite interesting. I hand out a copy of the nutrient analysis of pastured hen eggs and also warn them of the orange, thick yolks

Its interesting that we have lost connection with how our food should look and taste. I have had two customers get in serious trouble with their significant others when they forgot to bring these eggs home!

Pastured hen egg analysis from Mother Earth news:

• 1/3 less cholesterol
• 1/4 less saturated fat
• 2/3 more vitamin A
• 2 times more omega-3 fatty acids
• 3 times more vitamin E
• 7 times more beta carotene

Read more: http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/tests-reveal-healthier-eggs.aspx#ixzz2iOYs7jcY
Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:29 | 4077495 tip e. canoe
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3 nutritious additions for a potent pasture & healthy chunky chickens:

comfrey, camelina, & clover

(bonus: purslane for a boost in O3's)

will all seed like a weed.

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Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:05 | 4077918 Exile on Mainstreet
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Soy is not bad if it was an non gmo organic WHOLE ROASTED SOY bean that was freashly cracked the day the feed was made.

If phtyo estogens are the concern, what do you think replaces the soy for protein in the no-soy feed? usually field peas. Another legume. ALL legumes produce phtyoestrogens. Then look at your forage. Alfalfa, clovers, birdsfoot trefoil, black medic, beans, peas, are all legumes and have pto estrogens.

I was at PASA last year at PSU and there was results finally available from real world trials on a psture system at 3 farms using soy vs no soy. The no soy trials produced more phytoestrogens than the soy in some cases. Conclusion: the clover pasture.

SO, you can just demonize soy. You need to be legume free if you worry about phyto estrogens.

If you just hate soy, I say it depends on the way the soy is handled and grown. Big difference between a whole, organic, roasted bean vs a conventional soy meal that was extruded with hexane.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:15 | 4078330 NuckingFuts
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Amen Brother! Testify!  +1 For some science and ag. knowledge

 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 20:55 | 4077882 Exile on Mainstreet
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Not sure your cost per lb on feed, but at 50 cents per lb it is costing you about $2.30 to produce per dozen. That is just cost of feed to produce a dozen. Then you have to add in anything else that goes into your production.

I add in the cost of the the pullet and our carton and label over the course of the year spread across the number of dozen we produce in a year. 

 

We raise meat birds (3000/yr) and layers (6,000 dozen from 300 birds) ON Pasture and organically fed

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:20 | 4078345 NuckingFuts
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I only do about 125 dozen a week.  but also have to add in times when I pay others to do my chicken chores, and you always loose some when they pasture, I factor in a good 15% killed by some kind of critter before shes done, weasels are my nemisis.  Sell for 3.30 by the 50 dozen+ those retail for 6.00

 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:30 | 4077497 bigrooster
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Shit $8 a dozen.  Drive you PHX and I will sell you mine for $4.  In all honesty it cost about $4 a dozen to break even.  But the point is that you have control over how they live and what they eat.  Chickens are actually interesting to watch, more so than some tropical bird that should have been left to live in the rain forest and is depressed living in your living room in a cage.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:23 | 4079121 tip e. canoe
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good point, but all chickens on the planet today descended from the jungle fowl in SE Asia.   so in a sense they are tropical birds as well.

also gives ya a clue of where to "pasture" them to most mimic their natural environment.

got woods?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:05 | 4077070 Ignatius
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Disgraceful.

If one chooses to be a "vegan", then great, but...

The issue is the moral treatment of animals NOT whether one chooses to be a vegetarian or not.  Humans are omnivores.  I don't like how the issue of moral treatment of animals is hijacked by those who choose vegetarianism as it hurts the cause of ethical treatment of animals.

Fuck the factory food system.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:23 | 4077125 Quus Ant
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Nothing is stopping omnivores from taking the lead on this issue. 

Other than an addiction to cheap meat. 

The spice must flow! 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 23:27 | 4078357 NuckingFuts
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For 99% of the US that is true, but some us know these animals we rasie to eat and have known them sice their birth.  There is nothing 'cheap' about that.  Yes,  Most folks are hooked on meat so cheap a moron could see something is worng.  Some of us, a few, don't buy grocerystore meat and never will.  I am taking the lead on the issue as a omnivore.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:27 | 4077139 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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Exactly.  I have absolutely no prbblem with vegetarianism or veganism as a personal choice as I can see how seeing a video such as the one above might make someone consider it.  What sets me off is when (usually) vegans go off on "everyone should go vegan to save the enviroment".  Bullshit.  The level of agricultural devastation needed for 7 billion to convert  to a plant based diet would obliterate not only the rain forests, but you would be saying bye-bye to most grasslands and other forests as well.  Not to mention such diets are intensive with such enviromentally destructive crops such as soybeans, wheat and corn.  And that doesn't even touch on the amount of fossil fuels burned/wasted to bring vegetables year round to places with short growing seasons.  The real enviromentally friendly diet is to eat the local herbivore who dines all day on the local (native) vegetation.  Venison and rabbit for everyone!

Fuck PETA and fuck agribusiness factory farm toxic cruelty as well.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:30 | 4077151 Ignatius
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Joel Salatin, et al, have shown the way:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nIcfh2UqV8

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:37 | 4077165 Miffed Microbio...
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Absolutely correct. I have found vegans and most vegetarians have morphed it into a religion. They tend to sound smug when they say " I'm a vegan" You don't catch meat eaters proclaiming " I'm a carnivore!" unless they are responding to the statement " I'm a Vegan".

Grazing animals are vital for the health of grasslands. One cannot exist without the other.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:57 | 4077242 robertocarlos
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To be fair I'm in Canada where everything costs more than in America. The small grocer where I shop charges high prices so it is $7.68 a dozen and the same eggs are $6.xx at the over-priced organic store 1 kilometer away from me. The same eggs are not available at Safeway.

I asked a young woman at the organic store why she was buying a 350 gram package of American produced bacon for $9.99 and she said "because it's worth it". It's 10 slices of bacon. And it's pretty good. I don't remember the brand.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:21 | 4077304 highly debtful
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You're absolutely right. Three years ago I saw a similar video here in Europe and in seeing all the suffering and cruelty, I decided to put my money where my mouth is: I now have approximatively 60 chicken in what is an extremely large backyard and I have built two enormous hen houses, guarded by our faithful Border Collie. 20 hens are assigned to egg laying duties, the others are raised for the meat. I butcher them myself and I pride myself in always doing this in such a way that the least amount of stress and suffering is inflicted upon the birds. I remember that once my - then younger - son asked me: "hey dad, why don't you chop off the head of one of your chickens and then release it to see how far it'll go?" I explained to him that I would never do that, because every living creature deserves our respect and should be allowed its diginity, even when it is killed for its meat. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:59 | 4077421 Ignatius
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You're a hero in my world.  Well done.  I only buy from farmers I know and who act the same.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 19:38 | 4077671 Kirk2NCC1701
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At the risk of pointing out what should also be 'obvious', but isn't to most people... aside from eating Monsanto corn, factory "farms" pump the animals full of HORMONES and ANTIBIOTICS.  Which we and our kids then ingest.

And you wonder why all sorts of Immune System health problems are on the rise.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:15 | 4077091 tony wilson
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you folks nose dem satanick folks use babies aborted babies for soup and fizzy drink flavors you du nose that right.

it is a fact it isw a given 

YOU MUST DIE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER

 

 

 

the Obama Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) has decided that PepsiCo's arrangement with San Diego, Cal.-based Senomyx, which produces flavor enhancing chemicals for Pepsi using human embryonic kidney tissue, simply constitutes "ordinary business operations."

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035276_Pepsi_fetal_cells_business_operations.html#ixzz2iOD7O4BA

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:18 | 4077103 Dre4dwolf
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Come on, chickens are not fucking intelligent and sensitive animals.... seriously... they are food not pets.

The only thing that should be looked into is the sanitation of the chicken so as to lessen the danger of contamination of the food.

You could cut the head off a chicken leaving as little of the brain intact as possible attached to the spinal column and the damned thing could live for years if you feed it.

They almost don't even need their brain, that's how little it is used.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:05 | 4077264 Hulk
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Trust me, these things are intelligent and do become pets.  They will follow you around everywhere, which is hysterical sounding when walking into the woods. I have one hen that walks up to me at dusk, wanting to be carried into the Henhouse. Chickens communicate with each other and create the widest variety of sounds of any animal on the planet...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:38 | 4077358 MopWater
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Theyre not following you because youre interesting and they want to see what youre doing, they follow you because you are the top of the pecking order.

All animals communicate, it doesnt mean its intelligent communication.  They are not intelligent animals.  They become pets if you allow them to, that is not their initial intent for use.  They are a domesticated animal, like cows, sheep, and hogs.  I live on a farm, I work on a farm, I know exactly how these animals act.  Should they be treated with some respect?  Absolutly.  Should they recieve the same respect as a pet like a dog?  Absolutly not.

And please keep in mind the reason for groups like PETA and Mercy for Animals.  It isnt to make food production "happier and healtheir", its to end the consumption of animal products as a whole.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:48 | 4077382 Hulk
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And I thought I was interesting!!! They follow me because I feed them... Agreed about Peta...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:40 | 4077528 minosgal
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You've got to admit, though, the chihuahua is an efficient protein source.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 20:55 | 4081399 Papasmurf
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Mexican food gives me heartburn.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:42 | 4077535 bigrooster
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@Dre4dwolf...my chickens are probably smarter than you scumbag.  And the difference is that somone wants to eat them.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 22:49 | 4078258 tony wilson
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dre4wolf 

go shoot yourself in your big fat fuckin head.

lay on the ground forever and decay bag to dirt you fag city bitch.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:20 | 4077111 AustrianJim
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Suggested reading: The Omnivore's Dilemma.

Suggested shopping: Whole Foods, local farmers, etc.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:58 | 4077244 Urban Redneck
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The last I was in a Whole Foods the chicken didn't look like Chicken it looked like GMO McFood. Pam Andersen's DDs on a chicken are NOT natural, but that's what sells, even at Whole Foods, sheeple feed.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:17 | 4077292 Hulk
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In general, organic and organic outlets have been hijacked and produce crap, just as you point out. You have to buy from a farmer whose farm you have visited, its the only way to know for sure...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:21 | 4077114 CheapBastard
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Brutal!

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:29 | 4077146 0b1knob
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< Ban autoplay videos on Zerohedge.   If a person wants to see a video they can click on it.

< I LOVE autoplay videos!  The sudden unexpected full volume makes my day!

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:19 | 4077297 Hulk
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I blocked the url... I have seen this crap up close and personal and don't need to see more. The odor in these cafos will literally kill you...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:33 | 4077156 Col_Sanders
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The average chicken is one step up the evolutionary ladder from lettuce.  They will eat and live in their own shit whether you force them to or not.  And if left on their own, there's a better-than-even chance they'll kill themselves doing something stupid.

And I'm sorry, but if you're not going to raise your own, you need to stop bitching about how they're raised for you. 

No one is forcing you to eat them.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:38 | 4077170 Frank N. Beans
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fortunately all those chickens live in the chicken matrix and don't realize what we're actually doing to them

 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:39 | 4077176 DannoH
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"We treat all of our animals in a humane and respectful manner right up until the time we murder them to make your dinner. Cheers!"

 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:53 | 4077223 Ignatius
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Funny, but intention matters, it's not murder.  Everything is alive and everything eats.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:18 | 4077465 viahj
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and stress free meat tastes better. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 16:58 | 4077245 f16hoser
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This is exactly why I have my own chickens. Free-range, non GMO fed. In fact, my chickens are so friendly they'll eat out of my hand and follow me around the yard. They're put away at night so they can safely roost. The eggs look different and taste BETTER than store bought. A good healthy and happy hen will produce eggs for up to 3 years. 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:00 | 4077252 Hulk
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99 % of our eggs and poultry are raised this way. Its heartless. The product is crap, literally. These companies view their consumers in the same way they view these chickens, they couldn't care less about either...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:33 | 4077344 zipit
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Why is that?

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:37 | 4077353 Hulk
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Because they are spawn of Satan...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:01 | 4077255 ebworthen
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Last time I got an Egg McMuffin they wanted almost $3 for it (not a meal or coffee - just the muffin).

Friggin' ridiculous - damn thing probably costs .20 cents to make.  No more!

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:21 | 4077305 Hongcha
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Hedgeless - do coons ever try to burrow under the rails in the fenced-in area?  If so do you weigh it down or put up rocks or anything.  Thanks.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:35 | 4077347 Hulk
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Skunks, Martins and weasels burrow. Skunks are awesome tunnelers and love chicken. Racoons try to pry open, which is why my houses are lined with 1 inch hardware cloth. The best protection from these critters is an anatolian shepard or two.We have seven as they tend to multiply...

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 09:29 | 4079142 tip e. canoe
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ever seen what a weasel does to a chicken?   head comes clean off.

there's a reason why they call them weasels.

POP GOES THE!

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 17:35 | 4077350 are we there yet
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Those chickens should write their congressrooster. How do you bribe a rooster? Soros is taking notes.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:20 | 4077470 jonjon831983
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Food Inc part 2.

Nothing really changes, we like our food fast n cheap.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 18:21 | 4077471 bigrooster
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This is why I have 8 hens in my 15X15 feet free range area in my back yard.  You are what you eat.  I live in Phoenix and most cities around the country let you keep laying hens, not roosters.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 19:45 | 4077690 Rainman
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here we go again...gender bias for sure.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 19:18 | 4077620 Duc888
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Vegans are a funny bunch.

Explain two things:

1.Canine teeth in humans.

2. The Inuit peoples diet prior to meeting up with "modern man".

But hey, eat all the rabbit food ya want.   Humans are omnivores, deal with it.

 

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 21:33 | 4078018 Ignatius
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Tyler

Please STOP with the AUTO-start, embedded videos.

Thanks for your consideration.

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 02:51 | 4078577 Notarocketscientist
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Too much people.... soylent green....

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!