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"Obama Built That" - Behold Obamacare In All Its Lines Of Code Glory
"Obama built that"... And now good luck tearing it down and its several hundred million lines of code, and rebuilding it from scratch.
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You know it's Bernanke coding, Ctrl-P that shit!
I guess the government contractors are paid by the line of code. And/or they spend all of their code on interlaced schemes of data collection. (Seems like the US people got ripped off again)
Never write more code in the morning than you can test, debug and delete in the same afternoon.
Well, when they need ALL your information so they can be sure of how best to screw you out of any assets you have left you KNOW it is going to take a lot of code and database coordination along with tying into NSA in Utah and the IRS hive.
So nobody advising the president had the balls to say "we're a bit heavy on the code, a tad excessive" or he was just too high to give a shit what anybody was telling him? I know he's a puppet but it does have his name on it for crissakes.
It's a long walk to start of the back nine, and code monkeys aren't typically known for their athleticism.
He didn't know...this is his signature legislation afterall, which meant so much to single mothers with breast cancer.
So he went golfing.
Man, is Obama ever screwed. If he weren't such a fascist, I'd feel bad for him.
Yeah, it is really going to suck to have to golf/vacation/deny his way through this for another three years.....
Fascists have plans. Obama just wants to watch the USA burn.
I wouldn't be surprised if they had a working backup program they can debut in November much to the chagrin of the Republicans.
That would truly be Pure Evil, PE; but I'm thinkin' they ain't that bright...
I'm not so sure he's screwed.
Just a few weeks ago the repubs were demanding a 1 year delay for this mess. IF the dems had a clue about how bad this was going to be, WHY did they not negotiate?? as bad a beating that the repubs were taking in the press, Obama could have negotiated a 6 mos extension and something else (immigration, gun control, sequester ) and saved himself the embarrassment of this rollout. This just makes me ponder what the real motive is. Why do this??, there has to be a reason.
Right now, there are more cancellations than enrollments in insurance plans. If this continues, they will go broke and we could only be saved by a govt run single payer system. probably take about 3 years for all that to play out though.
When it comes to writing code, does size matter?
Code size is a measure of complexity and a bloated code base spells huge trouble for cost, defects and maintainability. Testing is measured in terms of code coverage, i.e. each path through the code needs to be tested. Bottom line: If it's true that the code base is as large as shown, then it is likely it will never work correctly.
It should be apparent to everyone that nothing this government does would ever be without excess in size and failure.
No bid contracts.
Further subcontracted out to businesses run by women, minorities, and the disabled,
Which would be fine if they were chosen purely on a proven track record rather than by goals of diversity, but diversity trumped ability.
Lol. Some daily kos true believer is butt hurt.
Facts are stubborn things. Ignoring facts does not change them
I wonder if some clever programmer that understood what was going on with the real code also suggested the Obamacare phone number to his "put it on the intertubes" supervisor as a warning to us all. Not that some clever 20something programmer would do such a thing.
If one were paranoid, he would not get on the website.
Ho Lee Fuk!
Greenspan on Kudlow tonight - blathering and drooling his drivel:
"Central Banks have a limited amount of ability to effect market...", then, Dear Professor, you argue that the FED should GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY, which you didn't do in the least.
He is weeping tears for the banks and bankers. He says there is no inflation (just ignore food, healthcare, rent, electricity, housing, college tuition, lack of career employment, equity markets...er...most of the economy).
"Golly, we gave trillions to the banks and corporations and it is just sitting there on their balance sheets."
Imagine that; you reward malfeasant banks, insurers, and corporations for fucking over the common person and they are holding on to the money and not hiring people for career employment.
Wow, what a surprise. No punishment for MBS's, CDS's, LIBOR rigging, outright stealing, fees, no interest on savings and investment, encouraging people to borrow then raising rates...WTF did you expect to happen you DOLT!?!?!?
Greenspan: "The real problem is that when the iron curtain came down Fabian Socialism switched to capitalism and that caused a huge flow of savings which suppressed the real rate of savings."
WTF?!?!? What the fuck is this unholy monster bullshitting about!?!?
OMFG!!! What!?!? East Germany?
Fucking PhD dumbshit.
Holy Hell.
Built via shovel ready jobs in America right?
But But But Obama made speeches and said it will be all better in just a couple of weeks/sorry, months/sorry years/that dam Bush!
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/health-exchange/2013/10/28/most-individual-health-policies-to-be-cancelled-under-obamacare-report/?mod=MW_home_latest_news
mOOchelle be laffin down the vail slopes
Ain't no Mountain Wide Enough...
Complete bullshit. Not even close.
Why does no one ask why the .gov spent over $600 million for a website that sells insurance for private corporations?
I don't think Obama believes that we taxpayers should be asking ANYTHING of them except where to sign and when to bend over.
And if you want any consideration during the ass raping make sure you BYOL. (Bring Your Own Lube)
Couple things. Legacy systems on the backend need to be integrated to the front-end user interface. ie the internet browser we are all familiar with and use regularly talks with a lot of differing systems on the backend where the data is stored. It's not as easy of a task as you might think especially when you deal with legacy systems and without delving into details this is a massive undertaking for many companies. That's why I'm not surprised at the failures. Many companies have gone through this and know exactly the complexity we are talking about and this doesn't even address all the hardware size upgrades that are necessary with this large of an audience.
What I'd suggest is rather than start from scratch I'd buy the best state exchange software that is running and update it if possible into the federal system. It might save a whole lot of trouble.
Having said the above no one dislikes Obamacare more than I do and I think the whole mess should be repealed. It's simply a bad law and implemented under a hyper socialist regime mentality which will become an epic fail no matter how good the software. Health insurance can't be paid for when you can't find a good paying job in the Obama economy and when you are lucky enough to have a job the inflationary Fed is killing your paycheck.
Obama remains disaster just like his flagship legislation ...
It is the stupid decision to integrate the back-end to the front end UI that breaks shit like this. Loosely coupled message driven system is the way to go but the .gov monkeys refuse to get it.
http://www.examiner.com/article/nbc-50-to-75-percent-of-americans-will-l...
Today, Lisa Myers and Hannah Rappleye of NBC reported that as many as 80 percent of Americans who purchase health insurance will be receiving cancellation letters, despite President Obama's numerous assurances that people who like their health insurance would be able to keep it.
Additionally, the authors surprisingly assert that since at least 2010,
The surprise is not that President Obama made the false assertion that Americans can keep their health insurance as recently as 2012; the truly shocking thing is that NBC is reporting an article critical of President Obama.
No! He's a fucking liar?
Ding ding ding!!!
I saw just a bit of Chris Mathews (all I can handle) talking about why we still have unanswered questions on Benghazi. I almost could not believe what I was hearing. It appears the Democrats might be getting ready to abandon Zero in order to save their ideology. Keyword might.
No sacrifice is too large for the ideological agenda! The thing is, those supporters destroyed in it's wake will support them until death. Kind of like radical Muslims that see dying for Allah as the best! This is what we are up against. Logic and even complete rejection will not sway them. Death and taxes....
I think the Dems might be realizing they went a little overboard during the shutdown by demanding that freely elected Representatives should side with the elected President no matter what their constituents voted for.
Three weeks ago, the reviled Ted Cruz was handing Obama the delay he needed on a silver platter. Now, he may need to unilaterally stand down on the individual mandate just as he did the employer mandate.
Extremism is a label reserved only for those who resist the Agenda. The constitution and the rule of law are both extreme in relation to the Agenda as we all know, and as we also know, we don't negotiate or compromise with extremists.
40 to 67%!
NBC and the rest of TV, Hoolywood and the media have been protecting him forever.
IF Americans would wake up and shut all that shit off and unplug it all then we might have a chance.
Damn....as a R&D lab manager I've been billing wrong all these years. F#ck me.....
Where is " nonessential" statist apologist Kunt-Believe It? We could all use some comedy around here. It must be his day off.
Speaking of pork and Obamacare I may have written on this in the past but surprise surprise hidden programs to bail out businesses and unions of pension costs and push them onto taxpayer's backs was built into the Unaffordable for everyone except who paid off the right people Care Act.
http://dcclothesline.com/2013/10/27/obamacares-hidden-pork-untold-billio...
Little was ever reported on some indefensible sections in the health care law. Remember, no Republican voted for this monstrosity. A few media organizations, Fox, Newsweek and a few financial/insurance websites, exposed this: Section 1102 Reinsurance for Early Retirees, more commonly known as ERRP.
I condensed the section to isolate specific terms and to show proof of appropriated funding totaling $5 Billion dollars:
...
The $5 billion program (bailout) provided “financial assistance” for “employers” – businesses, unions, state and local governments and a few nonprofit organizations that offer health care benefits to their employees. Money for this program was supposed to be a “bridge” for businesses and individuals until all the “tax credits” and subsidies went into effect once competitive insurance markets became available once the law was fully implemented. The benefits referred to in the law cover “early retirees,” their spouses and dependents as part of their union and some non-union negotiated “benefits” packages, which basically shifted the cost of these benefits for government and other union employees onto taxpayers.
Unknown to many of our representatives, the Democrats were not only passing a new healthcare law, they were also “appropriating” money to fund this law as well as allocating funding for “grants” to “reward/repay all those financial supporters” and there continues to be preferential treatment given to large corporations and unions in the form of waivers and exemptions since the law passed – crony capitalism at its finest. Remember the Senate introduced their version via a questionable “amendment” process. Troubling, since all bills raising “revenue” “shall originate in the House.” Like other such deals that this administration has been involved in, “big name” companies, unions and organizations receive the bulk of any money appropriated in legislation – indefensible, dishonest, and reprehensible.
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A complete list of all the recipients can be found at www.gao.gov and www.errp.gov. A partial list is posted at the end. Encouraging people and businesses to apply for all this free money wasn’t exactly difficult, so it’s not surprising that Obama’s Health and Human Services is boasting that it “has received applications from more than 50 percent of Fortune 500 companies, all major unions, and government entities in all 50 States and the District of Columbia.” Some interesting facts:
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That is just a week of healthcare spending. Too litle to matter. Early retirees and union plans are screwed. This is just to pretend to do something.
Did I miss something? Wasn't Obamacare going to be free for everyone? They already have the Social Security system in place. Why are we not using that as being signed up?
Because Keith Alexander needs more data.
Black Nero too much of a compliment.
Obama-splat
Behold the elegance! The electronic equivalent of Pols screwing in a lightbulb. Sorry for offending Pols.
CGI Federal figured they would need to pack as much code as possible. After all they were awarded $678,000,000, which is about a dollar for every line they created.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/cgi-federal-scrutiny-obama-fundraising/2013/10/27/id/533310
The Obamacare website is an even bigger piece of crap than the legislation that spawned it. However, as a coder I find the count of "lines of code" to be highly suspect. This is a line of code:
}
Or this:
// HACK: Let's hardcode some magic numbers here!
Counting the "lines of code" doesn't mean anything, and comparing to other applications is especially meaningless.
I agree whole heartedly.
Function points are what truly count in software metrics but obviously, this program is even beneath function point one (1). It does serve as an example of EPPM- extremely piss-poor management.
Software metrics are bullshit for measuring developer productivity. The whole concept is mistaken. Any decent development manager can quickly tell which developer can produce functionality and which can't and it has nothing to do with any of the metrics that useless consultants come up with as a programmer productivity metric.
Do they count comments? Poor coders write opaque code and then write 20 times as many lines of comments as they write in code. When it's all said and done you (you being a maintenance programmer) are screwed. The comments fail to describe correctly and the code itself is unreadable.
Let’s be fair, 99% of that code is necessary to translate Ebonics, Spanglish, and White Trash Redneck dialects into legal English on the application form.
Whatchu making fun of nice traler park citisens for punk? Baby needs new shooz...after I gets me some beer.
Yes the artificial intelligence part was %99.9 of the the job. The rest was hacked from McDonalds drive through menu software.
Wut Fur?
Wushu tawkin bout nigga?
Homebre! Mi Sinorita just had another bebe. We aint pay nufffin Essay.
He should get a refund.
The American people should get a refund.
Declare war on Canada for bad software.
all of these website problems are the most encouraging thing I've heard yet about obamacare.
it's great to know the satanic playbook has come up against a major snag, just like the hated gun control legislation. this whole kill-the-world-economy-and-turn-everyone-against-one-another-so-we-can-offer-a-solution-for-one-form-of-money-government-and-religion thing will just have to get pushed back a little more. O's handlers are sweating bullets. the dragon king does not accept excuses.
Well to be fair the majority of that code is just the words LOL! copied and pasted a few hundred million times.
Gosh!!! It's negative nancys like you who caused Obamacare to fail because you didn't believe hard enough that this would work!!!
Dear God, deliver us from Obamacare. Do it for the children.
I was against Obamacare from the beginning, but not for the same reason as most of you. I believed that it was public option or bust, like Norway has. However I've recently come to the conclusion that our gubbermint is so fucked up and dysfunctional that a public option would be even more of a clusterfuck than what we have today. Wow.
if an american living in america renounces their citizenship and continues to live in america do they become an illegal alien?
if so, they are exempt from this law.
The cat is right. It's not possible to be that big. Just lawyers coming up with a number by adding up the code in the server O.S., the code in the D.B. engine, the code in the Web Server engine, etc.
This would be simpler.
!#/usr/bin/python
import sys, os, os.path, time, string
ts = datetime.datetime.now()
tbills-sell = WallStreetFRB-Ponzi(ts)
while tbills-sell:
bftxpyr = raw_input("Enter dollars to be deducted from checking account: ")
emptyAccount = raw_input("Enter your bank account number: ")
print "%s deducted from your account. Thanks for paying." % bftxpyr
print "You may be covered."
ts = datetime.datetime.now()
tbills-sell = WallStreetFRB-Ponzi(ts)
print "The economy just collapsed. Have a great day!"
sys.exit(0)
bleh python. perfer ruby or even perl. ever try to copy paste a python script?
When I first looked at python and saw it did it's "structuring" by indentation I knew it was dead on arrival. Nobody else seemed to mind. I'm glad to hear someone else "got it" and "avoided it"! Stupidity is so pervasive.
Clearly, it will cost a couple of billion $ to fix that code. How can it NOT cost that much or MOAR?
Cost doesn't matter when you have unlimited liquidity at your disposal.
There is always a cost and the bill always comes due.
Except when the bill comes due everyone knows the central banks get up to go to the bathroom and we get the bill.
It's somewhat comforting to see that, as always, political reliability is more important than competence to all commie bastards. Because of this inescapable condition they will never be able to make anything work correctly if have to build it themselves.
Of course, they can take things that do work reasonably well like the US economy, the military and the health care system and break them with the help of of the media. They are not however capable of building a new complex working system where there was nothing before.
How to make a couple million to party on.
"I want 4 million to fix it. Half now to pay for overhead. And half when it is fixed."
"I want it fixed by the end of NOVEMBER; got that? When will you have it fixed?"
"By the end of NOVEMBER. Piece of cake."
Now I have a couple million, party on. Everyone knows the end of November is unrealistic.
BTW: I programed in 'C' in OS/2 and some of my code is still running in various casinos around the country and still drawing royalties (but not for me).
Just to repeat myself, when all the dust settles we shall discover that this entire ObananaCare deal was a another plot to enrich the insurance industry....they'll be able to dump all their high risk clients with inpunity and raise the rates on all the new sheep being driven into the killing box by federal mandate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o-Flb5CBOo#t=1147
John McAfee: Obamacare Unfixable, Scrap it!
Some insights about the Obamacare computer program from somebody who clearly knows a lot about those things. HOWEVER, this is not merely due to incompetence. This is part of an overall deliberate plan, which is way too evil for most people to believe is possible. But nevertheless, the more one knows, the worse it gets. All branches of the government of the USA have become almost totally bankster puppets. Their bigger agenda is to destroy the American Democratic Republic. They are succeeding. Obamacare is another significant step towards deliberately screwing things up so badly that they can not be fixed, which is why a computer program would be constructed in a way that is superficially appearing as completely crazy incompetence, but is not an accident, but rather, an aspect of an overall agenda.
This could backfire on them. Go see your health care provider (note I didn't use the term doctor) and give him or her some fiat or a couple of chickens from the yard as they did a hundred years ago. I am old enough to actually remember as a kid our doctor making house calsl when we were sick.
Obama is sounding more and more like Sergeant Schultz from Hogan's heroes -"I know nothing, nothing".
Can you imagine what sort of fiascos await us when we try to see a doctor through Obamacare. Or fill a prescription. Better hope we don't get sick.
Another ZHer has already covered that issue. It's cheaper to fly round trip business class to Thailand and get treatment there. Better treatment too.
It's Romney's fault!
CGI linked to Jarrett, Axelrod, Summers, and Ontario politicians:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/58854
Don't forget Moochelle.
I don't understand the "car software" 100 million lines of code. Is this like a Mercedes or Lexus? How could it have more code than a F-35 fighter or advanced weapon system?
Probably very poor programming. They'd just buy entire modules and stack 'em up year after year. Old functionality still somewhere in there, while new keeps layering on top of it. Extreme redundancy... but it works fine so who cares?
If its working don't start looking inside all the black boxes to streamline the thing, you might get a fright. Just keep stacking it until it collapses, hopefully not on your watch. Sort of like how the government runs.
"Sorry, sir, the system is down again today. Here are some aspirin."
Take 2 asprin and try to connect in the morning."
Hello Doctor, I feel I'm coming down with a bug.
<Voice-Recognition System>... Press #1 if you're a HUMAN, #2 if you're an OBAMACARE SERVER, #3 For OTHER...
BREAKING!!!
In a desperate bid to fix the Heathcare Fiasco.....
The Administration takes up Nancy Pelosi's suggestion: to have a contingent of Navy Seals - outfitted in protective space suits - go in and start spraying all ObamaCare Servers with 8-gallon backpack-mounted drums of industrial-strength BUG B GON...
Developing...
A trip down memory lane:
Obama in 2009: Americans can keep their existing healthcare plan
There's no bloatware like goobermint bloatware
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