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Americans 34 Times More Interested In Buying Guns Than Obamacare
It would appear that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) website - required when purchasing a gun or explosive - is capable of handling large volumes of users...
(h/t @Not_Jim_Cramer)
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She qualified for ~$100 subsidy, even if you factor that in her new plan is still way cheaper and provides more coverage...
Nice try though...
Her experience means exactly one thing: she had REALLY lousy insurance before.
The near-universal experience is that taxpayers are getting the shaft - losing policies, higher premiums and deductibles, losing access to doctors. Why don't taxpayers count? Does this nation exist to better service the wants and needs of the ever-increasing 'poor'?
It's all winding down to end in a whimper. Incredibly, they're going to have to provoke people a lot more before we'll see a bang.
Nope, a small fraction are getting some rude surprises but I have heard the average premimum compated to previous private plans is down 40% in NYS. Forbes backs me on that
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/11/04/49-state-analysis-obamacare-to-increase-individual-market-premiums-by-avg-of-41-subsidies-flow-to-elderly/
Given that the average national premium is somehting like $328 for the middle of the road plan, it should tell you who was getting the shaft if her plan went down as much as it did...
Don't believe everything you hear, but I guess it is a complete shitshow in some states...
I understand you like chubby, unemployed girls? Thats your choice then...
Is this supposed to pass as some kind of witty repartee?
I understand you like sucking cocks of guys wearing lederhosen based on your avatar...
You are way out of your league...
My partner signed up here in NY, given that her premium went down $340 a month to ~$400 even after choosing a far superior to what she had Platinum plan...
You can buy quite a few bricks for that...
You need to send that to Oboomba, I am sure your PARTNER would be on Nat'l TV this evening.
Why, according to Forbes, you know that left wing rag, NYS premiums are down 40% on average... Nothing special...
http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2013/what-will-obamacare-cost-you-map.html
My partner signed up here in NY, given that her premium went down $340 a month to ~$400 even after choosing a far superior to what she had Platinum plan...
You can buy quite a few bricks for that...
Care to share the deductible for your partners PLAT PLAN?, anlong with the premium?.Of course when you said NY, that basically sealed the deal,can't get much more Marxist than NY, and Kali.Also she work for a special company?.
As for buying quite a few Bricks for that savings, try MAYBE 5-8 Bricks, IF you can find them.
Deductible is actually less than I had thought compared her previous plan (she goofed when she told me) hell, here is the plan
http://www.emblemhealth.com/Health-Care-Reform-For-New-York/Healthcare-Insurance-Plans-Available/Select-Care-Platinum.aspx#phcontent_0_ctl00_plan_description
$530 a month - $100 tax credit
She was paying $740 a month for an inferior plan....
This is a purely private plan, she works partime for a small business which is not required to offer anything...
LOL! ZH has hipsters posting here.
And based on what you have to offer, more than a few bigoted idiots as well...
That's the best idea I've seen yet here!
i bought a s&w bodyguard in .380 yesterday and 4,000 rounds to go with it. bang.
+ 9 (mm)
heh, a little shorter than 9mm proper
i can use my gun as a cane,
a bottle opener,
method for rapid de-sanguination
the list goes on and on
If I only had 34 arms...
...I could masterbate and it would be like being with a different person every day of the month.
Just sit on your arm until your hand falls asleep then it always feels like a different person.
So I hear.
The ultimate rejection is when your jerking off and your hand falls asleep.
Amazing what you can get done when you don't have to pander to Insurance companies...
Do you really believe this debacle was an accident? I don't believe for a minute that an entity with unlimited resources can screw up a web site this bad. Especially when you consider that this is the administration's landmark achievement.
Yes. They had more time than it took to win WWII and this is what they rolled out? Not a mistake, another manufactured crisis to get the drums beating for Single Payer...a partial takeover of healthcare is not enough for them...only 100% control will suffice.
And then it will be onto the next target for centralized control.
Tyranny, its what's for breakfast, lunch and dinner in the New Amerika!
Love it or fight it!
Yawn....
Please describe how this is a take over of the health care industry, if anything it is yet another corporate handout...
So I guess being the slave of the insurance companies, as mandated under Obama(Don't)Care, is preferable to merely pandering to them?
Admit it Flakmeister: you agree with, and like, the mandates of Obama(Don't)Care, don't you?
I have dealt with the Health Care industry in 4 different countries including single payer and fully private systems.
Obamacare is like sticking your cock in half way... You have to decide what you really want...
The only thing that I like about the ACA is that I can no longer get screwed for a pre-existing condition. Ever have your kid denied insurance or have your claims rejected because of a minor pre-existing condition?
As far as my mate goes with her experience to-date with the ACA, the web site was shitty but she is very pleased with the plan she got out of it...
You are in Alaska, I hope you don't play the game that Sarah Palin's family did when they used to drive to Canada to get free heath care, do you?
Here LMGTFY
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sarah+palin+health+care+canada
Hell, in the process I came across this nugget from today:
http://www.codewit.com/north-america/13898-sarah-palin-i-ll-go-to-canada-for-health-care
I'd say that her understanding of the situation is on par with many of the posters here....
Wrong.
Like most liberals (and I will here make one of my very rare political left-right distinctions), you evidently only see the superficial facade rather than the underlying reality.
The (fucked-up, government-muddled) system we had BEFORE Obama(Don't)Care WAS the "cock halfway in". What we have now, under Obama(Don't)Care, is the cock essentially rammed home while we're being told that it is still only halfway in.
Well... you seem to have missed my metaphor... Tant pis
Either you are for health insurance industry for profit or you aren't (note I said insurance, not care)...
I see that there was No comment on the intellectual bankruptcy and hypocrisy of our dear Sarah...
Sorry, I wasn't aware that my response to your implicit defenses of Obama(Don't)Care included an obligatory (if irrelevant and off-topic) comment on Sarah Palin. But just for the record, the intellectual bankruptcy and hypocrisy of our dear Sarah speaks for itself.
I am ashamed to say that I actually voted for her for governor, once --- but you are probably not familiar with her wildly arrogant, utterly clueless and even more corrupt gubernatorial predecessor, Frank Murkowski. I still tell friends, and mean it too, that if I ever see that bastard on the street, I am going to punch him in the face.
My reference to Sarah was appropriate... Lots of people here saying shit that is just wrong... You can rip Ocare many differnent ways and be consistent but you ain't allowed to make shit up...
Murkowski didn;t have plausible deniability like Sarah, i.e. being so obviously stupid that she might not even realize she was corrupt...
Listen up chief - Healthcare as the version that is bandying about on the blogosphere's is about..... money and more importantly - CONTROL*! Yeah, that is right, this law was about removing ANY impediments by the Insurance Industry and the government about what YOU would have access to in regards to seeing a medical practitioner.
Here is how it is going to go down, when you go to see some Doctor, it isn't going to be some government goon who is going to turn you away, it is going to be the ADMIN person sitting behind the desk that will be saying this to you. Your first instinct will be that it is the Doctors and then maybe it you'll think that it is the insurance brokers who are to blame (partially correct) but the illusion will be complete that you will not even think that it is the government that is the problem when in actuality that they ARE THE PROBLEM, the same folks that gave you the EPA, NSA, IRS, etc... will be the same folks that will be bringing a BRIGHT, SHINY and NEW SWAT team that belongs to the Obamacare healthcare to deal with the folks who are circumventing the system. DO YOU WANNA BET???
* - Similar to how Gun Control isn't about Guns!!
You clearly have no fucking idea what you are talking about...
Sarah is silly and ignorant BUT she's got guts and guts is enough in my book.
My thoughts are that if she was elected, she would have sent a bunch of B-52's and Arclight'ed those motherFU$#@! that attacked our consulate in Benghazi.
Unlike the used-up nasty beat up battle-ax that just threw-up her hands and said - "what does it matter". What a fu43ing c7nt!
If that is what you would truly do, then it is is very good thing that you have nothing to do with implementing our Foreign policy...
You are in Alaska, I hope you don't play the game that Sarah Palin's family did when they used to drive to Canada to get free heath care, do you?
Why not?, if you pay for your own get the best deal possible.TONS of folks go to Canada and Mexico to get scrips filled for long term needs.Americans PAY forthe R&D costs for the world, and we have to pay thru the assfor drugs that are 20% of the cost in Canada, and Mexico as here.
Scrips are one thing... going to the clinic for primary care is another...
Unless you are endorsing moochers, are you?
Scrips are one thing... going to the clinic for primary care is another...
Unless you are endorsing moochers, are you?
Nope, Unless they hold dual citizenship, I am sure they are paying albeit at a reduced rate from what US primary care providers charge.No WAY Canada is allowing FREE care to non citizens, ONLY THE US GIVERMINT is doing somnething that stupid.
Those cross border shoppers? They pay cash/credit card at the pharmacy... no insurance, no bull shit copay....
Just like a free fuckin market..
Get over it, your health care system is a fucking shambling disaster....
Say HELLO to my lttle friend.....
And those 49 100 supposed enrollements are BS since they count the ``just in cart not paid for`` clients.
Yeah. Hospital ER's track those who came in and left (called Left/Not Seen)...ObamaCare counts those who buy and don't buy as "enrolled".
And we wonder (not all of us, some...) why government is so fucked up?!
FUBAR!
Wow, so many intelligent choices for the American public ...
Makes sense. After all, you could force a doctor at gunpoint to treat one of your loved ones (who also could force the doctor to treat you). With an insurance bill that won't be doable ...
@Bearwagon
an excellent summarization of Obamacare in action.
Checks in Massachusetts increased nearly 1000% from 1999 to 2013. Are they waking up?
No. Why? Three words, Senator Elisabeth Warren.
Elected over an hispanic army veteran.
NOPE. No waking up in masshole they elected a fake Indain and a check bouncer. And they allowed there houses to be searched without a search warrant. I could go on but who cares anymore.
//I'm at least 17 trillion times more interested in buying guns and ammo than Bro-Ho-surance.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
that reminds me...I need to buy a bunch more ammo tonight.
FUCK YOU, OBAMA-CARE!!!
Suddenly it becomes clear. If the populace wants it, make it illegal. If the populace does not want it, force them to buy it at an elevated price.
I think there is a good reason for this. If you were to get sick, it is probably a lot better to turn to a gun than it is to Obamacare
Funny, not mentioned are the near 500k who have been added to the medicaid rolls since Obamacare opened. Actually what happens is that you log on, put in your info, and if you're under poverty line, they give you a statement similar to "You are eligible for coverage under your state's medicaid program."
So, while we decry the website and enroll of 49k people, tack another 500k to that number now on medicaid, or, more accurately, referred to medicaid. Which of course is broke and well, where's the money going to come from, and well, we can always print more...well, and the circle completes itself.
This is a success beyond the progressives wildest dreams. Crash the system
Edit: oh, yeah, Fuck you Bernanke, and you too, Obuttboy.
So I was filling out a form and it asked: Are you under the poverty line?
I wrote in: At this rate, YES!
Im going to buy some scuba gear. It seems like I'll be able to find plenty of guns and gold at the bottom of any lake in the country...
Guns and ammo seems like good insurance to me.
See how well showing criminals your Obamacare card will deter them.
People probably want to get their guns first so that they can defend their 'right' to obamacare.... <wink, wink>
We will eventually need the guns to prtotect ourselves from the EBT crowd who want Obamacare...so a gun seems a better invetment than the Obamacare.
Absolutely impeccable logic....
Did you figure this out all by yourself?
Given you are likely in a Red State and fraction of people on EBT tends to be highest in Red states, you very well might be on to something...
I'm actually stunned to just find that drudgereport actually linked this story directly to zerohedge. i submit so many zh stories to drudge to link to and they never do. this one is a rare time that they finally picked something up directly. should get tons more hits and new viewer to zh now.
Keep waking people up!
Meanwhile...
http://offgridsurvival.com/dhs-tracking-grid/
Batman Vs Superman Vs The Fed Vs ObamaCare
http://youtu.be/10z1KgZhpeg