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The October 2012 Pre-Election Jobs Report Was Faked
On Friday October 5, 2012, the BLS released what was arguably the most important report of Obama's first term: the final jobs number, and unemployment rate before the November 2012 presidential election. As so many predicted, it "plunged" from 8.1% to 7.8% allowing the president to conduct countless teleprompted speeches praising the success of his economic recovery. It also served as the basis for the infamous Jack Welch tweet: "Unbelievable jobs numbers..these Chicago guys will do anything..can't debate so change numbers" and prompted the pro-Obama media to quickly brand all those who questioned it as conspiracy theorists. The Atlantic did perhaps the most exemplary job in its task to discredit the "random anonymous cranks" who challenged the bullshit spewed by the administration's manipulative economic data reporting apparatus. From The Atlantic's Unemployment Plummets To 7.8%.
The unemployment rate plunged to 7.8 percent in September, its lowest level since Barack Obama took office in 2009. In addition, the Bureau of Labor Statistics made big revisions to data from previous months, showing huge increases in the number of jobs being created over the last three months. Total employment from the "household survey" also showed an increase of 873,000 jobs last month, the biggest one-month jump since June of 1983.
Not only has the unemployment rate gone down, but the report also undercut one of the key criticisms of previous drops in the number—that it was because the "participation rate" went down. That rate has actually gone back up, which means unemployment is down because people are actually getting work, not because they've stopped looking. Public sector jobs also went up, as did the average number of hours worked per week.
This report looks so good for President Obama that conspiracy theorists are already alleging that the fix is in. And not just random anonymous cranks, but supposedly serious business people, like former General Electric CEO Jack Welch.
Unbelievable jobs numbers..these Chicago guys will do anything..can't debate so change numbers
— Jack Welch (@jack_welch) October 5, 2012
No, there's nothing at all curious about the last jobs report diving to 7.8% unemployment before the election.
— Keith Urbahn (@keithurbahn) October 5, 2012
Total data manipulation. Such a farce
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) October 5, 2012
Rick Santelli of CNBC, noting that the rate has dropped below the magical number of 8 percent, said, "You can let America decide how they got there." When one side is convinced that something smells rotten, you know it's good news for the other guy.
As we noted his comment at the time...
"the current trend of these [jobs] numbers is so different from the current trend of any other numbers. If you were looking for conspiracies (and I'm not), you only need to change a certain number."
Of course, who cares if the "conspiracy theories" were substantiated by actual data. Such as the following from the same day:
An Odd Arima-X-12 Statistical Aberration?
Here's a peculiar statistical aberration:
- Household Survey people employed: +873,000 (source)
- Part-time jobs for economic reasons: +582,000 (source)
-> 582,000 divided by 873,000 = 0.666666666666*
Aka: precisely two thirds. Whatever are the odds... Goalseeking much Arima-X-12?
Or this also from the same day:
Reason For Today's Unemployment Rate Plunge: Part-Time Jobs For Economic Reasons Surge Most Since QE1 Announcement
We already noted the absolutely stunning surge in reported Household Survey jobs which "added" 873,000 jobs, or the most since 2003 and the second most in the past decade, which was just a little bit off the Household Survey used in the monthly NFP jobs changes, which came at 114,000, or about 8 times less. But what was the reason for this epic jump in Household survey jobs? Simple, and those who have read our series on America's transition to a part-time worker society know the answer. The reason is that the number of part-time people employed for economic reasons soared by 582,000 to 8,613,000, the most since October 2011, and the largest one month jump since February 2009, when "restoring" confidence in the economy was all the rage... and just before the Fed announced the full blown QE1 in March of 2009. Odd symmetry.
So putting it all together, what does this mean for the true state of the US economy? Recall back in September one of our Charts of the Day was the number of Unemployed and Underemployed for the month of August, which was 25.8 million. Readers may be surprised to learn that when putting it all together, in September this number increased to 26.2 million.
Or this also from the same day:
The Strangest Number In Today's Jobs Number
While we already presented the explanation for the dramatic drop in today's unemployment report (almost entirely driven by the surge in part-time jobs for economic reasons, hardly a thing to be proud of as more and more full time jobs, especially those on Wall Street, are a thing of the past, while the transition to a part-time worker society has been documented extensively in the past here), there is another number that is by far the most perplexing in today's NFP dataset: that showing the employment of workers in the 20-24 year age category (both seasonally adjusted and unadjusted). See if you can spot the outlier in the chart below.
And many more other such reports posted on this site on the same day, alleging fabrication which as it turns out courtesy of the just released stunning disclosure by the Post, were absolutely spot on since the number was, you guessed it, manipulated.
The Post's John Crudele reveals the details on a data manipulation scandal, which we exposed back in October 2012, but this time with the actual "dirty details" that has the potential to be so big, Obama will need to start another YouTube-fabricated, false flag war just to distract from this latest scandal.
From The Post's "Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report"
In the home stretch of the 2012 presidential campaign, from August to September, the unemployment rate fell sharply — raising eyebrows from Wall Street to Washington.
The decline — from 8.1 percent in August to 7.8 percent in September — might not have been all it seemed. The numbers, according to a reliable source, were manipulated.
And the Census Bureau, which does the unemployment survey, knew it.
Just two years before the presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report, which is one of the most closely watched measures of the economy.
And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond that one employee — that it escalated at the time President Obama was seeking reelection in 2012 and continues today.
“He’s not the only one,” said the source, who asked to remain anonymous for now but is willing to talk with the Labor Department and Congress if asked.
The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.
Ironically, it was Labor’s demanding standards that left the door open to manipulation.
Labor requires Census to achieve a 90 percent success rate on its interviews — meaning it needed to reach 9 out of 10 households targeted and report back on their jobs status.
Census currently has six regions from which surveys are conducted. The New York and Philadelphia regions, I’m told, had been coming up short of the 90 percent.
Philadelphia filled the gap with fake interviews.
“It was a phone conversation — I forget the exact words — but it was, ‘Go ahead and fabricate it’ to make it what it was,” Buckmon told me.
Census, under contract from the Labor Department, conducts the household survey used to tabulate the unemployment rate.
Interviews with some 60,000 household go into each month’s jobless number, which currently stands at 7.3 percent. Since this is considered a scientific poll, each one of the households interviewed represents 5,000 homes in the US.
Buckmon, it turns out, was a very ambitious employee. He conducted three times as many household interviews as his peers, my source said.
By making up survey results — and, essentially, creating people out of thin air and giving them jobs — Buckmon’s actions could have lowered the jobless rate.
Buckmon said he filled out surveys for people he couldn’t reach by phone or who didn’t answer their doors.
But, Buckmon says, he was never told how to answer the questions about whether these nonexistent people were employed or not, looking for work, or have given up.
But people who know how the survey works say that simply by creating people and filling out surveys in their name would boost the number of folks reported as employed.
Census never publicly disclosed the falsification. Nor did it inform Labor that its data was tainted.
“Yes, absolutely they should have told us,” said a Labor spokesman. “It would be normal procedure to notify us if there is a problem with data collection.”
* * *
During the 2010 Census report — an enormous and costly survey of the entire country that goes on for a full year — I suspected (and wrote in a number of columns) that Census was inexplicably hiring and firing temporary workers.
I suspected that this turnover of employees was being done purposely to boost the number of new jobs being report each month. (The Labor Department does not use the Census Bureau for its other monthly survey of new jobs — commonly referred to as the Establishment Survey.)
Last week I offered to give all the information I have, including names, dates and charges to Labor’s inspector general.
I’m waiting to hear back from Labor.
I hope the next stop will be Congress, since manipulation of data like this not only gives voters the wrong impression of the economy but also leads lawmakers, the Federal Reserve and companies to make uninformed decisions.
Don't hold your breath: the reason is that this particular instance manipulation is merely the tip of the iceberg - since virtually all data out of the BLS is manipulated and fabricated, as we report each and every month, the last thing the legislative and certainly the executive want is to offer the general public a glimpse of just how deep the rabbit hole goes. Because it goes very, very deep.
One can only hope this forces at least some more people to wake up about the sad farce this once great nation has devolved to in its quest to destroy the middle class.
The only real good news, as noted above, is that yet another conspiracy theory is forever cast into the void, and going forward the only thing the random, but manipulated, number generator out of the Bureau Of Lies And Subterfuge will be good for, is to prod the just as pathetic HFT algos into a buying frenzy when month after month the economy is painted with rosy brushes, even as millions forever drop out of the labor force, never to return.
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It's the Truman Show.
Nothing to see here...Obama in the White House,Yellen as Fed Chief ,Geithner Private Equity "Guru", Maria Bartiroma "a Fox"..... Next up, Barney Frank as Pope.
Maria may have been a fox at one time but the symbiont thing is wearing her out fast.
Meaningless, meaningless! Thus sayeth the Teacher, all is utterly meaningless...
Meh.....so team Obama stretched the truth a little. It's for the good of the nation. At least they have been forthcoming about everything else. I for one am proud the be living under the most transparent regime in the history of the nation.
I'm learning to love big brother.
How I learned to stop worrying and love the Kenyan Clown.
I'm sure it was news to him too. He probably found out about it just like we did.
Tyler's feed...
Yep, Doc. After all, Obama is just the hapless puppet of the oligarchs and its really not his fault at all.
This administration uses the IRS as a political hitman. Uses the NSA as a privacy silencer. Intentionally deceives the public on Benghazi. Can't build a functional website with a half billion dollar budget. Aides terror organizations in multiple countries. Runs guns across our borders.
Fudging some numbers is just not even a blip on the radar.
"Runs guns across our borders."
Let's be honest here, that's not completely correct. Now, saying "runs guns across our borders to Mexican drug cartels and Al Queda in Syria while killing diplomatic witnesses" that's a lot closer to correct.
Yesterday's racist teathuglican birther conspiracy theory is today's front page news story and tomorrow's congressional investigation.
The Bureau of Lying STATISTicians
The Bureau of Big Black Lies.
B...Bullish?
I'm sure that Alan Shalom Yellin would say yes, definitely! If the markets need a bigger punch bowl we can supply it, right up until the market gets alcohol poisoning. At that point, I not sure that even going to Detox can save it. But you'll be able to say it was a helluva party if you're able to remember anything from it! Just don't check to see if your wallet is still intact, and everything will be a-okay.
Oh Oh...
http://minutemennews.com/2013/11/epa-shuts-lead-refiners-administrations-back-door-disarm-people/
There is always silver. Prices such as they are its not as crazy as it sounds. And there is something fitting about it.
I guess you'll just have to visit the nuclear power plants and offer 'em a good deal to remove their depleted uranium for them ;)
Don't forget that while you're looking for bullets you're not trying to figure out how to deal with drones, amongst other things.
Marxist con man. Period.
My trust in the government has now been slightly dented.
I am now dented from slightly trusting the Government.
... but not to worry because you won't notice the new ding in amongst all the other dents?
I trust the government more than ever. The bumper sticker on my car says so. I drop my daughter off at middle school every day, and the sticker serves as a lesson in sarcasm.
Every day I like to remind the Obamabots: go look at the video of Obama in Grant Park after winning in 2008. Look at the adulation of hundreds of thousands of people. Reminds me of the Nuremberg Rallies.
My next bumper sticker:
Stupid people - ruining great societies since 10,000 B.C.
I thought it was interesting when Obomber talked on the Navigators - he said sumtim like "I remember filling out those federal forms." For Foresign student aid?
And the fact Bartiromo is going to Faux Business leads on Drudge /sigh
And still roughly a 40% approval rating despite all of this.
Video of Obama kicking puppies, shoving little old ladies down the stairs, slapping little old men, taking away candy from babies, what would it take to drop him down into the low 30%?
Asking for a friend...
Turning off food stamps. And killing NPR. That's his two groups.
Possibly -- but only if the polling firm doesn't have any ex-BLS employees working there.
The 1%ers who are benefiting from rising asset prices as well as corporate welfare, and the people living in poverty with their Obama phone. Everybody else has tuned the asshole out. It's all good because in three years TPTB will give us a new asshole to hate.
Kinda like 1984, except instead of holding hate sessions for Goldstein, we hold 'em for Big Brother.
I like what they did with it, pretty clever actually.
Who do we have to love though? Kim Kardashian I guess.
I can never keep track of this shit, I'm going to drink a bottle of whisky or rat poison or something.
Whenever there's an Obamacare article on Yahoo, literally 99% of the comments are hatin' on Obama..
The other 1% are just trolls stirring shit up....
This is how countries become bad bets for investment + doing business: rule of law is eroded, institutions become corrupt and unreliable, and numbers can't be trusted.
Jack Welch is the scum of the earth.......
Anything he says has only his interests at heart.
My point has nothing to do with any bit of this article other than hard to mine anything of value out of anything this scum has to say.
Sigma six six six
Welch is satan, so he knows evil when it farts in his general direction. Thats why he said he thought he smelled an Obama.
"Hey did somebody just ripoff a fresh green Obama, or is da sewer backin up again?
Obama, (n) - a distasteful stench that obliterates all reason.
Obama (v) the act of creating a distasteful stench. "Did somebody obama in here?"
Also sometimes the act of lying about who made the stench.
I din't make no Obama, it was the dog.
Thats why Obama's first official act as POTus was to buy a fuckin dog.
Why do you say this about Mr. Welch? I wish to understand your point of view.
Neutron Jack
ADP is the only number worthy to draw conclusions.
Certainly anyone paying attention knows unemployment, inflation, housing, GDP - is complete bullshit as every level down to most mundane in government has been corrupted by this assclown.
The worst part about this story isn't that the manipulation was painfully obvious at the time, but rather that 51% of this country had no problem with it. In fact, I'd dare say they would have been fine with it.
Its why I no longer have any faith in the idea that democracy leads to the "right" result. Its a handy public pursuasion device that allows 51% of the population to hold a gun to the heads of the 49%.........all........day.......long. The Republic (Constitution), was a check on this, but, I see now that nothing is indelible or permanent. The Constitution was (still is to me) an almost airtight bullshit checker, but somehow, Congress allowed the check to be legislated away by executive order, slowly and marginally watered down to where the Constitution is no longer relevant. Its an inconvenience now to the now permanent and now indelible free lunch social welfare maximizing bullshit put out by Harvard economists....all.....day......long.
And the thing I love about ZH and its many qualified and educated contributors, is that they make it really fucking easy to see the truth for anybody who wants it.
When only 50-60% of eligible voters show up to the poll, that number actually drops down to 25-30%..
Then start factoring in the all the ineligible voters (the ones who don't vote, anyway)
That number starts getting a little scary...
Every country on earth run by a black man ends up turning into a complete festering third world gangster ridden shit hole. Why am I not surprised by this news?
ditto Muslim-led countries
It seems that by and large their systems and approaches are anachronistic.
I'd puke but this administration has given me the dry heaves since 2008.
Well, we had it coming. It's our fault for believing. Like Hollywood Harvey Weinstein said, the country should be embarrassed not Barry. They had to lie. It's for our own good. Barry saved us from that horrible rich man Mit Romney. Besides, the county's so racist he had lie and cheat. Be proud that Barry was willing to go to such lengths for YOU.
He promised not to lie again and this time he means it. And in the near future when we're talking about murders instead of lying, just know he does it for YOU. He's really a good person.
There must be some mistake. Barry Soetoro has never lied to the American people.
Credo Mutwa | An actor walks upon the floodlit stage of life…
As long as they're not fudging inflation figures. That would be terrible.
Yep. If The Fed came out and said that inflation was nearly non-existent I'd be shocked I tell ya, shocked.
Penny candy anyone?
It would be even worse if they were lying about Healthscare!
only thing is this is being reported by the ny-post ... one of the most worthless pile of shit out there ...
Zero Hedge is also, and ZH is a gleaming beacon of truth and liberty.
Drudge is linking it.
Any N* such I* allegation G* is purely G* racist... just E* ask Obese Oprah. R*!!
Moron
"We aren't some banana republic" indeed......
BLS - bureau of lumps of shit
no that would be Bureau of Lying Shits
"And let's get our facts straight. You didn't create those job numbers. Government did."
Yep, Barry's right this time. /sarc
Arm the homeless
Are you also "Moorlock"?
no
Obama, the president of lies.
The lieing court jester.
What a clown.
Here's my take on the 2012 pre-election job numbers being faked:
Duh.
Edward Snowden for President.
So if the unemployment numbers are actually much worse, and the economy is far worse off than we thought, then that means I should go long in the market because the street will anticipate the Fed printing more money.
There used to be a time when that sentence would be laughed it because it wasn't believeable.
With all these body blows into Obama from all directions, one must ask 'why now'?
Big picture says this has a purpose.
Maybe. Or maybe he just can't escape the power of a vortex of his own making that has got him in it's grip.
Either way, there's that old saying, everything has a reason.
I look forward to the cavalcade of apologist HuffPo approved regurgitated and parroted liberal talking points to be bandied about on our state media.
Im gonna go out on a limb and guess that this surprises people?
Crazy thing is that it was the unnecessary lie. He was already home and dry. The problem is that propaganda becomes a way of life, the manipulation of the news media becomes an end in itself and the object of power.
In the UK, the Labour party in particular fell into this trap when in power. I have had friends on the left of politics defend lying as perfectly good political tactic, because they see that it's the only way to bring about a truly meritocratic state by stealth. One truly believed that once the public had tasted true socialism and the 'rich rulers' had been swept away, the lies would be understood as the route to our liberation. (They of course, failed to see that they were replacing one ruling clas with another, but that's another story)
Meanwhile, in the UK we will soon need to return to tuburculosis innoculations, the cost of living is off the scale, politicians in the North are warning of potential riots between groups of immigrants and as an Island nation we couldn't even defend the Isle of Wight (let alone the bloody Falklands). And still, Labour is home and dry for the 2015 election.
They don't even need to lie any more - the big lie, in true Gramasci fashion, is now hard wired into the population. "There are enough rich people to pay for everything - once we take power permanently they will pay and we will recieve".
Public opinion still means something become part of the laughing stock. Once the monopolization is complete, that will mean the end of that though.
These things always go full retard authoritarian and uber violent on the remaining dissenters once the consolidation of power is complete. No reason to play nice and power never does when it doesn't have to. That much is pretty clear from history.
I'd tell you what I really think but Oprah would label me old and racist.
This crazy conspiracy theory is an insult to all the hard-working economists at BLS and in gov--
D'oh!
I've asked this before here of you who thought Romney or Obama, no difference.
You still believe that?
That kind of judgment is responsible for our current sad situation.
Hopefully it doesn't repeat next year, while there is still a slim chance of
salvaging the country. Lesser of evils is a necessary vote to defeat
worse evil.
Different face, same evil.
Mittens was repeatedly waffling on his opposition to Bummercare (that he invented as Governor of the Peoples' Democratic Republic of Mass.) even before the election.
He kissed Israeli boots even more passionately and convincingly than Bummer or Bush.
I won't bother trying to make an exhaustive list of similarities - too easy.
Lets say that he would have replaced Bernanke - do you really think we wouldn't be at $85B/mo, and that any Audit would be decried as paranoid conspiracy mongering?
Mittens - a pale, less articulate Obama who also falsely calls himself Christian.
So you are saying Obama was better? Really? It is amazing that so many fools that voted for this abortion to democracy are still trying to tell us he is just like all the rest. Admittedly there are no saints in this mix but fucking Obama is as close to an "in your face dictator" this country has seen thus far and it just drives me fucking nuts people are STILL trying to tell me he is no different than anyone else. I hope you choke on your fucked up ideology.
Who was worse: Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy?
Surely it was Dahmer because he partially ate his victims. We have to vote for Ted Bundy, because he wasn't as evil as Jeffrey Dahmer.
^ is what you sound like. You and your "lesser of two evils" buddies can kiss my ass.
Not asking you to vote for someone you don't like much, rather asking you to vote against someone who is a great danger to our liberty.
Just because Obarry is a nightmare, that doesn't justify a willful ignorance of the obvious fact that Romney was, too.
As for me, I wrote in my choice for President. With two equivalently crappy choices available in a broken democratic system, a middle finger is a totally valid third option to those who wish to exercise their right to vote without accepting the provided false choices.
I'm with you on this. Mitt was at least a demonstrated personal humanitarians that donated millions of his own money and countless hours oh his family's and his time.
Obama has never done anything for anyone but himself. Ever, in college he glommed onto rich roommates, as an adult he friendlied up with the dregs of the dregs to get a 'job'.
Even now, he throws foe and friend alike under the boss when need be. He is a POS.
You and I are in the minority on this point however.
...and there we are complaining that China is making up GDP figures.
Unemployment figures coming out of China do not lie. Take a quick look at the new housing sector.
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=11c5jki&s=5#.UosnRidc5iQ
This is so not news.
But one of Goldman Sachs actors left CNBC today. I don't know what her name was but she looked like a rat. A young rat. Saw it on Drudge.
As article after article on Zero Hedge confirms the trend in the news that one "conspiracy theory" after another is proven to have been conspiracy facts, my macabre sense of humour gets more threadbare, and has to be bolstered by heavy doses of attempts at more sublimely high indifference, in order to cope with the trajectory this is on!
For the sake of background, I REPEAT that the phrase "conspiracy theory" was deliberately popularized in the mass media, following a directive given by the CIA, to respond to people saying that the Warren Report on the assassination of President Kennedy was ridiculous bullshit.
http://www.thrivemovement.com/news-flash-cia-invents-conspiracy-theory.blog
Embedded inside that article is a link to a copy of the
declassified document about how 'conspiracy theory'
was promoted by the government through mass media.
http://www.jfklancer.com/CIA.html
CIA Document #1035-960
RE: Concerning Criticism of the Warren Report
"... 3. ... b. To employ propaganda assets to [negate] and refute the attacks of the critics. Book reviews and feature articles are particularly appropriate for this purpose. The unclassified attachments to this guidance should provide useful background material for passing to assets. ..."
OF COURSE, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT THE CIA, ETC., HAVE NOW BEEN PROVEN TO HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE 1960s, IS MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE WORSE NOW THAN BACK THEN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDADLpg1UXo#!
Why Is 9/11 Such A Taboo Subject?
We Have To Ask Questions About 9/11!
That is a video interview with an expert about election fraud (which the mass media has tended to deliberately ignore) who speaks about investigating where the mass media's uses of the phrase "conspiracy theory" came from, or rather when that kind of public relations attack first became the primary public relations, propaganda responses. Not surprisingly, that first happened to deal with the stories about the assassination of President Kennedy, which, I believe, was the original act of murder that was behind the history leading to 9/11 mass murders!
Anyone who seriously takes enough time to look into history realizes that we are on an exponential growth curve of dishonesty, backed by coercions, which has become runaway systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. Furthermore, there are no reasonable ways to avoid the conclusion that the American democratic republic is already practically dead, (like all the other fake democracies in the world are already practically dead.)
The increasing public awareness of "false flag attacks" is an aspect of the overall irreconcilable social polarizations, due to the basic social fact that force backed frauds control the real world, whereby a tiny minority are enabled to screw the vast majority, automatically worse every day ... with no end in sight to that acceleration of social insanities ... other than its eventual collapse into chaos due to too much success from controlling civilization with huge lies.
http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/
September 11 – The New Pearl Harbor
EXCELLENT, COMPREHENSIVE VIDEO ON 9/11!
Divided into three videos, that total 5 HOURS LONG.
As far I can tell, it was a waste of my time to bother learning more "truth" about money/murder systems. Or rather, it was worse than merely a waste of time. After 9/11/2001, NORCOM was created, and operated by people whose job it will be to carry out various ways of implementing democidal martial law, being prepared through the excuse of fighting "terrorism."
Welcome to the Bizarro Mirror World, Folks,
not only is it more Bizarre than we suppose,
it is more Bizarre than we could suppose ...
Adding more "conspiracy theories" together, and anticipating that those will also turn out to be conspiracy facts, then the conclusion is that the ruling classes are seriously preparing for, and actually intending to wipe out the majority of the world's human population through more genocidal wars, along with democidal martial law. Furthermore, understanding how utterly insane and irrational that may well be does nothing to stop it from still actually happening. After those things get going, then it will no longer matter how insane they are, there will still not be any sane way to actually resist being swept up inside of that social insanity.
Since I was a teenager, several decades ago, I started worrying about the world being based on exponential growth, backed by weapons of mass destruction. However, after several decades of learning more and more about that, and working at best as I could to try to mitigate that runaway social insanity, my current conclusions are that there are no reasonable, realistic ways out of that happening anyway.
When I add together my most comprehensive understanding of the problems that surround exponential growth, backed by weapons of mass destruction, and I look at those problems by imagining what the ruling classes are planning and preparing to do about that, then the "conspiracy theory" that appears set to become conspiracy fact is that there will be deliberately caused much, much more genocidal wars than ever before in human history, along with much, much worse democidal martial law than ever before in human history.
THE PROBLEM I FACE NOW IS THE SAME AS THAT WHICH FIRST DEVELOPED IN THE 1960s, when the world had developed enough weapons of mass destruction that any real war would mean that almost nobody would survive that. THERE WAS NO SANE WAY TO FIGHT THAT INSANITY THEN, AND THERE IS STILL NO SANE WAY TO FIGHT THAT INSANITY NOW, WHICH HAS ONLY GROWN ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE WORSE DURING THE LAST FEW DECADES.
There is no sane way to fight a revolution after the development of weapons of mass destruction, just as there is no sane way to fight a war, after the development of weapons of mass destruction. But nevertheless, the ruling classes that dominate the world systems today got to be who they are by being the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, and therefore, their social habits are to continue to do more of what they have always have been doing. Taken together, the REAL WORLD is an insane asylum, controlled by the most criminally insane people, who are working towards starting more genocidal wars, along with imposing democidal martial law, which will result in the majority of human population being murdered.
As we watch one conspiracy theory after another be proven to have been a conspiracy fact, the overall evidence is accumulating that the fundamental conspiracy theory of them all, which is that the ruling classes are working towards culling the human population, by arranging conditions which will cause the majority of the human population to be murdered, appears to actually be where all of that is headed! Furthermore, a deeper understanding of the deeper problem reveals that the exponential growth of the human population, and total amount of human activities, can NOT keep on an exponential growth path forever. Moreover, it gets harder and harder to imagine how that exponential growth of things doubling can even completely happen even once more, much less twice or thrice more times! Therefore, that impossible exponential growth MUST STOP, one way or another, sooner or later.
Given that the overwhelming vast majority of people act like Zombie Sheeple, or political idiots, who believe in bullshit, it is almost impossible to imagine how any other real solutions to these problems are actually possible, than those which are being covertly prepared by the ruling classes, which are to deliberately provoke more genocidal wars, along with imposing democidal martial law, that will cause the majority of the human population to end up being murdered, in one way or another, and probably sooner, rather than later.
Thinking about that disturbs me profoundly, as news story after news story confirms that "conspiracy theories" are proven to have been conspiracy facts ... since they all point in the direction of the ultimate conspiracy theory of the mass murder of the majority of world's population also turning out to have been a conspiracy fact. After all, there are no reasonable grounds, at the present time, to believe that the majority of people are willing and able to understand these problems any better, so that there could be better systems of death controls developed, rather than defaulting down to the most insane, and worst death controls possible, which is the real path that we are on now ...
Awesome posting man. Bravo.
Some cool links there too.
Nicely done and very informative. One of the best posts I've read. I saved it to disk for future reference. Do you have a place where you routinely post or comment?
With what you given, I imagine you've already read this but if you haven't its worth the read. Written in 1971 by a US congressman, if you didn't know any better you might think it was written yesteday......
http://www.ldsfreedomnetwork.com/none-dare-call-it-conspiracy.pdf
Thanks for the link, pitchpole. Yes, I had heard of that book before, but it is nice to have access to an online copy. I will add it to my forum, where I do routinely post comments, because I run the Marijuana Party of Canada:
http://www.marijuanaparty.ca/article.php3?id_article=161
A lot of my current attitudes are due to the social facts that, during the time that I have been registered as leader of the Marijuana Party of Canada, marijuana in Canada has become more criminalized than ever before. Furthermore, since 2004, changes in the Canadian elections laws have metaphorically resulted in deliberately burning the Marijuana Party to the ground, and then bulldozing it. Therefore, my views are based on several decades of experience of watching things actually get worse and worse, faster and faster, which tragically all appears to add together to point in the direction that I outlined in my comment above. Although I am finding it harder and harder to maintain even irrational hopes for the future, but nevertheless, I continue to try to ...
*appluase.*
Bring back Richard Nixon, all is forgiven.
This is golden. Check out the authoritarian statists' perspective on ZH's analysis on the Daily Kos
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/05/1140520/-Zero-Hedge-has-gone-BL...
Liberal Fascism overload.
I'm sure we will see a retraction and an apology shortly.
They forgot the [sarc]
The US Administration is rotten and smells badly. It shouldn't have so much power to inflict damage and pain to other countries. Something has to change in US.
Not to exacerbate the general angst about the villains who have co-opted the gov. but read this unabashed, oleaginous, and excetious hagiography of the mighty zero. Caveat Lector:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matthew-lynch-edd/12-reasons-why-obama-is-...
Wow! I wonder if he truly believes that nonsense, or if he knows he is just putting a bunch of propaganda on papers. Either way that is one of the most ridiculous pieces I have read.
he was auditioning for the Onion.
What a douche.
Read this clown's bio (and check his picture). It doesn't shock me that he's a TOTUS sycophant.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matthew-lynch-edd/
Sir, you owe me $8.00 for the breakfast I heaved after following your link.
Will accept payment in Bitcion only.
Carry on.
You didn't fake that.
Barack Insane Obama, the Propaganda President!
Should we be surprised, since it was progressive Edward Bernays that INVENTED propaganda? Joseph Goebbels used Bernays' techniques as Hitler's Propaganda Minister, and the Soviets learned the techniques from American progressives also.
Progressives create propaganda as more than methodology. To them, it's STRATEGY!
Machiavelli would be proud! The end justifies the means!
The horror...the horror...
Data fabricators are considered "essential employees," and don't get laid off during government shutdowns.
He will wrtie a book next like the FED guy who came out about QE. What assholes
OT: but in some small way very nagging...
one thing that is a puzzel to me lately: has the FBI lost it's PR firm, I mean where is the FBI? it's like the FBI has been removed from DC. oh ,maybe it has something to do with no arrests of the elites of wall street since 2008. are all the FBI agents now on furlough? or are they fighting in syria?
They are all out schmoozing with half witted diaper heads to see if they can drum up a terrorist conspiracy and then bust them.
It must be a slow news day or something. Reporting the obvious as news again.
Yeah Pump, we know. I think I just heard this news on CNBC, or MSM outlet like that.
Slow news day for sure............
Does anyone remember that, immediately after inauguration, BHO tried to get the Census Department to be reorganized and report directly to the WH? He alone is not smart enough to do the calculus, but his handlers know that controlling the numbers, i.e., economic reports, and population figures which are gerrymandering inputs, helps you keep control.
totally normal in good old germany:
when it looks bad for merkel-side the jobfigures go down pre-election and they go up afterwards in case the "right" party had won
wag the dog as usual
As long as the oil flows all will be well. Corruption in anything, there is.
Fake numbers, fake president, fake elections, no big deal.
You have to ignore the ignoramuses.
JQC, this administration tortures and murders people. What's a little fib about jobs?
There aren't that many things that I disagree with Thomas Jefferson about, but giving the Government reporting responsibilities is one of them. They can't be trusted. Everything they do needs to be privately audited. Education responsibilities is another.
Shocking I say. The state apperatus being used for political ends. Shocking.
if is connected to this in any way , shape or form , the only way to deal with this is impeachment . If he is connected in any way and gets away with it , then history will talk about the US before Obama and after Obama .
So what's new. We all know the jobs numbers were wrong, have been and still are. Obama didn't win on jobs numbers. Obama won because Romney was a free trader that was all about closing plants and sending American jobs overseas.
Please tell what jobs whould he have shipped overseas there are none left to ship.
When Rumney was campaigning Blain Capital was in the process of gutting another company in NW Illinois.
I don't see the issue though as this number has been faked since it's inception.
When Rumney was campaigning Blain Capital was in the process of gutting another company in NW Illinois.
When did Romney leave Bain Capital?
Exactly, his reputation preceded him.
and if the election wasn't so predetermined Romney could have made an issue out of that scam employment number.
That's what you get for making birth certificates/abortion/death panels/tax cuts for the rich the main issues.
Rigged Number: NO FUCKING DUH!
Any manipulation of the number is a non-partisan affair. Has happened since Reagan. Just another example of the government and the private sector working together to create a false paradigm to cover up what an economic mess the US is still in.
Thank you.
Whichever had won in 2012, things would be more or less the same. Except with MR in the White House, the R's might have actually defunded/repealed Obamacare instead of the BO tactic of letting it crash and burn.
The end game is the same, they've just got a couple different ways to get there. Anybody still stuck in the left-right paradigm has their head stuck firmly in the sand.
Now this would be news:
The October 2012 Pre-Election Jobs Report Was TRUEUnbelievable
OBAMA-RIGGED......being PC here....not jimmy-rigged, nigger-rigged....nope....OBAMA-RIGGED.
The whole damn election was faked.
When questioned by the MSM, President Gobbels stated, "Uhhhhhhhhh, I'm mad - and uhhhhhhhhh I heard about it on the radio, and uhhhhhhhhhh I read about it in the newspaper and didn't know this happened. I had no idea."
http://vegasxau.blogspot.com
Fraud/corruption has been legitimized and is legal. From the banksters that setup fraudulent mortgages to the White house nobody is prosecuted.
Illinois/Chicago has a long history of criminals being in charge of government. A number of Illinois governors have been sent to prison.
WHAT DOES ANYONE EXPECT?
SHIT IN, SHIT OUT.....OBAMA MEANS WELL BUT HIS A FUCKING IDIOT...PEROID.
Seriously, Jesse Jackson would do better!
You'd think that at some point the media would stop calling us "conspiracy theorists" and instead call us "realists". Nah, just kidding.
But Obama didn't build that. Somebody built that for him.
Great report. BUT who cares its all noise nobody is going to do anything about it. Dictators get into power because of their support cast. Everyone on ZH knows somebody on that cast and until you decided to shame or boycott them nothing will change for the better.
//We have lived with this corruption for years but turned a blind eye because we were too busy getting up each morning and going to work to earn to pay the beast. Now the super greedy have ruined it for the normally greedy, we have no work and therefore no distraction from the ugly truth.
This is unbelievable, said nobody ever.
Conspiracy Theorists
Domestic Terrorists
Anti-Government Individuals (AGI's new three letter acronym I just invented?)
Racist Conservative Whites (by default all Whites are racist right)
Oppressive wife-beating Males.
Bible-Beating Renegades
Gun-Owning uneducated toothless hillbillies.
Anti-Tax Business Owners....
HOLY SHIT. LOOK AT THE TERMS THE MEDIA LABELS US!!!
JUST WANT MUH FREEDOM!!!
Oops, forgot to mention:
Persons who own that Barbarous Relic.
Al Jizz TV = CNBC, and the Main Stream Media of Lies, watch LIE AND pump....only 5000 watching LEFT HANDED.
The October jobs report did not affect my vote. I wasn't going to vote for either of the lying frauds that the major parties put up.
As i recall, Romney had a slight leaf or momentum going into the superstorm. The superstorm put the electioneering on hold and sucked any wind out of Romney's sail. Momentum moved back to the emergency aider in cheif and that was that.
I don't think anyone looked at the unemployment report and changed their vote to Obama.
Your most liklely right on that, however...
Besides this obvious lie there were the hundreds of conservative action groups which were actively suppressed by the Revenue people. Taking away their 1st amendment rights.
The direct payments to large union groups, with the implied promise of more to come should the incumbent be re-elected.
The massive free for all increase in benefits to those who traditionally vote blue.
The now admited lie that you could keep your healthcare if you liked it.
The suppresion of any discusion on Bengazi, fast and furious, solyndra ect...
Red or Blue We were screwed since they are a distinction without a difference,but put all this together with much more not mentioned or known, and it equals fraud.
We are so far from the America I grew up in that I do not recognise my own Country.
Eveyone should know by now that the official (U3) unemployment numbers are meaningless - there is absolutely no connection to "out of work".
You are better of looking at the number of people not participating in the workforce, or the Shadowstats number, which use the old pre-rigged numbers, currently over 20%.
The rigged unemployment numbers are like the CPI or inflation numbers, that do not count food, gas, rent, electricity, or anything else that has gone up in price that people actually have to buy.
So when are people going to jail?
Is there anything not fake about this president or administration?
Wasn't Jack Welch taken to the woodshed for saying the numbers were faked back in 2012? The Famous Chicago Guys tweet?
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/10/05/10-reactions-to-jack-wel...
I guess the saying is true First they call you a liar and denounce you. Then they call you a conspircy nut and mock you. Then they call you a prophet and respect you. Unfortunally the last part usually doesn't happen until after your dead.
Wasn't Jack Welch taken to the woodshed for saying the numbers were faked back in 2012? The Famous Chicago Guys tweet?
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/10/05/10-reactions-to-jack-wel...
I guess the saying is true First they call you a liar and denounce you. Then they call you a conspircy nut and mock you. Then they call you a prophet and respect you. Unfortunally the last part usually doesn't happen until after your dead.
When the end justifies the means, it is acceptable to do whatever it takes.....of course, my 'end' and your 'end' may be in seperate universes....
The senior official claims the US has played an influential role in encouraging the watchdog to underplay the rate of decline from existing oil fields while overplaying the chances of finding new reserves.
The allegations raise serious questions about the accuracy of the organisation's latest World Energy Outlook on oil demand and supply to be published tomorrow – which is used by the British and many other governments to help guide their wider energy and climate change policies.