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Fidelity Now Allowing Bitcoins In IRAs

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We are sure this will all end well... but as Marketwatch reports, Fidelity has partnered with SecondMarket’s Bitcoin Investment Trust to allow its clients to save for their retirement by putting the virtual currency in self-directed IRAs.

 

Via Marketwatch,

If you are a Fidelity client, you can now invest in the Bitcoin Investment Trust through an IRA,” said Barry Silbert, chief executive of SecondMarket, in an interview.

 

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MarketWatch previously reported that SecondMarket had teamed up with self-directed IRA providers PENSCO, Entrust and Equity Institutional  to allow investors to save for retirement with bitcoin.

 

Fidelity is the largest and most well-known company that SecondMarket has teamed up with for this, Silbert said, adding that he hopes to add a few more providers soon.

How long until other larger pension funds demand access (via mandate changes) to the cryto-currency? This evening's comments from CALSTRS CIO:

  • *CALSTRS: `WE ARE UNDERFUNDED' SO NEED CONTRIBUTIONS, RETURNS
  • *CALSTRS: TARGETS 7.5% RETURN ANNUALLY OVER 10-YEAR PERIOD

Implies he needs to be "saving" to fund his liabilities in more than simple old stocks...

Is Bitcoin the great white hope for the nation's under-funded pension schemes?

 

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Thu, 12/12/2013 - 01:43 | 4238843 One World Mafia
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Banks don't generally promote gold unless there is a smackdown ahead.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:39 | 4238193 Prisoners_dilemna
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Concept 4) Liberty advocates love free markets. But, with freedom comes responsibility. Bitcoin exists in a free market. It is not regulated, tracked, or overseen by anything other than cold hard mathematics. Thus, the companies and organizations you find in Bitcoinland are often unregulated and private. A Bitcoin-based company doesn't even need to be registered as a company anywhere, because it doesn't need a business checking account or an IRS extortion number (known as an EIN). While this means Bitcoin enables truly free trade on a global scale, it also means Bitcoin users need to be careful and prudent. Don't buy things from companies or websites you don't trust. You may never see your money again, and there is no way to "reverse" a payment. With Bitcoin, reputation and history are everything. If you wouldn't give cash to a stranger in an alleyway, don't give Bitcoins to a stranger online. Enjoy the free market, and be a responsible adult.

http://evoorhees.blogspot.com/2012/04/bitcoin-libertarian-introduction.h...

 

How do you know what the end goal is? Are you a member of that club?

Also how do you know how bitcoin is controlled?

Because after looking into it myself for over a year now I've reached the exact opposite conclusion. So maybe you can clue me in to how you know all this?

In fact, together, you and I can audit the code and see exactly what bitcoin is and isn;t. Do you know what open source means?

If not I suggest you shut the fuck up and let the adults talk.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths

 

it's called rats jumping ship, onto whatever floats by.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:45 | 4238232 skank
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WTF are you talkin' about? ... "free markets"

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:32 | 4238523 geewhiz
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When you want to see otherwise sensible zh'ers get dumb, mention BitCoin. Just do your thing prisoners_dilemna, time will tell the tale.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:42 | 4238217 AGAU
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They are definitely not touting bitcoin, they want you to invest in some bitcoin derivative, they're not going to actually buy bitcoins with your money in my opinion.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:02 | 4238285 seek
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We'll know soon enough, if it gets to be any size there should be evidence of their purchases.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:09 | 4238467 Ocean22
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As soon as we loose cash we are in trouble. Tax everything.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:39 | 4238542 geewhiz
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You got loose cash? Send it over, I'll secure it in BitCoin, no way I'll lose those.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:46 | 4240227 Exponere Mendaces
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@IridumRebel

Suuuuuuure it is.

Love it when you barking seal trolls first heard about bitcoin, it was "nobody trades that", and "Its worthless". But when the financial heavy-hitters start getting involved, it becomes "They created it to track you". Hahaha. Yeah, sure buddy. Love that rationalization there.

What's next, when a country decides to back Bitcoin, they were originally founded as a nation to promote bitcoin hundreds of years ago?

What a bunch of complete goofball tinfoil-heads.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:39 | 4238205 Bunga Bunga
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It's even on "The Simpsons":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5haSCooHs

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:41 | 4238214 papaswamp
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Bitcoin is true!!! The universe is a hologram. Bitcoin isn't real currency thus Bitcoin is a hologram.....which actually makes bitcoin real!!!!!!!!

 

Universe hologram shit:

http://www.nature.com/news/simulations-back-up-theory-that-universe-is-a...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:43 | 4238222 Kina
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All in. Last one in is a rotten egg.

 

I will wait and see if bitcoin stabalises.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:07 | 4238453 Matt
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What is your criteria for "stable"?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:45 | 4238228 Yellowhoard
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When the establishment embraces BitCoins, one must consider motivation.

Did they create BitCoin as an alternative to gold?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:51 | 4238243 One And Only
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No one who knows anything about bitcoin has ever compared it to gold.

It is a compliment to gold. That is all.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:49 | 4238237 Intoxicologist
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My PM stash was in an IRA*

*In Rowboat Accident

 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:53 | 4238258 thewayitis
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  BIT coin ....How about SHIT coin. What the fuck. Another fuckin PONZI.  Lets see how long this lasts...........

 

 

 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:00 | 4238284 surf0766
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I think we can make a bitcoin backed security. Just adding the term security will make the sheep buy it.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:01 | 4238287 CPL
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Coming down the Mountain!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyQu_a4DAmU

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:18 | 4238325 Yen Cross
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     I'll bet the Bitcoin purists aren't real happy about this. Bitcoin is on it's way to being fully regulated. (in the US) China is also cracking down on it's use, so there goes the 2 largest markets (by far) in BTC. I actually like the idea of BTC used as a store of value along with other investments, as opposed to being a currency alternative. (way too volatile)

   These big banks/retirement custodians are going to buy it, and manipulate the hell out of it though. They just got busted for doing the same shit with PMs.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:51 | 4240239 Exponere Mendaces
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@Yen Cross

We're just fine with nations pretending they can push the jello back into the container. They can't. I've had extensive conversations with people I know living in China, who can read the original announcement and run businesses using Bitcoin there. This is a ring-fencing move, much like the "Special Administrative Regions" are, that's all. Hasn't stopped BTC China from trading, or other things happening.

But I know you're hoping for it all to end, for the "nightmare" of Bitcoin adoption to slow down and not inundate your doorstep, forcing you to get your feet wet. But the problem is -- it won't stop. (Well, YOUR problem, lol)

But of course, when Bitcoin first was out there, you barking seal trolls said it was worthless, and now that the heavy-hitters are getting involved, you're changing tack and saying that they planned it all along.

Pathetic rationalizers. Get with the times, or they're going to pass you by...

 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:23 | 4238335 Sufiy
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The Future Of Money: Gold, CIA And Bitcoin

All these discussions about the CIA and Bitcoin connections are still in the conspiracy theory category like LIBOR and FOREX manipulations before. After China has banned its financial institutions from participation in Bitcoin the question about who is really behind the Bitcoin is getting more and more interesting.
With Facebook we created for NSA all our profiles, with Bitcoin somebody is mapping our accounts, IDs and Networks. As the case with Silk Road shows Bitcoin transactions are public forever, can be mapped and build into evidence - so much for distribution and anonymity.

http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/the-future-of-money-gold-cia-and-bit...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:28 | 4238350 Son of Captain Nemo
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For those who are interested in trivia on just this topic and how far the squid tentacle stretch -this one is an interesting read.

http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/14-years-ago-jp-morgan-patented-bitcoin-like-payment-system?overrideMobileRedirect=1

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:13 | 4238721 One World Mafia
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Their friends at the NSA were exploring virtual currencies in 1996.

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsa...

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:51 | 4240246 Son of Captain Nemo
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Very informative indeed.  Thx

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:52 | 4238404 Fix It Again Timmy
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Fidelity is also opening an IRA for Yap Coins - ya know it hadda happen.....

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/02/15/131934618/the-island-of-stone-...

 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:12 | 4238471 quasimodo
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And in tomorrow's news

"Fidelity opening an IRA for used condoms and diaphragms"

Seriously, they have about as much value as 1's and 0's, and after the fact you have something to show for it.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:24 | 4238505 Iceobar
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Looks like a tulip, smells like a tulip..

Put the petal to the metal........

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 01:00 | 4238797 Randoom Thought
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The Gnomes of Zurich are working overtime to make their Global Fully Electronic Fiat Currency the next and global reserve currency. Pay more attention to the actions than the words. BITCOIN is now receiving massive mainstream support... and it is not anti-central bank. It IS central bank ...

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 03:53 | 4238925 TheHound73
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Where can I buy a bitcoin?  Central bank selling them? Where?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 07:13 | 4239038 fiftybagger
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Oh snap.  Gotta go, DGC breakout

https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/26

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:02 | 4255813 Trampy
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Fidelity Now Allowing Bitcoins In IRAs

This takes the top prize in the ridiculous nonsense category.  Fidelity has done absolutely nothing of the kind!

 

 

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