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Americans React To End Of Jobless Benefits: “I Just Don’t Know What To Do, Except Pray”
"It's going to put my family and me out on the streets," is a perspective shared by many of the 1.3 million Americans about to lose their emergency unemployment claims. The program, started during the recession, was intended to help jobless people after they exhausted state benefits, typically lasting six months. House Republicans resisted continuing the benefits without budget cuts elsewhere to cover the cost. As Bloomberg reports, opponents say the extended benefits discourage the unemployed from accepting jobs and that the program should be curtailed, given the recovery in the nation’s labor market.
“It lacks compassion for the victims of the recession and, economically, it’s shooting ourselves in the foot,” said Lawrence Mishel, the president of the Economic Policy Institute in Washington, which backs policies that help low-income workers. “The timing is very premature. The evidence is that people who want work can’t find it.”
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“The economy has now been out of a recession for more than four years,” said Chris Edwards, an economist with the Cato Institute in Washington, which argues for scaling back the role of government. “These unemployment benefits are emergency benefits, but the economy is no longer in an emergency situation. People can find jobs if they are willing to moderate their wage demands and make compromises.”
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“Not all of us have savings and a lot of us have to take care of family because of what happened in the economy,” said Walker, of Santa Clarita, who said she has applied for at least three jobs a week and shares an apartment with her unemployed son, his wife and two children. “It’s going to put my family and me out on the streets.”
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There were 3.9 million job openings across the U.S. at the end of October, according to the Labor Department. That same month, 11.3 million people were looking for work but couldn’t find it, a gap advocates say underscores the need to keep benefits flowing.
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Failure to extend the program will affect 1.9 million people who are forecast to use up their state benefits in the first half of 2014 before they can find work, according to the White House.
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The effect will be especially pronounced in the most-populous U.S. states. In New York, 102,700 people were expected to lose their benefits on Dec. 28, said Chris White, a spokesman for the state’s labor department. In New Jersey, about 90,300 will do the same, according to estimates from Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee. More than 222,000 Californians will likewise see their benefits disappear.
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“I understand the government doesn’t want to pay for people who are taking advantage of it,” she said. “But I am not, and many other people are not.”
“I just don’t know what to do, except pray.”
Of course, as we discussed in detail previously, this will mean a notable drop in the unemployment rate (for what that is worth)...
This has profound implications for the oh-so-important unemployment rate that the Fed is so dependent upon...
JPM's Feroli: One observation that could set an upper bound on thinking about a participation effect is to hypothesize that all 1.3 million EUC claimants exit the labor force after benefits expire in 1Q (again, should Congress allow that to happen). In that case, the unemployment rate would fall by 0.8%-pt, obviously an extreme example. Some of the Fed studies can help to narrow the range of outcomes.
One of the more recent works (Farber and Valletta from the San Francisco Fed) indicates that about a fifth of long-term unemployment is due to extended benefits. With just over 4 million long-term unemployed recently, this would imply that the absence of extended UI benefits could lower the unemployment rate by 0.5%-pt.
This will directly impact the Fed's credibility to manage the economt in a "data-dependent" manner:
JPM's Feroli: Setting aside the normative aspect of whether from a public policy perspective this is a desirable or undesirable outcome, such a fall in the unemployment and participation rates could create some tricky choices for Fed policymakers as they assess the health of the labor market.
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2+2=3 ...... no need to count the starving and the homeless in the unemployment figures.
yah, and because millions of 20 hr/week part time chobs with NO benefits have the same "buying power" for the consumer economy as a full time 40 hr/week FULL benefits chob... duh, everybody knows that
I'm missing something. Isn't Obamacare going to give everyone bennefits?
Thats called Medicaid, and all Obama care has done is swell the rolls of it.
Exactly. One number gave up looking to get into the equation
I slight revision to lesson #1:
Lession #1: The answer is "5". No need to bother yourself with the details.
But the best answer is 2+2 = any other number but 4. This leaves much flexibility to choose many numbers depending on what is needed at the time.
Exactly the Republicans point. Millions of people are riding unemployment, waiting for good paying jobs with benefits to arrive, but they aren't coming back.
Time to bite the bullet and make that minimum wage 'career change'.
The corporations need to suppress wages or they won't win the race to the bottom.
Be serious. Crime is much, much more profitable. And the tax environment is much more inviting. Crime pays - just ask a banker.
Good point, although any serious money scams are probably beyond the imagination of people who can only make money through UI.
No, the bulk of them will flip burgers.
toady
or move to one of the BRICS
I cannot wait to see what happens with the unemployed ex-police officers when they're cutoff.
A lot of them will break bad, and they'll be successful at it. Some years back I remember watching a true crime show on one of the cable channels about a string of unsovled bank robberies. Finally they got lucky, because these guys were careful and smart and knew everything they needed to know to pull off these daring daytime robberies. The gang was a group of police officers. Get ready to pay protection (in the Tony Soprano sense) on top of your taxes.
There was a serial bank robber in Minnesota last year--full time member of the Minneapolis police dept, SWAT even.
Really where? There are none to be found. Gubermint employment federal state local level is growing, this includes Cops. A few bankrupt cities make the news, but the vast majority are hiring cops like crazy getting ready for the day the ATM cards dont work, and the EBT cards do.
What statistics do you have to show that state and local gov't employee has grown? It has been sharply reduced overall and still hasn't rebounded to anywhere near '08 aggregrate levels.
State and local gov't can't pull the same magic budget tricks the feds can annually.
BS gummit worker unemployment rate is 2.6%.
So the food riots start as soon as the hangovers clear?
no food riots, hangovers won't clear
while nobody's watching
Fukushima met Godzilla
mated, and ate the future
Why do you think there are so many alcholics in Russia?
Welcome to the USSA!
In the meantime, the DJIA makes 50 record highs during the year. It's a wonderful world for 2% of us.
1%.
.1%
0.01%
Boo-hoo-hoo! Guess I'll just have to finish that SSI application I've been putting off...
What a load of crap.
Really dude? Mcdonalds had what......946,000 applications and hired like 50k of them?
There are NOT enough jobs for these people. Let alone anything that pays.
I agree many are losers like you mention but better have some compassion because if you think millions of people sitting around starving is going to benefit you in the long run in most cases you are sadly mistaken it is going to spread like a bad virus. Everything is innerconnected and i'm quite certain you aren't in the top 1% so be careful what you wish for.
Plenty of jobs outside of Hightaxland.. In fact, walking into my local Buc-ee's I saw they had "Minimum Wage: $11-12" plastered above the front entrance.. No wonder they have the cleanest bathrooms..
And, magically, outside of hightaxland a dollar tends to go a bit further... the cost of living much cheaper...
Not enough jobs for these retarted PEOPLE.... there fixed it for ya.
That's real funny. Plenty of jobs outside of hightaxland. HaHaHa.
I just got back from visiting my 89 year old Mother in rural SW GA. They have very low taxes, a low cost of living, and no jobs. I travel all around the Southeast, and have for going on 40 years. The shriveled up towns and communities that were once thriving are a pathetic sight, and if you spend enough time with the people from those places, you come to understand the desperation and the fear. Pick up some of the local papers, and what you see looks like the police blotter. Crime is rampant, and anything not guarded is subject to being stolen. Arrests for assaults, drunkeness, drugs are all through the roof. The tax base is gone, and infrastructure is crumbling. Main street is dead.....America's heartland is dying. Huge swaths of the country does look as if it is inhabited by zombies.
No Jobs, no Purpose, no Pride or Dignity....just depression brought on by a downward spiral.
But, hey, all must be good cause they do have a 24hr WalMart (you should see that place about 11:00 on Saturday night).
Yup. I traveled to a friend's cabin in SW PA and outside of the gas boom (which isn't soem 25-50 year industry but more of a 5-10 year boom at best) is it desperation city.
Rural America is dying and is contrarily to the nonsense you read on here in big trouble in most parts.
14+ million illegals diluting the job pool and pay structure.
We are a country committing suicide by means of political correctness.
I don't think anyone blames the illegals for wanting a better life but we need to take care of our own first.
Like sending our jobs to CHINA??
millions of people sitting around starving
But we really don't know if that will happen, do we? Because when people are faced with a stark reality they tend to become a bit more focused on dealing with that reality (and getting a job). The whole idea of extended welfare unemployment is that "we'll give people a low but quite livable lifestyle which will motivate them to go out and find a good, middle-class job". Well, guess what? A lot of people are happy with a low but quite livable lifestyle if it means they don't have to work at all.
Try to remember that these are unemployment benefits we are talking about. These were people who were productive and proud to be contributing - and the vast majority want to be productive again.
So, we cut off these benefits, then what? Well, I guess they just mosey over to the welfare line and get a different kind of benefit.
The dead wood of most corporations was never productive. It was a form of welfare to keep them on the payroll at all.
"Boo-hoo-hoo! Guess I'll just have to finish that SSI application I've been putting off..."
You either:
1. Forgot the /sarc tag
2. Are a huge asshole
I'm guessing it's number 2.
1000's of people die everyday due to poverty. That proves 'praying' is a waste of time.
Your conclusion indicates to me that you may not understand prayer as it relates to the Western Abrahamic God.
I recently read that people of planet Earth pray to some 300 different gods. And all of them think their god is the only one to pray to.
I guess I will create an iphone app where I can say one prayer and text it to all 300.
the rubes up in here are a trip...
and yeah Pascal's Wager ain't valid any longer, except maybe to subset of 'religious' folkz...
300? You really need to brush up on your world religions. Try counting the gods of hinduism.
Edit: Try this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hindu_deities
pascal's wager was never valid... the same logic that gave birth to the flying spaghetti monster was around the day pascal began pontificating.
That sounds like bad information written by an ignorant author. Where did you read that?
hey hedgeless how much do you think TWTR is worth?
LOL!!! the know-it-all's know all up in here! LOL!!!
I don't know, something more than your failed blog.
http://vastdom.blogspot.com/
who is this vastdom?
and where's YOUR blog?? (i'm sure if you had one, it'd have some nice homemade abattoir pics LOL!!!)
LOL!!!!
and u didnt answer the question: how much do YOU think TWTR is worth? maybe you could pray for the right answer¿¿¿
Take a look in the mirror vastdom. There you will see the POS that is a stain on this board.
He's still got his vegan vagina all knotted up over the pics of that delicious rabbit HH prepared.
@rsnoble "I prayed for a ferrari and god didn't give me one, therefore god doesn't exist!" lol dig deeper or leave it alone.
u didnt pray hard enough nor to the 'right' deity, clearly....
Dear FED......I will suck your cock and fuck over as many lemmings as possible. Now give me that new car.
now that's a prayer worth repeating, so long as you are VERY CLOSE to the cocks printing money. at very least close enough for your tongue to be able to lick that tip (of Yellen's cock soon).
but but but: "That sounds like bad information written by an ignorant author. " "you may not have..." LOL!!!!
Ok Look.......for the record I don't have a problem with praying. It's simply meant as sitting around wishing for something better to happen is probably going to do more harm than good based on previous results. If you want to pray fine just don't treat it as if it's the only thing you have left because most likely you will be disappointed. There could also be other benefits like bringing people together for a common cause which would be much more beneficial than waiting on some fairytale scripture to save you.
rsnoble: there are too many fucking rubes commenting here: you will NOT change them nor should you try. they haven't understood most rudimentary tenets of Fight Club, they don't trade, they just crap out their mostly ignorant opinions here a lot and it's a shame bc the actual content by Tylerz is all around excellent....
Not unlike your own comments and opinions, VD.
i agree with that post. it actually helps one trade: front run the Fed and make $$$, but be nimble enough to get the fuck out of your positions and fast. that could take a week or years though, so trade cautiously. yes it is centrally planned and that should be large component of your trading parameters. correct.
get it?
How about we each propose a trade for Q1 2014?
Buy 12:00 Eastern today, sell at noon the last day of the quarter, but we can close it earlier by posting we are doing so.
No suprise, the silence is deafening from VD
what can you possibly offer as a trade¿¿¿ and how will YOU (with an original concept predicated on actual RESEARCH) come to this trade¿¿¿ amuse me....
and u clearly did NOT comprehend my previous post TIMEFRAME-WISE!
Please propose a different time frame, and your trade.
I propose to hold cash for the first quarter 2014, against whatever trades VD cares to make, and bet he does worse in the end. LOL!
tips are for waitresses. you started this inane 'bet' so why don't YOU go first? show us EXACTLY HOW YOU ARRIVE AT THIS TRADE OF YOURS AND I'll give you an idea of my narrative on trades. is that fair? and yes, cash on sidelines is an excellent move if, assuming you're not making money/positioned on current trades.
it's so easy to make guesses and PRAY for the best, but it's much more difficult to have a legit trading strategy so amuse us hedgeless, between your time slaying rabbits and taking long hikes......and of course posting here...
and i'll give you a bonus: i'm closing out my last trade sometime tomorrow which i got into a few months ago: i'll hit u wit the timestamp and then u can start praying to me.
and it's beyond obvious that you are a rank amateur if you are going to draw any meaningful conclusions on a one single time-based bet: let me teach you something if that's possible: it's the TRACK RECORD that counts, not a single move. get it?
do you have a track record? do you do research? or are you just reaching here?
After reading that link, I get it. VD = Vast Dumb
I'm going to pray to Obama that you get a $100,000 deductible for only $1500/mo.
I put in an application to be a Bankster; you can all be 100 percent assured that I, as a freshly minted Bankster, will prey every minute I am awake.
When asleep I'll think of new ways to prey!
Naw fuck it, I'll just go back to panhandling.
"If wishes were horses, beggars would ride"
Ahhh ... the entrepreneurial spirit. Love it! It's what made America great...until it got smug....
If those 1.3m aren't prepared to accept a job for whatever the market will bear for them, then maybe they should be looking to re-engage some of that entrepreneurial spirit again.
Correct but somewhere between Point A and Point B there's going to be a huge shakedown. It's inevitable and therefore another reason not to waste time praying. Fact of the matter most of those people will NOT be prepared to accept that job and will lose everything in the process and a very small % will engage in the entrepreneurial spirt unless that includes theft and prostitution. What's going to happen when millions are left with nothing is anything but a smooth transition.
I think there would be a huge market for legalized prostitution in the U.S. The tax revenues would be way more than from legalizing marijuana. Make pimping illegal. Make soliciting underage prostitution illegal. Make prostitution between two consenting adults legal.
At least with sex tourism, the tourists don't leave with anything other than a burning sensation during urination... I'm much rather them own that than prime real estate... not that it matters, since the yokels will part them from it soon enough, but I digress...
Soon, everyone on government benefits will be moved to means-tested (controlled spending) electronic payments ... GovCoin. Who knows when the debt bubble will burst - but, when it does, there will be a new paradigm in government control of 'resources'.
Many more jobs are going to be lost in just the next few years to offshored production (as taxes are raised and raised) as well as to considerably more automation of the service econony. This means many many more will become dependent on government managing their 'income'. It's inevitable ... unless states secede and go it alone with rational deregulation of small business.
JMO.
I look forward to the day when real estate sells for whatever price the market will bear. No, I won't hold my breath.
On the plus side, if you don't have a house then you don't need to buy furniture ...
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But I thought Lincoln was dead?
Ouch.
The Abrahamic deities aren't Western!
Deities? I am referring to the one God of Abraham, who was initially known as Abram, and came from the city of Ur in Mesopotamia.
@hedgeless_horseman,
One god, or triunes, or many takes on the "one god", or various deities blended, borrowed from, compiled, constructed, etc. Either way Mesopotamia isn't in the West, it is the Middle East.
loon... drop the religious bullshit! you are born, you die. quit being a child afraid of death.
well typed Idisq! but when will the non-loon non-rubes b a majority up in these comment sectionz¿¿¿
I don't know what you mean by religious bullshit. Abraham is generally recognized as the father of monotheism.
I agree I was born and will die. I am not afraid of death.
I like you HH but does that come from the big story book?
Shit in one hand and pray in the other and see which one fills up first.
Re: rsnoble
That's not a well thought out statement. People dying due to poverty and the act of praying (or not) are not directly linked.
Did all of those in poverty pray? To whom did they pray? Was their poverty self-inflicted (addictions from drugs, alcohol, gambling, etc.), or was it externally caused?
This is a wicked old world and yes 1,000's of people die every day. Once born, death is a certainty. So your statement would be 'true' if put in opposite or contrary terms, such as:
1,000's of wealthy people die every day. That proves 'praying' is a waste of time. Or,
Millions of people live every day. That proves 'praying' is a waste of time.
Here's your form of logic:
Major premise: 1,000's of people die every day
Minor premise: They were poor
Conclusion: Praying is a waste of time.
Conclusion might as well have been, "Lack of peanut butter sandwiches causes death". It just has nothing to do with the premises.
To my downvoters: instead of just clicking the red arrow because you don't like what I said, why not argue my point?
That would require first thinking through their own beliefs and then mustering up the temerity to articulate their positions in public.
A tough call for many who live in their mother's basement...
DaddyO
and tough for those that live in their mother's barns too.
Nice double entendre VD.
Because the CANNOT argue against your point as your logic is sound.
Many just are content to belong to the Animal Kingdom, deny God, and desire to justify their Animal Behavior.
Most atheists, as I have previously demonstrated, are just irrational.
They need to read Nietzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil" and adopt those principles. But they do not and they "Moralize" about the "Evils" of Unemployment and other such nonsense.
It is survival of the fittest in the Animal Kingdom. The Strong survive while the weak perish. There is nothing Good or Evil about that...if you are a consistent and RATIONAL ATHEIST..
Even Ayn Rand was well instructed by her mentor, Friedrich Nietzsche.
That is the reason you will just receive down arrows instead of debate.
Most atheists are irrational dullards.
I contend that our ability to deny god is what separates us from the other animals... nice ad hominems though.
I feel the same way about religious people--dullards. You are so wrong if you think that only religious people are capable of compassion and acting beyond basic "animal behavior" which is just childish, frankly. What's most hilarious about all this is how the whole story of Jesus is just a poorly rehashed sun-worship myth. This is what a whole religion of mindless do-gooding and meddling was founded upon. And it mightily pisses them off to have it explained because it does not jibe with their idiotic beliefs.
What is irrational about being an atheist? It is a perfectly rational approach to life. I can appreciate the reverence for solar and other astral phenomenon and not have to accept the guilt and the baggage. They took this cute little parable and built a colossal waste of time out of it!
What is irrational is reading the Bible and then interpreting that as fact, despite there being no historical backing for any of it. It's clearly made up, but irrational people the world over have convinced themselves otherwise, indeed, going to great lengths to search only for supporting details while ignoring evidence to the contrary. So fundamentally, you're sitting here telling everyone who doesn't agree with you that they wrong, meanwhile, your own basis for all of this is was made up. That it was made up in the 10th century doesn't matter. Nothing is "rational" when it comes to belief, nothing whatsoever. Believe all you want, knock yourself out, but quit the moral high-horse already.
I can take the Moral High Ground as I do believe in God.
What is irrational is that you sit and declare actions as "Evil".
Since you deny God and are just part of the ANIMAL KINGDOM then I expect that you will behave as...AN ANIMAL.
From your position what I can expect is an action of PREFERENCE as there is no STANDARD of behavior. It is just what you may like, or, dislike, and that is merely upon your whims.
It would not shock me if you buttfucked your own children as the Alpha Male Chimpanzees do that.
You place yourself in the Animal Kingdom. Not me.
You ought to read Nietzsche's, "Beyond Good and Evil" and find out the rational and logical conclusion to atheism.
As for me...Yes I will take the High Ground. I know, AS A MORAL CERTAINTY, that I am above that of the Animals...unlike...YOU.
I am not writing that you are incapable of Moral Behavior. I am writing that I do not expect it from you because of your CHOSEN position...that of an ANIMAL.
LMAO.
Through moral relativism and consistency, we can arrive at a pretty complete moral code... is the golden rule uniquely divine? Didn't the objectivists have a point? Obviously there is a bit of a sore spot for sociopaths, but if you're going to design a system, it's probably best to focus on the rules rather than the exceptions.
It's not just perfectly resonable to be an atheist. It's not just rational. it doesn't mean one is an animal in any derogatory sense. But we are Animals. Far from as perfectly suited to our environments as the Crocodile or Cock Roach, as Natural Selection no longer properly acts on the species, and yet we are graced with mind. Some moreso than others. The social animal makes a compact based on honor, not becasue his religion tells him to, but becasue he wants to get somewhere in his dealings with others. Atheism can lead to nihilism, when the individual fails to make his own meaning and purpose. Beyond that, however, is a desire to maximize the one life you have, accepting that we truly are mortal in the most final sense.
That their logic was flawed doesn't invalidate the point that thousands die every day of poverty, but to pray for worldly possessions or improvement in one's lot in life is the religious practice of a child and not at all the way I understand the function of prayer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tGuJ34062s
This is where you lost me:
"To whom did they pray".
Like I mentioned earlier everyone thinks they are right. Where is the proof? God didn't write the bible, man did. Next thing you will tell me is that dinosaurs never existed.
I totally disagree with you. But that's ok I don't care for communism either.
How did you make the leap from poverty and praying to dinosaurs? You need to take a course in logic. It will really help you to put together a cohesive argument.
For the record, I do believe that dinosaurs existed, though for the life of me I cannot see the link. Maybe that's the 'missing link" you've been waiting to discover?
There is a trend in the gaps in the fossil record... hint: over time they're not expanding. Aside from the fact that a paradox of any theory doesn't give rise to a presumption in god... so I'm not sure where you're going with that one.
You missed my point. I'm not arguing about dinos. I'm pointing out there is a huge GAP in rsnobles 'logic', and rather than fill it in, he jumped to another off-topic.
It's something like, oh, I don't know, maybe ... a sense of humour?
There is a huge gap between his major/minor premise and his conclusions against prayer. I was not even arguing that "prayer works" (that's a whole different debate). I pointed out to him that his assertion that it doesn't was not proved by his statement.
It's too bad that so many here only want to spout their opinions without the desire to think critically as to what that opinion is founded upon and to hear a reasoned arguement that may disagree.
Thanks Deo Vindice, you are correct.. there are a lot folks on here that would do well in studying the basic of logic.. You get a thumbs up from me
It's great to point out peoples' follies... it's greater to offer something fruitful in response...
Ok...here is something fruitful!
For those ZH readers having trouble with understanding basic logic in arguments, I have book suggestion:
http://www.amazon.com/Logic-The-Basics-Jc-Beall/dp/0415774993
Everyone knows those dinosaur bones were planted just to test our Faith.....
Well, I guess that makes me a non-entity as I didn't know that. (I've heard that, but I didn't know that).
Anyone believing that is dangerous--they could justify anything.
No. He just wanted to see how you would explain them away.
No, they're just the bits that were left over! Just like the broken tiles found around a newly built house.
No, they were just God's first ideas but then He got some better ideas.
No, He put them there so we could end up with a couple of years supply of oil a few million years later. Notice how He put most of it in the Middle East? You hoped you could ignore that region but nooooooo, He gave you something to think about. "Ha! Solve that one!!!", He sez.
:P
Any of these gods have Tacitus writing about them as a neutral observer?? Jesus is the only one with a historical written record established by his putatative enemies, who's the rube?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ
Prayer flunks all around, whether people knew they were being prayed for or not. Those prayed for actually had more heart complications and problems.
"In another of the study's findings, a significantly higher number of the patients who knew that they were being prayed for — 59 percent — suffered complications, compared with 51 percent of those who were uncertain."
"The study also found that more patients in the uninformed prayer group — 18 percent — suffered major complications, like heart attack or stroke, compared with 13 percent in the group that did not receive prayers. In their report, the researchers suggested that this finding might also be a result of chance."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
excellent post Blazed....
If one really wanted to be honest about his prayers, then he should pray (and ask others to pray) for his quick and painless demise, as soon as possible. What incentive would there be to stay on this shithole when heaven awaits? In fact, it might even provide insight into the sincerity of many who claim to be believers...
Amen Machoman!! Too many believers want a genie in a bottle! You just qouted scripture and may not have even known it!
"For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain...having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better" (Philip. 1:21-23).
For those of us that draft for a living, this is called "closing a loophole" or "maintaining internal consistency." If the good book had too many holes, it would be difficult for anyone to partake... of course, that doesn't lend any credibility...
Thanks VD.
Now that isn't to say prayer, wishful thinking, posititve thinking, etc, couldn't be useful for those doing the praying, as it may help one lower anxiety and stress, at least temporarily, but it still doesn't fundamentally change an external physical situation or problem. Basically, it could change the neural/emotive reaction to a problem, like stress response.
This is just DEMONSTRATIVE of the Press not understanding MATH or Statistics.
Statistical SIGNIFICANCE means that there is a CORRELATION
Let's use some CRITICAL ANALYSIS..which you consistently seem to lack, VD.
In another of the study's findings, a significantly higher number of the patients who knew that they were being prayed for — 59 percent — suffered complications, compared with 51 percent of those who were uncertain."
"The study also found that more patients in the uninformed prayer group --18 percent -- suffered major complications, like heart attack or stroke, compared with 13 percent in the group that did not receive prayers. In their report, (sic) the researchers suggested that this finding might also be a result of chance."
So the article states a significance and then contradicts itself by declaring that there was not significance as the results "...might also be a result of chance."
And you are so fucking STUPID that you buy it??? LMAO at YOU, VD. You are such a fucking idiot.
They're just going to go on SS disability...it's the safety net's safety net, don't you know? Look for diagnoses of "crippling depression" to rise (even more) in 2014. Diagnosis deviations from norm will probably correlate to the LFPR.
You know what happens to CONSUMERS who through "crippling depression" cause a strain on the system don't you? Soylant Green I tell ya, just like George B Shaw used to opine, if you can't justify your existance to the State every five years you should be euthanized.
unfortunatly you are probably right. being depressed from not finding a job wil be a disability. Long big-pharma. get these poor depressed people some happy pills....
to say nothing of being morbidly obese from sitting watching TV all day. That's really depressing, and makes it hard to get hired as well.
As these programs come under more scrutiny and budget constraints, I'd say the opposite will happen... tack on changes in the DSM and diagnosing criteria combined with a few high profile ethics actions against practitioners and all the pressure is to the downside.
America can come to its knees or be brought to its knees.
I understand the cost is 25 Billion over 3 months!
Bernanke is dropping 85 Billion a MONTH in keeping Bankers, Private Equity, Traders EMPLOYED!!!
Who is YOUR DADDY?
ROLL THE ROPES!
I am and I say this isn't going to end well!!
DaddyO
The lamposts are waiting...
I'll believe that when I see it. The French revolutionaries were lean, hungry people who discussed and organized their revolutionary activities in the wine clubs of Paris. The Americans you think will rise up are obese, drug-addled, video screen obsessed people who only want to sit on their couch all day and stuff their faces with hot pockets.
You don't think the ranks will get leaner as everyone has to cook their own meals, exercise to stay healthy because they can't afford doctors, and generally have to perform their own maintenance and work functions around their homes, etc.?
And 25/85 x X/30 = x days
I am teaching every single homeless and unemployed person that I know how to build bombs.
Bombs are much less expensive than guns. Who needs a gun?
http://terminalcornucopia.com/#weapons
The economy has been out of a recession for more than four years said Chris Edwards?
WTF is this guy smoking? The economy has been in a depression for more than 13 years. Welcome to part time America, where the full time workers have to sign up for public assistance.
Remember, it's not a lie if YOU believe it. <George Costanza>
You can't have it both ways. Democrats continue to boast about all the jobs they created since Obama took office. Yet when it comes to Unemployment benefits, then suddenly the economy sucks. Which is it? We both know it sucks but then why did the Obama government say the recession ended four years ago? If we didn't have all those Obama regulations that have been put on business then perhaps more folks would be finding jobs. But I also think that after receiving benefits for almost two years, you better get off your lazy ass and start to look for something. Obama made it too easy by saying folks didn't have to prove their looking for work to receive benefits. Another thing to consider, I'd bet that most of those 1.3 Million are also receiving food stamps and perhaps other welfare benefits. America is becoming a welfare state. Heck thats what got Obozo reelected. Millions of folks on welfare and food stamps and don't forget those Obama phones. Wouldn't want to lose all those goodies now so you better vote for Santa Obama.
-1 for ignorantly perpetuating the left vs right meme. You are a tool of TPTB. Good job.
That the left cultivates a welfare clientele is not a "meme", it's a fact. Since you apparently take pride in being a realist, you might as well acknowledge that bit of reality.
Whenever I read these stories I can't help but think of Ross Perot.
... And we all laughed at his ears. Who's laughing now?
"That sucking sound you hear will be the sound of middle class jobs leaving the country, and they wont be coming back" Ross perot on the passage of NAFTA (probably not the exact quote, but close enough)
I voted for Perot. Felt kind of silly about it after the fact when the UFO incident and other smears were rolled out by the media.
Meh, you should all move to the UK, everyone else is. Free housing, health service and monthly pay cheque for all immigrants. You don't even have to worry about being made to take a menial low paid job, the eastern Europeans have first dibs on those.
"Free."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/nhs/10531183/NHS-on-brink-of-crisis-because-it-became-too-powerful-to-criticise.html
Who is Chris Edwards...never heard of him.....MUST NOT be important!
Did anyone really believe they could hide the bread lines forever? Long live what's his name...
I dont think they are hiding them, as i mentioned below, they are everywhere, they have just moved from the streets where they are obvious, to walmarts, where they pay with what appears to be a normal credit/debit card
Most on unemployment just want work. Maybe something that pays a honest days' wage for a honest days' work? None of the market manipulation or stealing old ladies' pensions.
I would agree with what you wrote with a correction "Most on unemployment want to work at the same or better job than they had". Problem is for a lot of people a comparable job to what they had may not be available to them or may not even exist anymore. Understandably, a lot of people don't want to lower their horizons by taking a lower paying, lower skilled job, but in many cases it's a choice between that or unemployment.
I think that's a distinction without a difference... the person's former job is likely what developed their feelings as to what a fair day's pay is for an honest day of work. The issue is that wages aren't a function of how productive the work is or how valuable it is to the employer, rather wages are based on how difficult it is to replace the employee. It isn't an issue of simply lowering expectations... so long as you can stay alive doing it, refusal to enrich others is a valid form of protest. You're already seeing it from the younger generations who see the system for what it is... a giant grinder. It's simply spreading to other folks too.
I just got done talking to God about people praying to Him to get them a job. He was sympathetic, but told me he was back-logged and could not help them at this time.
Really? Most people trying to talk to God get a 404 Error. Or "Our website is having temporary technical troubles due to unanticipated high volumes. Please visit again another time."
What? I thought I read and heard that jobs were being created left and right so why would they need this continuation?
If the country has been out of recession for more than four years and no longer in emergency situation why oh why is the Fed still doing QE for so long???
Rhetorical I know!
this will be intresting. I want to hear one person that gets mainstream attention throw this back in the faces of those on left who applaud our 'recovery' yet at the same time say we still need 2 FUCKING YEARS of unemployment benefits. On what fucking planet do you live when we now have a 'vibrant economy' where we can also have millions needing unemployment benefits for that long. Both of those things cant be true. The only reason this isnt blatantly obvious to even the average dumbass is that bread and soup lines have now moved off the streets and into walmart with their EBT cards.
Precisely. Replacing bread and soup lines with direct-deposit was the most clever thing TPTB have come up with in a very long time. If all these people saw how many of them there are in any one place, there'd have been riots already.