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Italy's Pitchfork Movement Slammed For "Delirious" Nazi-Like Comments
Italy's anti-austerity Pitchfork movement, who described Italy as being "enslaved by wealthy Jewish bankers," has come under fire for "shamelessly recall[ing] a historical period characterised by death, violence and denial of the most elementary rights." The nation's Jewish community, writing in La Repubblica, said the Pitchfork leader's remarks demonstrate a "deeper sense of discomfort" fuelled by "the most violent and grimmest anti-Semitic stereotypes". Despite Italian stock and bond markets surging to multi-year highs, IB Times notes that mass demonstrations continue to rile the company's economy as Pitchfork followers demand the total removal of the ruling political class.
Italy's Jewish communities have hit back at the spokesman of the anti-austerity Pitchfork movement, who described Italy as being "enslaved by wealthy Jewish bankers".
The Pitchfork protestors' spokesman, Andrea Zunino, who made the anti-Semitic comments, represents thousands of demonstrators who took to the streets in towns and cities across Italy to voice anger at austerity measures.
Renzo Gattegna, representing the Jewish community, said the words were "delirious".
"[Those words] shamelessly recall a historical period characterised by death, violence and denial of the most elementary rights," he told daily La Repubblica.
Conspiracy theories regarding Jews and banking were popular during the rise of National Socialism and the Nazis.
Earlier, Zunino had claimed: "We want government resignation. We want sovereignty over Italy which is now the slave of bankers, like the Rothschild: it is odd that five or six among the world's richest people are Jews."
The Pitchfork movement, which started with a loose group of Sicilian farmers concerned about rising taxes and cuts to agricultural state funds, has evolved into a nationwide umbrella grouping of truckers, small businessman, the unemployed, low-paid workers, rightwing extremists and football supporters.
Zunino cites Hungary's controversial premier Viktor Orban, whose government has been accused of being weak in fighting rising anti-Semitism, as his role model.
But Gattegna said the Pitchfork leader's remarks demonstrate a "deeper sense of discomfort" fuelled by "the most violent and grimmest anti-Semitic stereotypes".
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Thousands of Pitchfork demonstrators, riled by the country's struggling economy, have demanded the total removal of the ruling political class, as well as calling for tax cuts, lowered fuel prices, and dumping the euro.
Mass demonstrations threw some Italian cities into chaos on Monday with police officers using teargas on protesters who had been throwing rocks and bottles at the headquarters of Italy's tax collection agency.
Roadblocks, demonstrations and sit-ins continued from Milan to Bari in the south.
Shop-owners were reportedly threatened by demonstrators to either close their stores and join the protest, or face violence.
Of course, we have discussed the rise of social unrest and its linkages to austerity in the past but perhaps it is the huge gap between markets and high earner wealth and the struggling-with-record-unemployment working class that has fuelled the problems in Italy to this point.
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The Indians of the new world were conquired, cleansed and enslaved by a non-Jewish, non-muslim Spain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Spain
1492 was an interesting year.
This is the problem with wiki anything. Where did those sephardic jews go? Holland and England. Who colonized North America? The jews came herre and immediately involved themselves in the slave trade. Read history. It helps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_history_in_Colonial_America
Not quite.
Try "The Grandees" by Stephen Birmingham. Wiki? Really?
After Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain expelled all the Jews from their lands, Spain became the first global Superpower.
re: "Spain"
Marranos, Conversos, Cryptos...
re: "The Indians of the new world were conquired, cleansed and enslaved by a non-Jewish, non-muslim Spain."
What is the obsession with Italy of Late?
Nothing is amiss over there, nothing to see here, move along.
Bankers
Bankers
Bankers
Bankers
Banking is the problem and there are lots and lots of bankers who are not jews. Are we really going to have this deflected by retards yet again?
Bingo... bankers who aren't Jews and Jews who aren't bankers. But mouth breathers need red meat.
Jews are going to be 'overrepresented' in politics, entertainment, and business because the average Jew has a 15 point IQ advantage over the average caucasian. They've been careful (at least until the latter half of the 20th century) to intermarry, so this potent intellect has remained pure. Intermarriage is a reflection in part of Jews' social cohesion; they are often unashamed to say that they prefer the company and business of other Jews. Look at them as really smart whites who still have some sense of racial consciousness. Their only real disadvantages are the vehemence of their enemies and their tiny numbers.
Because there is no Non-Jew smart enough to do the FED job. See goyim, only a Jew can print like crazy. And only a Jew like Paul Krugman can cheer it on. You goyim would fail in this high IQ endeavour.
What a ridiculous statement. They are over-represented because they have bought the government with central banking and control entertainment, thus making sure they control these important areas. Their "intellect" is no more potent than anyone elses. In fact, the jews remain the Chinese triad's bitches.
They are able to function as both psychopaths and sociopaths, with relief from their religion. I see them as the scum of the earth, incapable of higher civilization and a drag on all of humanity. Maybe, it is their slave mentality for all races but their own. They are the only group I can identify where humanity would be better without their contribution to diversity.
Drop dead and make the world a better place.
I see those 15 IQ points have kicked in...
They're in reserve for when I need 'em. In fact I shut my brain all the way down when I come here, just to make it even.
>>>>so this potent intellect has remained pure
Pure as Tay Sachs
Where did you get that 15 point IQ Advantage?
http://www.amerika.org/darwinism/iq-and-the-wealth-of-nations/
More:
Sephardic Jews tend to be very dumb, with IQ's around 91.
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/2006%20PAID%20bk%20rev.pdf
In some countries 91 is thought of as retarded
Worldwide, Ashkenazi (IQ 105) are 60% of Jew current pop. and 40% are Sephardim ( IQ 91). IQ 98 would be 50/50 split. 105 minus 91 times is a 14 pt difference. 60% of the difference is 8.4 pts. So the Sephardic worldwide of IQ 91 plus 8.4 pts gives IQ 99.4 worldwide avg. of ALL Jews.
99.4 IQ wordwide is still below US or Euro whites: http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=68978
And how do you compare Sephardic 91pts to those guys:
1 Hjalmar Schacht 143
2 Arthur Seyss-Inquart 141
3 Hermann Goering 138
4 Karl Doenitz 138
5 Franz von Papen 134
6 Eric Raeder 134
7 Dr. Hans Frank 130
8 Hans Fritsche 130
9 Baldur von Schirach 130
10 Joachim von Ribbentrop 129
11 Wilhelm Keitel 129
12 Albert Speer 128
13 Alfred Jodl 127
14 Alfred Rosenberg 127
15 Constantin von Neurath 125
16 Walther Funk 124
17 Wilhelm Frick 124
18 Rudolf Hess 120
19 Fritz Sauckel 118
20 Ernst Kaltenbrunner 113
21 Julius Streicher 106
You definitely should have not started this tread. We are all are very concerned about future. About our children. We do not want war. We do not want ghettos, anymore. Ghetto is not the solution even if it worked for thousands of years.
re: "caucasion" and "the average Jew has a 15 point IQ advantage over the average caucasian."
Caucasus...Khazars...13th Tribe - The original caucasians.
Smarter...or just more ruthless?
What the fuck is wrong with the truth?
It's generally not profitable.
Well doesn't matter what religion folks who control the printing machines are... only their ideology... those folks are not jews, they are sick bastards.
Four out of six of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors are jewish, plus the Secretary of the Treasury, but who is counting?
Plus 3 ouf of 9 on the Supreme Court. And all voted for Obama Care. We better stop.
jon Corzine, Hank Paulson, Dick Fuld, John Thain, Ken Lewis, Ken thompson, Charles Davis, Naryana Kocherlacota, eric Reosengren. You want more, you ignorant fu$k?
More what? Ignorant about what?
He said, "who control the printing machines are... not jews." I was correcting him on a point of fact.
Yeah lost me there
Abe, Draghi, Obama, Dimon, Bullard, every PM of Italy and Spain and Greece and in fact every counrty who ran up the debt that had to be printed in order to win the next election... All Jews, right?
Kind of silly. Who do you think bought all of those politicians seats? You are either naive or biased
that is slightly unrepresentive of the general population. can i approach the FED HR department and complain about their apparent lack of diversity.
AND NO I AM NOT JOKING.
In a country with a Jewish minority? No. Never. They are just lucky and won the lottery, right?
Well, they're doctrine is certainly not "love your neighbor as yourself."
Whoa...wait...what?
You mean Ahavat Yisrael doesn't mean they are to be nice to everyone???
I suspect you are a racist.
Spending is a party, repayment is the hangover.
There is a phrase for that, it's called "In Debt We Trust"
If we go looking for scapegoats again we get played again. Crony bastards and corruption don't belong to any particular race, it's a flawed human condition...probably will end up making us extinct if don't quickly vanquish it.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled is to make the world believe he didn't exist.
A good criminal always has a bag man. A guilty person always tries to deflect blame onto someone else.
The greatest trick the banker ever pulled was to make you believe they gave you a loan, which they did not........its just an accounting trick to steal your labor thru the interest payment.........
Money is created on your signature.
The big trick is to convince people that the banks have any money to lend.
So, when you sign a loan agreement YOU MAKE THE MONEY, the bank doesn't, but they claim to have the right to charge interest on the money YOU MADE.
The other good question to ponder is 'where does the interest come from'
Too big a subject for me to deal with here, so you'll have to do your own research on this. It's worth the effort.
''Fiats' march toward zero is unabated. The interest on today's debt doesn't exist, man; it HAS to be printed. The type of en masse repudiation that money-supply-consuming deflation will cause will render the values of debts worthless. PAPER claims will be worthless and that is what the FRN is.''
trav7777 ZH 2010
Free Francis Sawyer!!!!
what happened to him? I miss his tirades.
He spoke the truth.
This is fight-club right?
SO how about a little thought experiment?
Why is TRUTH Forbidden on ZH?
Why is SNIDE allowed forever?
Why will truthiness get you banned and all your posts deleted?, but daily insult and meaningless ramble will never get your deleted on this forum? Just asking?
Why do the same trolls remain here for years, yet real people, last only weeks?
Banned.
vanned?
why is he still banned?
At my annual Holiday dinner with my dad and his friends, they even joke he is their pet Goy, one of them made the proclamation that after thousands of years the Jews finally control the world. They said the Jews control all money, the government, and the entire legal system. No matter what you do in life you will have to pay a Jew.
My dad said, "Yeah, and you've done such a fine job with it haven't you."
If you are close enough to some rich Jews, they will tell you everything. Kind of the part of the Illuminati conspiracy that they must present all their plans for the world to see. The closer you are to the source of all corruption the more you realize there is nothing you can do to stop it.
"... nothing you can do to stop it."
Yes there is. Physical Resource Constraints.
I admit, adr, I've heard people make the comments you describe.
However, if you are close enough to some rich connected Americans or Europeans, they will also tell you everything - how they will englighten and save the society. They must present their plans for all the world to see because they want others to believe in it.
My point is only that those people who do have control of money, government, and the legal system are indeed either complicit or straight up-self serving. That many Jews hold those positions only indicates that they have done well enough in the US society to be able to choose that way. It says nothing about "Jews". It's not like other groups are "turning down" the chance to cheat and make money because of their identity. There are other ethnic power establishments, too. Each group thinks they have it all and it's usually the weaker ones that actually have to talk about it. There is nothing Jewish about the governments and financial organizations controlling things, other than a number of folks whose families were Jewiish. Their history (not always a [pleasamt one) of self-reliance resulted in a strong network that today has left them in strong positions or service to those who really control things.
Let's keep our eyes on the right bad guys and not get misdirected by Europe's traditional distraction from real liberatory change.
"The Pitchfork movement, which started with a loose group of Sicilian farmers concerned about rising taxes and cuts to agricultural state funds, has evolved into a nationwide umbrella grouping of truckers, small businessman, the unemployed, low-paid workers, rightwing extremists and football supporters."
Gee, more or less the same group of people that Hitler found support with. Everything repeats itself, "nichts neues unter der Sonne".
And yes, a disprotortionate amount of the most wealthy banker are in fact Jewish. Not that the non-Jewish bankers are any better though.
A united Germany will quell the despair and fears.
I call upon the race-baiting nature of this article for a seance, a reach beyond the grave to raise a lost soul. A soul who was erased, but not forgotten, driven by his lust for racial and ethnic stereotyping into that dark void that many Zerohedgers fear, the deletion on his account, and all comments from the now PC comments section.
I call upon the misspellings of jew, jews, jooz, jooz, j_ws, J**ws, of central bankers, of allegations of American military spending to defend a small, unnamed, country that borders the city of Jerusalem, technical definitions of being a jew, rare words describing jews in specific places.
I call upon all of the vague anti-Semitic energy brought forth by the charged, tempting, race comment baiting power of this article to raise the voice of the ghost of Frances Sawyer.
Frances Sawyer come forth, and let your presence be known!
"We want sovereignty over Italy which is now the slave of bankers, like the Rothschild:"
SO, They are coming out and using the "R" word.
They coulda/shoulda just dropped the "Jewish" and went with the "R" et al
The "Official" backlash would have been the same.
I do not think this is about Jewish bankers. That unecessarily restricts the discussion. What we should be talking about is the religion of money who's number one belief is the love of money and the destruction of man in order to get more of it.
If being Jewish has nothing to do with it, than why does the head of the FED HAS to be a Jew.
Or do you believe in 30 year long coincidences.
For how many years was the president Christian during the history of the US? Are you really as daft as you seem? Maybe you should examine education statistics, majors by religion, look for actual causes for your suspicions rather than making assumptions with elementary logic.
Uh, I would challenge that Ronald Regan, GB1&2, Bill Clinton, and Barak-so-wack-you-cant-keep-your-plan-Obama are all non-christians. They all had track records that say otherwise, just to think about.
And (to bunz) what percentage of the population is christian vs jewish? You have to be christian or at least profess to be to get that voting block. Apples and oranges.
And, mathematically, even if the average jew is in the top 2% intellectually there are still 49 times as many non jews in the us. You should end up with roughly equal numbers of jews and non jews in top banking positions but you don't. I'm not among the jew haters, I know a lot of jews who are great, warm, honest people. I can still see strange coincidences though. And, unfortunately, I think the innocent jews will pay for the crimes of the connected powerful, criminal jews.
Just cause you're smart enough to know all jews aren't bad doesn't mean you have to defend the guilty too.
Volker wasn't Jewish.. there have been plenty goy Fed heads.
uhm, check your facts again then report back. you need to learn how to work the google on the internet machine.
correlation =/= causation
Is it anti-semitism if it's true? As ever, the guy wasn't slamming the religion, he was pointing out a factual common thread that points to collusion. It's bigoted and discrimnatory of central bankers to exert generational economic hardship upon all the little people under their control who are not like them.
I don't even think most of those guys are practicing religious jews anyway. They're "Jewish-Italians" with no national loyalties who are free to act like sociopaths because their many were scattered over the Earth long ago.
At least there had been alot of Jews selling junk in Rome.
http://www.ejpress.org/article/23279
And that's just on one streetcorner.
And there was I thinking Judaism was a religion, not a race.
Silly me.
Most Jews in Israel are not even religious but atheist.
Fail.
I didn't say anything about Israelis.
No, you were saying something about which you know nothing about or have been fooled.
Go back to your sheep, please.
They are on your intelectual level.
That hurts coming from someone like you.
Apologies, I never intend to hurt.
I was just being what my name implies.
If they are atheists, they aren't Jews.
I don't think you've thought things through carefully, based on what you typed. I could probably have put it better.
Not all 'Jews' are Judaists. 'Jew' can refer to ethnicity, or religion.
The tricksy bit is that if you are a 'certified' practising Judaist, you magically become ethnically Jewish. The same if your mother is ethnically Jewish.
This is why, if you go to a site like Haaretz, half the adverts show 'Jews' looking distinctly Caucasian. Ethnically, most 'Jews' are not full or even half Semitic.
Zionism is a classic 'us and them' scam. Tell just enough people that they are 'one of the tribe' and are entitled to come over and steal someone else's land... on the understanding they'll help defend the land the rest of the tribe have already stolen.
in addition to crypto-jew, it's more complicated than this:
because there's this:
https://dydymskiwojciech.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/the-khazarian-connection/
no shepherd, you failed. this has been the question for centuries. you see - there is only ONE 'religion' on earth that does not proselytize - hebrew.
(that's a big word for a shepherd, - here give this a shot - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize )
If your mother is not a jew, you are not a jew. so, is it a religion or a tribe? I hope you check this out, because it will help explain what the real problems are.
i was going to go a bit deeper into this, but you can start there.
my own beliefs are that if the jews were to open up the temples, and tell anybody that wanted to join, that they could, then a lot of the problems would go away. but, they have consistently refused to do that, and like any club that continues to insist that YOU CAN NOT JOIN NO MATTER WHAT, they are going to create problems for themselves.
Judaism is a religion, race, culture, system of laws, tribe, and virtual nation.
The Vatican and its leadership has fallen well short of the Christian ideal on many an occasion as well so religion has nothing to do with it.
I believe what is riling the people is the incongruity between a surging stock market on the one hand and an increasingly poor electorate on the other. There is something wrong when the two ends of society are getting further apart.
There will always be a gap between rich and poor but what we are witnessing in Italy, the USA and other places is tempting fate.
I was in Rome with my wife in 2010 as part of our tour. The tour guide was a aristocratic looking man in his 60's.
During the tour someone asked him how many churches there were in Rome.
He replied in Englsih with a very Italian accent: "There are more than 900 churches in Rome. Not so many Christians but 900 churches."
..... and football supporters.
LOL!
Ah yes, where there's a fight, you can count on the football supporters. Those are the guys standing around and asking why they are there. Free brews is usually a satisfactory answer
these pitchfucks are just trying to get people riled up; seems to be working
Something better work.
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Calm down and try to use your brains w74.
government is a bigger problem than the banks.
banks cannot surive on their own without government to protect them and bail them out and give them legitimacy.
if you get rid of government banks would be gone in a few days.
I think you have it backwards.
The banks run the governments.
You are completely wrong.
None of this shit would be happening if government didn't exist.
A Central Bank in an anarchic society? Don't make me laugh.
It worked in Libya.
If you think there's some major difference between the banks and our political elite you're deluded.
Cheesepopes and usury go together like a horse and carriage. Pogroms only make them stronger - turn away from the unwholesome behaviour that cheesepopes thrive on.
Frank?
could be...........
Well, this has been a nice little stroll through hell.
sssssss-troll
;->
No doubt.
I think HH nailed it above, its always someone elses (skin color/religion/ethnicity etc.) fault...besides the fucking statist progs who always enable it.
Nmewn I think you are Jewish and libertarian and not a troll. All humans are full of shit and all humans, Jews included, are children of God. Its just that Jews are better at being full of shit than the rest of us. They are also good at valuable things, von Mises is my greatest hero. There is a cultural tribal affinity so strong in the Jewish community that they are a nation onto themself no matter where they are. This mixed with high rabbi superiority belief and Jewish cooperation in the use of their temporal skills makes them an effective cutout to be deployed by elitist forces. There will and should be a backlash. It should never degenerate to the level of what happened in Germany. Temperance in the face of extreme provocation is needed from each goyim and authentic truth seeking needed from each Jew to eventually redress this Jewish question without it becoming a massive tragedy. Only truth can help us all now and only harsh NON VIOLENT criticism can help us all muddle our way to the truth. In this age of communication trying to muzzle people is only going to enrage them further and lead to violence if non violent solutions are systematically blocked. The goyim might be daft much of the time but let me assure you there are very many of us who wish to be neither slave nor slaver.
Debt slavery is a choice.
steriotypes exist for a reason... they are true.
there is a reason the jews have been kicked out of every place that they have ever been and its not because of their religion.
look around, you wont have to look very far and remember.
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -VoltaireInteresting that the number 6,000,000 pre-dates WW2 - research it and make your own judgement
It's hard to believe people still fall for that goofy six million nonsense.
It is hateful and antisemenetic to criticize jews. Besides it's illegal and you can go to jail for it. Now go say six Hail Marys and two Our Fathers as your penance.
So here I am hours later and like I said, lots of Jew-bashing but no Italian jewish bankers named. You all act like you're so smart and informed but no facts, just whines and drivel.
Down arrow me all you want but like I said there's nearly two hundred comments and not one of them names a jewish Italian banker, you know the subject of the story.
idiot. re "subject of the story": quote
your rant:
here you go:
Rothschild
Via Santa Radegonda 8
20121 Milano
Italy
Tel: +39 02 7244 31
Fax: +39 02 7244 3310
http://www.rothschild.com/contactus/
...happy now?
Yup. Sure sounds Italian!!!!
This thread ain't nuthin' but shit and neither are most of its commenters.
That's a very insightful comment Andy? How long did it take you to come up with it?
How many nations have the Jews been tossed out of? 109?
Has anyone ever bothered putting 2+2 together?
... and after expelling the Jews, they all prospered!
Oh yeh... I already heard all about this on Lame Stream media in the US. It's all over the TeeVee every night.
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel…Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi [meaning lord or master] and eat,” he said to some laughter."
Chief Rabbi Ovadia Yosef-OCTOBER 2010
Yes, that's how Jew hatered starts: inventing quotes and facts to smear Jews.
Jews aren't just disproportionately successful bankers - they are disproportionately successful in most professional fields.
The Jew haters around here are getting hopelessly outnumbered by rapidly growing Christians Untied For Israel. Unconditional friends of Jews, this has never happened in history: www.cufi.org
Nigel Farage has long been predicting this kind of rabid nationalism as an inevitable danger to southern Europe arising from the iron fist of the EU regime and its precious currency. The question remains whether it will be civil society or the Euro which is first to fail.
is this a honey pot post to herd more to be banned?
Well, not only.
So let's just recap here sports fans.
1) It's ok to go after your average run of the mill generic banker (Occupy clowns).
2) It's ok to go after your run of the mill blue eyed and blond haired banker( Brazilian Lula clown).
3) But it's not ok to go after your run of the mill Jewish banker.
So where does that leave us?
It leaves us knowing where the line is drawn.
PS Thank God (with capital G) that there are still something sacred these days. :(
Bullshit. First, your generic bankers immediately become Jews once any hatred comes up. Second, Occupy did a walking tour of bankers residences and all they did was go after Jewish residences.
So what does this guy want then? Mussolini back?
It are idiots like this one who sabotage citizens' movements.
Zionism is the problem. All zionists are jews,but all Jews are certainly NOT zionists.
Many jewish people despise zionists,and all they stand for.
This distinction is important to understand,because the zionist ploy of playing the anti-semitic card,
will begin to become unstuck once enough recognize the distintion.
you need to acquire more knowledge before commenting next time:
How do you spell "tool"?
..recognize the distinction.
"Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade" -Rabbi Marc Raphael
So did many black African tribal leaders, at least regarding OTHER tribes' members.
So what?