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China Plans To Seize South China Sea Island From Philippines, Says "Battle Will Be Restricted"
Following Japan's proclamations that it will take over another 280 'disputed ownership' islands, it appears the increasingly dis-approved of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's path of militarism and provocation is working. As China Daily Mail reports, citing experts, China intends to take back Zhongye Island - 'illegally' occupied by the Philippines, according to the Chinese. The Chinese navy has drawn a detailed combat plan to seize the island and the battle will be restricted within the South China Sea. Philippines military is building up on the island and the Chinese see as 'intolerable' the "arrogance" relying on US support. It seems the Obama administration may have to 'not take sides' in another fight soon.
Background on the build-up...
Eugenio Bito-onon Jr, mayor of the Kalayaan island group, part of the contested Spratly islands administered by the Philippines, recently confirmed that the Western Command of the Armed Forces of the Philippines has deployed new air force troops in rotation to the disputed island of Thitu, according to Jaime Laude in a report for the Manila-based Philippine Star on Jan. 5.
Known as Pag-asa in the Philippines and Zhongye island by both China and Taiwan, Thitu is the second largest in the Spratly island chain in the South China Sea and the largest of all Philippine-occupied Spratly islands.
Laude said that the air force troops were deployed to Thitu island by naval aircraft, which will give the residents of the island a chance to visit Kalayaan aboard the returning plane. He added that China's maritime expansion into the South China Sea continues to put pressure on the Philippines, and the Philippine Navy have also been stationed in the area to defend the islands.
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Six countries - Taiwan, China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei — claim in whole or part to the South China Sea and its island chains and shoals.
And the Latest Tensions...
Via China Daily Mail (translated from Chinese media),
Relying on US support, the Philippines is so arrogant as to announce in the New Year that it will increase its navy and air force deployment at Zhongye Island, a Chinese island that it has illegally occupied for years.
It will be an intolerable insult to China
According to experts, the Chinese navy has drawn a detailed combat plan to seize the island and the battle will be restricted within the South China Sea.
The battle is aimed at recovery of the island stolen by the Philippines from China.
There will be no invasion into Filipino territories.
A report in the Philippines Star confirmed the Philippines military buildup on the island.
Source: qianzhan.com “Sudden major move of Chinese troops this year to recover Zhongye Island by force”
Of course, claims that "battle will be restricted" are nothing but taunting and should China launch an offsensive here, we suspect the already dry and brittle tinder box in the South (and East) China Sea could rapidly escalate.
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I believe "restricted battle" is Chinese for "and you go f_ck yourself too, Oreo cookie!"
It's not "defense" if the islands don't belong to the Phillippines in the first place. That's why the PRC propaganda is so careful to state that they won't invade Filipino territory. Note I'm not siding with the PRC on the territory dispute, just stating that there is a loophole if BO wants to use it.
a loophole that they themsleves have defined and created
look at the map
doesnt the usa have some indian treaties, too?
Very astute, Lao. In fact, they do; and, they've adhered to them rather scrupulously for a couple decades; in the US:
"The Supremacy Clause is the provision in Article Six of the United States Constitution, Clause 2, that establishes the U.S. Constitution, federal statutes, and U.S. treaties as "the supreme law of the land." The text provides that these are the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state."
The Native American Nations are Sovereign Entities in the US, and thus enjoy special treaty rights and privileges, which the Nations often enforce in Court and in actual battle.
To abrogate a Treaty is Not Done. It would be like using a shotgun to play Cricket.
Theatrics to keep the mindless chinese slaves working to make more iPhones. The yellow man has too much to lose to right now, perhaps in five years they will re-take the islands after the dollar collapses.
Those factory workers are gonna have to eat those iPhones if there is an embargo.
That would put a dent in apples earnings.
What type of wine goes well with an iPad entree?
What's so special about these bullshit islands? China just wants an excuse to actually use it' Military?
Nat gas and oil. The Keynesian loons and money printers put a squeeze on energy costs. So we got war coming, not Obama's and Bush's distraction wars with rag tag bandits and poorly trained Islamic nut-cases, proper stand up fights i.e World Wars
Do you think China would stand toe to toe with the US? Probably not. Cyber and economic war will happen prior to any hot war. China has a few simple ways to gut punch the US first.
A gold manipulation story straight from the PBC, or becoming net sellers of treasuries, or trade sanctions of some sort. There are lots of things that they can do. Sun Tzo wouldn't allow them to attack where the US is strong.
Actually, this move by China is more directly aimed at the US than the Japan/China sniff. Japan has a well-armed Navy/AF and can hold its own against China (sans nukes) without US involvement (and the Chinese know that). The Philippines are mostly dependent on the US for anything beyond coastal waters. The US can not avoid involvement in this one without scaring all of its regional allies/puppets.
The Jap AF looks quite tough as depicted here....
http://m.imgur.com/v8tlJpk
Of course. China will sell a huge portion of their UST holdings, create chaos, internal. You could cripple essential services, finance services very easily. This is the thing, Obama knows this as does the Fed, that the Fed could have a significant write-down on it's holdings and pay the goverment less. They have written about it, albeit a small discussion. But it's a weak point that could be massively effected. Which means military gets paid less, now, Yelland does a trillion a month of money printing, inflation to hyper inflation start will to build i.e energy costs.
Can you imagine the protests and internal strife that will follow. The Chinese aren't stupid, but they will look for vulnerabilities ala Art of War. I would say America's economic vulnerability is it's horror show.
The Chinese aren't in great economic shape either. Can you imagine the economic impact if we were to place 200% tariffs on everything imported into the US from China? That would get inflation fired up in the US, while crippling the Chinese economy. Remember, the one thing the commie bastards running the Chinese government fear more than any foreign military is an uprising from their own citizens.
That inflation would probably piss off the Walmart army.
While the Chinese may not like their government, they like the American government even less. Nothing would soothe the angst of a bad economy for the Chinese than a fight with the US. The patriotism is deep in China, especially against the West (and Japan). Your calculations would likely cause more problems for Obama than for Xi.
I would add that the Chinese spent more than two generations under strict Marxist rule. They know how to hunker down.
The only hope for the US is a frontal attack: i.e. brute force. yea, that's going to work after China sells all of their US bills at a loss on the open market and the serfs in uniform are preoccupied with reports their family just got kicked out on the street.
In case of War with China the US Government declares the Treasuries to be Null and Void. If the USA either Wins or Loses the War the Bonds will be VALUELESS to ANY HOLDER.
Nobody on the World Market will touch them. China loses all value. They would have to dump well before any conflict. In fact if they started to dump em masse the USA will just go to War.
It will have little impact on the Domestic Front in America.
On the other hand shortage of Cinese made crap will happen. But we will be able to feed ourselves. China...well...China will have a problem with that. We will also cut off the Sea Lanes rapidly and starve them from OIL.
We have a Navy. Their Navy is Green Water and Regional. Our Navy is King of the Oceans. We will emerge victorious.
Then it will go Nuclear.
Then everyone loses.
Increase the Taper to 20 or 30 billion ($55b total a month) this could catalyze the coming Asian Crisis 2 and the crash of the EMs. China is hurt by association and the US can play it off as sound fiscal policy.
Except such impact will take 4-8 weeks to become critical, by which point the Chinese ability to project force will be eliminated.
This one worries me because it's overconfidence like this "It'll stay contained" is how large wars get started.
China is testing the waters, and building an understanding of how the US and Japan (or even the world) will react to a similar scenario. I think an military attack by China would be presaged by an economic attack.
That being said, these islands are at the far southern edge of the territorial claim so they might be a good place to start to make their claims to the whole area more legit.
PRC isn't in a position to launch an economic attack. That ship already sailed.
Go figure, look at our foreign policy and it's messengers, Kankles and the Ketchup King stumbling around the globe shitting on everyones flower beds.
The United States should not give one single, solitary fuck about this.
And it won't.
Ha! Anyone who thinks "we" should go to war with the Chinese over a tiny island on the other side of the globe is free to board a plane and go fight.
Otherwise, all you are is a chickenshit fuckin' pussy asshole thinking American Marines and soldiers should die over absolutely nothing because you have a "theory" about containing China.
Go fuck yourselves you armchair warrior cunts.
Seriously, what is with all these ignorant dumb-fucks and on ZH nonetheless? You all need to take some lessons from good ole' General Smedley Butler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
I swear to God if I have to see more American soldiers going out to die for useless shit like this...might as well name it the Department of Offense.
ZH is large enough to attract both the wise and the foolish...
as well as what really are very likely to be "paid trolls".
Still, there is a freedom of speech here and generally a level of intelligence that is hard to find on other sites. HuffPo is so bad I think one is actually in danger of becoming stupider by reading the comments there. CNN may be worst of all, particularly for any news piece involving terrorism or Israel...
Doug Stanhope has some great stuff on this general topic - sort of proxy nationalism... "we" needing to stop China...
perhaps our trolls will listen to what ol' Doug has to say.
Are you a Constitutionalist?
We signed TREATIES with these Nations. The US SENATE ratified the TREATIES. They have as much LEGAL POWER as the Constituution and Federal Laws.
Whether or not you like it is MEANINGLESS. It is called the RULE OF LAW.
I do NOT, nor did I ever, support the invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya, because they...DID NOT AGRESS against our Allies or the United States.
I did support the Gulf War because Iraq attacked Kuwait and...WE HAD SIGNED A TREATY WITH KUIWAIT. Once Iraq was expelled the war was OVER.
We have TREATIES with both Japan and the Phillipines.
I do not like US Servicemen going overseas and dying for ILLEGAL WARS OF AGGRESSION and AMERICAN IMPERIALISM.
But we must HONOR our TREATIES. We must honor our word if we are to have ANY CREDIBILITY.
I do not like it whatsoever. I do not want to see anyone die needlessly.
However if China aggresses against our Allies it must happen. It sucks. It goes against my peaceful instincts. But it is the Rule of Law.
It is too bad that the US Government failed to heed the admonitions of the Founders...AVOID FOREIGN ENTANGLEMENTS. So they made provision for that in the Constitution...HOPING our Senate would be wise enough, or POLITICALLY DIVIDED ENOUGH, TO NOT RATIFY TREATIES.
But that did NOT HAPPEN.
Ask our Native Americans about the value of treaties.
Indeed. The US tends to take a "What's in it for me" approach to treaties at any given time.
I thought it was Ministry of Peace.
With attitudes like yours, our Marines will never get their combat badges. Why do you suppose someone enlists in the Marines in the first place?
"With attitudes like yours, our Marines will never get their combat badges. Why do you suppose someone enlists in the Marines in the first place?"
Please tell me that was a /sarc post...I really have no fucking clue, although most likely they were fooled into it with promises of serving God, Country, and being able to mooch of the Federal Tit for the rest of thier lives. Poor bastards. I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I've done a share of crying over the useless loss of their lives in the sandboxes of the middle east.
Go fuck yourself.
Forgive me for giving an actual shit about the lives of the people in our military...here allow me make amends:
MOAR WAR! 'MERICA! WOO HOO!
/sarc
PrecipiceWatching was replying to Nick Jihad...NOT YOU. Then you slam him???
I also give a damn about our soldiers. I actually care a lot...perhaps too much.
War sucks.
Unfortunatly we have Defense Treaties with both the Phillipines and Japan. By the Rule of Law we must honor them.
We will go to war if China aggresses.
because they want to kill people from a distance for the benefit of banks, large corporations, and Israel?
Seriously, every one of you who thinks US troops should get into it with China over this fucking island are pussies if you don't start heading over there yourselves, and if you aren't willing to do so - kindly shut the fuck up. It is so far removed from defending the US or its interests it takes a special kind of remedial to argue for it.
dumb, ignorant cunts.
We signed TREATIES. Unfortunately we have no choice but to honor our word. This is NOT about American Imperialism and attacking Nations that did not attack us. This is about HONORING OUR WORD to the Nations which we agreed to protect.
In other words this would be a "Just War". Even Dr. Ron Paul would have to support it to be consistent.
American Marines and soldiers are dieing over absolutely nothing right now in Iraq and Afganistan!
"Will be restricted within the South China Seas".... That does encompass a LOT of Ocean.
One Carrier supported by 1 billion swimming combat troops in shark infested waters does not make it a viable plan.
Still it give the Diplomates something to do
Don't worry, the shark infested water thing has been taken care of by the "Fin soup industry." No more sharks, secret plan decades in the making.
Damn China! You really have blue balls for your 21st century war virginity that bad? Sheesh, do us both a favor and nuke Congress or something...not this petty crap.
Nuke CONgress? I don't think the Chinese aim is to help the people of the US.
Seems like a pretty good way to help to me, but then again they are just a bunch of figureheads so in a sense you're right. Still, I don't want see this nation involved in any more stupid wars (aren't they all?) and them starting one in the middle of BFE isn't helping.
Also, as an alternative, would you accept them nuking the FED?
Besides, did not the people of the USA voted the Congress in, along with the President?
No. They were chosen. We have no elections in the USA. We have popularity polls.
They do not actually count all votes. They take a sample and announce the winner of their choices.
Does it mean people of the USA have allowed this to happen?
and who are "They"?
Yay! Moar woar!
1. Reduce overpopulation
2. Justify more woar-milk so as to further justify suckling an old, wrinkled teat.
/sarc
what does putin think?
That's another battle... over there... The US is the drunk who can fight everyone!
Putin wants everything to hold off until after the Olympics. After that a diversion in the East will be welcome.
The imperial Chinese navy is on the prowl. Whos bright idea was it to dump all of our technology and jobs in their laps. The biggest mistake in the history of this country.
Unless the PRC navy is planning on firing iPads and plastic dinnerware at the Filipinos, they won't be using any technology the US gave them.
Theyll be using US technology that Israel gave them for us.
Bill Clinton alone gave the Chinese enough defense technology to field a modern day Army, Fucking piece of shit sold out his own country for money and votes. He can even control himself enough not to pork a fat ass intern. Some leader. Makes me want to vomit,
Score one major reprehensible, tratitorous act for Team BLUE.
"I did not have sex with that woman."
But Billy gave the Chinese 'the Monica' when he let them have missile guidance tech for, ahem...peaceful satellites.
Maybe the Navy will find out how the Chinese adapting dual use tech worked out.
Cuz that's what friends are for.
And the fight's over the paracel ??? so our western governments had so little imagination they actually decided to copy BF4'script ? or those games, played by millions of you people around the world are supposed to drive them to war the way tptb wants to ?
Thailand in trouble:
*Bangkok shut down, massive protests underpin, mkts wary of fresh violence, coup
Thailand in trouble...
just check the trails and roles of George Soros and those organizations: National Endowment for Democracy (NED), OPEN SOCIETY, Ford Foundation...
check the similar case: Who or What is Russia’s “Pussy Riot” and Who Funds it?
The REAL SHIT happens when that worthless King dies.
Hopefully the Lao, the Khmer, the Burmese and the Malay will then divide Siam up and the Chinese can have whats left.
The vile snobs of Bangkok and the Military are behind the troubles there, I just hope my friends and family have the escape planned and are prepped to do it.
The Land of Smiles. Ha.
regards
The REAL SHIT happens when that worthless King dies.
Hopefully the Lao, the Khmer, the Burmese and the Malay will then divide Siam up and the Chinese can have whats left.
The vile snobs of Bangkok and the Military are behind the troubles there, I just hope my friends and family have the escape planned and are prepped to do it.
The Land of Smiles. Ha.
regards
Oh Boy, Oh Boy!....
Uncle Remus gettin mighty busy their yonder in the Oval Office with the Chinaman?!
Keep this up he'll be wearing hip boots before Spring!!!
Zipp-a-Doo-Da... Zipp-a-dee-ay!...
This was 100% predictable and it seems like the USA is trying to provoke a real war with China via its proxies. China must not think it can effectively fight Japan, so it's considering taking out one of the US's weaker satrapies first. I don't know whether the brewing conflict is avoidable or not, but one thing's for sure; the US and its client states are continuing to escalate the situation when diplomacy and disengagement are called for.
the phillipines kicked the usa out and most philliinos dont want the usa back.
this is purely china on phillipines, taking what it wants like all bullies do when they think no one can oppose them; their true naked bully self comes out.
Well good for America then.
One less expensive, ungrateful population to defend.
Good luck dealing with your "bullies" in the future.
Absolutely right precipice. The philipinos made their own bed on this one. If they would not kicked the US out of Subic Bay and Clark, no one would have thought to play these territorial games. We should not encourage any further offshoring of American jobs there too.
Sololmon solution: A dusting of anthrax on the ground and a few smart mines in the sea and it's all over. No-one could approach the place for years. No-one would get ownership.
Got globalist Totus's, or is that Toti, or Totuses, for Christ's sake there is something in the White House.
Now I forgot what I was going to say.
Where's the United States of America's gold. I want an audit.
The US navy should get closer to Beijing and Shanghai. Carpet bombing those would draw attention away from islands nobody cares about.
edit: No I'm not serious. War should be an absolute last resort.
Hope the Chinese know what they are doing. I know what I would do if I were them.
Two names come to mind. Rothschild and Rockefeller.
So, in the end China will be the bull in the China shop.
Our Fuckwit rulers will keep pushing other countries until a nuke detonates over the good, old, USSA ( United Socialist States of America ) If I survive, I will be the guy screaming " Told ya so Assholes "
You would think the stupid Fucks have never read a history book, or, feel they are exempt from history ( This time is different )
Umm, just what other countries are we pushing in this case? The article implied that China was doing the pushing, by preparing a battle-plan, and all. Have you read a history book? Do the words "peace in our time" ring a bell?
More utterly ignorant, reflexive anti-USA bashing on ZH. I tuned into this thread just to see how long it would take and didn't even have to go very far down the first page.
We are pushing the poor, benevolent, morally superior Chinese to act this way?
How? Specifically
Shitty economics is leading to war....by everyone.
bullish
Intolerable this and intolerable that, so far they're only barking at each other. Why don't they all shut up and just do what what they think they should do? It's like they are trying to ask each other "if I take your shitty island, will you really take it back?" and instead of just asking they come with another ridiculous threat or announcement... boring..., bring it on and get it over with!
Surfin the China Sea time.
YeeeeeeeHaaaaaaa Obama is going to protect us.
looking at the map with a ruler i would say the chinese are the arrogant ones.
of course, if brunei belongs to china then I guess maybe they own the phillipines also. Or whatever china allows the phillipines to call theirs, that is.
chinese army getting ready
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDpOawqg5i4
But seriously
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JTLguUSkIc
Is this a fishing boundry issue due to the reactor leak?
Long Yuan.
China is peacfull history except the CIA MAO Dulles F*ck ups.. http://blog.livableworld.org/images/user/198/global_spending_graph.jpg Japan is really doing an agressive boundry dispute.
You are sadly misinformed. China has fought border wars with the Soviets, the Indians and the Vietnamese, as well as invading Tibet. The Japanese are wise to eschew appeasement.
One tax farmer(china), wants to move in on the tax farmer known as the phillipines. This type of thinking is going to do humanity in, and get a whole lot of us killed. This type of squabbling needs to end. You cannot have overconfident people running governments, they always become tyrants and we as a whole never seem to get it.
That's right! Let's all join hands and sing Kumbayah!
Solution: Bhutan.
China's economy must be in worse shape than anybody knows.
An all-out naval battle between the U.S. and China will last less than 24 hours.....
They know that, and if it looks like the US is serious about coming in, they will disappear.
Primary Target...One Aircraft Carrier Battle Group. From orbit that will not be all that hard to track.
We will Deep Six that Attack group before they even get a chance to disappear.
Do you really think that we are not currently tracking them as I write?
We have launched enough Polar Orbit Spy Satellites from Vandenberg AFB in recent years. The Rocket Launches look pretty in the Western Skies from San Diego when they are Evening Launches...Nice play of color.
Test
Isn't the war room occupied by the ACA healthcare battle team ?
Isn't the head decision maker in Hawaii and unapproachable ?
Will this be a nother "don't know" and "don't care" and "What does it matter ? "response ?
Isn't the fleet tied up on humanitarian efforts around the world and Fukushima ?
Didn't work so..............
Get over it, just a little Chinese weapons demonstration, so nobody dares to screw them up financially.
WWIII is near. Some smart dude once said that WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones. Seems like he knew human nature very well.
Prepare accordingly bithez!
Albert Einstein. Being that he helped to further nukes, I'd say he knows what he's talking about.
The Chinese leaders are not stupid, but squandering such a large ammount of political power by irritating most of their neighbors for something they can not win or keep seems like a bad deal for them. Unless it is about distracting their public from internal problems. Economically the Chinese economic leaders are stating conflicting goals like restraining inflation and growing the economy. Perhaps their political and military leaders are chaiotic as well. If so, the Chinese communist party is likely in internal conflict about many things and this is only an outward expression as their different party members pick sides. The phrase 'may you live in interesting times' is a curse in the far east. I hope nothing interesting happens.
They are doing it because they are children, inside. They want their old toys back and they are going to throw a tantrum to get them. Massive insecurity that can flash flip to unbelievable arrogance coupled with a chip on their shoulder the size of the galaxy.
Looks like in the effort to engage military force protecting USD as reserve currency, US is tightening it's military grip around China's sea boarders through its allies by provoking China to military conflict.
The question would be, when China looses its temper, if ever? China is one of most peacful nations in the modern history books specially when compared to US, Russia, Germany or UK.
Countries no longer need best military powers to defete other nations. There are many other tools. Most likely Chinese will through all their UST bills onto the open market when their temper is lost.
In the counter strike US Fed will unveil $5T (you think other countries will sit on their USTB?) open market buy operation in one day and that will end USD.
"China is one of most peacful nations in the modern history books specially when compared to US, Russia, Germany or UK."
I do love how they take wayward bankers and crooked industrialists out back and shoot 'em in the head. Very Soprano.
Speaking of which, Christie's viciously severe deputy bitch wouldn't last more than a couple of days in China.
More nonsense. The Chinese since 1800 have responded in only one way when they encounter other cultures.
With violence. That they lost does not change the fact that they respond with xenophobic violence. Ye He Tuan, Chang Mao, India, Vietnam (twice), the border disputes that ring China in Bhutan, India, Pakistan and elsewhere, Tibet (settling a score that is 1300 years old); the Chinese will make The Americans look like Swedes.
The Pacific Pivot -- Admiral Obama leading the way to a fundraiser for the MIC. Doesn't matter if there is shooting, as long as they are arming. Soldiers, sailors, warships, guns, planes, drones, missiles....a stimulus package!
Time to dust off Subic Bay and Clark!
Phils territorial claims to these islands (and some territory in Malaysia) got passed down from Spain to US to Phils.
China is flexing muscles claiming air rights over north pacific islands and now the Spratleys
http://thediplomat.com/2013/08/history-the-weak-link-in-beijings-maritim...
Clark still has the huge whorehouse called Fields Avenue.... so I'm in....
Tylers should form a ZH foreign legion so that all these internet tough guys can go defend a tiny Phillipine island with their own lives.
Bring extra socks, boys. Good clean socks are huge.
Bitches.
I'm a actually curious about what WWIII will look like and can't wait to see how the Chinese Hollywood portrays it in it's movies. If I had a couple of pieces of advice for China, it would be that you never get involved in land wars in Asia, and slightly less known, is that you never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
The Cliffths of Insthanity!
This means China not afraid of a navy war now, so the question is who wants to fight a war with China? If nobody wants fighting with China, then China will take what they want. Talking about winning without firing a bullet. Yes, USA can help Fillippine, but who pays the bill (Fillippine has no money).
China ishoping that Barry wil fag out as usual. But Obummer needs a distraction so all bets are off.
Correct. Whilst the Chinese have underestimated opponents and over estimated their hand in nearly all encounters since 1800, the fact is that they want what they want and they are going to take it unless something or someone physically restrains them.
We are rapidly headed back to the days of Tribute to The Empire.
Apply this to every contested island, Taiwan, northern Vietnam, all of the China Sea, and the land border areas that were - at any time during the past 2,000 years - part of 'Greater China'.
They want it all back. Every single square metre.
And any Chinese treasures in your museums, too. Thanks.
I love China's red dotted line.
Why not take 10 feet of everyone's phreakin' beach while you're at it.
Beaches.
The Philippines ``navy`` and ``airforce`` are a joke. They don't even have anti-ship missiles ffs!
Goddamnit. Bereft of sarc- no one knows fuck concerning Philippine history...including Filipinos...and the lobotomized USSFs brat-kids currently "not" anywhere near some island where (ha. ha.) terror-like Al-somethings hate our freedumbs.
Well shit! Sarc-switch "Flip"-ed.
Suffice that said, a few bits which might interest ZHers.
The reason for history-mystery is lack of account+no records. You, my friends, would be in decent company to assume Filipinos speak the Tagalog, have a few variations regarding the nucleic-acids, dialectal stuffs and customs. Also 85%ish catholic and lotsa Pros. (Winks to any Aussies here). These folks are low landers. Their history has 3 "parts": 1. Spanish gave them the pope stuff. Spanish not being fond of wtf sounding family names tamed the savages and by force of some law gave 'em Spanish names. That explains migels-a-plenty in an odd part of globe. Also the "millions" killed thing (forgotten history v10).
2. Direct reaction to T-Shitabelts "kill all over 10 years of age" geno-thing, known as the American-Philipino War (contrary to the books was 1899-1916, not 1899-1902) was the creation of The American Anti-Imperialist League, courtesy of a Mr. Samuel Clements, possessor of big-balls. Read his papers on the subject and transcripts of him verbally destroying various proto-Fed(bank)ster, mil-complex assholes and other Eastern Establishment Luminaries. To the T: Iraq V1 (HW), 2 (W) and 'Ganistan war M.O. were based upon the old tactics learned almost a century prior. Including water-boarding (see cover of TIME 1902) and enhanced "burning alive" interrogation tech. Also the classic "thousands of kid/moms/dads in hut light-on fire" strategy. Well over a million civilians were camped and slaughtered. The # is higher but can't be proven, unless you take some years, go there and write some book or some shit on the stuff.
3. Japanese Death. This ugly shit was (any vets here?) shared by both US/PHIL persons. Lots more info here (had several uncles, 2 still alive) who were PAC Theatre.
anyway. The whole mega-gold/HSBC/JP et. them stuff?
turns out, not a fable. If you really look hard, are good with computers and know or have someone who knows someone who is a "TPTB", the shit gets quick fantastic. I suggest poking around a bit.
Anyway, like most here, this goddamn shit is depressing. Humor and sarcs needed or head-splode. Ugh.
Btw man-thong you fucked up and shat all over the damn place.
Q: Who's in the room and who gives a fuck?
A: random dude who'd most likely enjoy drinking Iron Horse with,
Worst timing. For those unaware, Teddy R and the "patriots" of 'Murica are analogous to Dub-yeeehaw and fat ass walmart freedumbz folk. The former refered to "Flips" as being something "below a dog". The latter, ya'll know.
Flip is nigger. A bit of me (flip-dad) spent his childhood hiding/running/hiding from them Jap-Camps. My shitty flip-dad spent a lot of time doing kid stuff, eating bugs, his dad murdered brother too blah blah, As a teen with no school/job, he tutored the rich girls in return for food and books. His dad when alive sold junk stripped from junk. Made enough peso-things for 1 ticket going 1 way to Murica, gave it to my dad.
Not of drinking age he picked a random city to one way it.
3 goddamn jobs while going school- graduating top of his class as an MD.
It was because of my flip dad and 2 others that state law was changed allowing flips to practice medicine. Not long ago after a few years of me+mom doing a hospice, cleaning shit/blood up everyday uh
Flip died when holding his hand.
Apologizes. War-A-Day + Sheeps-once-friend r overflowing with emphathy
Anyway. Because of this fucking Herr Barry-Le Tard DHS/TSA shit the only family-person I was going to see for the first time ever, after finding her on the webs, I can't go and if it could, lost all contact with her (a niece) several typhoons ago, which I know landed where she lived.
Someone (here I think) said something that hit home, something all here (null trolls) know. (Bad para)
...I used to wonder what it would feel like...living in some fascist place...what WOULD it feel like, knowing the bad guy is "here"
No more wonder
(Tomorrow, new day)
huh?
You left out the part about the Spanish fucking everything that moved.....
The fucking DHS screwed with your plans to visit a relative that you never met? That is so fucked up.
You have lived a colorful life...more of a life than I have lived.
Working at a hospice is not a fun experience. Hard fucking work. A lot of Filipino that I know have ended up in Health Care.
It is too bad that what you came to has turned fascist.
We have a deal with the Phillipines. Not even that jerk off President can turn his back on a TREATY.
China had better back down quick. This ain't good. I do not want another war. But this one is not a matter of Imperialism. It is because of past Imperialism that we have the treaty to defend the Phil;lipines.
We will do it. I do not like it. But we will do it.
That is the problem with the Constitution. You either agree to all of it or none of it.
It is Rule of Law versus Mob Rule. There is no luxury to pick and choose if one is to be Morally Consistent.
Well I support Civil Rights and the Amendments. (That is even though our fucking leaders do not.) So I must also support what it declares about TREATIES.
(Why in the Hell did we get ourselves involved in Foreign Entanglements???)
"Hey guys, watch this!"
What could possibly go wrong?
Just put the real wagers on the table and see how the others will talk the talk and walk the walk :-) lol
The significance of Thitu Island is:
1: As the second largest island in the archipelago, at 37.2 Hectares, it amounts to almost half of Philippine's occupied land. While China currently occupies only a handful of reefs this would give china a strong position in the NW Quadrant.
See map here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Spratly_Is_since_Nal...
2: the 1.4 kilometer "Rancudo Airfield"- this airstrip would would allow china to deliver soldiers, weapons and supplies into Spratly. It is currently used by the Philippines to fly recon aircraft over the region as well as maintaining a regular civilian flight schedule.
http://adroth.ph/afpmodern/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/4407_1169362715197...
http://wikimapia.org/2533831/Rancudo-Airfield
3: the civilian population - While most the Spratly is uninhabited, currently Thitu houses more than 100 inhabitants including children and a small school.
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/thitu-island/view/?service=0
Sum Ting Wong
Wei Tu Low
Ho Li Shit
Bing Bam Ping
that was trippy .....
The USA currently hold a Mutual Defense Treaty with the Philippines.
While under ARTICLE V:
"...an armed attack on either of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack on the metropolitan territory of either of the Parties, or on the island territories under its jurisdiction in the Pacific or on its armed forces, public vessels or aircraft in the Pacific."
the attack on Thitu would trigger a US response it is important to note that under Article 1:
"The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, to settle any international disputes in which they may be involved by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered and to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations."
The Teleprompter in Chief could interpret this allow a course of action of burying a response in UN shenanigans, though I must add at a serous blow to the United States global image, it certainly would not be the greatest blunder in US foreign policy of the last 15 years.
View the Treaty here: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/phil001.asp
Also look at a relevant 2012 senate resolution Here: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/sres481/text
Last I checked China has an overabundance of young men with zero chance of mating thanks to their one child policy and genocidal tendencies when it comes to baby girls.
Either they use them as cannon fodder or they might turn against the state itself.
Take a wild guess which option any state would take.
Dayuuum, those Chinks sure are proud of their new aircraft carrier. This issue is about as arrogant as the USA demanding taking back all of the Bahama's chain of islands which are a helluva lot closer to our mainland than their issue.
I think that the US Navy's view of that Chink carrier (which the Chinks bought on eBay) is... hors d'oeuvre!