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Obama On The Merits Of Pot Versus Booze, Summarized In A Cartoon
Apparently fully content with the state of the economy, America's foreign affairs in pristine shape requiring none of the president's attention, and no golf course left untouched, Obama reverted to more important things over the weekend. Like the relative merits of pot and booze.
CNN summarized it as follows: "Marijuana, which is still placed in the same category as heroin, ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms by the federal government, is no more dangerous than alcohol, President Barack Obama said in an interview published Sunday. Speaking to New Yorker editor David Remnick, Obama said he still viewed pot smoking negatively – but that on the whole, the drug wasn’t the social ill that it’s been viewed as in the past."
“As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life. I don’t think it is more dangerous than alcohol,” Obama told the weekly magazine.
The president said pot was actually less dangerous than alcohol “in terms of its impact on the individual consumer.”
So, when it comes to the annals of presidential soundbites, FDR has "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself", Teddy Roosevelt has "Speak softly and carry a big stick", JFK has "Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country", Harry Truman is in there with "The buck stops here", Ronald Reagan has "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government ans I'm here to help", and now Obama entered the history books with "I don't think pot is more dangerous than alcohol."
But why read about it: here is a cartoon made by the Taiwanese animators which in 75 seconds tells you all you need to know, not the least of which is why America has fully succeeded in becoming the laughing stock of the world.
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Ghostery, baby. Squashes those bugs dead, too!
For once, Obama is right. Without question.
A Broken Clock is right twice per day.
midtown you are right. i dont get the hypocrisy on here. we sit here and bitch about our freedoms being inhibited, with states rights being eroded, and obama comes out and says pot isnt a big deal. he has deferred to the 10th amendment by letting states legislate this issue, and somehow now we are twisting this as a negative thing? if he challenged and threatened colorado and washington on the marijuana issue, we would be soaked in the tears of those bemoaning on about how obama is infringing on our freedoms over a non issue.
There is plenty of reason to be angry at Obama. Domestic spying, being a pawn of Wall Street, Drone Wars, etc.
But this comment isn't one of those things.
The ZH reaction to this comes as a surprise to me too.
Granted, President Choomwagon didn't come up with this argument, he's playing angles of course.
It's pretty near impossible to discuss the merits of anything without being accused of being an advocate.
There's a time and a place for (just about) everything. Gov't is terrible at deciding what that is.
And what of his (Obozo's) hypocrisy? The tenth amendment applies only where he says it does? That's not rule of law, and is most certainly inhibition of the rights of both men and states.
A little dramatic don't you think Tyler ....
..... the obligatory 'If you like your pot you can keep your pot'.
to make this depression bareable it is better to be stoned
Just don't get caught using it because this asshole has done nothing to keep you from going to jail for doing something he enjoys.
The Republicans need to pull a fast one on Obozo and introduce a bill to repeal Federal prohibitions against pot possession and cultivation right before the Midterms. Let Dingy Harry be the one to kill it.
Hypocrite !
The war on drugs is more of a scourge than pot is or could be. If he could talk congress into lifting the prohibition on weed I would be forced to admit that he did something right.
Nobody talks about the harmful psychoactive effects of thc. While they praise weed, they diss SSRI's ect. They dont understand that every substance they ingest has potential to manipulate brain chemestry IE norepinephrine, dopamine, and seritonin, and ach. Go to your local state psych ward and find out how many "guests" were habitual users of marijuana as adolescents. I am neutral on the subject because i am for freedom and liberty. But i wouldnt go out there and say everything is a-o-k hunkiedory
thats bullshit. the mere fact that those in pych wards used marijuana has no more causation than the fact that they used toothbrushes. weed isnt the problem maskone. the problem is the number of psychotropic "medications" being administered to every adolescent who walks throught their doctors doors with some typical youth hormone related emotional issue and walks out with drugs that really do damage. all because our doctors are nothing more than legalized drug pushing pimps. between 20-25 percent of americans are on these drugs. they are the reason we are seeing so many mass killings. it aint weed doing it.
so i say, smoke up, and stay off the zoloft. the world will be better off.
Its bullshit as much as its not bullshit. I did my rotation in a state hospital years ago before mainstream use of contemporary antidepressants became mass prescribed. Moreso- the inmates, or, "individuals" as they are refered, were mostly in their 30's and 40's at that time. Like i said, you cant deny that marijuana can act as a trigger in those we predispositions to mental illness, the evidence is compelling to say the least. Like i said you cant have it both ways. Marijuana undoubtedly effecta brain chemestry in ways similar to ssri's ect
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From a healthcare and research background i try to be as objective as possible. Everything should be evidence based. Both weed and mainstream antidepressants lack both.
for the vast majority of people who have used marijuana, there have been no adverse effects. cannot say the same for pyschotropic drugs that hollow out your soul. the rise of autism, btw, is being linked to women taking these "meds" within a year of birth. the number of suicides, how ironic, are increasingly linked to psychotropic drugs. same for violence. no maskone, weed and psychotropic drugs have much different effects on the brain and the behavior of humans.
>>>the rise of autism
RF radiation.
Of course the medical industrial complex will never recognise this as it's their biggest cash cow.
have you used marijuana or psych meds, or both? honest question. talk to someone who has extreme depression who attributes zoloft to saving their life! i am certain that the same exists for marijuana. the point is that they both can effect your brain chemestry. have pschotropic drugs been overprescribed? i would most def say yes, as there is alot of money involved. can miss-prescribing psychotropic drugs lead to catastrophic outcomes? yes. they can also cause idiopathic reactions a smuch as marijuana can for the simple fact that we do not know enough to prescribe either one as "medicine"
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i would use restraint when saying things like "the vast majority that have used marijuana". this is a broad generalization and somewhat subjective. atleast when making some attempt at a scientific argument.
we do not know enough about either one as medicine Not quite. We sure as hell know. Mj has been used regularly by humans the world over for circa 5 thousand years. N one until the ''war on drugs' had noticed its so called negative effects (and we have big business and good ole racism to thank for that). On the other hand, Zoloft and friends have been in use for about 30 years and their adverse effects are already qualitatively and quantitavely much more apparent. And you don't have to have worked at bellevue to realize this. These are self evident truths and you casting doubt upon them by means of some ''scientific'' facade is quite aggravating.
Opiates too then for that matter. And coco leaves, mushrooms, ect... This can be a conversation about recreational, medicinal, an spiritual uses if we are going to get historical anyway
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And forgot alcohol too- since ancient egypt
just because cannabis may have a negative effect on people with mental illnesses or who are pre-disposed (who the hell isn't these days?), doesn't mean that it should be forbidden for those users who actually benefit from the use of cannabis, recreationally or medicinally.
slow down there partner! i never said anything about banning, NADA! i am for personal liberties 100% read my earlier posts bro.
It is hard to really state cause and effect here. How many persons with psych issues are trying to self medicate and how many develop mental issues (that they didn't already have) due to the drug? A long standing question that is hard to answer due to the population in question not being exactly reliable.
......habitual users of marijuana as adolescents.
and there you have it. Pollutting the brain during its development phase can't be good. Teenagers have all they can do just to deal with the hormones while their brains re-wire. They don't need the nicotine, caffeine (Red Bull) alcohol, THC or any of it, including sugar. JMHO
I am certain that you will find that a majority in the Psych Wards were chronic Marijuana users. Correlation is not indicative of causality.
Can it be that those with Psych Disorders are prone to chronically use Drugs to Self Medicate the management of the symptoms?
Can cause and effect be interpreted backwards. Perhaps there is causation within that correlation. That is a PROBABILITY in my understanding of Mental Illness.
But me thinks you have got the cart before the horse in this case. I think that you are confusing the Effect as the Cause and the Cause as the Effect.
Is there a possibility of that?
I do not praise any Drug. I drink Alcohol once in a while...a Couple of Beers once or twice per Month if that... Alcohol IS A DRUG.
I chronically use Nicotine (I smoke cigarettes) and Caffeine (I drink a lot of Mountain Dew.). Perhaps I need to stop both habits, both addictions.
But Nicotine medicates my Brain and allows me to focus better. As it metabolizes into Nicotinic Acid it is a norepinephrine reuptake blocker. Of course a massive dose of Niacin (Nicotinic Acid) within the Vitamin B-Complex will serve that purpose.
Hint: If you are thinking about quitting smoking then taking megadoses of Niacinamide will prove out helpful.
(People have suggested that I may want to use Pot to alleviate Pain from Chronic Lyme Disease. I do not use Opiates for that. They do not work. I do not like that Pot as it inhibits my Cognitive skills.)
But Marijuana use is a personal choice. Who am I to tell anyone that they cannot smoke a Joint or a Bong Hit? Just because I won't do it does not mean that others need be restricted.
So please educate me about psychopharmacology. I can always use more knowledge.
Your ibring up a great point.
I would love to educate you on the psychopharmacology of marijuana. But currently there isnt enough research to draw any conclusions.
It effects different people differently. I certainly do not advocate mj to others, let alone teenagers. At the same time, though, people can't project their experiences on to me, and tell me its bad FOR ME.
right! exactly! i would feel the same way if someone tried to prescribe to me some purple hindu-kush for my headache. my headache might be gone but i would be paranoid as fuck, lack any motivation, lock my fucking keys in the car, put the creal in the fridge and the milk in the pantry, ect.
i would assume you would feel the same
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the sex drive is great on the shit tho!
Respectfully Tall Tom...
I've personally seen chronic Lyme Disease dealt with effectively by Royal Rife's concept of "Coordinative Resonance".
Check it out.
I will check it out. Thank you. I do not know why someone downvoted you.
I've been junked before and lived.
Once I saw the PICC line (Rocephin...that didn't help either) I had to find something else.
Lyme Disease is no joke. A lot of people disregard it as a minor nuisance that goes away with a short course of ABX.
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
Dude, you just wasted your breath. You're speaking to the inferiority complex, not rationale.
Sorry, but even food and drink influence brain chemistry! Don't think so? Try fasting for a week.
Right. So we will give them Ritalin for attention deficit, Oxy for pain and a whole cabinet full of nasty drugs for depression. All legal and perfectly fine according to you. Grow a brain and a dick!
Is there a scale that defines the "addictiveness" of a drug? If so, I'd like to see it used to create a series of charts that would graphically represent the addictiveness vs. cost vs. effect, etc. We could truly see then if one drug is "no worse" than another. But until then, this is all conjecture.
Well, at least we know where the Choomer in Chief will be vacationing this year... "Colorado or Bust!!!"
But, will his kids be going with him and will they be consuming recreational pot too?
As a recovering alcoholic and drug addict who used pot religiously, I can tell you that the weed today gets you twisted. Many a time I could not remember getting home after a session with the 6 footer. I am ok with legalizing it, but it gets you twisted. I am racist to comment on our leader's comments.
U are a racist and a narc
Jk but yeah two hits of the "pharmacuitical" and i will be looking out my blinds every two seconds for the duration of the evening. Not my idea of a good time :(
If you live in a legal state then suddenly most of the paranoia has gone away (unless you smoke/ingest a lot). The paranoia many people feel is mostly caused by the fact it is illegal.
I get it. But if u have been paying attention, lately wee is the only thing LEGAL! Everything else is RAPIDLY becomming a fast track to the prisonsystem. So, like, yay for weed! But all o your rights are now gone. Is that enough cause to be paranoid???
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thats sort of the problem with the weed thing. its a distractor. in an thriving, liberated society, people have the right to choose what to put in their bodies. unfortunately as it stands, these choices must go before the channels of beuraucracy first, to be determined who profits and who doesnt, before we can get the privelage.
I hate booze, it ruined the first ten years of my adulthood. I took to hard drinking when I was in the Navy, as if any sailor at that time could avoid it! I get mental when I am drinking and also suffer after drinking illness. Pot put me to sleep and ruined my lust for women. I now have a favorite substitue when I need to unwind, but because this makes me a criminal in my own nation, I can not even mention the mild narcotic I use on occasion. War on Drugs MUST GO ON. So many jobs depend on it, from your local cop, to lawyers, judges, jailers. I would guess a good % of USA GDP is war on drugs money.
Probably gives the CIA a nice slush fund as well.
there are of course incentives not to drink while in the Navy, one of them being there were only limited opportunities, a few days a month when the ship was in port. then if you got too stinking and the SPs got you, you could lose a stripe, and if that happened too often they would discharge you for conduct. most cases of alcoholism have genetic predispositions. if you wanted to do something on board the ship that would be pot, booze is of course banned, but there was pot and pills. it was a real problem, more so than booze, when you have a large and very dangerous environment which depends on everyone being alert and doing their job.
We had a few seamen smoking pot in the paint locker, this is way up forward and below decks on a small ship like mine. I questioned one of them as to why smoke in the paint locker, he was a member of the deck gang and held keys to the paint locker. I stayed clean onboard ship, but any other time we drank very heavily. We often had shipwide searches and they turned up pills and pot. Those caught went to the brig, where Marines would make life hell for them, this was part of the system, in hopes the bad treatment in the brig would teach them a lesson. Dishcharge was not easy to get in those days, more likley you were kept in the Navy and sent to the most good forsaken duty imaginable. Discharge was a last resort, and a general of bad conduct was handed out to these guys, which made civilian jobs very hard to get. They had you by the nutts.
Its not a war, its an industry.
I hate him as much as the next guy but Obama was finally right about 1 thing!!
I admit to a hatred for Bush so deep I almost went mad just seeing that guy on TV. Obama has now reached and surpassed my Bush hate. That fucking "Black Bush" Obama is the worst fucking liar and puppet of big business I have ever seen. A war mongering liar and suck ass for international bankers and big corporations. But then we have only one party, the."Big Banker, Big Money, Wall-Street, Big Corporation Party."
I regret I have but one up arrow to give.
Don't worry. Whoever is elected next will be even worse.
It gets regressively bad until it all falls apart.
(Lose the anger. I am still trying to lose the anger. That is why I vent on ZH.)
If you can get all the people to take drugs and drink they won't be a threat to the establishment. Obama be provide like he gone to.
oh, alcohol is not a drug? really?
What about crack?
"In Russia, Pot is smoke you!"
-h/t Boris
"Crack is whack!" -Whitney Houston
So? Everybody is right now and then.
I've never said this before, but I 100% agree with President Obama, and I admire him for showing the courage to say this.
as i understand it now more people die from abuse of pres drugs than the recreational kind. the pot industry is against legalization because their profit premium would disappear. therefore when obama says he thinks pot isn't dangerous i consider his motives are to open the way to corporate america taking over the business. the hc industry wants it too, (if obamacare featured medical mj signups might go a little better)
hc people are trying to reach abusers using anti Ds, alcohol, and rec drugs together. yeah i was drinking too much so i smoked some doob instead, and in order to give up both i need the pills, but that's no fun, so i am back to doing all three again. one drug for another is like paying off one cc with another
actually, weed can help people quite drinking. i've witnessed it directly in at least 2 instances. the alcohol industry is deathly afraid of weed.
that said, i agree that weed can twist a person in different ways. perhaps the person who said weed 'amplifies the underlying self' was onto something...
weed definitely seems to affect different people in different ways.
as bad as a lot of potheads seem to be, it seems to me there are worse things a person could be/do.
Actually stopped smoking pot when I started drinking. Quit drinking without any help. I had moved onto whiskey at that time, beer got a little boring.
see, more evidence that pot affects everyone differently. some people use it to quit booze; and apparently, other people use booze to quit weed.
er, 'quit drinking'
If pot smoker Obama wants to fight wars he is not smoking enough.
I still think "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan" will be this administration's money quote for posterity.
And you forgot to mention Bubba's eternal "I did not. Have. Sexual. Relations. With that woman."
"Bring it on, mission accomplished" ~ teh BushCo (those cost lives).
one time George W. Bush injured himself when in the Sequoia National Forrest when he tried to pronounce the word, Husqvarna.
If you like your pot you can keep your pot. Yay!
They call it dope for a reason.
Pot was legal in the 1800s - they figured out then.
So the elites have found another way to keep the people down - feed them cheap, legal pot and make them more fucking stupid than they already are.
Legal pot first. Bank account confiscation to follow.
And to you Barry, you fucking pawn, go fuck yourself!!!!
Soma
Didn't John Lennon's mass marketing team come up with this strategy?
No wonder why he was assasinated, government = jealous. I'm not sure if I believe that Mark Chapman acted on his own.
On that note, if he only shut John Lennon up without the blood and guts- I could've considered him a "hero".
Obamapot!
Where do I sign up.
No more criminalization of pot smokers for possession. We have too many criminals as it is, why create more by professionalizing that which is minor.
On the same note, food stamps / SNAP should only be valid for food staples. Why am I subsidizing someone's diabetes when I'm subsidizing their healthcare as well?
And save taxes by scaling down the military.
And save more taxes by the proliferation of armed citizens. No to Swat, yes to my neighbor's AR.
Maybe stealing, lying and cheating in the financial world should become a priority for enforcement.
Oh, and in the political as well.
Oh yeah, let's cap the amount of campaign contributions in every race.
Wow, reading my own list, sounds like I'm the one who is high, lol!
You on the internet? You drive on the freeways? Who did that?
THE US MILITARY. As a matter of fact, it was the Air Force that developed the internet.
Fool. Don't like the US military, GET OFF THE INTERNET.
Pot really does make people stupid.
Hitler built the Autobahn so that panzers could be easily moved cross-country.
America copied the idea with the Interstate Highway Act of 1959. That is what America's Freeway System was designed for.
Operation Paperclip worked wonders. Nowwe have to expunge our Political System. That is where it became corrupted.
We got the Scientists and Engineers with the unfortunate Political Idoelogy. But the Germans were brilliant Chemists and Physicists.
Sounds like you should smoke less.
I did not say get rid of the military, little miss hissie fit.
I said pare it back.
Now you may light another fat one and go back to your dreams of empire.
I've smoked pot regularly for 44 years. Alcohol will get you killed, put in prison or destroy your liver. You can not smoke enough pot to lose common sense and it has many medicinal benefits. It does not lead to harder drugs as far as I'm concerned. I tried coke once, the price of a fifteen minute buzz is not worth it.
rock on
Yep.
Nope! Stoned drivers kill. PEOPLE WHO ASSUME THAT YOU'RE 420 FRIENDLY DO ASSUME THAT YOU TOLERATE THE HARD STUFF. LIKE THEIR CRACK HABIT. THEY JUST WANT YOU TO BE "COOL" SO THEY CAN BUM YOUR MONEY AND YOUR STASH-IF YOU HAVE ONE.
From potus cokefiend who "didn't inhale" to the potus cokefiend who thumped bibles at a racist college, to the potus cokefiend who "inhaled because that was the point".
Has anyone noticed the decline in AMerican economy with the boomer voting majority elected leaders and their priorities?
I gave you an up arrow for the last two sentances.
The first couple were a stoned mess.
Somebody must have created a Megaphone-style app for government LEOs to find and spam pro-government propaganda about the dangers of marijuana...
Everybody getting ready for Stoner Bowl? lmao.
barry said it so it must be true.
Pot should be Legal.......BUT CAREFUL WHAT YOU POTHEADS WISH FOR !!!!!!
Ultimately they won't be able to resist the revenue.
Obama: "Look at me, pot didn't turn me into a sociopathic liar. That's racist."
Finally, an issue on which Obama has some real world experience.
Curious to see what the private prison industry has to say about this. Ready, Set, Lobby.
More Obamady.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/20/parallel-universe-woman-spend...
‘Parallel universe’: Woman spends 6 weeks trying to disenroll from ObamaCareI knew the US would do a complete U-turn on cannabis at some point, but the pace is staggering. Around five years ago I predicted that it would be legalized on federal level mid to late 20's. Seems like it might happen much earlier. Which is, of course, a great thing. Legal pot is less harmful than illegal. And no, I don't consume it.
Yet another reason for someone who wants to build a factory to choose to build it in a country where drugs are still illegal, so that they know their workforce will show up in shape to work...
It's also interesting that the US has targeted smoking cigarettes as the cause of nearly every health care ailment, yet now seems to be encouraging the inhalation of marijuana smoke... then again, I guess they assume that no one actually inhales???
What bullshit. Do have any idea of the lost productivity due to hangovers? Hint- it's huge. No such animal in Stonerville.
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America's "health" priority is to do everything to make us diabetic (see high fructose corn syrup and also look at all of the misleading "research")... they even called Carnitine a "heart risk". Taurine is the heart risk (I tried it before, it caused me to gain 5 pounds without adding extra calories or fat and it raised my cholesterol).
Bristol Myers Squibb and their Chinese partners Sino Pharmaceuticals is totally set up to profit from that mess.
Ciggies are supposed to be addictive for people with B3 deficiencies. So smokers should have access to subsidized Vitamin B shots every week. THey already paid for it with Clinton's price inelastic tax.
AS for pot, American Baby boomers are already stupid enough. They don't need the help.
Vitamin B-Complex Injectable, along with syringes, can be purchased here.
http://www.kvsupply.com/vita-jec-b-complex-injectable-250-ml
At $9.49 per 250ml Bottle I do not think that you need it subsidized by the Federal Government.
Ignore the fact that it claims to be "For Animal Use Only" It is at the same purity, grade and hygenic standards as the stuff made for Humans.
I dose myself at about 10 cc per week. I do not need a Doctor to do it for me.
You are correct about Niacin Deficiency in Smokers.
Niacin Deficiency may also play a part in Schizophrenic Type Mental Disorders.
+1 for noting the relationship with schizoprenia.
thanks for the tip on niacinamide
The tobacco don't kill you the 499 chemicals in it do.
I don't care if pot is legal or not. The question is, "WILL WE BE SUBSIDIZING "MEDICAL" MARIJUANA"?
If so, then just cut off medicare and Obamalamacare completely. I'm so not paying for the boomers' voting majority's habits. Are they stupid?
Super funny having the two blunts work over the booze lobbyists "chicago style".
Cannabis is easily the most studied and researched plant on the planet. The Tashkin study is worth taking a look at as it proved in even hard daily users the plant provides a protective effect against lung cancer.
The "marijuna man", a several thousand year old grave found in West China demonstrates that canabis was cultivated and processed and was a cherished commodity pre AD. .
The human brain has uptake receptors specifically designed for cannabis demonstrating that human beings and the plant have a long history.
The upshot is that pretty much everything can be addictive. Compared to all the chemicals found in our food these days (partially hydronated soybean oil, high fructose sugers, etc. ), cannabis is quite benign. Take a look at some pst Lancet studies were they determined the effects of cannibas to be "marginal".
I've yet in my life to witness anyone on the effects of cannabis engage in violence or dangerous activities where as booze lowers ones inhibitions horribly.
New strains are demonstrating excellent results for treating and curing children and adults with epilepsy.
Hemp could provide the nation and planet with clean oil for fuel, seeds for food (more digestible protein in hemp seeds than soybeans) and when added to cotton makes some of the finest fabrics known to man.
I was going to make a long post to illustrate these points as well as the numerous research papers on the efficacy of cannabinoids in treating various illnesses and symptoms...
But people only believe what they want to believe (or trained to believe) and ignore any data that doesn't confirm that bias.
The information is there if you want it.
Knee-jerkers don't want it. They already know all they need.
Many of my pot smoking friends have no problem with heroin, opium, extasy, mushrooms, etc remaining illegal. Many even favor restrictions on pot legalization, so hypocracy does not solely reside in the alcoholic camp. It would seem that the drug war is OK as long as it is not my ox that is being gored and social engineering is great so long as I'm the engineer.
There are two very different foundations upon which the laws of a society can be built:
1.) All things should be illegal unless they can be demonstrated to be beneficial.
2.) All things should be legal unless they can be demonstrated to fit the logical definition of a crime.
Unfortunately, the tremendous effort currently underway to promote the legalization of marijuana heavily reinforces the former foundation. The two most widely advocated reasons for marijuana legalization are 1.) It can generate tax revenue, therefore it should be legal, and 2.) It is not harmful and/or it has medical uses, therefore it should be legal.
Arguing for the legalization of marijuana from the latter foundation would be much more simple: It is not a crime for me to choose which molecules I want to absorb into my bloodstream, therefore it should not be illegal.
By this logic, you can see that Obama is neither right nor worthy of praise for his position on marijuana because he is still viewing the situation through the lens of a statist totalitarian: Your consciousness, your blood, your central nervous system are property of the government, and no molecule will tresspass on that property unless it can be demonstrated to generate revenue for the government or do no harm to government property i.e. everyone and everything.
@ new Vaft: As close to Libertarianism as one can get. Run for office and we will vote. I only vote for Libertarians.
Burma Shave
@ Tall Tom: Hey Prof, I think I was in your class - a couple of times. I'm 63 so my memory's a little smoky. Did I pass? I just can't remember Man. (We used to call each other "man" in those days as apposed to "Dude".
Pot isn't more dangerous than alcohol.
Obama is correct about this.
Generaly speaking most heavy users dont get much done and fail to achieve true happiness (exceptions of course). IMHO. the new rage is dabs which is serious medication and from what ive seen creates a disconnect from the real world..Just my 2 cents BTW I use about once a week vape or edible to control stress. Moderation in everything.
Pot makes you fat lazy and stupid and if you smoke too much you wont achieve your potential and you may grow a pair of manboobs.
Too much Alcohol has its own side effects. It got me arrested for disorderly conduct a year ago.
Stay away from both and just fuck a lot if you need something to do with your time. I havent found any side effects there. I
i like weed, and dont see a problem with it.
but that is irrelevant, what is relevant is personal responsibility and the right of the individual.
if i wanna smoke myself to death thats my business and nobody not you lot of conservative wankers or the government has the right to tell me otherwise.
without personal responsibility we are all just slaves being told what we can and cannot do.
As with most things, it's better if rules are made and enforced locally. Each community should be able to decide for itself what it will and won't tolerate, and how to enforce those rules.