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Mexican Citizens Topple Cartels And Are Rewarded With Government Retaliation

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Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market blog,

There is one rule to citizen defiance that, in my opinion, surpasses all others in strategic importance; and it is a rule that I have tried to drive home for many years. I would call it the “non-participation principle” and would summarize it as follows:

When facing a corrupt system, provide for yourself and your community those necessities that the system cannot or will not. Become independent from establishment-controlled paradigms. If you and your community do this, the system will have one of two choices:

1)  Admit that you do not need them anymore and fade into the fog of history, OR...

2)  Reveal its tyrannical nature in full and attempt to force you back into dependence.

In either case, the citizenry gains the upper hand. Even in the event of government retaliation or a full-blown shooting war, dissenting movements maintain the moral high ground, which is absolutely vital to legitimate victory. No revolutionary movement for freedom can succeed without honoring this rule. All independent solutions to social destabilization and despotism rely on it. Any solutions that ignore it are destined for failure.

I am hard-pressed to think of a better recent example of the non-participation principle in action than the rise of Mexican citizen militias in the Western state of Michoacan.

Michoacan, like most of Mexico, has long been overrun with violent drug cartels that terrorized private citizens while Mexican authorities did little to nothing in response. I could easily cite the abject corruption of the Mexican government as the primary culprit in the continued dominance of cartel culture. I could also point out the longtime involvement of the CIA in drug trafficking in Mexico and its negative effects on the overall social development of the nation. This is not conspiracy theory, but openly recognized fact.

The Mexican people have nowhere to turn; and this, in my view, has always been by design. Disarmed and suppressed while government-aided cartels bleed the public dry, it is no wonder that many Mexicans have turned to illegal immigration as a means of escape. The Mexican government, in turn, has always fought for a more porous border with the U.S. exactly because it WANTS dissenting and dissatisfied citizens to run to the United States instead of staying and fighting back. My personal distaste for illegal immigration has always been predicated on the fact that it allows the criminal oligarchy within Mexico to continue unabated without opposition. Unhappy Mexicans can simply run away from their problems to America and feed off our wide-open welfare system. They are not forced to confront the tyranny within their own country. Under this paradigm, Mexico would never change for the better.

Some in the Mexican public, however, have been courageous enough to stay and fight back against rampant theft, kidnapping and murder.

The people of Michoacan, fed up with the fear and subjugation of the cartels and the inaction of the government, have taken a page from the American Revolution, organizing citizen militias that have now driven cartels from the region almost entirely. These militias have decided to no longer rely upon government intervention and have taken independent action outside of the forced authoritarian structure.

The fantastic measure of this accomplishment is not appreciated by many people in America. Though many cartels are populated by well-trained former Mexican military special ops and even covert operations agents, the citizens of Michoacan have proven that the cartels are a paper tiger. They can be defeated through guerrilla tactics and force of will, which many nihilists often deny is even possible.

NPR reported:

Joel Gutierrez, a militia member of the Michoacan region, says residents were “sick of the cartel kidnapping, murdering and stealing.”

“That’s why we took up arms,” says Gutierrez, 19. “The local and state police did nothing to protect us.”

 

The militia men have been patrolling their towns and inspecting cars at checkpoints like this one for nearly a year. All that time, federal police did little to stop them, and at times seemed to encourage the movement.

 

But that tacit approval appeared to end last weekend, when the number of the militias mushroomed and surrounded Apatzingan, a town of 100,000 people and the Knights Templar’s stronghold. A major battle between the militias and the cartel seemed imminent.

 

The federal government sent in thousands of police and troops to disarm the civilian patrols. A deadly confrontation ensued. Federal soldiers fired into a crowd of civilian militia supporters, killing two.

 

Militia leader Estanislao Beltran says the government should have gone after the real criminals, the Knights Templar, and not those defending themselves. He vehemently denies rumors that he takes funds from a rival group.

 

“The cartels have been terrorizing us for more than a decade,” Beltran says. “Why would we side with any of them?”

Initially, local authorities encouraged the militias, or stayed out of their way. The citizens armed themselves with semi-automatic weapons, risking government reprisal, in order to defend their homes; and so far, they have been victorious. One would think that the federal government of Mexico would be enthusiastic about such victories against the cartels they claim to have been fighting against for decades; but when common citizens take control of their own destinies, this often incurs the wrath of the establishment as well.

The Mexican government has decided to reward the brave people of Michoacan with the threat of military invasion and disarmament.

In some cases, government forces have indeed fired upon militia supporters, killing innocents while exposing the true intentions of the Mexican political structure.

Mainstream media coverage of the situation in the western states of Mexico has been minimal at best; and I find the more I learn about the movement in the region, the more I find a kinship with them. Whether we realize it or not, we are fighting the same fight. We are working toward the same goal of liberty, though we speak different languages and herald from different cultures. Recent government propaganda accusing Michoacan militias of “working with rival cartels” should ring familiar with those of us in the American liberty movement. We are the new “terrorists,” the new bogeymen of the faltering American epoch. We are painted as the villains; and in this, strangely, I find a considerable amount of solace.

If the liberty movement were not effective in its activism, if we did not present a legitimate threat to the criminal establishment, they would simply ignore us rather than seek to vilify us.

The militias of Michoacan have taken a stand. They have drawn their line in the sand, and I wish I could fight alongside them. Of course, we have our own fight and our own enemies to contend with here in the United States. As this fight develops, we have much to learn from the events in Western Mexico. Government retaliation has been met with widespread anger from coast to coast. And despite the general mainstream media mitigation of coverage, the American public is beginning to rally around the people of Michoacan as well. The non-participation principle prevails yet again.

The liberty movement in the U.S. must begin providing mutual aid and self-defense measures in a localized fashion if we have any hope of supplanting the effects of globalization and centralized Federal totalitarianism. We must begin constructing our own neighborhood watches, our own emergency response teams, our own food and medical supply stores, and our own alternative economies and trade markets that do not rely on controlled networks. We must break from the system and, in the process, break the system entirely.

Even now, we are beginning to understand the subversive transformation of our own law enforcement structure, and find a system designed to protect the criminal establishment, not the people.  The FBI, for example, has recently changed the language of its primary mission statement, claiming that their goal is "national security", not law enforcement.

Police department across the U.S. are also changing how they interpret their mandate.  U.S. courts have ruled that police departments do not have a constitutional duty to protect citizens from harm, rather, they simply exist to enforce legal code after a crime has already been perpetrated.  This means that local police are no longer considered "peace officers", but agents of bureaucracy who are not necessarily required to defend the citizenry from violent action.  The terrors Mexican citizens face in Michoacan are coming to America, and if disarmament proponents have their way, we will have no means to stop it.

I am growing increasingly exhausted with the incessant rationalizations of frightened activists posing as non-aggression proponents; the same kinds of people who refuse to even entertain the probability that physical self defense will be needed against corrupt government. The pungent smog of cowardice that follows them curls the nostrils, and the obvious transparency of their fear is a bit sickening. I wish I could convey how refreshing it is to witness a group of common people, regardless of nationality, with a set of brass ball bearings large enough to face off against government supported drug cartels notorious for mass murder and decapitation.

If you want see into the future, into the destiny of America, I suggest you examine carefully the developments of the Michoacan region. It is no mistake that good men and women are being disarmed around the world, and America is certainly not exempt. Look at what happens when we are not helpless! We can crush cold and calculating drug cartels as easily as we can crush psychopathic government entities. We are capable of superhuman feats. We are capable of globalist overthrow. We are capable of unthinkable greatness, as long as we are not distracted by false solutions and false leaders who lure us away from localized action towards centralized non-events.

The rise of Mexican non-participation groups gives me much hope for the future. For if the most corrupt and criminally saturated of societies can find it within themselves to fight, to truly fight, regardless of the obstacles and regardless of the supposed consequences, then there is a chance for us all. We must look beyond the odds of success and become men — real men — once again. We must face down evil, without reservation and without apprehension first by separating from the system, and then by standing our ground. We must be willing to risk everything; otherwise, there is absolutely nothing to gain.

 

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Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:04 | 4357752 Kirk2NCC1701
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Disagree.  If their Gov wanted to set a "good" example, or avoid setting a "bad example getting worse", they'd have attacked the cartels also.

The fact that they protected them, tells you EVERYTHING you need to know:  BOTH are an enemy of the People, and only a full Enema and Blood Transfusion will do.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:20 | 4357213 Overfed
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WTF makes you think the goverment, any government, the 'authorities', are the "good guys"?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 19:44 | 4357102 Spungo
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I hope these fuckhead militia guys don't cause the price of cocaine to go up. That would really bother me.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:05 | 4357155 silverserfer
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Naw Spungo, McCain is in charge of that.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:12 | 4357176 shutdown
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Totally, man. These militants are unAmerican, ya know what I'm sayin'?.

Let's try some simple logic:

If the heroin and cocaine supply drops, the drug prices rise.

When the prices rise, more Americans' homes are burglarized.

Therefore, if you want to stop crime in America, the Mexican citizens militias must first be defeated.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 06:26 | 4358218 Tom_333
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Rising price on cocaine on the streets might well that would propably take the heat off the mexican citizens cum vigilantes and make the government(s) back off. I wonder have that seemingly illogical statement could be explained.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 19:50 | 4357117 Greenskeeper_Carl
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I see you guys are doing fine on your own. That won't do. HERE, HAVE SOME GOVERNMENT

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:14 | 4357190 _SILENCER
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Anarchy Burger, hold the government.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 19:52 | 4357122 nightshiftsucks
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What I want to know is why hasn't the US Military destroyed the poppy fields in Afghanistan ?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:13 | 4357180 Overfed
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That's a rhetorical question, right?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:15 | 4357191 Emergency Ward
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The CIA wants to control the trade of the flower of forgetfulness.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:30 | 4357244 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Previous admin had a program in place, erradicating poppy fields in Afghanistan, effective or not, which Obama stopped within the first few month his administration.

You know George Soros spent a bunch of money getting Barracky elected and his Prez was not going to let anything get in the way of Mr. Soros drug running.

Run some internet checks on Soros and his funding of politics througout the world and you will understand.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 06:30 | 4358219 Tom_333
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What cash-flow is in reality propping up the bank sector(s)?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 09:23 | 4358385 Disenchanted
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re: "Previous admin had a program in place, erradicating poppy fields in Afghanistan, which Obama stopped within the first few month his administration."

 

Bullshit! Both admins were/have been knee-deep in protecting the poppy fields...all the while pretending they are eradicating same.

 

From 2006: Afghanistan Opium Crop Sets Record

quote:

 

Opium cultivation was outlawed during Taliban rule in the late 1990s and was nearly eliminated by 2001. After the overthrow of the Taliban government by U.S. forces in the fall of that year, the Bush administration said that keeping a lid on production was among its highest priorities. But corruption and alliances formed by Washington and the Afghan government with anti-Taliban tribal chieftains, some of whom are believed to be deeply involved in the trade, undercut the effort.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:07 | 4357768 Kirk2NCC1701
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If we had peace in Afghanistan, then the Iran-China oil&gas pipelines could be built.

You do the math on that, in regards to geo-politics, petro-currencies, etc.

IMHO, the real reason we are bribing Karzai & Co, is to keep the country in chaos.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:00 | 4357141 Son of Captain Nemo
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All I could think of when I read this was the movie "Greater Glory" based on the Cristero Wars.

Gringo has no cajones to do what our neighbors to the south are demonstrating!

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:01 | 4357142 tired_of_manipu...
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These militias are pretty heavily armed (military rifles, body armor) for guys off the street in a country with very strict gun laws.  I don't doubt a lot of them just want to protect their neighborhoods, but I wonder who is arming them.  The funding behind these groups is probably not very benevolent.   

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:17 | 4357200 Overfed
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Dude, guns are all over Mexico due to the proxy wars that have been fought all over S. America during the las 60 years. Body armor isn't rare or scarce, I've gotten it at yardsales.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:31 | 4357245 Crawdaddy
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Wait until bad guys are sleeping off party night, jump them with garden hoes, pick up weapons.

Or defections - http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/01/yesterday-knight-templar-today-mem...

 

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:41 | 4357474 W74
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That's an M4 with attached M203.

Clearly straight off the Armory racks of any US unit that isn't supply.  I know because I carried that same getup.  Can't make out the scope due to blurryness.

Molle Vest looks like it could be standard issue IOTV (minus the shoulder, testicle and neck covers) colored black instead of the acu pattern or newer 'multi-cam' print. 

Seems like Fast & Furious never stopped.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:47 | 4357883 Crawdaddy
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Help a civi out here W74 - what do you mean by "any US unit that isn't supply"? Where do you think he got that rifle? Is it only gov issued?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 01:45 | 4358035 Overfed
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If that is a real M203 (40mm vs the 37mm civilian version), they are as rare as hen's teeth in the civilian market and have to be registered as a destructive device. The guys in supply, motor pool, etc. generally aren't issued those kind of things.

It is a fact that the State Dept. of the US ( under Shitlery) has shipped real military  issue small arms to the cartels, the favorite being the Sinaloas.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:10 | 4358778 Crawdaddy
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Thanks Overfed

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:04 | 4357571 Cloud9.5
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Look at the early pictures.  The militia was armed with shotguns and 22 rifles.  The heavy stuff came from the Federals and the cartel they took down.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:01 | 4359515 MeelionDollerBogus
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They could have sold to the cartels - maybe some used to & then changed their minds. Grew a conscience or something.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:03 | 4357144 22winmag
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I've been following this stuff on Youtube and Netflix. Look up the "Vice" episode on Mexican self defense groups.

 

The difference between what's going on in Mexico and what may be happening here soon is in America there are far more guns, far more veterans with military experience, and far more pissed off people who have experienced more prosperity and freedom and then lost it.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:19 | 4357615 Woodhippie
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Agree, but the Mexicans are actually doing something.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:38 | 4357674 object_orient
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Those American veterans spent their careers working for the interests of, and getting their paychecks from, the federal government. Will they really switch sides so easily? And if yes, why didn't they do it sooner?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:18 | 4357938 22winmag
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Show me a vet that loves and trusts the government and I will show you a purple unicorn that shits 7.62x51 brass.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:56 | 4357991 mumcard
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I can verify that.  I did 5 years on the walls of the empire in the USMC.  Thanks for the training, it looks like I'll be needing it.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 03:16 | 4358117 the0ther
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Watch the vice program about the Romney family in Mexico and their wars with the narcos. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:59 | 4359506 MeelionDollerBogus
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there's a lot more brainwashed sheep, too.
That's a problem when a lot of them are still soldiers.
Just imagine what happens if the US military or CIA drops nerve gas & blames Al Qaeda or in fact the same militias trying to restore law & freedom, protecting children & property...

like Syria's army being blamed for what the Al Qaeda rebels actually did there.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:02 | 4357146 Dr. Engali
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Sadly we won't see any action taken against the central planners until we are all eating dirt. Even then the chances are we will be fighting each other instead of the real criminals.

It's not until we've lost everything that we are free to do anything.

~Tyler Durden~

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:32 | 4357251 Crawdaddy
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True words Doc, if history is a guide.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:05 | 4357147 U4 eee aaa
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People (<----that is supposed to be a strikethough but it isn't sticking) Mexican militias are awesome!

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:07 | 4357161 F.A. Hayek
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You know what happened the last time a well-publicized neighborhood watch was formed, right?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:16 | 4357199 Manipuflation
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Not participating.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:25 | 4357231 gwar5
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In Jaco, Costa Rica Colombian drug dealers sort of took over the little beach town for about a decade. They did a couple of murders a year, some very brazen with many witnesses, which was an unheard of shock for such a small town. They spread drugs and other crimes and brought a really bad element to the peaceful little town. They owned and hung out in the same restaurant on the main street every day, everybody knew who they were, but the cops were afraid of them and did nothing.

 

Then, a couple of years ago an unknown man wearing a bandana mask, riding a dirt bike, rode up to one of the Colombians sunning himself on the beach and shot him dead. A couple of weeks after that the guy with the bandana mask rode his dirt bike up to their restaurant in broad daylight and shot two of them dead and rode off.  None of the locals would say who he was, if they even knew. There was no desire by the police to find out who the vigilante was because all the locals were supportive and threatening to join him to speed things up. 

The Colombians got the message and they packed up and left and have not been back since.

 

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:35 | 4357264 Crawdaddy
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Yes - one bold hombre with a bandana and a bike CAN make a difference. Hard to keep that in mind when the entire western culture teaches only groups can succeed.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:34 | 4357469 chubbar
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Lonewolf, baby. Nothing the NSA, CIA, FBI or any other organization can do to protect against it in an agressive fashion. It's the sole reason they are trying to get all the CCTV facial recog going as well as on street weapons screening, etc. Once shit goes down. If enough guys know who to hit and where they live, there isn't going to be much they can do about it. Just remember comsec is 100% if you don't share your thoughts with anyone and stay away from organized groups on a mission. good luck to anyone contemplating this.

Does anyone remember the police operations center that was discovered on wall street a couple years back. It was staffed by police and wall street employees. The whole set up was about running CCTV's around the various financial centers and using the employees to identify well dressed guys to see how many could be verified as "OK" vs. someone that needed checking out or watching. This is getting very sophisticated because the big dogs KNOW they are going to be hunted down. I wonder how many lone wolf attacks have been thwarted by this operation. I'm sure none would be reported (copy cat, intel, etc., as reasons not reported).

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:56 | 4359488 MeelionDollerBogus
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It's also why they spread the pacifist "violence doesn't solve anything" meme.
It's the one way to keep sheep in line so no lone wolf can liberate the populace.

That liberation is more than just a violent act: it's a sign you can survive & defeat a murderous enemy & will bring others to join in the fray on the right side.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:30 | 4357241 steadysteve
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Maybe we should start our own arms smuggling operation to the Mexican militias. A sort of moral "Fast and Furious".

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:38 | 4357275 Son of Captain Nemo
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"Of course, we have our own fight and our own enemies to contend with here in the United States. As this fight develops, we have much to learn from the events in Western Mexico."...

We certainly do have much to learn from these Mexican militia's. 

The biggest gift the American people could bestow on Mexico Central and South America for that matter along with the Middle East is if we held our Government responsible for the narcotics trade and drug trafficing through commerical banking institutions like this guy has already demonstrated, and follow it up with arrests or if necessary other means if they don't surrender for the treason and war crimes they've been blatantly committing in our names and with our money for the better part of 100 years since 1913.

 

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:53 | 4357333 knicks3005
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This world is so ass backwards. Failure is rewarded while doing the right thing leads to punishment. 

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:56 | 4357343 123dobryden
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civil war

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:56 | 4357344 roadhazard
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It's the wild wild west south of the border.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 07:13 | 4358241 Seize Mars
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It's the wild wild west north of the border as well, but with a very expensive and infeffectual overlay of government on top of it. The "government" doesn't civilize anything, they just steal and murder.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:05 | 4357364 logicalman
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Looking out at the world with a jaundiced, but, I think, a fairly sharp eye, the most likely outcome for humanity in the near future is a multiple-collapse situation.

The environment is at a really nasty tipping point, whether or not you have an opinion on global warming/climate change. Ecosystems are collapsing in the Pacific at a fairly low level of the food chain (sardines) which is guaranteed to have a huge knock-on effect. Add a touch of Strontium 90 and Cesium 137. Not a pretty picture.

The world's financial system, which directly causes most of the above mentioned problems, is now such a rigged fiction as to be laughable, if not for its negative effects on humanity. Systemic breakdown will lead to a lot of unpleasantness and could happen in a matter of hours in our inter-connected world.

But, it goes on - until it doesn't (hopefully while I'm typing)

Be prepared.

 

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:46 | 4359451 MeelionDollerBogus
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jaundiced ... it's full blown hepatitis a this stage.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:37 | 4357479 Smiley
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Of course Mexico sent troops to put the citizens back inline; the Cartels are in charge of 90% of government payrolls.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:23 | 4357630 bigrooster
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Is it just me or are people around the world begining to realize that we don't need the government, they need US!

Disclaimer:  FUCK you NSA, DHS, CIA, FBI, etc...

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:29 | 4357649 bigrooster
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May God bless and protect you Brandon.  Avoid the fate of that brit brat guy who pissed off obobo the clown.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:03 | 4357751 flyingcaveman
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Its not happening here yet because people still think the government and the cartel are not one and the same.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:07 | 4357771 Typing Typer
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Now those are some Mexicans I can respect. (as opposed to the illegal alien kind)

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:06 | 4358768 Mi Naem
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Why, Thank yo, massa. 

I do believes yo may be wun o da good whities. 

Ya bedpan. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:45 | 4359447 MeelionDollerBogus
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when you illegaly immigrate to escape the border controls, capital controls & drones dropping nerve gas blamed on Iran or Al Qaeda, how do you expect to be welcomed in another nation / territory / camp?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:18 | 4357809 Kirk2NCC1701
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"A well-organized Militia is a WMD: A Weapon of Mass Democratization." -Kirk

As such, TPTB/Centra_ Banksters will not allow it.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:36 | 4357854 lex parsimoniae
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Agreed however, I would say it this way:

A militia (well organized, perhaps not) already exists (over 100 million guns in private hands) but they are doing everything in their power to eliminate that obstacle.

Universal Truth: Bullies shrink from a fair fight. The Mexicans' actions confirm this axiom

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 07:55 | 4358264 messystateofaffairs
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Nothing trumps an organized program that shifts the balance of numbers from sheeple to freemen. Zerohedge and many other online entities are doing that, the internet is the common bond. On the ground programs will follow the individual mental conversions which must first take place. Hopefully this freedom spark will catch and spread like wildfire. What each individual does really matters, it can become visibly exponential at some point. Each person who understands should keep tilling freedoms ground, the event triggers that begin planting the tangible programs will come up soon enough. Educated players who revolutionize within the principles spectrum of true freedom are needed to reduce the chance of a sea-change jumping out of the fire and into the frying pan. 

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:31 | 4357847 atomicwasted
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Listen up, "Liberty Movement."  When someone shows up at your meetings, hangs around your websites, or otherwise starts to make a lot of noise about violent acts, you've just encountered an agent provocateur.  They're easier to spot in person - it's the really nice new guy who has plenty of time to help out with everything, but has no visible means of support and is vague about what he does for a living.  But they have the same hallmarks on line as well: primarily, urging the group (or its more unhinged members) to violence.  Don't be a noob and fall for that shit.  

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 03:20 | 4358120 atomicwasted
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Thanks for the upvotes.  I learned this shit the hard way.  One, there was this one unhinged asshole who was a peripheral member of our group who decided on his own to blow up an IRS building.  WTF?  Thankfully he didn't hurt anybody.  What did he hope to accomplish?  To blow up a janitor?  I mean, come on.  What do you think is going to happen when you detonate a bomb in a building at night?  All you're going to do is (1) hurt or kill someone you theoretically want to help, and (2) solidify public support for your target.  That guy deserved the sentence he got.

Two, this one dude started hanging around preaching that "state citizen" bullshit that's been quashed in every court it's ever shown up in.  He had no job, no recommendations; he just showed up and started telling us not to pay taxes and we'd all be OK.  ???  I don't believe in taxes, but I believed his bullshit even less.  Thankfully we bounced his ass from the group before anybody went to jail.

When you want to be a revolutionary, that's cool.  But understand it's about changing hearts and minds, and not about some shit you saw in a movie or some fake ass movie heroism.  "Patton" was right in part.  It's easy to die for what you believe in.  But it's a lot harder to live it day to day and keep delivering the message.

 

Keep delivering the message.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:42 | 4359433 MeelionDollerBogus
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but at the same time don't forget that without violence to secure liberty, there will be only violence put upon you - then you die.
Fighting back requires real fighting, not just words.
It's a delicate balance.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:49 | 4357985 European American
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The Real Deal...

 

Borderland Beat

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 06:22 | 4358215 Backtable
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Always outnumbered. Never outgunned.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 07:10 | 4358238 Seize Mars
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If there is anyone out there who is unclear on this, it should be starting to come into focus: the State is organized crime.

https://mises.org/daily/6162/DiLorenzo-Devastates-the-State

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 07:32 | 4358255 messystateofaffairs
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I am not Mexican or American but anyone who understands and stands up for freedom is always my "countryman".

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 09:11 | 4358366 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Mexican government is corrupt and backed by the cartels. I'm shocked I tell you shocked. Frankly the only thing that would have shocked me is the military responded in the opposite manner down there.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 09:11 | 4358367 Duude
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Mexican state corruption isn't the exception, its the M.O. of the Mexican government. Has been that way since the indigenous people were known as Mexicans. The last President at the very least fought the narco-traffickers, and the local police who were their hired stooges, but corruption extends far beyond just narcotics into everyday life. Part of the problem has to do with decades of economic incompetence leaving very little wealth but for authority. Its high time the Mexican people elect leaders for their willingness to fight the problem and indict corruption wherever it exists.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 10:20 | 4358619 Wtfcity
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People making comments saying that the military would have no problem firing on american citizensis a joke. Granted, most officers would follow orders and give the order. Those enlisted men who would carry out the order and arry the water not so much. I served in the military and we had this conversation. Realizing that we had numbers and knowing most officers are boot lickers who are despised by the lower enlisted we came to the conclusion that this wouldnt happen. Not only would this not happen but those giving the orders would face the judgement of the lower enlisted. Like in most heirarchies the officers are detached from reality and think they are above the common man. Trust, most enlisted would not participate and would turn on those giving such an order. Enlisted men are like family.They would not fire on another brothers family to protect those at the top whom they usually despise.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:00 | 4358747 Mi Naem
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Wtfcity, I believe that your experience and interpretation of it are sincerely expressed. 

However, note the events of the Boston Marathon clusterf*ck.  Militarized police effectively enforced Marshall Law, and virtually all citizens did not resist, and actual National Guard participated or stood by and watched while innocent civilians were taken from their homes at the barrel of a gun while frisked and questioned. 

After Katrina, militarized police went door-to-door at people's homes and confiscated lawfully held weapons, the only remaining source of protection for innocent citizens trying to defend their homes and families. 

When emotions run high, and the stakes for disobedience or rebellion seem higher than compliance with tyrannical immorally deployed authority, obedience will usually win for people who are relentlessly trained to immediately obey. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:28 | 4359372 MeelionDollerBogus
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+1
it's "martial" by the way, meaning "military law", not "Marshall" who is a person, best match is "Marshall Plan" which is not martial law. Just good to keep in mind. Agree with you 100%

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 15:35 | 4359909 Mi Naem
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Mae bee Eye kneed uh spill cheque her end aye this a russ. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:28 | 4359642 Overfed
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Martial law, dammit.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:49 | 4359713 Mi Naem
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Oops.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:23 | 4358833 Mesquite
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So...Gov't siding with criminals, again...

Hmmm..

Many conclusions to be drawn there..

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:47 | 4359144 evernewecon
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Ghandi understood clothes making monopoly.

He understood salt production monopoly.

He said don't lose heart.  Oligarchs want

you to lose heart, which is simply giving

up.

He said don't resist cause it gives 

reason for a forceful response.

 

Just sitting down may not work as

effectively today cause of the likes

of TPP, except if people in multiple locations

seek democracy simultaneously.

 

In banking, for instance, if those 

sectors were serving

democratic aims around the Pacific,

then sovereign debt mutually owed

walking dead banks could be mutually

cancelled, with that not actually

constituting default.

 

But the banks on each side of the 

Pacific would have to enter some

flavor or Resolution Trust.

 

The U.S. and Japan probably have

the most low lying fruit available

for that.

 

I'm guessing U.S. oligarchs found 

an eager ally in the samurai, with 

TEPCO being a Japanese flavored 

energy monopoly, with the U.S. 

originally the only supplier.

 

See:

http://pages.citebite.com/u2c6j4i3b3kxj

 

 

 

So, I'd disagree with this:

 

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/up-front/posts/2013/05/24-china-transpaci...

 

and be of the mind he's correct:

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=David+Pilling+TPP+exclusion+of+China

 

as China doesn't want to submit

to our oligarchs.

Actually, they have their own.

 

They've also understood monopoly 

ever since the marijuana monopoly.

 

It's from Mexico, of course, that 

came the expression

 

Los Hacendados Y

Los  Scientificos, The Haciendas

 And Their Scientists, conventionally,

I believe, 

 

las haciendas y sus científicos

(the estates and their scientists)

more literally.

Democratically grounded cooperation

should really be part of Mexico's

predisposition owing to this

heritage of tolerance.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_de_las_Tres_Culturas

 

This also explains why Mexico's pyramidal

tourism thrives, while Egypt's is troubled.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:25 | 4359362 MeelionDollerBogus
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just goes to show who the real heroes are & the real criminals. The police, soldiers & cartels are the real criminals.
the armed citizens are the heroes. Even in a lawless land like Mexico, run by cocaine & corruption, armed citizens bring true justice.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:59 | 4359755 Spore
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F*cking Awsome!! Had some good times in Mexico. Maybe someday I will be able to go back to Mexico as a tourist and feel safe partyin there again.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:32 | 4361484 Constitutional ...
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Creo que si. Never comply with the tyrant. The tyrant has power and the brute force of violence.

The people have numbers, neighbors and their right is might. No surrender.

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