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California: Before And After The Drought, And Why It's Only Going To Get Worse
While the Northeast is blanketed by another winter storm, California has its own, quite inverse, climatic problems in the form of a historic drought which as Bloomberg reports, is forcing farmers in the fertile central valley region to fallow thousands of acres of fields and has left 17 rural towns so low on drinking water that the state may need to start trucking in supplies. It is so bad that water reservoirs are at about 60 percent of average, according to state water data, and falling as rainfall remains at record low levels.
Unfortunately for our California readers, it is going to get worse before it gets better because mountain snowpack is about 12 percent of normal for this time of year. The following picture of California from January and a year ago shows just this dramatic difference, which confirms that there is little hope for the parched state.
Here is the WaPo's Reid Wilson explaining the above visual comparison:
The three-year long drought plaguing the western United States is only likely to get worse over the next year, forecasters and climate scientists say, given a dismal snowpack that has officials in many states worried. Despite a snowstorm earlier this week, the snowpack in the Sierra Nevada mountains stands at just 12 percent of the average level, the lowest measurement in the half-century records have been kept.
The low snowpack has serious consequences for the summer. Less snow means less summer runoff. Already, California has banned fishing in some drought-prone rivers. Gov. Jerry Brown (D) has asked residents to turn off the water while brushing their teeth. Earlier this week, President Obama called Brown to discuss the drought.
Earlier this month, Brown declared a state of emergency, urging residents to conserve water as much as possible. Several state agencies have said they plan to ration water throughout the summer. And already this year, several wildfires have broken out in areas of the state like Humboldt County, which is typically wet enough in the winter to mute any fire activity.
This of course is great news for America's already reeling economy, not to mention its stock markets and earnings growth-less corporations: it means one more excuse can be added to the arsenal of scapegoating, because while the latest snowstorm will come and go, even if it should provide "economists" and "analysts" with another reason to ignore "weaker than expected" February data, the aftereffects of Calfornia's drought will linger. And as everyone knows, Californians don't buy houses, cars, iPads, burgers, clothing, and generically, stuff, when there is a drought raging.
So bring on the bad data, and let it all be explained away by California's lack of snow, not to be confused with the overabundance of snow everywhere else.
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"drought"...and Fuku radiation...and Sodom..and Feinstein... and Pelosi...1100 gangs in LA...and Illuminati Hollywood/Disneyland..and massive illegal immigration draining the coffers...and San Onofrio astride San Andreas Fault...
Dude, dont get my hopes up
Skeptical of this kind of shit. 2011 there was RECORD snowpack. I couldn't Mountain Bike at Tahoe until almost September! Lets not start jumping to crazy conclusions.... they call it weather.
California needs to stop growing rice and cotton and force more growers into drip and circular irrigation.
Alfalfa consumes over 8 million acre feet of water per year in California. To put that number in perspective, 1 acre foot is just under 326,000 gallons. You can do the math...
Most of the hay is used to feed dairy cows. And California is the largest milk producing state.
So, we have a state that has questionable water supplies growing a crop that requires massive watering.
Go figure...
And what percentage of vegetables does the rest of America gets from there?
Their problem is a lot of people's problem.
I live in California and we just got some rain yesterday where I live (central coast), and we really needed it. However last year we had an early raining season in December but January and February were very dry. If the rain keeps coming through February then total rainfall for the winter will be around the same at the end of winter as last year. The real concern in my area is the lack of groundwater. I live in one of the most exploding wine regions in the world, and the grapes are sucking the water out of the ground at a rate never seen before (and yes I do mean grapes as most wineries around here are dry farmed). Also the lack of rain these last few years isn't helping. However imo wineries are the main cause of the lack of groundwater where I live. Many locals are starting to see the effects of the lack of groundwater. In the last 10 years there has been a huge die off of wild oak trees, while at the same time an exploding economy because of all those wine dollars finding there way here. Also many coastal communities in my area are starting to see salt water intrusion. For those of you who don't know, salt water intrusion occurs when there isn't enough groundwater to "push" the salt water out to sea. People are turning on the water in my local area and are literally getting sea water (which also could be slightly radioactive). Just another sign of our immaturity as a species.
communities in my area are starting to see salt water intrusion...
Here in Stockton, we have a seaport 80 miles inland. The salinity of the delta can be a problem as you mention. It’s likely to get worse as the twin pipeline to ship even more estuary water to socal takes place. Much of our fertile delta farms grow seed crop for other places as the peat dirt, weather and usually plentiful water make for lush growth. California hasn’t had a new reservoir built for nearly 50 years so our surface storage capabilities have no where nearly kept pace with the large scale big business farming co-ops expanding up and down the central valley.
Stockton sits 14’ above sea level so our delta water levels rise and fall with the tides in addition to the rise in salinity of the water used to grow these seed crops.. We could’ve / should’ve built a dike / lock system near the Antioch Bridge decades ago that would’ve prevented tidal erosion and controlled the salt water from entering the delta region. I can only imagine the forest needed to be cut down to supply the paper for the EIR the feds would require for that to occur now-a-days.
(BTW, we're not even halfway into winter yet and we typically get decent rains well into spring.)
Dude you WANT percipitation in the winter. That's the shit that becomes snow in the mountains and you WANT that to not melt for as long as possible.
Time to divert the Columbia. Now!
We have too much invested in California to let the place just dry up and blow away. Washington is way to wet, anyhow.
There was talk here in Idaho 5 to 10 years back when Cali wanted to tap into the Snake River. That didn't go far though.
Hey Californians, You live in a fucking desert!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0q4o58pKwA
Not really a fan of Kinison, but that hunger bit is hilarious.
What? Not a fan? Crestfallen.
why would CA ban fishing in low-water rivers? Fish are going to die anyway.
God is punishing them for hiring Jerry Brown AGAIN. IDIOTS.
//No, it's because they keep giving that pedophile awards.
People here say "fuck California" as if the body can survive without an upper torso.
I bailed from California years ago because I can't stand it there, but I do understand that its imminent failure will have consequences for us all. This is not an isolated issue.
They have hope and change.
They gave us Feistien and Boxer.
Their number one export is socialism.....in case you didn't know.
Fuck them.
I am Governor Jerry Brown
My aura smiles
And never frowns
Soon I will be president...
Carter Power will soon go away
I will be Fuhrer one day
I will command all of you
Your kids will meditate in school
Your kids will meditate in school!
[Chorus:]
California Uber Alles
California Uber Alles
Uber Alles California
Uber Alles California
Zen fascists will control you
100% natural
You will jog for the master race
And always wear the happy face
Close your eyes, can't happen here
Big Bro' on white horse is near
The hippies won't come back you say
Mellow out or you will pay
Mellow out or you will pay!
[Chorus]
Now it is 1984
Knock-knock at your front door
It's the suede/denim secret police
They have come for your uncool niece
Come quietly to the camp
You'd look nice as a drawstring lamp
Don't you worry, it's only a shower
For your clothes here's a pretty flower.
DIE on organic poison gas
Serpent's egg's already hatched
You will croak, you little clown
When you mess with President Brown
When you mess with President Brown
[Chorus]
I see a future. Where the CA's and the NV's, NM et et al will be the new "east Germans" right after the wall fell. Gird yourselves my friends and "stay thirsty"....mmm beer.
Lyndon LaRouche has a plan -
http://aquadoc.typepad.com/waterwired/2010/09/mega-project-nawapa-redux....
Reverse dustbowl. Don't come *here*.
Reverse? If by that you mean people will be moving back to Oklahoma, sure.
Yards, golf courses and wineries.
Each house having these little goatees of yard in the front is just absurd. Golf courses are an artifact of what CA used to be ... let them blow away if need be. Lastly, let the wineries take a year off.
Wineries take a year off??? Do you kick puppies for fun?
/sarc
MH, I sympathize as you have seen it going all the way down and a lot further to go. I have only been here 23 years.
Indeed I love golf and had a golf scholarship (albeit in Central Illinois - we were about as good as a middling CA high school team). But even I have to recognize it's GAME OVER for the ol' PENSION crowd. Like I will ever see a fucking pension. I'll be fighting for scraps of runover dog meat on Clayton Road at this rate ... the pensiones shall have to pick up a book and a hash pipe like I do ... take a walk, run the golden foothills ...
Yeah, the wineries; another ARTIFACT along with jackalope postcards and Winnebagoes.
My wife and I are pulling the plug on the auto-water and watering the garden by hand to save. We are also going back to the 10-gallon pail in the shower to salvage runoff.
It does not need to be this bad; there are many ways to stop wasting so much water.
I do covet my pool though - intending to drink out of it when that becomes necessary.
So your garden will be covered in public hair from all that shower water?
Filter baby, filter ...
Meat Hammer, it's the yards mahn. I see it all around me - watering watering watering. Boulders and scrub will do just fine, Arizona-style.
+1 LOL. Hongcha, I'm a native Californian. If my toes don't feel the cool caress of green grass on my front lawn, I and the rest of my neighbors in suburbia will flip the fuck out!
"Unfortunately for our California readers, it is going to get worse before it gets better because mountain snowpack is about 12 percent of normal for this time of year."
Actually Tyler(s), it's going to get worse before it gets better for everyone as this causes food prices to skyrocket.
The blocking pattern that brings the drought to California also brings the cold and storms to the eastern USA. It also floods tropical air into Alaska who enjoy temperatures 30-40 degress above normal. 61 degrees in Seward the other day. Last week a rain storm hit the North Slope Oil Fields in late January. Something natives have never seen, let alone the recent arrivals, the oil workers. Northern Scandianvia is under the influence of the blocking pattern, setting record warm temps and wild fires above the arctic circle in Norway in January. Siberia has had a record hot summer and fall, with all time record tundra and tiga fires, followed by the polar vortex cold snap, this cold snap being the air normally over the north pole, but displaced to the south by record warm tropical air over the high Arctic.
Be aware, the northern jet stream is now meandering and getting locked into place by high pressure areas that would normally not be able to budge this high level river of air. But since the arctic is so warm from summer sunshine on the dark waters, that the temperature difference between high and lower latitudes are now too small to lock the jet stream in place. Why is New England so cold, the arctic cold air mass was split in two, one half no over New England, the other over Siberia. While Pacific tropical air has flooded into the high arctic. Global weather maps show this clearly and 5 minutes on google would offer hundred of various images of this pattern over the last few months. This type of split polar votex is rather new to weather records, though it happens, it has never happened to such an extreme degree as now.
I suggest keeping an eye on Iceland, Greenland and the arctic sea ice this summer. Unless something changes fast, record melts are in the works. A side effect of Iceland's rapidly melting mountain glaciers is the pressure of trillions of tons of ice is being removed over a series of highly active volcanoes, several of which are already uplifting the land making up their cones. One in particular could blow in the next few years.
In this world, everything is related.
The problem with your stream of logic is that americans barely know/care about what's going on in the next state over, let alone on the other side of the world. The rest of the world could be on fire, and as long as one person thinks a part of the us is cold, they'll cry and cry about how it's all a scam.
Jack, as an infrequent poster but dedicated lurker I gotta say that I always look forward to your posts. They are articulate and informative although I suppose it could be all bullshit. Frankly I can't figure out if you are CIA or a freakin meterologist. Whatever -keep it up. Perhaps you will become the new "World's Most Interesting ZH Poster"
Bitchin Bear, Thanks for the kind words. I am just a person with lots of interests who reads alot. Not CIA, but former Navy man. Just your aveage ZH reader. I do love science of all sorts, especially physics, so weather is just physics in the atmposphere!
Jack I will ditto his remark. Always read yours (and Flak) posts. Great posts.
Did you ever watch Big Trouble in little China?
Got my screen name from "Big Trouble in Little China"! Love that film, so funny. I used to post as James Cole, from "12 Monkeys" on Mish Shedlocks board. I left Mish due to his constant posts attacking working people, I respect Mish's smarts, but the blind hate for those who work in America is mindless, so I left. Someone stole my James Cole and uses it here on ZH, it is not me, though he added a _ to James_Cole so as not to be exactly my old screen name.
Also, "Flak" is very brave to post real information on weather and climate. If you want to get trolled, just mention the real climate change underway. I respect other's opinions, BUT, physics is not open to opinions, unless you are talking the higher levels of particle physics and such, where information is not complete.
It isn't a question of bravery, it is about standing up for rationality...
The old hands will recall the Peak Oil wars here, now the Energy threads are probably the most civil as the bullshitters and clowns have all been called out. It's pretty amazing that everyone here basically believes in science and the results and methodology except for two things, evolution and climate change.... Too much ideological baggage it would seem.. Well the silent majority is making itself heard in the climate debate...
There is a lot of physics that is in the realm of legitimate debate, dark matter and dark energy are two of the biggest questions...
Ironically, particle physics right now might be one of the tightly constrained arenas out there.. If may not be aesthetically satisfying but the Standard Model is consistent all the way to the Planck scale (the scale at which space-time itself becomes quantum mechanical)....
Here is todays temperature anomaly data:
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/DailySummary/output/T2_anom_satellite1.jpg
The Arctic is currently ~11 F above normal...
Here is the current Jet Stream
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/250hPa/orthographic=-...
Click on "earth" to look at ocean currents and surface winds in essentially real time..
Flak, The arctic sea ice, Greenland and Iceland should all be watched closely this summer. This might, I say might, be the year all denial is lost. Of course weather patterns could unlock and change, but on the present course, big things will happen up north. I would go long Greenland minerals exploration. In a few years, as the ice goes, great finds will come into the news up there.
A replay of the 1998 El Nino would scare the living shit out of a lot of people. You will start hearing discussions about S02 spraying....
I agree the spring melt will be very interesting to watch, last year under the best weather conditions for ice we still had the 6th lowest minimum. And eyeballing the data, there is a chance that the upcoming maximum (Early March) could be the lowest in the satellite era...
No doubt there will be finds in Greenland, hopefully not for 100 years or so....
Great post Flak! You hit the nail on the head. All serious climate students are waiting with fear the return of a strong El Nino. Given the present heating bias, and the enormous amount of heat the oceans have taken up in the last decade, we should fear El Nino!
Right now, warm tropical air is flooding the high arctic. Ice is at a near record low, I think 3rd lowest on record right now. Summer could bring another record melt, but it is not linear, there may be jerks in the yearly downward collapse of sea ice and high arctic glaciers in Greenland.
People can not deny much longer, evidence is mounting at a rate no scientist ever dared predict. We are 50 years ahead of the models IF not MORE!
The ZH of Arctic ice. Like ZH, many fascinating comments by seriously knowledgeable people but obviously a much smaller community. For fun, they call for predictions at the beginning of the melt season. Two seasons to go before Paris 2015 ; )
Arctic Sea Ice Blog by neven
Neven does a great job....
Very cool link, you can rotate the earth N, S, E, W to view the entire planet
Awesome isn't it....
You can also select altitude (expressed in terms of atmospheric pressure)....
For shits and giggles, compare the uniformity of the Antarctic jet stream to the Arctic jet stream...
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And this is what a historical cold snap looks like, notice that the arctic is frigid...
February 1979
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/CR_blog/images/1-27-2014/CFSR_NH_T2_anom_1979-...
" The Arctic is currently ~11 F above normal... "
Hype.
How do you think the world 'cools down'? The arctic is the 'evaporator' of the world's air conditioning system. Warm air goes in and COLD DAMN AIR comes out ...
Did you know that smart azz?
We're heading for a cooling phase, denier.
Since you are such an expert, what the is the relative importance of the ocean and atmosphere as far as heat capacity?
Given the answer to the first question, exactly how does the earth cool off in your model?
Thanks. Tell me why ocean water temps are unusually high in northern Pacific.. I've yet to figure it out.. But it is the driving force behind most of this wild winter weather.
Here in South Cali it usually rains from Jan-March, sometimes as far into May...last few years not so much. The sun is the weather's master, and it does some crazy shit, so patterns come and go. All the hills are brown, parched and dying. All it'll take is one cigarette to go wild and piles of liberals will see their huge investments in Malibu go up overnight. Topanga is a deathtrap, Agoura is a tinderbox.
But I'll certainly tell you the aerosol spraying has gotten crazy dense over the last three years as well. The sky at times looks like the lines at Nasca in Peru. I don't know if it has a direct effect, but my feeling is it's impossible for it to be inert. That shit's fucking poison.
But things'll be fine if we just buy an Xbox and twerk with all our favourite stars.
The cycle in South Cali is like this:
Dry
Fires
Rain
Mudslides
over and over and over again. And no, it's not "chemtrails", get over yourself you crazy nutjob.
+1 for it's not "chemtrails". God only knows how that chemtrails stuff just keeps going like the energizer bunny.
All you have to do is look up to see them.
Some days it's opressively heavy. Contrails used to last 30 seconds back when I was young. Now planes spew these vapourous lines that persist for miles on end, they last for hours, and spread into these wretched milky artificial clouds. That did not happen 40 years ago.
I agree that the drought is part of the cali weather cycle, I've seen it for 50 plus years. But, the aerosol program is very real, it's physical, you can see it, it's there now, and it didn't used to be.
"That did not happen 40 years ago."
I'm in my early 50's and you are full of shit.
I'm a believer in some conspiracy theories, but this chemtrail thing is just beyond wacko.
Sigh.. no. http://contrailscience.com/thirty-contrails-forty-years-ago/
Let me guess, it goes all the back to WW II....
here let me google that
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=image+wwII+contrails
There must have been well over a million people in on the consipracy, from people building and designing planes, the ground crews, not to mention the pilots...
nah, I don't agree with the guy that says you're full of shit. I say you're just STUPID.
those contrails disappate depending on the WIND up there. also the planes are generally flying HIGHER than they used to, so less upper atmospheric wind to disapate the condensation.
Sheesh.
It's a good thing we weren't allowed to catch rain water when it was, you know, raining. Makes perfect sense.
Only domestic hydroterrorists collect rainwater!
The NSA just flagged your newly-coined "hydroterrorists" term and sent it to DHS for profiling purposes. Gee, thanks a lot, akak.
Well, we have to fight them over here so we can continue to fight them over there .... er, did I get that right?
Grapes of Wrath Part 2
Global Drying.
I heard robins singing in the woods on January 19th the last day of deer season in northern Illinois. I saw five robins on January 23rd. They are the harbingers of spring and I have never in my 58 years seen a robing before the first week of March in northern Illinois or in Michigan where I grew up. Robins cannot eat earthworms through 18 inches of snow and ice. The world is groaning. We ain't seen nothing yet. Stay thirsty my friends. Always keep one eye on your bobber.
Bud Ice Light or straight "Jack"?
Either way, those weren't 'Robbin calls' ...
i'll tell ye what, lets talk at the end of april and see where we are then
if it is that dry in February, they are in serious trouble long before September.
Thank you armchair almanac water science expert! What would California do without you?
Thank you armchair almanac water science expert!
Your welcome.
What would California do without you?
Bujild millions of houses in the northernmost part of the Sonora desert?
Those goofy Californians could plant hemp and remove all of that radiation from Fukushima radiating their air, water and land along with having a new cash crop. Create a 'radiation cleansing grow zone' with hemp crops; be a repository and a panacea for all things radioactive, hemp as the knight in shining armor. All your radiation to us belong says the California hemp grower.
They could receive a grant from the US gov for one trillion dollars and make even more money on radioactive isotope etfs with cesium at the top of the list.
Forget CO2 emissions, radioactive emissions cleansing is where the money is.
Radioactive cleansing sinks, hemp crops to absorb radioactive pollutants, repositories, are the future for California.
A capture system could monitor and meter the reduction in radiation as a result of California's agricultural remediation of radioactive particles.
California can dry up and blow away, hemp will save the day.
I ate bacon this morning and it is time for more beer.
Has anyone noticed the same tone in the scare tactic?
Congress created the dustbowl.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/06/21/hannity-again-disc...
The government is strying to rob us for water. This is well- like, theft. Congress as I just mentioned commit eminent domain without compensation by way of ecoterrorists, aka. "endangered species" saving 503c of the day.
After ghetto stupid PR cried "WOLF!" enough times- nobody is going to believe them except for the dingbat gullible baby boomer goofs still yearning for the summer of love acid trips. ANd unfortunately, the dumbass boomer majority dominate California which is why it's so fucked up.
Hey guys, gotta tell you a little secret.
California is a desert. :)
****Deserts are permanent droughts.***
Shhhh, don't tell anyone. This is a REALLY big secret we're trying to keep to ourselves so the state can like, maybe sell our water to Oregon where it rains a lot and charge us up the ass for it like Gray Davis did with energy. I'm merely speculating, but don't put any bit of stupidity past our legislators here in duhmerica. This is a gouging game.
Boomers, democrats and Liberals condoned TARP, they'll totally fall for this one.
Watch.
It has not been green anywhere between LA and San Francisco on the 5 unless we get "Mist Oregon" - which is really spelled "missed Oregon".
We get El Nino, La Nina, Santa Anas, etc. It never rains in Southern California.
The only drought is in Nancy Pelosi's subsidized kosher liquor cabinet and between her ears.
So you get your history from cable news entertainment shows?
It' evident....
Flak is the guy who shoots the messenger; it's plainly evident.
Note he has no quibble with low-rated CNN or PMSNBC.
You are trolling hard, but I don't think any one will nibble today....
FWIW, I dont watch any cable news channel, life is too short...
I don't think most people understand what California is really facing? Last Friday the State's water resource dept announced there would be 0% Delivery come April! They announced this to legally protect themselves from the disaster that is going to take place. Pretty much their telling municipalitys you are on your fricken own and if your supply runs dry call FEMA... I rode my dirt bike on Folsom Lake the other night and all that is left is the original American River in most places. The lake is gone...Really, old mining towns are been seen again for the first time since they built the dam in 1955. This is going to be a mega disaster, I live here and can tell you California can bring the rest of America down very easily if a major disaster like we are about to witness....
Do a Google search for Folsom Lake CA drought pictures. You will be amazed at what you see. Also read the other day that the feds are planning the same thing at the end of this month if precipitation does not improve.
In the 1200's there was a western drought that lasted the better part of 100 years. Today, off Camp Richardson at South Lake Tahoe, there is an underwater forest with pine trees 6-10" in diameter (full grown trees) that have been carbon dated to that drought period. There is another underwater forest in nearby Fallen Leaf Lake dated to the same period. These trees grew at elevations well below the natural Tahoe rim elevation and the drought clearly lasted long enough for the lake to evaporate down to that level and then stay down long enough for pine seeds to be blown into the now exposed area, germinate, take root and then grow to their current size under those drought conditions. As I said this all lasted the better part of 100 years. This was the local (I'm in Reno) consequence of a GREAT drought affecting a huge area. Across the west from Colorado to California Native American cultures collapsed and, in their last days, at least some have been shown to have resorted to cannibalism. I expect that this drought, however long it persists, will be blamed by many on the Global Warming Ogre. I may be mistaken but I believe that this type of drought is associated with La Nina (cool) conditions in the equitorial central pacific. Wet conditions are associated with El Nino conditions with warming the case out there. So if we are suffering from anthropogenic global warming how does that cool the central Pacific? I'm confused. Maybe the sun is a more variable star than generally recognized and it is a big contributor to all these changes.
Regardless of the causes just pause for a minute and consider the consequence of a similar 100 year great drought! What if it lasts a mere 30 to 50 years? Be afraid, very afraid.
I was driving and listening to a talk station a few months ago and heard a story about some extreme climatic condition called "air river" when warm moist air from the pacific (like a pineapple express freight train) just moves massive amounts of moisture into the west coast causing massive flooding and creating a large lake of the central valley.
From many courses in geology what I did learn is that the human population thrived in some part to petroleum, but mostly to do the fact that the last few thousand years have geologically very quiet. There are remnants of massive volcanoes in the US and around like russia, india, indonesia. The world yet to see a super massive volcanic episode to block out the sun, destroy fresh water resources, kill crops, plunge temperatures into an ice age. Not biblical stuff, just the planet being itself. Just a matter of time. We can expect drastic climatic changes just as matter of tiny variations in the solar energy.
Hell, if the Yellowstone Caldera blows, it'd wipe out most of North America. Rest of the planet wouldn't be too keen on it, either.
Yeah, you forgot to add the part about the paleoclimatic data from measurements such as tree rings and stream-flow reconstructions that show that much more extreme weather occurred on our planet long before humans had cars and coal-fired power plants. So, we should just keep doing what we are doing and let whatever happens, happen?
All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray.
I've been for a walk on a winter's day.
I'd be nuked and warm if I was in L.A.;
California dreamin' on such a winter's day.
Surely the answer is to let in tens of millions more illegal immigrants, vote amnesty as long as they all go to Kalifornia.
I also bet the golf courses will stay watered.
Just checked Bloomberg and it is showing the Dow Jones down 100%.
Did "IT" happen?
Dow Jones Industrial Average 0.00 -100.00% 0.00 0.00 0.00 19:51:1this is great, just think of the massive infrastructure projects your tax dollars can pay for to transport the snow from the east coast to the west coast: an underground bullet snow freight subway, a giant canal for large snow cargo ships, billions of amazon drones flying coast to coast to drop snow in the mountains. Hell, why not load some snow and each passenger and freight jetliner heading west.
Paul Krugman, is that you?
If only the bullet train was up and running.
"bullet train"? Bullets are illegal in California. How about the "train to nowhere"?
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Must be a lead free bullet
I gave up on California a long time ago.
California needs to ban farming until the drought is over. About 25% of the state's water is traditionally taken up by cotton, rice and animal feed. All three use lots of water. Most farmers in CA depends on nearly free water from the gov't. If they had to pay a market price, the farmers wouldn't make a profit.
That would crush the US economy. A large percentage of produce for the US is grown in the central valley. There is already talk of a head of lettuce will be $5 or more by the end of summer. With every thing else that is going wrong with the economy, this could turn into a "perfect storm".
Not only crush the economy, the majority of produce supplied to the world comes from CA. I think something like 90% of the artichokes in the world come from Watsonville, CA. Soylent Green bitchez!
California needs to ban farming until the drought is over. About 25% of the state's water is traditionally taken up by cotton, rice and animal feed. All three use lots of water. Most farmers in CA depends on nearly free water from the gov't. If they had to pay a market price, the farmers wouldn't make a profit.
How about sending all the illegal immigrants in California back home.
There are estimates of 4 million illegals in CA alone, with a very very conservative estimate of 3 gallons of water use per person, per day, that would free up about 12,000,000 gallons a day. - over 4 billion gallons of water per year!!
We all know why the illegals come to the USA and would most likely do the same if we were in their shoes but I think it is time to hold the Mexican government accountable. They have no interest in taking care of their own people when they can pass the problem onto the US taxpayer. Oh yeah they have a socialist government rife with corruption and surprise - it doesn't work.
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Here in San Diego we are enjoying the crap out of our 70 degree winter days of late. The water will come, always does. That map showing no snow pack in Jan can change in a week.
Would not trade places with you blue toes burning hundreds of dollars a month in oil or gas to keep yourself "warm" for anything.
Greetings from Paradise.
(From a blessedly former East coaster)
I wouldn't live in that glorified desert for all the rice in China.
In the mean time the entire southern CA cannot exist without AC which burns far more energy than any heating furnace.
But you guys have Pelosi and her ilk - so you have that going for you.
[Meanwhile, the ideological mindset in California has created a regulatory environment where it has taken 12 years to get the permits and to successfully overcome all legal challenges to build a single desalination plant on the California coast. There is NO shortage of water, there is only water that costs too much for the intended use. After all, Federal Express is happy to deliver pallet loads of bottled water shipped via overnight airfreight from Fiji or Iceland.
Desalination consumes energy. If the true cost is passed on to the consumer, people are going to scream bloody murder. Even if large-scale desalination capability comes on line, there's no way to produce enough for the farming of the wrong crops in the wrong place.
While northern towns in the state are under mandatory rationing, southern California says they have plenty and they are not about to ration.
Just wait till the cork is installed in the canal inlet.. They'll be screaming like a bunch of ticks looking for red blood to survive.
KEEP WATERING THOSE GOLF COURSES BABY, WATER!!!
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Peolpe seem to forget that the Central Valley was a desert when the 49ers arrived.
still is a desert
The perfect place for tract home suburban communities, irrigated lawns and swimming pools right?
Drought has to be bullish for California home prices.
Picher looks like a crooked pussy with and without baby powder.
Don't youins know that all those stripey things up in the sky painted thar by those high-up airplains is beading up all california watter soz it dumps on Crawford ranchez and other places. Cee, cuz them rich fukers, what do this in secret, figger it is every set of swingin' balls for her or hiz self, and fuk y'all.
Everyone shocked by this news may want to sit down... California is a desert. You get droughts now and then. The impending water shortage is largely man made. California allocates a huge portion of its water to preserve the endangered Delta smelt, it charges less to farmers that use water intensive agriculture than urban communities, it hasn't invested in water infrastructure in decades despite the fact that population has soared, and on, and on. Now politicans blame it all on the weather. Please.
Yes, you do get droughts. And that's why you don't implode the state with rampant immigration. We are a high-tech country now. We don't need immigrants any of them. If they will let OUR children have the spots in colleges and universities then we have plenty of well-educated Native citizens to fill our job spots(1/2 of the Masters and Phd spots go to foreign students because they drink up that foreign student money like it's blood at the universities).
We just did a major risk study on California, and a few other western states. Rising ocean water temperatures are changing wind patterns over our oceans as record atmospheric C02 is heating things up . The Pacific atmospheric belt, Leeuwin current, ENSO, the Arctic Oscillation, etc., are all getting screwed up in the worst way from human activity… California and other western states get 75% of their freshwater supplies from snowpack, which has been melting fast-- so this is just the beginning of major drought problems to come for the west coast. The Sierra Nevada snowpack could be completely gone by the end of this century, for example. Millions of acres of forests from Alaska down are being ravaged by insects (21 million acres in Washington state in 2012) from the unusually warm temperatures. States like Washington, which gets 70%+ of its electricity from hydro, may see good times now as flooding from snowpack melt delivers, but they are bad long-term investments (78k megawatts per year in U.S. at risk from western drought). The timber industry is going to hurt too. All those lakes you love fishing in in Alaska are drying-up as well. We also see the U.S. being pulled into uncomfortable disputes over water in the Middle East. More than 98% of freshwater from the Jordan river is being diverted for drinking water to Israel now, while 80%+ of Jordan’s population lives in the lower Jordan river basin (future conflict?). The proverbial shit is hitting the fan and it’s happening on such a massive scale, that we are don’t realize that little drop of shit that just hit us in the face in the form of extreme weather, is just the beginning of what could be a bucket of shit that will cover our planet.
Let's see your raw 'data' CAGW believer ... otherwise it's smoke you are a-blowing.
Rising ocean temps my azz!
AS an fyi..consider...around the time that Clinton took office, California was at 29 Million people, by the time he left office he had added ten MILLION people to California, not counting the illegals. Now, remove the illegals, remove all the birth drop babies taxing the schools, welfare, and health systems, and remove the Ten MILLION pushed into California through purportedly "legal" (aka the Greatest Ponzi Scheme ever perpetrated on the citizens of the US) system, and California's water woes don't seem nearly as bad. This is the "other" problem of immigration. We are not a flop house for the world, and cannot push our states to the edge thinking that we can manage, somehow. Every person who has ever read the Bible knowns that the simplest rule is to keep a lot held back for the difficult times. Farmers also abide by this kind of stewardship. Only the dumb liberals think you push the ecological limits to their utmost because you are so sure nothing will "ever happen."
Good luck, California. You are in serious trouble.
BTFD
Holy macaroni!
On the Rense show right now, they are discussing this story that we were discussing last week.
http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm
It is a purposely created high pressure zone (haarp) to keep the radiation off california. So far, so good. If the people were getting rained on, the radiation detectors would all be going off loudly all over the net in the citizen reporting. Since there is no real truthful reporting about the fukushima Extinction Level Event in the govt reporting, or the lame stream media that is complicit in the population elimination agenda, the people have to do it themselves. The babylonians want to keep the prosperity of californian going as long as the charade can last. They have to crash the economy, instill martial law, declare war on all Americans, and then start a war to cover up this massive radiation onslaught that is hitting harder and harder every day. At this time, there seems to be no stopping it. In the end, everyone loses, life. What is going to be the worst part, is when they purposely start the forest fires that will run rampant with no way to fight them. The real agenda being to disperse all that radiation into the smoke that will choke the rest of the country for months. America is downwind of the evil winds that have been specially created just for them. It's called...CHANGE!!!
On a different note, saw a special forces swat team in a black no markings Humvee today.
There goes the neighborhood.
" It is a purposely created high pressure zone (haarp) to .. "
Another ID 10T who did not get the memo .. HAARP is no longer being FUNDED.
Geesh ...
I read an interesting article in Nat. Geo. a few years ago called, "The Drying of the West". They took core samples of some of the oldest trees in the world in the bristlecone pine forests of California. What they discovered is that the 20th century was the wettest in the last 2500 or so years. Hmmm, that is just about the time we built all those cities out West. Well, guess what. They suggested that the Western United States is returning to more normal levels of precipitation and that this trend will continue for the foreseeable future. Suck it up California, you are going to be truckin' water.
This is a good article. It is worth the read if you have an interest in such matters:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/02/drying-west/kunzig-text
;-D
Wait for it... wait for it... CLIMATE CHANGE! - man made of course - especially conservatives - they drink so much damn water!
Thanks for the informative link. +1
They grow lettuce in the frigging desert and are surprised when they run out of water???
California has had water problems since the 1930s. They knew this was coming but they just kept right on building. We are humans, a particularly nasty species of lemmings. We always do this. Saudi Arabia is out of water. Iran is out of water. California is out of water. Prosperity breeds insanity and, well, just more breeding. Baby, it's time for war. Let's go you lemmings, right off the cliff.
Lettuce? They even grow rice and cotton!
That Larson ranch grows so much rice they export it to Japan and other asian countries. They pay 1/12 the price a non farm user pays for water. Basically they pay so little for water they waste a ton of it.
duplicate
Monterey County Historical Society, 2000.
This book chronicles how they had water problems in the 1930s, but they just kept expanding the population and water intensive row crops like lettuce. I think another Dust Bowl is on its way, and California is it this time.
I don't like artichokes and avocados anyway.
It would be a shame to see Gilroy go tits up because you never can have enough garlic.
If it gets dry enough, Californians can recross the land bridge to Siberia. Lots of room to spread out there.
Siberia, where the peoples teeth have been eaten away by chemicals used in fracking getting into the water
Payback for Owen's Valley.
You get what you deserve you cronies!
Hey there feller,
Did ya know that the Owens Valley is in California? So isn't this like punchin a guy in the face for being ugly?
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/feb/04/how-have-you-been-aff...
Let's get something straight, California hasn't changed one bit. California is in a perpetual drought of sorts, as it has been well before the last 10 generations. Some years are drier than others but its all the same. What's differnent is the water management being led by the governor. The governor is trying to protect the Delta Smelt. The Delta Smelt needs fresh water to transport it to the ocean where all that fresh water is disposed. Now when snow pack is having an off year, the state is in bad shape. Instead of investing $100B in another Amtrak (Brown's hope for legacy) The state ought to be encouraging private industry to invest tens of billions in nuclear power plants that can desalinate sea water.
Yeah, while Californian's won't have anything to drink or bath with, or anything to sustain agriculture, they can at least take comfort in several not-bullet trains to nowhere since billions are being spent for those trains instead of for high-efficiency, self-sufficiency desalination plants like those just finished in Israel which will give that perpetually drought-prone country a water SURPLUS!(Excepting San Diego of course, which has a massive RO plant due to come online in 2016.)
Weather modification = drought = small farm bankruptcy = corporate farm land grab. Rinse and repeat (no pun intended). "Whisky is for drinking and water is for fighting over". Mark Twain
" Weather modification "
Of what? Cloudless skies?
I'll bet you don't even know the boiling point of water let alone the freezing point ...
"Fruit loops" = marchare
When it don't rain, IT DON'T RAIN, Boy!