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Iran Sends Warships Toward US In "Message To America"
The strategy of appeasement, such as the one recently enacted by the US toward Iran, has its pros and cons: the pros are that the thawing in traditionally icy relations may lead to better trade relations and the spread of the debt-funded Pax Americana to one more country. There are also cons, like for example the "appeased" country no longer terrified of the "appeaser", whose resolve it will then commence testing until the credibility of its presumed superpower is tested by increasingly more. This is precisely what America's enemy number 1 (if mostly for public consumption) until recently, Iran, has just done.
Iranian warships dispatched to the Atlantic Ocean will travel close to U.S. maritime borders for the first time, a senior Iranian naval commander said Saturday. The fleet, consisting of a destroyer and a helicopter-carrying supply ship, began its voyage last month from the southern Iranian port city of Bandar Abbas. The ships, carrying some 30 navy academy cadets for training along with their regular crews, are on a three-month mission.
The commander of Iran's Northern Navy Fleet, Admiral Afshin Rezayee Haddad, said the vessels have already entered the Atlantic Ocean via waters near South Africa, the official IRNA news agency reported.
Reuters reports, citing Admiral Haddad, that "Iran's military fleet is approaching the United States' maritime borders, and this move has a message."
The message is simple: you give an inch, and they take a mile. For now Iran is just testing how much it can get away with as the US seeks to appease the nation as part of its latest diplomatic directive. And as long as the US does not respond vigorously, Iran will continue testing.Then again considering that the US 5th naval fleet is positioned in Iran's backyard just across the Persian Gulf, can anyone blame them?
More from Reuters:
Haddad, described as commander of the Iranian navy's northern fleet, said the vessels had started their voyage towards the Atlantic Ocean via "waters near South Africa", Fars reported.
Fars said the plan was part of "Iran's response to Washington's beefed up naval presence in the Persian Gulf.
In Washington, a U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, cast doubt on any claims that the Iranian ships were approaching U.S. maritime borders. But the official added that "ships are free to operate in international waters."
The United States and its allies regularly stage naval exercises in the Gulf, saying they want to ensure freedom of navigation in the waterway through which 40 percent of the world's seaborne oil exports passes.
U.S. military facilities in the region include a base for its Fifth Fleet in the Gulf Arab kingdom of Bahrain. Iran sees the Gulf as its own backyard and believes it has a legitimate interest in expanding its influence there.
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Fars said the Iranian navy had been developing its presence in international waters since 2010, regularly launching vessels in the Indian Ocean and the Gulf of Aden to protect Iranian ships from Somali pirates operating in the area.
And while we await to see what the US response to this unprovoked Iranian aggression (as it will be penned by the media) will be, here is the most recent breakdown of US Naval forces around the world protecting all of America's national interests.
Finally here is the just tweeted take by the Pentagon:
Iran ships to US waters? Aspirations not new. Freedom of seas applies to all, so long as they understand responsibilities of that freedom.
— Rear Adm. John Kirby (@PentagonPresSec) February 9, 2014
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Do they have arrows or they just want to defect?
+ Send some Realtors out there with some Detroit C-Store listings.
This is a non event. A destroyer and a helicopter? With trainees?
Even the Canadian Navy could easily take care of them. This is just some kind o.f visit to Cuba or Venezula, if they even get that far. Given the weather we have had this year the cold Atlantic air will send them home anyway. Shit regular -10C weather doesn't comapre to the 33C they left. They'll fuck off soon enuf
They may indeed visit Cuba as part of their cover story. The real purpose of the mission, apart from its propaganda value back home, is probably to host a secret meeting between high level US and Iranian diplomats. Either that, or they are exchanging something at sea. I'll leave it to the reader to speculate on what that might be.
If OblowMe is part of the High Level US delegation we can all stop speculating on what they'll be exchanging at sea.
Sea men?
YAARRRRR, blow me down!!!
Re: "Shit regular -10C weather doesn't comapre to the 33C they left. They'll fuck off soon enuf"
Let's wash away some mental muck:
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Two ships with a bunch of kids aboard.
How about some good old American hospitality, why not invite them to some easy to get to port with good weather when scheduled to arrive and give them a tour of some of America's finest? Offer visas and see how many go back:-)
An invitation like that would not be a bad idea, and in fact has precedents:
http://tinyurl.com/k7tt64d
"Offer visas and see how many go back:-)"
Cold War anecdote:
1981, about the time of the rise of Solidarno??, we had 3 or 4 Polish trawlers docked in Vancouver. This wasn't unusual - a lot of East Block fishing vessels used Canadian ports to resupply and for shore leave. This time, however, most of the crews defected and they couldn't leave for lack of personnel. So they flew new crews out, only to have them defect as well. I don't know how they got their ships out of there - maybe they hired crews from the Philippines to take them to Cuba or something, but they were stuck there for months.
I know this because the refugee agency I did some work for had a sudden influx of Polish sailors. Either things were really bad in Poland back then, or they saw the end of communism coming and decided to bail while they still could, using the East Block refugee gambit which was an automatic in back then.
The place isn't a complete backwater. I've worked with Iranian project managers. They're proud of their home.
A Journey to IRAN by ISA at Penn State University (c/o YouTube)
And the message is, "we are stupid and pathetic".
Hmmm...what's the media trying to distract us from with this? Or maybe the strategy is to pretend this is no big deal then use a drone to shoot a couple of Hellfires at Miami Beach, blame it on the Iranians, then go attack Syria because they're all brown people and what's the difference?
An imploding middle class, Humana announcing its gonna tap the "risk corridor" built into ObamaCare to keep its bottom line from disintegrating...ya know, the usual stuff.
Oh, nobody heard about Humana?
"There’s been a lot of discussion about whether the risk adjustment tools embedded in ObamaCare amount to a bailout for the insurance companies, or are a reasonable feature of the law. There’s been far less information about how much money the insurers stand to gain from these measures, to offset their expected losses.
Now we have some hard numbers. Humana announced that it expects to tap the three risk adjustment mechanisms in ObamaCare for between $250 and $450 million in 2014. This amounts to about 25 percent of the insurer’s expected exchange revenue. This money is needed to offset losses that the insurer will take as a result of slower enrollment in its ObamaCare plans, and a skewed risk pool that weighs more heavily toward older and less healthy members than it originally budgeted.
More than half of the money will come from the $25 billion reinsurance pool that ObamaCare provides (collected through a tax on employer-sponsored health plans). The other half will come mostly from the risk corridors. Humana is expected to book the money as revenue to offset shortfalls between what it collects in exchange premiums and pays out in medical claims."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2014/02/06/obamacare-bailout-for-one-insurer-450-million-in-2014/
Its like a tax on a tax to maintain corporate profitability or sumpin ;-)
Fascism is fascist does.
"Remember the Maine!"
"Yellow Cake Uranium"
Yes, Meat, perhaps being followed secretly by an Israeli sub, which launches a nuke at Miami as the Iranians row past the coast of Florida.
"Hmmm...what's the media trying to distract us from with this?"
Justin Bieber's deportation?
How would the average citizen be able to know the truth of such a headline? It could be true, but just as likely a useful distraction by the US government. Another magician's trick, you know where there is an over the top show going on in one area to garner the attention of the audiece while the subterfuge is happening in another area overlooked by the crowd.
Naturally that is a ridiculous assumption, a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theory by a guy lving in his mothers basement eating hot pockets and watching porn.
I lol'd
next move - they declare that fleet is nookular capable
......or carries some Drones with EMP weapons.
But actually, if we check the records, I think Iranian ships have been traversing these waters since the early 2000s when Amadinejab got tight with Hugo Chavez and Fidel. I think their ships have been routinely docking at Cuba and Venezuela, so is this really "news???"
Someone can correct me, but isn't Cuba, Venezuela and Iran part of the Non-Aligned Nations' Group?
Probably scheduled to stop in Cuba, Venezuela etc. Goodwill tour !
Wow! It's going to take an awful long time to row that far!
Edit: withdrawn. I love and support Iran. The women are beautiful.
Can't wait for the WSJ editorial about how this is an outrageous insult to our manhood. Obama better react promptly and forcefully. Need additional $500B funding for MIC, stat!!!
Heard emanating from the shores of DC US: "I've fallen so far into debt, I can't get up."
The end is nearer for Israel's bully.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/02/5-minute-video-us-leaders-joke-ob...
It is time for some Iranian warships to get rammed by floating debris, just under the waterline.
If nothing serious happens on the negative side (yes, pretty generalized) it's another pretty good sign of thawing relations and shifting aliances in the Middle East.
There's a big bear behind those Persian flag ships.
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/10477
It does make some sense we see the hidden hand of Putin here.....
Bath House...The World's Biggest Pussy.
Thsi is what happens when your dictator is more concerned with fellow homosexual's "Rights" in Russia than being a constitution-obeying leader.
Interesting that you relate this to a game of chess, being that the descendants of Iran invented the game.
In ancient times Greece was invaded a couple of times by the Persian navy. Things did not go well for them. From memory their massive fleet was on one occasion wrecked by bad weather and the next time round they were routed at the battle of Salamis when their massive fleet was sucked into narrow straits by a bit of smart thinking by Themistocles.
On dry ground Alexander also gave them a few lessons in defeat as well.
I think they still remember those ancient lessons so I doubt there will be trouble.
Who knows the crew might even seek asylum in the USA.
Dude's there in the Wrong Ocean I was hoping they would take out California... I mean it wouldn't be like we were loosing any Citizens Guns or anything...
We are not in "thier waters" we cruise international waters. As long as they stay in international waters who give a flip. And yes this is middle finger to the appeaser. Once they complete thier nuke bomb and have a deliverable ship/sub device. Different game.
Different game. They won't be getting pushed around anymore by anyone.
PO-
By any chance did you attend grammar school with "The Wisp"?
More importantly, what is their navy's policy on gay sailors?
What happens in Muhammod, stays in Muhammod.
no problemo with gay sailor. they all chum.
I seriously doubt there is anyone currently serving in the Iranian military or power structure who remembers thier ancient defeats.
More interestingly the next few carriers should be the William Clinton, however that might turn out to be a sub, that would go down on anything...
The Dick Cheney, likely to cause alot of friendly fire damage. And the Hussein Obama, which will not be nuclear powered but will be the first Choom fired, carrier with lots of extra Semen inside it.
No, the next sub will be the SSN Bath House Barry. Long, black and always going down, with extra Rear Torpedo Doors.
What's all the fuss? We've been poking Irans borders for how many years now? The US hates any country that doesn't use the POS Dollar in oil/international trade and who also build pipelines without US approval! It really is that simple. Gullable American Sheeple will believe any story the government spews to justify another war. What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander. Get over it people. We act like Iran is going to invade with a destroyer and another ship full of teenage cadets. I can't believe we are even having this discussion. Just put a naked Hillary Clinton on the beach and I will guarantee you they, and every other foriegner will high-tail it home doubletime!!!
Bombard them with Justin Beiber musix.
Simple message. You can sail off our coast, we can sail off yours.
Quick, give the U.S. Navy a really big budget increase NOW!
But it does offer up the rare and precious opportunity for a false flag event. As history shows, they're not terribly concerned with making it believable.
EMP?
All you need is a crappy missile to get to the height required to close down the eastern seaboard, we would be hobbled and more evenly matched against Russian/Chinese military and economy. Do both coasts, the great lakes and the gulf and we likely couldn't shoot them down in time to stop them. I hope the asshats in charge have thought about this and done something. More likely they will wait on their asses and blame the other side of the isle...
I think that entering the Great Lakes would be quite a challenge,
even for the Mighty Iranian Navy.
Would the Ragheads go up and over the Niagara Falls, or would they force the Canandians to let them use the canal system?
Edit: now i get it, the Canadians are accomplices...
I hope they have their SeaTow membership paid up when they break down outside of Hatteras.
Are they going to send their stealth fighter too, as air cover? *snickers*
Oh, that was sarcasm Tylers? Tongue in cheek?
And the message is: Kill Me Now.
New World Order in progress...
Obama will be anointed USSA's New Immam with the Presidency disbanded.
All Americans must convert to Islam or be flogged till death.
White American males must marry mid east women.
Allah Akbar
sarc off
I think of my exwife and item #3 just makes me salivate.
Appeasement?
A small roll back in illegal sanctions designed to stop Iran from doing what it is already not doing is appeasement?
The US helped Iraq employ chemical weapons against Iran, overthrew Iran's democratically elected government to help British and American oil companies rape Iran's oil resources {giving the Iranians themselves something like 10 cents on the dollar for their oil}, along with Israel supports terror groups in Iran and asassinates civilians, all while surrounding it with military bases, parking the equivalent of Russia's navy off its coast, and constantly threatening it.... and a slight reduction in the sanctions is "appeasement"
The author is either ignorant or a shill for the neocons...
Which is it?
Here's Netanyhau lying about Iraqi nukes.
Here's a brief overview of the 20+ history of Netanyahu's claim that Iran was "months away" from a nuclear weapon.
- similar reporting from the Washington Times.
Here's a short article noting significant evidence that Netanyahu was involved in a nuclear smuggling ring - stealing from the US. Do the Israelis have a hidden nuke in the US somewhere - to blame on Iran?
Here's Netanyahu being told to help bring about the Jewish Messiah (Israel and Jews will dominate the world in this post Temple, Talmudic, and very unspiritual rendering of what a "Savior" is - the harbinger of a Jewish Reich. The whole video is worth a watch.
Here's evidence that Israel, or its neocon 5th column fabricated evidence precisely when it became clear Iran had stopped any computer design work on a nuclear weapon: http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2007/12/10/iran-nukes-and-the-laptop-...
Our civilian and military intelligence agencies have reached consensus positions that Iran is not working on a nuke - although one could hardly blame them for wanting the deterrent.
After all, Israel and it's 5th column in the US really, really want that war. And why not lie, lie again?
It worked in Iraq, after all. And, those were lies, ladies and gentlemen, not mistaken interpretation of intelligence.
What's a million Aye-rab dead for the sake of Greater Israel?
What's 3,000 Americans?
I wish more people knew about our history with Iran. After the revolution they actually disbanded their military having understood Thomas Jefferson that a standing army is a threat to a republic.
Then we assisted Saddam Hussein in his war with Iran. They were caught completely off guard. The Iranians have been heavily militarized since that time.
Lol ships without aircover are sitting ducks as proven in WW2.
This is just political theater but lots of fun. The Iranisns are very entertaining and they have a few good points.
Is the Superpower Afraid of Iran?
What Americans Believe: Iran War Propaganda
Iran’s Ever Imminent Nukes: A History of Hysteria
Same playbook as Iraq, by the same fuckin' crew. And ZH is promoting it? The US can park dozens of ships very near China or Iran but as soon as those countries send a completely token force (Jack Burton, back me up...), it's a harbinger of WW3 by an evil regime? LOL.
I feel like this Tyler ain't the old Tyler. This Tyler seems, well, hijacked.
Say it ain't so, Joe!
Nice of their admirals to move their ships within range of our shore-based assets.
" within range of our shore-based assets "
What the fuck? Are they off Samos? somewhere in the Med?
And haven't you another country to defend ?
On a mission from God...to help the Germans get back their gold sooner. It's only fair!
LMFAO!!!!!
Go get 'em Iran!!!! Run those shitbag toy boats of yours into the US coast. Post it on youtube when you get this done!!!
Soon they will only be viewable through the bottom of a glass bottomed boat.
But the chart doesn't show where the subs are, does it?
Iran is a F*cking joke. But it seems like a China play.
Lame story waste of time.
These kiddies got way too destructive toys. We shouldn't let them play with those any longer…
Here is another interesting message.:
http://larouchepac.com/node/29754
What is so darn special about March?
I hope they remember to rturn right at Thor's Twins.