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Russia Responds To US Warning: Expands Military Presence Globally
Shortly after the US warned Russia over its "provocative actions" with regard Ukraine...
- *KERRY: RUSSIA MILITARY MOVE ON UKRAINE WOULD BE GRAVE MISTAKE
RiaNovosti reports defense minister Sergei Shoigu saying Russia plans "to expand permanent military presence outside its borders by placing military bases in a number of foreign countries," including Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, the Seychelles, and Singapore. "The talks are under way, and we are close to signing the relevant documents," Shoigu told reporters in Moscow.
Russia is planning to expand its permanent military presence outside its borders by placing military bases in a number of foreign countries, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Wednesday.
Shoigu said the list includes Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, the Seychelles, Singapore and several other countries.
“The talks are under way, and we are close to signing the relevant documents,” Shoigu told reporters in Moscow.
The minister added that the negotiations cover not only military bases but also visits to ports in such countries on favorable conditions as well as the opening of refueling sites for Russian strategic bombers on patrol.
Moscow currently has only one naval base outside the former Soviet Union – in Tartus, Syria, but the fate of this naval facility is uncertain because of the ongoing civil war in that country.
Post-Soviet Russia closed a large naval base in Vietnam and a radar base in Cuba in 2002 due to financial constraints.
However, Russia has started reviving its navy and strategic aviation since mid-2000s, seeing them as a tool to project the Russian image abroad and to protect its national interests around the globe.
Now, Moscow needs to place such military assets in strategically important regions of the world to make them work effectively toward the goal of expanding Russia’s global influence.
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A key country will be Egypt. After the president-to-be And head of the egyptian army visited Russia and seems to be moving from being an ally of the US to an ally of Russia.
This chess board is getting very interesting. If China joins the Russians as well, you could kiss the US dominance goodbye. The Ukraine might be the trigger of WWIII
I wonder if one day the Chinese will turn the table on the Russians... ten times the population and low on resources can be a good excuse as any other.
That day will come later. May not come at all-at least not for 50 or a hundred years. The world will probably blow itself up well before that in a nuclear war, or massive readitaion from Fukishima type meltdowns. A solar EMP flareup could knock out a hundred nulear power plants which do not have sufficient backup energy systems to withstand a power grid failure of over 90 days. yes we're fucked -I'm 54. Probably in my lifetime.
You are projecting yourself on the Chinese.
Don't worry, why conquer Siberia as China when the Chinks can just give some Russian guy a handful of paper money in return for real goods like wood and oil?
On the other hand, if all of this is going on, what are we being distracted from?
Vlad is full of turd, very similar to Obama. Again it has to reiterated that Russia is been laughed at by the Ukrainians, APCs and 200 men lol. Also, for the apologists, Ukraine is the food basket of Russia. A full blown Russian invasion will send food (wheat) prices to the moon.
The only threat to Ukraine are operations from Russia to disrupt the country's political problems, as they struggle to stabilize government.
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No, actually it's not.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-geopolitics-of-ukrainian-c...
Yes it is, providing over 20% to Russia, the rest divided up between the other European countries. Now, check the grain futures and chart them against Ukraine's various market plays (geopolitical, trade etc), see the trend? Good. Use your brain, do your research. Ok?
Thanks
Which grain futures contract?
Chump..? Your research is little correct.
Whether Russia wants food from Ukraine is more important to Ukraine than to Russia.
Russia will not allow anyway if Monsanto gets in there and poisons it.
Also, Chinese took large 50 year lease. Expect that send to China.
I know what I talk of.. deep experience, connections to the Volga grain trade and offered 50 year lease myself.
Yes....and also...
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/02/ukrainian-nationalism-its-roots-and.html
Correct...and see my answer to Chump elsewhere..
Russia can pass on Ukraine products..
Monsanto gets a hold and poisons crops of Ukr, Russia will not touch it.
What's the Fed to do?
2014 will be a year for the history books! Some serious shit is about to hit the fan. Grab the popcorn...the show is about to start!
Butter iodine flavor.,
Obama/Kerry are fucking Morons! Putin is playing them like a fiddle. Which is easy when the US no longer holds any Moral High-ground...
Putin:Chess
Obama:Checkers
Reggie lets him win, otherwise he has to hear the bitch whining for days.
We asked for it, now we're gonna get it. I think these idiots awoke a sleeping bear. Not smart. We need to get RID OF THIS CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT!! Kerry is an insane psychopath and a traitor, HANG HIM!!!!
Wait till China piles on with Russia, we're soooo fucked.
I'm waiting for a black flag event now.. Like a Right Sector foot solider detonating one of those neat 'missing' suitcase Nukes inside of Ramstein Air Base in Germany.. OH NOES! says Obama.. TEHM RUSKIS NO GOOOD! attack!
Something like the missile "test" that the Israelis did when every country had every gun they owned pointing at each other in The Mediterenean in Sept. Oooops, sorry, did I do that??? it was just a test. Like throwing a firecracker on the ground when 20 people have all pulled guns on each other.
The play for sure is to incite violence.. and probably all out war with anyone big enough to challenge the US military.. on face value you think that all the US diplomats that instigated the coup in the Ukraine are complete idiots with no friggin idea.. but you know.. their game plan is not Ukrainian 'Freedom' but ultimately the annilation of every soul on earth!
What's the sound of one hand clapping again?
Yeah, while they sit in their underground bunkers banging models and eating caviar.
Here is some knowledge that most don't have a clue about...
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/02/ukrainian-nationalism-its-roots-and.html
Let's see, they hold ALL of our debt and can crash out our country to where we have every city burning, AND the two combined have a HUGE military. Let's see what do we have? We have lots of paper money and psychopathic banksters telling our retarded psychopathic politicians what to do and we have a military running around the world killing women and children and stealing their shit. Ummmmmm, WE'RE the terrorists. I think the USA bully is about to get a good ass kicking. And well deseved. Those HUGE aircraft carriers are sitting ducks and will be vaporized in a heartbeat. Hopefully if it goes down they'll just take out DC, that would be cheered by ALL Americans. Put one right in there, it only takes one to take out the DeathStar.
I say if these traitors want a war we suit them up and give them guns and send them over to Russia to kick ass. The rest of us will "Thank them for our Freedom". ASSHOLES!! HANG KERRY. HANG THE WHOLE FUCKING GOVERNMENT FOR TREASON!!!
Russian spy ship has just docked in Havana. Guess Putin is calling Kerry's bluff.
Too bad they didn't dock in Hyannisport and send some Russian boxer in to beat Kerry's fucked up face in and throw his ass in a wood chipper. I'm good with that.
Two russian "large landing craft" have entered into the black sea!
http://seabreeze.org.ua/bolshie-desantnyie-korabli-baltiyskogo-flota-rf-proshli-proliv-bosfor-i-zashli-v-chernoe-more-foto/
One of those looks like a pretty big missile cruiser. This was one of the ones between the US Navy and Syria.
I can't believe how many fucking retards there are on this site. They rail against our governments foreign expansion and then cheer on Putin now that he is engaging in foreign exanpansion. As bad as our government is Russia is even worse. People who think it is so great over there, vote with you feet and fucking move there.
You're a fucking government troll working with the NSA you motherfucker. Soon we'll be hanging assholes like you. WE started this shit with Russia you psychopathic assclown.
PNAC- yiddish for shit-stirrers
blind patriotism is a disease. Wake the fuck up
I'm no Russia fanboy but...
You have to admit there's a teensy but of difference between an American invasion of Iraq, for example, and a Russian invasion of Ukraine. If the difference escapes you, consult a globe.
or consider a brain transplant.
Putin did not:
1. Take away my healthcare.
2. Try to take away my 2nd and 4th Amendment rights plus the 1st.
3. Does not demena and bellitle my people in the newsmedia daily.
4. Does not spy on everything me and my countrymen do.
5. Bankrupt my country.
6. Attack smaller countries and murder innocent people.
7. Engage in false flags.
8. Abandon our people in Benghazi.
9. Send our kids to shit wars to help contractors get rich and get our kids blown up.
I could go on and on and on. Putin probably knows that more and more Americans hate this corrupt govt each day.
I'm sure this will end well.
Maybe Putin can finally get Guantanomo closed. Soetero lied/promised to close that place in order to get elected in 2008.
Good timing
Some were starting to talk about cuts in the military
As if!
We ne more video cams and monitoring. Evil is everywhere
OK guys i understand why you like to beat up on pussy barry. however who has troops experianced at war?
Russia? I think not. China? not for 30 years. Show me anybody else that is experioanced at real war now. Not games but Real war.
Think about it..... Who do you trust more at work? the guy who don't know shit or the guy with 15 years experiance.
I agree Barry suks bujt we can still kick anybodies ass with one arm tied behind our backs, which has been tradition since ww2.
Just saying....
How many red arrows will I get. Wanna bet?
One more thing- our politicians suck and we all know that. But our troops are the best in the world, anybody that disputes that does not know any personnaly!!!!!!
They can kick ass inspite of our fuked up pols.....
Only special forces. Our heavy forces, airforce, and navy, have not operated against any heavies for a long fucking time. We have had air and navy superiority for so long we don't know what it is like to face some real force in their own back yard. To wit, Russia, China, Iran, in say Syria or Ukraine. Game on muther fucker...
As a former Marine Corps officer I simply laugh at what most people have no clue about; capabilities. In Iraq, we didn't even dust off our latest gear, and in Afghansitan Boeing calls that war, beta testing.
If we felt truly strategically challenged we would bring the communication world into darkness from space and then take it from there.
There are two drone stealth space shuttles ripping around up there doing who knows what to everyone's satellites. On earth we are the only military with laser and kinetic mobile and deployed, which by the way destroys the Sunburn. Etc, etc. etc.
By the way, I do not advocate any of our foreign policy and rather us shrink back to fortress America and let the rest of world whack it out on your own. Don't forget to learn Russian, German, or Mandarin though.
The problem is, there is nothing to fight about except that go looking for prey and loot.
"War is a Racket" Major General Smedley D. Butler
Also, might look what Kissinger said about military men...
I get it! we are so advanced that we have become unbeatable. So were the GERMANS.
What if they released a superbug with a 15 day incubation period? How will data supremacy stop that?
How much of the US water supply has a Binary chem weapon in it just waiting to be activated by spies?
What happens if we do win and they still wont yield? What if they detonated their entire arsenal in the silos? How is some fancy space plane BS gonna stop that.
If things get crazy Russia will hit us FUCKING HARD and the world will cheer them on - with their last dying breath.
All working for the NWO and not standing up for The Constitution when he had Seal Team 6 taken out and abandoned people in Benghazi.
The Pentagon is wonderful (sic). You lost your country and you don't even get it. Fool.
Spec Ops works for the alphabet agencies and the NWO.
You guys suck... Our troops work hard and you sit back and reap the profits. I am ussually on your side but our troops kick ass........
If you cannot even admit that then you just suk.............
Putin did not put Seal Team 6 on a Chinook and vector them right into RPGs to insure they would all be murdered on a slow moving Chinook.
Putin did not leave Stevens (State CIA) and the three SEAL (CIA) paramilitaries behind to die in Benghazi.
The Pentagon only cares about budgets and their pensions.
All US-MIL only cares about their PENSION.
All US COPS only care about their pension.
Take away the fucking PENSION, and the assholes come back to the little people who used to pay taxes before AIPAC took over america, and convinced the FED they could print FIAT to infinite and run around Congress.
Budget? There are no fucking budgets, its FIAT to INFINITY for everyone killing for uncle sam.
So you guys that down arrowed me think our politicians are great and our troops suck?
What pricks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
America has not won a war since 1945?
Definition of win please?
Who has invaded our country?
Besides pussies and fags.
Can you imagine what would happen if russia invaded baja?
Whoi knows with Barry in charge?
Shoting for a record red arrow day......
your country dickwad..
do yourself a favor you ignorant tool and go visit the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.. If you come out of there not wanting to top yourself after all the SICK things YOUR country did to the innocent people of Vietnam then you surely are not even human.. Like to see that sick shit done to you, you bigoted homophobic war mongering cum gurgling whore!
WHA
Let me guess, your shit doesn't stink...
East Prigorodny Conflict
Civil War in Tajikistan
Georgian Civil War
First Chechen War
War of Dagestan
Second Chechen War
Debellation of Ichkeria.
Nine year insurgency.
Russo-Georgian War
North Caucasus Insurgency
All animals are created equal but some are more equal than others
Once again I understand everybodies resentment of the puss in chief, however our guys and I mean all of them are the best in the world and have the best equipment,( we do spend more on defence than the rest of the world combined).
Give the guys and gals credit. They are good and can kick anybodies ass and for that we are fortunate.
Like I said before if you disagree, then I know you do not even know any of them. They have a dirty rotten job , perform well and get paid shit.
Yawn. Your trolling is substandard.
They can't even conquer goat fuckers.
They haven't won a war in over half a century.
And I know more of them than you do (and on both sides).
If only (the rules of engagement were different)
If only (the public was behind us)
If only (the CO had a viable plan)
Excuses.
Just like the MIC's
If only (You had bought more of our shit)
Excuses are for children.
One good soldier does not an army make.
He and his gang killed Seal Team 6. What did the Pentagon and the military do about that? Nothing. They took it. They knew that they had been murdered. So much for The Constitution.
Putin and Russia are not the problem.
People are the same everywhere... Soldiers are the same everywhere. To say otherwise is insulting and dehumanizing- to both the dwindling few who fight with us, as well as to those who fight against us, while subtly sewing the seeds of our own defeats.
The reason the US has an outsized ability to kill and impose its will with relative impunity (even among our own) is a function of the the outsized influence of, and investment in, the military industrial complex, nothing more. That is the awful and perverse truth, that we hide from.
Tactics are a function of available tools and resources.
The first case is a fault- both morally and strategically. Moreover, when we say are going to fight (and win) and then (repeatedly) fail to do so, our friends become collaborators in the eyes of our victors, and are generally not accorded the same human respect that US actually does accord others (with a relative few and overly well noted exceptions). So who have we successfully killed more of- our friends or foes?
The US military "may" have become more professional with the abolition of draft (on a short enough timeline...), but at the expense of the mindless indentured servitude that comes with decreased civic participation.
However, Americans, generally, (both inside an outside the military) continue to goalseek by employing lower standards to achieve paper and phyrric victories or success within the retreating borders of our minds.
When some illiterate tattooed bitch who can't even do a couple pull-ups is an acceptable front line force with which to instill fear in our enemies and earn the respect of our allies? We are scraping the bottom of the barrel, and need to rexamine whether we have not lost all the ground gained and then some. Moreover, we are paying top dollar for the privilege of scraping the bottom of the barrel, both by international standards and what the US pays non-banking civilians.
Now excuse me while I strap on my threadbare newspaper boots and 100lb pack and cover 25 miles a day while always marching uphill.
You MUST be FUCKING STUPID!!! Winning? WINNING?? Winning WHAT?? There will be nothing left you idiot. We will use nukes first and then everyone pushes buttons. You won't be watching CBS propaganda presstitute news that night you friggin reeeeeetard This isn't a fucking football game. And if one side does "win" and the whole world isn't on fire WHAT are you getting out of it? Extra doses of radiation and nothing to eat with cops beating your head in if you ask for food. Who "wins" you IDIOT?? What did you get when we "won" the Iraq war? A bill. You're a DUMB FUCK. The guys you are "cheering" for don't give a flying ASSFUCK about you or anyone else. As a matter of fact after they get done with the Ruskies they'll come back and beat your brains in just for fun. MOOOOOOOOOOOOORON!!
Good ol American ultraviolent movies have lobotomized the US. People think this is a game. Its not. Russia is not some backward shit hole full of untrained undiciplined idiots. Russia can kill us. Russia can kill our families. Russian troops are now stacking on the border of Ukraine. Heavy landing ships are moving in. O butgasm has fired good servicemen and replaced them with sycophants who will follow any order no matter how stupid. The last time the generals just wouldnt fucking do it. Im not so sure now. Anyone who is not terrified is crazy. Picture your kids asking "why are we sick daddy?" as they throw up BLOOD. Russia has wicked organ eating BIOWEAPONS just like us. This is for real.
What about the Chinese? Remember that heavy assault ship they sent to Syria? If they were willing to get involved in Syria they wont hesitate to mix it up over the only other county preventing world wide US domination.
This is most ignorant post
The Afghans consider you the devils pussies, tell hide behind walls afraid to fight and bomb women and children indiscriminately.
Tradition.
Don't poke the Bear Herman.
Has Putin ever heard of the Monroe Doctrine
Not in my backyard?
Think Obama will wuss out on this like every other Foreign Policy mistake made in the last 5 1/2 years
The Bear is on the 'prowl'
Think Barry is strong /smart enough to go Mano y Mano with
Vlad the Impaler?
Maybe it's time to bring back Hilary oh wait we do have Susan, I lied 5 times of the Sunday talk shows Rice
We're ok!
VO
why bother- let the US implode and pick up the pieces
Putin: "Check."
DC US: "Go fish."
"The Petro-dollar is like a fat man walking across a pond of thin-ice.”
all I got to say is this is so funny, what morons in the US gov. Seems Russia is more popular now.
Anyone remember the letter Putin wrote to the American people a couple of months ago?
Contrast that to the daily attacks we get from the home team on how we are racists, homophobes, red necks, intolerent; while we are spied on, harassed, sucker punched, arrested for defending ourselves, sued, over taxed, watch our Treasury being looted, invaded and the list goes on.
People tend to respect a strong leader. Obama is a cunt, nobody respects him excepts the weakling parasites that suck on .gov titty
Most commenters here and elsewhere seem to be caught up in the'things that go boom' mode of thinking.I'm not especially worried about nukes - though maybe I should be. I am much more worried about lethal bugs which don't take even a little bit of high technology to deliver. The fact that Russian military hardware isn't as effective as it supposedly once was has no bearing on their capability to deliver a cloud of little bugs over the western US where the prevailing winds will do the rest.
Vietnam and Singapore. Interesting. Could Russian military presence there be more about China than the U.S.?
You bet. Typical Russian chess moves. Russia fears China, not the U.S. as they sit in their backyard. This whole U.S./ Russia brush up is theatre.
Chess moves?
Anything that would weaken China would serve better 'americans' than russians. Does it mean that 'americans' are getting the russians to do their dirty work?
Maybe time for the russians to warm up to the idea of playing blitz because 'americans' are on their borders, completing the military surrounding move they started decades ago.
Next stop: Moscow.
And Russians, on the other hands, are so far from Washington DC, the capital of the 'american' world.
Let's rattle our MX missile saber. That will scare them.
Oh wait... what MX missiles?
Sounds like Moscow just counted the army divisions on their map of Eastern Europe and told Washington to go fuck itself.
Putin's like, "so you're getting aggressive?" then "we're getting aggressive-er"
Ah, but who will get aggressiverest?
Talk is cheap. Barry and Kerry always mouth off.
cold war redux?
I wonder if this ties into Obama's "flexibility."
More desperation from the russians.
Talks instead of walks.
The russians are planning to. Good. In the meantime, 'americans' play long term games.
They are slowly but surely building up Ukraine in the kind of trojan horse they like to infiltrate in other groups in order to keep that group under control (see the infiltration of the german trojan horse in the EU for example)
'Americans' are making the russian military presence in Ukraine a sensitive issue. This will provide material for a future Ukrainian government to play both sides a la double agent. Russian bases are going to stay in Ukraine but it is going to come with a higher price. Ukraine will get the better of the two worlds. Exactly the way 'americans' want it to be.
Want to turn out the gas pipes? Suddenly, talks about the legitimacy of the russian bases will surface. Why not an application to NATO? Still want to turn off the pipes?
Do not want to extend that loan? What about the bases? Since Ukraine is going to be assimilated by the 'american' world banks system, this ukraine trojan horse is going to be a direct leak from Russia to the 'american' world.
Russia better be prepared to sell more and more of their Siberian natural resources to the customers 'americans' will choose for them, they will never collect enough to fill the ukrainian black hole.
'Americans' are on the Russia borders and what do the Russians do? They talk.
Keep going, history has shown that 'americans' are very receptive to talks. If you have a legitimate plea according to their own laws, not only 'americans' listen but they take it into account.
Historically proven. Ask the indians.
The russians are on the right path.
Yes - just how uncle Barry and auntie Kerry humiliated Putin in Syria.
Now that thats long term US planning for you.
fucking ukrainian maidan nazis just asked for it
fuck em nazis and i hope russians will kick that nazi ass real hard
7 buses from Krym stopped and lynched by the maidan nazis
warning: it's butt fuck ugly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4yvT4QgJyg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
lynched?
krym?
where exactly were buses stopped?
the video description says (google translate):
In Cherkassy region detained seven buses with Gopnik from Crimea
A minority of Ukrainians (mostly supported and financed by NWO elites and Soros NGO-bots) have taken over the government of Ukraine. My contacts there (in the East and West) tell me that most Ukrainians would rather have closer ties to Russia than to the EUSSR.
Whatever, I love seeing Putin telling Barry to shove it up his ass. Unfortunately, Barry LOVES taking things up his ass.
according to my estimations and sources one quarter of Ukraine's population is pro-EU, one quarter is pro-Russia, one quarter is pro-indipendence and one quarter would prefer to have close ties to both "sides"
and so any of the currently proposed solutions would leave one quarter happy and three quarters in various degrees of unhappiness
meanwhile all this talk of "NWO elites" is distracting from two distinct realities: the equation of military force and the equation of economies
Russia has clear national interests in Ukraine. Many EU countries have clear economic interests in Ukraine (and in Russia)
the "wild card" in all this is... US interests
and don't get me into commenting this lame "EUSSR" moniker. I know Ukraine a bit from the times it was still part of the USSR
I think I agree with that. US involvment in Europe post '45 has been pretty negative on balance.
- Nearly triggered a Nuclear war in Europe in the 1980s with clodding retoric.
- Gets in the way of better relations with Russia - good for EU security and and have a "nothing to be afraid of" effect on the Russia so they losen up a little.
The idea that we keep tanks and missiles out of Europe with the US directing things is something of an oxymoron.
Putin might not be a friend of the West and is no saint - but he is no Stalin, not even in dictator terms a Mussolini, Franco or latin or African dictator.
Ukraine will probably in the end become part of the EU but the Russians will have to get a big say - Keep the Naval base, hands off the pipelines (EU needs these supplies any how).
A weak Russia is AGAINST western interests - infact the goal should be make Russia to be part of the West - the Eastern part as China and India emerge. This will have to wait post Putin though.
There is NO WAY the USSR is making a comeback - Even the Russians know this. Their military potential is mostly obsolete with only a handful of up to date military equipement of any real potency.
This game, from an Europe perspective needs a poker face and patience. We want to keep friends and find new ones. US influence here will not help. In fact a good relationship between Russia and EU will diminish US influence - something the US will be aware of.
Has there EVER really been a "good" war?
Canada managed to separate from England without one.
England (and just about every other country) managed to abolish slavery wthout one.
Helping France to win WWI just allowed the creation of the odious Versailles Treaty, which birthed Hitler and sowed the seeds of WWII.
What good did the war in Korea do? Vietnam? Iraq?
Pull the troops OUT of Korea, Japan, and Europe, and put them on the Southern border. We are actually being INVADED there.
funny. I thought - it looks like my memory is failing me - that you were an ex-pat yourself. anyway, does your call for sealing the US borders include a recall of the 6 million US ex-pats? just asking
did canada really separate ?
cause afaik most lands in canada are still owned by British Queen
Looks like they arrived in CUBA already:
http://investmentwatchblog.com/look-russian-spy-ship-docked-in-havana-cuba
Urban Redneck Good morning, early riser?
Keep on bitching. There are some who are awake, most are asleep, and it's likely nothing can be done about our declining influence in the world (since the electeds whom we employ at great expense really work for TPTB) but as long as we've above ground we can record the history of the sinking...
Thanks. Sleeping has never been a passion of mine... With clients, colleagues and compatriots spread across five continents who prefer normal hours- I keep some really strange hours. In recent years I have staked out a patch of defensible high ground in the Alps, so it's actually my lunch break in today's time-zone.
we are facing permanent cuban crisis
I'm not sure Russia understand that John F Kerry got a Purple Star in Vietnam
The Queen wants to reduce the number of US Navy seaman to pre-WW I levels? Putin is a better chess player.
You know the Queens's next move is going to be sending NATO troops into Western Ukraine to support the coup.
How will Putin counter that move?