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Meanwhile, More Russian Military Vehicles Amass In The Crimean

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While the IMF is promising a massive bailout to the Ukraine, and NATO is using the harshest language it can possibly muster to halt Russia in its tracks, Putin is doing what he does best: employing brute force (as seen below), and using even harsher language, to wit: RUSSIA: WEST MUST STOP MAKING PROVOCATIVE STATEMENTS ON UKRAINE.

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Source: Euronews

 

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Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:47 | 4485651 CourageousDogSn...
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What do you mean intervene in Crimea. The Russians are already there. They have military bases in Sevastapol and Yalta. Crimea is historically Russian territory.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:32 | 4484526 JSD
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Crimea river.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:34 | 4484538 rodonmeguro
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"911" "yes, I'd like to report a domestic disturbance."

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:35 | 4484547 headhunt
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911 operator; 'Are there any nukes involved?'

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:47 | 4484599 _ConanTheLibert...
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Did you say nudes?

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:34 | 4484540 overmedicatedun...
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a new war, markets up, victory on wall street.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:38 | 4484556 the not so migh...
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just open a window and markets will go up

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:47 | 4484595 RabbitChow
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And don't forget, PMs are tanking rapidly.  That is, until war materiel has to be replaced.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:43 | 4484921 ThisIsBob
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 "Buy the cannons, sell the trumpets."

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:38 | 4484560 spellbound
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Things of this nature are usually planned WEEELL (years) in advance. Amazing how the evil empire becomes the favorite and vice versa. TPTB are really toying with us muppets.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:38 | 4484562 superflex
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Looks like the cloud cover is a perfect opportunity to mobilize some more equipment away from the prying eyes of US sattelites.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:06 | 4484729 Winston of Oceania
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US satellites can see through clouds and in the dark as can Russian ones.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:42 | 4484575 known unknown
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Russia does not care what NATO says. They fought Napolean then Hitler and see this as another invader on their soil. They are ready and have been for quite some time. I would advise the west to back down as Russia will not and Putin even though he has a poker face stare does not strike me as a bluffer. He did not back down from Syria and will definitely not back down now.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:05 | 4484720 Winston of Oceania
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Perhaps those things are part of the trap, the Banksters NEED a war. Just thinking of any tricks on the part of the Banksters...

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:50 | 4485671 CourageousDogSn...
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You're probably right.

The bankers need a war to sop up all of the QE Inflation.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:01 | 4485417 silvermail
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"Russia does not care what NATO says. They fought Napolean then Hitler and see this as another invader on their soil. They are ready and have been for quite some time. I would advise the west to back down as Russia will not and Putin even though he has a poker face stare does not strike me as a bluffer. He did not back down from Syria and will definitely not back down now."

I recently heard an interesting saying:
"You can play poker with the Russian and gradually win them. But never play with Russian, in Russian roulette.  Because in this game, Russian has no concept of unacceptable damage".

I think that right now, Russian send us the offer to play namely in this game.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:42 | 4484577 Saratoga
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Where's Michael Buffer when you need him...Let's get ready to Rumbleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:45 | 4484589 Dorelei
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If KGB man move a finger on those poor Ukrainians , i call bobby while he is eating some KFC watching Shrek  !  Let's fucking EMP his cohort of morons, make them work in a neo gulag on  mars  to build  a one kilomter high monuments  of Obama receiveing his nobel peaceprize with the dalailama on top of the olympus monts !!

 

I hope i'm not dead tonight, a romanian umbrella in my ass  or crystallized and floating on the dead sea !!

I might also be dead thousands of years ago and my malediction is list  lingering on !!

 

Hajimashita  morons  !

Perestroika power !

PEACE & LOVE

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:48 | 4484601 Seasmoke
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I wonder what Snowden is thinking today ???

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:52 | 4484634 Mad Max
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Probably enjoying each and every day of relative freedom in the Evil Empire.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:51 | 4484622 jackes123
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fully support Russia.

nuff said.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:24 | 4484808 Pure Evil
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Boo!

You should be supporting the Homo in the White House and his dog Wookie.

Don't you have any gay pride?

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 11:51 | 4484625 beaglebog
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We see plenty of evidence that Russian troops are mobilising.

 

Where is the evidence that Western forces are mobilising? 

 

Are they, the West, on the move?

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:05 | 4484721 beaglebog
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Why the down-arrow?

 

Was that a controversial question, or something ?

 

Puzzled.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:02 | 4484698 MarsInScorpio
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2014 Ukraine = 1956 Hungary

 

Long Empty Promises

-30-

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:04 | 4484713 Volkodav
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Soviet is defunct.
Get over it.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:35 | 4484874 MrSteve
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Russkie Brethern, heal thyself! Joe SixPack is over the USSR, it is Czar Putin who is jonesing for Joe Stalin and to be back in  the USSR; even the Beatles saw this coming!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 15:12 | 4485073 MarsInScorpio
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Mr:

 

Obviously, you guys don't get it - so let me expand.

 

Just as the West gave the Hungarians the idea the West had their backs, so too for the last several years has the West done the same to the neo-Nazi Ukrainians and their competing oligarch partners.

 

Yesterday - the US announced a STUNNING /sarc $1-billion in aide - big deal. What a joke.

 

Anyway, Russia is going to go in under the provision that allows for military intervention to "preserve" the unity of the country by asserting that the new rulers were taking steps that would result in the splitting up of the country.

 

Bottom Line: West provokes revolution, then stands by when the Russians crush it.

 

2014 Ukraine = 1956 Hungary

-30-

 

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 15:20 | 4485829 Dollarmedes
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"...neo-Nazi Ukrainians..."

Hmmm. The only instance I remember of Ukrainians seeming nazi-like was the use of the swastika in Russian propaganda. Surely you must have examples of protestors giving the "seig-heil" salute during the Independence Square rallies to back this up?

"...the US announced a STUNNING /sarc $1-billion in aide..."

This is called a 'trial balloon;' it is meant to test the waters to see if there will be any violent backlash against the idea of a bailout. There's no reason at all that this has to be the final amount. In fact, I predict that it won't be. 

"Anyway, Russia is going to go in..."

I doubt it, unless Russia wants to spark a wave of pipeline sabotages and western sanctions.

 

But I guess time will tell.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:04 | 4484715 John McCloy
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Bush ain't in office no more. He knows all we have now is a petulant child for president and the gang who couldn't shoot straight behind the scenes and all they have is rhetoric when it comes to nations that can defend themselves when we try to steal their lunch money.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 13:12 | 4485104 headhunt
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...and we all know, this is Bush's fault...

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 18:03 | 4486450 jmp esp
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You think Bush would have done a god damn thing? Doubtful.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:05 | 4484719 TicoTiger
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Wow, it is so sad that the $5-billion that the United States generously and with no hidden agenda contributed to Ukraine over the last few years hasn't helped bring real freedom to the population. Watch the video in which Ms. (F**K the EU) Nuland expresses the bright and wonderful future which awaits, especially once those unwashed masses (with the help of the anonymously funded neo-Nazis) kick out that nasty Putin and accept the EU and the IMF as their new, enlightened masters. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=861DJLR4Cek

Warning: Keep a vomit bag handy.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:13 | 4484753 De minimus
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What was it? 80 murdered by government snipers? All because they wanted freedom and accountability from "their" government? A constitution that that "their" government wouldn't ignore whenever they choose?

In the name of peace, brotherhood, security, prosperity, any other contrived reasons they could present in order to claim legitimacy and as we found out, gold toilet fixtures for the ruling class.

 

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:26 | 4484820 superflex
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You probably beleive the Sochi toilet photos too.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:14 | 4484755 De minimus
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What was it? 80 murdered by government snipers? All because they wanted freedom and accountability from "their" government? A constitution that that "their" government wouldn't ignore whenever they choose?

In the name of peace, brotherhood, security, prosperity, any other contrived reasons they could present in order to claim legitimacy and as we found out, gold toilet fixtures for the ruling class.

 

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:33 | 4484861 Volkodav
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You just proved your stupidity twice.

 

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:57 | 4485718 CourageousDogSn...
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I didn't know Victoria Nuland trolls this site.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:15 | 4484772 Johnny Cocknballs
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Whatever NATO's plans, they better involve protecting their new puppet government in Kiev. 

Those useful idiots fascist dirtbags whose occupation of government buildings was good [unlike the ones in Crimea, which, I've been told, are bad] are still around, and pretty soon, they're going to understand that they have been fucked by a puppet leadership that has been bought and paid for by the EU/NATO, and they are going to be very, very upset.

The Ukraine: Neo-Nazi criminal state looming in the centre of Europe


Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:48 | 4484886 Volkodav
Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:16 | 4484773 rsnoble
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Fuck it, lunchtime.  Heading to the greasy burger shack.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:22 | 4484800 RetiredSilverBug
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Russia needs to stop the gangster coup in Ukraine and return country back to democracy. Democracy and freedom assumes human rights guaranteed and protected by state and law. Right now there is no state, no law and no guarantees of any rights to anybody in Ukraine.  Democracy rules!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:30 | 4484841 Pure Evil
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Obama needs to stop the gangster coup in D.C. and return the country back to democracy. Democracy and freedom assumes human rights guaranteed and protected by state and law. Right now there is no state, no law and no guarantees of any rights to anybody in USA.  Democracy rules!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:09 | 4485464 Dorelei
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Right now you have no brain,  no eyes and no balls !!!

Grow a motherfucking pair !!!

Intelligence rules !!

Easy rider style !!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:38 | 4484894 TicoTiger
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I believe that master chessmaster Putin is very pleased that the Oligarth gangster Yanokuvich has been deposed (legally or not). I do not personally believe he has any plans or need to enter the country with his military, but the mobilization is a warning to all outside powers. The espionage of US and the EU (as usual) will be found under the bed once the dust settles. If Ukraine does split up as many educated people believe, the eastern portions (the industrial and wealthier parts - who speak Russian) will join Russia of their own free will. The western portions (including Kiev) speak other languages and consist of mostly poor farmland, and they may try and join EU. That will be a bad decision, since the EU is nearly as bankrupt as Ukraine.

Here is the latest regarding the Crimea as reported in RT:

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-crimea-referendum-future-014/

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:29 | 4484839 MrSteve
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This Russkie armored vehicle action announced right after SecDef Hagel declares the A-10 Warthog 'retired". Truly driving while watching in the rearview mirror!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 13:03 | 4485045 Johnny Cocknballs
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huh?  it was mothballed quite some time ago, what are you smoking?

And it was a remarkably stupid decision to disco that beast.  The problem was it was too reliable, too inexpensive, and too effective.  And too fun to fly - and all without making its pilots black out!

The MIC is not interested in shit like that when they can shove the F35 down the country's throat.

I hear the next gen will work in the rain...

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:41 | 4484915 nowhereman
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So, help me out with this.  Since Russia got out of Afghanistan, and since Ronnie got the Wall taken down, how much money has Russia spent exercising its global might?  We all know that since that time the US has been fighting wars virtually non-stop, spending trillions of dollars on a total waste of time.  Meanwhile Russia has been trying to clean house, getting its economy in order, spending it's time and money on projects where it will hopefully do the most good.  

Now the way I look at it; Who is in a better position in this "conflict"?  Russia of course.  Who can financially handle the costs?  Russia of course.  Who has the logistical advantage?  Need I ask?

All of this points to the ineptitude of the Western thinker's thought processes. That is, unless there is something else going on here that we have yet to ascertain.  You can bet your bottom dollar that the story the media is flogging is far from the truth.  So it's obvious something's up, and I ask, what do you think it is?  It sure as hell isn't about the Ukrainian peoples freedom.  They have been manipulated into this shitstorm, and they will be the ones who die.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:07 | 4485447 matrix2012
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WHOSE BACKYARD THEY MESSED WITH??? IT IS NOT MEXICO. NEITHER IS CANADA. SHOULD YOU WONDER???

 

MAY LORD BLESS THE MANKIND TO TRASH THE ZATO BOGEYMAN FORCES!!!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:41 | 4484916 dbTX
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Putin owns Obama, simple as that.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 12:57 | 4485006 nowhereman
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Tylers, is this part of the western media's propaganda?  Are you fronting for the White House Media Corps?  Where do you get off saying, and I quote; "Putin is doing what he does best: employing brute force"  Tell me how many Ukranians lives has Russian "brute force" taken?

Sometimes I really wonder just who writes this shit.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:17 | 4485502 gdpetti
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Ditto that... which would explain a few things. Anyone that has read or listend/watched Prof Antony Sutton(Cali) findings a generation ago will recognize the US/NATO policy in Kiev just now... same oligarch policy that brought us the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, the new oligarchs under Yelstin.... and around the world... same policy, same pattern everytime. It's what they do, it's who they are. NWO rules of engagement. Obviously this statement is approved for internet media release or it wouldn't be on this site, right? What was that quote by the guy in charge of the NYT a decade or so ago?... "We are intellectual prostitutes." History just keeps repeating itself until we 'wake up' and learn our lessons. This basic world domination game led by not-so-secret-societies is expected at this point in the curve. Wait a couple months and you won't be paying attention to any of this puppet show crap anymore. Mother Nature is preparing to draw the curtain, as she does on a regular basis.... another one of those patterns, hardly anyone is paying attention to.

I don't hear much from Al Gore these days... why is that? The same will follow for these 'revolutions' by 'useful idiots'.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 13:30 | 4485243 TweedleDeeDooDah
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Strange....
Nashies against Nazis...
It's 1941 ideologies fighting all over again...

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 13:22 | 4485176 Balanced Integer
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Well this Ukraine thing is going down exactly as I figured it would.

Ukraine's ousted president Viktor Yanukovych is "sheltering in place" in a sanitarium outside of Moscow. ( http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/ap_9818791c32f948eaaa57f6df71710432 )

Soon to be set up in Sevestopol in the new Republic of the Crimea, fully supported by an armed militia of bikers and skinheads, and a couple of Russian mechanized rifle divisions. Watch for the deployment of a Guards Tank army along the border across from Kharkiv and Luhansk.

I would be shocked if Russia doesn't move forcefully to give the new Ukraine a bit of the Georgia treatment, writ large. There was no other reason for Putin to hand out Russian passports to Ukrainian citizins in the regions unless he was going to use it as his ace in the hole to protect Russia's interests in the Crimea.

Shit's about to get real out there. I'm long popcorn and potassium iodine futures for this one.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 13:27 | 4485222 praxis
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Hey if it's going to be raw naked aggression and Russian can't stand a western leaning Ukraine then I'm all for a smack down of Cuba. You know what? Fuck it! If it's WW III then let's go round up the Castro brothers and destroy their god damn military. Tit for tat Vlad! Get your fucking navy out of the Western Hemisphere and oh hey China sure you want dick around Panama?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 01:11 | 4487778 litemine
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Praxis  :  Fuck you and your warmongering . Take a Smell, Your Shit Stinks.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 13:35 | 4485267 TweedleDeeDooDah
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Crimea has muslims and internet.
IED and EFP are probably trending pretty high on goggle searches in .ua right now.

Probably plenty of the "FSA" and the ilk on their way...

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 13:41 | 4485301 skifff
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No one identified this regiment... all you could say: these are Russian maid BTR-80. Ukrainian army has them. Black Sea Fleet Marines of Russian Federation there too...- lawfully, they are based there... so vehicles could belong to anyone... they didn't do anything unlawful, aggressive or provocative.

what all the fuss was about?

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 13:46 | 4485332 royal
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Go Putin!!!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:02 | 4485423 matrix2012
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EXACTLY I WANNA SEE FROM RUSSIA. LESS TALKS. LESS WORDS. ALL REAL ACTIONS. GO PUTIN GO RUSSIA!!!

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:03 | 4485432 Johnny Cocknballs
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Great power competition has been the undoing of many a weaker country caught in the middle. Even Henry Kissinger, an architect of the near total destruction of Vietnam for what every U.S. official at the time described as a vital U.S. interest, has admitted that it was largely about irrational fears of the plans of America’s great power rivals.

“Americans found it difficult to accept that a medium-sized developing nation could cultivate such a fierce commitment only for its own parochial causes,” Kissinger wrote in On China. “Hence they interpreted Vietnamese actions as symbols of a deeper design. Hanoi’s combativeness was treated as a vanguard of a Sino-Soviet coordinated conspiracy to dominate at least Asia.”

“The assessment was wrong on both grounds,” Kissinger adds. “Hanoi was not any other country’s proxy. It fought for its vision of independence…”

The lesson is obvious: to craft interventionist policies on the grounds that U.S. indifference will be some other nation’s gain is dangerous and futile. In short, stay the hell out of other people’s business.

- Interventionism in Ukraine: The Destructive Logic of Great Power Competition

 

 

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:09 | 4485459 Dorelei
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Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:26 | 4485484 Son of Captain Nemo
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When you know you've slapped the American "military biatch" silly!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/27/us-ukraine-crisis-breedlove-idUSBREA1Q1F220140227

And why the Russians have every right to be pissed off.  What comes to mind is that great line in this movie "I've seen what you can do with little boys, now let's see what you can do when they come a little bigger"...

 

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:34 | 4485584 Son of Captain Nemo
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Smells like your horse has been eating "Beefaroni"?...

Got corruption?

"We are beginning to behave like a poor nation," he added, saying some Americans do not perceive the connection between U.S. engagement abroad and the U.S. economy, their own jobs and wider U.S. interests."...  -John Kerry Secretary of State?

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:35 | 4485591 Tracerfan
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From the Saker of Vineyard blog, an update.

In Kiev, the leaders of the insurgency have taken full control of the Parliament and immediately passed laws revoking the official status of the Russian language.

  • The political leaders of the insurgency have gone to the Maidan to obtain the approval of the proposed members of the new government.
  • Just as Ms Nuland had ordered, Iatseniuk has taken the post of Prime Minister
  • On the Maidan itself, deep differences are now opposing different parts of the crowd.
  • The neo-Nazi leader of the "Maidan security forces" and one of the founders of the Freedom Party, Andrei Parubii, becomes chief of the Security Council.
  • The leader of the neo-Nazi Right Sector. Dmitri Iarosh, has become Deputy chief of the Security Council.
  • The rest of the new government are mostly supporters of ex-President Yushchenko in other words: loyal US agents.
  • The new regime has disbanded the riot police thereby liquidating the last force capable of maintaining law and order in the regions controlled by the insurgents.  Now is mob rule, pure and simple.
  • The local currency is in free fall, Iatseniuk claims that $35'000'000'000 are immediately needed to avoid a default.  The full debt is $170'000'000'000.
  • In the regime controlled areas, "expropriations" (assault & robbery) are taking place everywhere and criminals rule the street.
  • Yanukovich has been exfiltrated from the Ukraine by Russian security forces (more about that later)
  • The Parliament of Tatarstan and the World Congress of Tatars has appealed to the Crimea Tatars to basically stop the crap (it was said in more police terms).  Kudos for the wisdom of these two organizations!
  • Unidentified armed men have taken over the building of the Crimean Parliament at 4AM only to make sure that this time the elected members of this parliament could enter the building and convene a meeting.  A Russian flag was raised over the Parliament building
  • Kharkov governor Mikhail Dobkin has resigned his post to run for President of the Ukraine on May 25th.
  • The Crimean Parliament has taken over all the functions of the central government and has announced a referendum on the future of Crimean to be held on May 25th.
  • The newly elected mayor of Sevastopol has met with the Commander in Chief of the Black Sea Fleet.  Both men has declared that no violence of any kind will be tolerated.
  • New popular defense militias have been formed in Crimea and their numbers are estimated at somewhere between 5'000-15'000 men organized in platoons.  They have taken control of all the key roads and are now filtering traffic for any "visitors" from the insurgency-controlled areas.
  • Senior members of the Russian Parliament have visited the Crimea to express their support for the local people and hold consultations with their Crimean colleagues.
  • In Russia the opinions are split as to what to do:  Vladimir Zhirinovksy and his LDPR Party say that Russia should stay out of it but not pay a single Ruble to the Ukrainians.  The Communists want Russia to bring the issue to the UNSC.  The "Just Russia" Party (most "moderate") are expressing full support for the people of the Crimea and say that Russia has to intervene and assist them.  All-in-all, the takeover by over neo-Nazis in Kiev seems to be triggering a mix of disgust and rage which will put a lot of pressure on the Kremlin to do something.
  • Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:43 | 4485623 SmittyinLA
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    Russia's potential to "fuck with" the US is almost unlimited at this point in time, they could:

    • spike global oil prices
    • torpedo our entire Mid East foreign policy with RPG sales distribution
    • collapse the dollar

    Those "actions" wouldn't cost them a dime but would actually bring in billions in new revenues, they don't because we're "allied" politically (sorta). 

    Russia didn't lift a finger & do to us what we did to them in Afghanistan, we can't rely on that generosity while we stab them in the back pushing a Fascist/Socialist EU asset grab in Ukraine. 

     

     

    Thu, 02/27/2014 - 15:09 | 4485735 CourageousDogSn...
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    Hey Tyler,

    Could we get an update on reports from Kiev about a certain religious minority being attacked. I hear that churches are hidding some families and leaders of this religious minority and urging its members to flee the city.

     

    Thu, 02/27/2014 - 18:10 | 4486480 jmp esp
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    Sounds irrelevant.

    Thu, 02/27/2014 - 15:24 | 4485849 KCMLO
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    I've been thinking about this for a while.  The US main power projection in the world is (obviously) our military.  Economically everyone is hurting but we really had a leg cut out from under us.  Our military is still ridiculously strong but has been geared for the last decade towards police actions and insurgency.  The current budget farce is looking to take us further down that path.  For us to try to fight a state vs. state war right now could be a bit messy though it would probably be almost all Air Force/Navy again (see Desert Storm/Allied Force) so it wouldn't necessarily be a manpower issue so much as hardware.  That would work if we were dropping bombs on dipshit countries like Iraq, but probably won't held up well against a strong military tradition/technology state like Russia.

    Furthermore, the American public in spite of their other obvious idiocies don't really have an appetite for war any longer.  Putin knows this, he had this view reinforced with the showdown over Syria.  Even if we could fight a standup war with Russia (I'm not convinced we could without staggering losses) we no longer have the will or financial ability to do so.  America is now completely toothless, particularly in this situation.

    Why should the average dipshit American give a fuck about a former Soviet State that was never really our buddy being bullied by Russia?  Maybe 5-10 years ago we could rouse the idiot populace with some sort of "America!  Rah Rah!" sort of bullshit patriotism but that tank has run dry.  It's all about self-interest now and we have pretty much none in Ukraine.

    Thu, 02/27/2014 - 15:26 | 4485860 Dollarmedes
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    We've heard recent reports that government intelligence agencies have been spiking the internet with disinformation to control the narrative and discredit dissent.

    I wonder if they included any feedback mechanism, so that the higher-ups can know when their bullshit isn't working and they need to change their story.

    'Cuz it would seem like a good idea for Obama/Soros/Putin/Yellen to know that we know what they're up to. Otherwise...just how incompetent are they?

    Thu, 02/27/2014 - 18:12 | 4486488 jmp esp
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    I'd expect most such systems to be comparable to healthcare.gov in their completeness and stability.

    Fri, 02/28/2014 - 02:21 | 4487868 AgentScruffy
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    So how does Mr. Yushchenko go from being poisoined by (maybe) the KGB or Russians, to leading a "people revolution," to stubbornly trying to hold on to power + fleeing to the bosom of Mother Russia, whom it seems he expects to violently crush the rebellion and re-install him?
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/yushchenko-live-and-carry-on/

    Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:36 | 4489805 Volkodav
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