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Supreme Court Rules Police May Search A Home Without Obtaining A Warrant
If the most disturbing, if underreported, news from yesterday, was Obama's "modification" of NSA capabilities, which contrary to his earlier promises, was just granted even greater powers as phone recording will now be stored for even longer than previously, then this latest development from the Supreme Court - one which some could argue just voided the Fourth amendment - is even more shocking. RT reports that the US Supreme Court has ruled that police may search a home without obtaining a warrant despite the objection of one occupant if that occupant has been removed from the premises. With its 6 to 3 decision in Fernandez v. California on Tuesday, the Court sided with law enforcement’s ability to conduct warrantless searches after restricting police powers with its 2006 decision on a similar case.
In 2009, the Los Angeles Police Department sought suspect Walter Fernandez, believed to have stabbed someone in a violent gang robbery. When police first arrived at the suspect’s home, they heard yelling and screaming before Fernandez’s live-in girlfriend Roxanne Rojas answered the door, appearing “freshly bruised and bloody,” and with an infant in hand, according to argument recap by SCOTUSblog.
Fernandez was spotted by police, and said, “Get out. I know my rights. You can’t come in.” Yet police arrested him on charges of domestic violence. Later, once Fernandez was out of the home, police asked Rojas for permission to conduct a search, which yielded evidence implicating Fernandez in the robbery.
Probable cause or probable loss of all civil rights?
The Court’s decision justified the police actions, with Justice Samuel Alito writing the majority’s position.
“A warrantless consent search is reasonable and thus consistent with the Fourth Amendment irrespective of the availability of a warrant,” Alito wrote. He added that “denying someone in Rojas’ position the right to allow the police to enter her home would also show disrespect for her independence.”
Alito was joined in the majority by Justices Breyer, Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg – joined in the minority by Justices Kagan and Sotomayor, marking a gender divide among the Justices in the case – wrote the dissenting opinion, calling the decision a blow to the Fourth Amendment, which prohibits “unreasonable searches and seizures.”
“Instead of adhering to the warrant requirement,” Ginsburg wrote, “today’s decision tells the police they may dodge it, nevermind ample time to secure the approval of a neutral magistrate.” Tuesday’s ruling, she added, “shrinks to petite size our holding in Georgia v. Randolph.”
Georgia v. Randolph was a similar case the Supreme Court addressed in 2006, in which a domestic violence suspect would not allow police to enter his home, though his wife did offer police consent. The police ultimately entered the home. The Court ruled in the case that the man’s refusal while being present in the home should have kept authorizes from entering.
“A physically present inhabitant’s express refusal of consent to a police search [of his home] is dispositive as to him, regardless of the consent of a fellow occupant,” the majority ruled in that case.
In addressing Randolph in the majority opinion, Alito wrote that the difference between that case and Fernandez was the physical presence of the suspect.
“Our opinion in Randolph took great pains to emphasize that its holding was limited to situations in which the objecting occupant is physically present,” he wrote.
“We therefore refuse to extend Randolph to the very different situation in this case, where consent was provided by an abused woman well after her male partner had been removed from the apartment they shared.”
Prior to Randolph and Fernandez, the Court ruled in the 1974 case United States v. Matlock that any one of the co-tenants in a home can consent to a police search of the premises.
Well there goes the fourth amen... oh look, over there: it's another all time high in the S&P 500. On paper, those who hold stocks have never been richer. Everyone else, barricade your doors, and the police come knocking, don't even bother answering - they will come in anyway. And also prepare your guns for return to the government: that particular "constitutional" amendment is the next to go.
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"Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgement that something is more important than fear; The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.”
? Meg Cabot, The Princess Diaries
"Freedom is just another word for Nothing left to Lose"
- Janis Joplin
The price of Freedom cannot be purchased with Gold or Silver. It comes at a horrific cost of Blood, Sweat, and Tears. Far too many take for granted the sacrifices made Centuries ago on thier behalf.
It is sad to see that a day is approaching when the same price will have to be paid again. Many lives will be destroyed or impacted so that there may be hope that some will see freedom, however fleeting, again.
Love it! Really thankful for you and MsCreant to round things out around here. Anyone who underestimates the will of Americans to fight back is forgetting the fact that Barry has been and continues to be the greatest gun salesman of all time.
And if only 3% of those were utilized, there would be 30,000,000 of them utilized.
Asymmetrical ass-whoopin', 4th generation style.
'merika.
MOLON LABE.
On my car on the left is my molon labe sticker. On the right is my "fuck this ...I'm going to yoga" under an Om sticker. It's funny to sit at stop lights and see guys staring at me with their jaws dropped. I think they can't believe I'm driving the car. I will admit cops walk up to me cautiously when I get pulled over which happens quite often.
Miffed;-)
That's fucking funny!
@Miffed
~~~
I apologize [in advance] for the unsolicited praise... But I have it [from a good source] that you are a HERO of francis_sawyer... Not that you'd EVER want to be associated with an @sshole like that...
Absolutely enamoured with the man. He spoke to my heart many many times and I am ashamed I hadn't said so before his untimely departure. Will you pass this on to him if you meet? I would be eternally grateful. I should have stood more in solidarity and am hoping he will forgive me.
Miffed;-)
My molon labe sticker is on the left too! Oathkeepers sticker is on the right. Sadly, in a moment of insanity I put an NRA sticker back there too - those guys spared no expense on those things - I think it is melded to the glass, can't get it off!
i have a nuke the gay whales for jesus sticker
I thought it was TEPCO via G.E.zus?
We're all Palestinian gay whales now.
"No knock."
"Who's there?"
"Isotopes."
"Isotopes who?"
"Isotopes your 4th amendment and cancer, bitchez"
Great things to life.
Okay, sir, here's your greenie with a side of belly laugh. Your total comes to: one mouthful of fine scotch spat on the floor during said belly laugh. Please pay the cashier on your way out.
i'm so upset i can't give you a green arrow. You just woke up my boyfriend from me laughing!
Buying guns and using them to fight back are two very different things.
America will be the first communist nation where people have the right to own guns.
I don't know. After seeing that Ukrainian crowd take out that armored vehicle with fire bombs I've realized there may be some hope. We outnumber them.
The mob is the ultimate equalizer. I don't see the government changing it's path, so it's coming.
It is often precisely when you have abandoned all hope that you become your most dangerous.
You and I know that. Abandon all hope ye who enter here. It is bloody hell.
right to shoot a cop through the door? that's a guarnteed Dorner on you
wut?
edit: How many cops went after Dorner?
Multiplication?
i'd say hundreds and they burn the cottage down just to make sure.
-don't let them back you into a dorner
nobody backs John Travolta into a corner.
edit: wrong movie.
"Fucking burn this motherfucker!" - Video
How Law Enforcement and Media Covered Up the Plan to Burn Christopher Dorner Alive
"'Burn that fucking house down!' shouted a deputy through a scanner transmission inadvertently broadcast on the Los Angeles local news channel, KCAL 9. 'Fucking burn this motherfucker!' another cop could be heard exclaiming."
"While live ammo exploded inside the cabin, the deputies pondered whether the basement would burn as well – they wanted to know if its ceiling was made of wood or concrete. They assumed Dorner was hiding there, and apparently wanted to ensure that he would be burned to a crisp. 'Because the fire is contained, I’m gonna let that heat burn through the basement,' a deputy declared."
"Around the same time, the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department requested that all reporters and media organizations stop tweeting about the ongoing standoff with Dorner, claiming their journalism was 'hindering officer safety.' As the cabin sheltering Dorner burned, the local CBS affiliate was reportedly told by law enforcement to zoom its helicopter camera out to avoid showing the actions of sheriff’s deputies. By all accounts, the media acceded to police pressure for self-censorship."
"'We’re gonna go ahead with the plan with the burner,' one sheriff’s deputy told another. 'Like we talked about.' Minutes later, another deputy’s voice crackled across the radio: 'The burner’s deployed and we have a fire.'"
"'Burners,' or military grade incendiary grenades, are very likely among the items passed down from the US army to local police outfits like the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department.The 'burner' of choice for the modern American soldier is the AN-M14 TH3. It is a hand held grenade comprised of a thermite mixture that rapidly converts to molten iron when it is thrown, burning at a temperature of 4000 degrees Fahrenheit, hot enough to burn through a half inch steel plate or bring an engine block to a boil. It can also produce enough heat to set off unloaded ammunition, which would explain why the ammo inside Dorner’s hideout was popping."
"By burning Dorner alive, then misleading and deceiving the public about the operation, the sheriffs may have validated the rogue ex-cop’s sharpest indictments of the culture of American law enforcement."
"Yet no element in the Dorner drama was more disturbing than the performance of mainstream media. At every point, major news outlets complied with law enforcement calls for self-censorship, and still demonstrate little interest in determining how and why a lethal fire started on a snow-covered mountain in the dead of winter. As a quintessentially American tragedy reaches its denouement, the truth remains buried beneath a smoldering pile of ashes."
The Andy Griffith's retire, don't sign up, or if they do get out ASAP.
The ones that now sign up or stay in the current system enjoy the power, the testosterone, the role.
These are the same types eager to join the Waffen SS, Stalin's enforcers, and Mao's Red Brigade.
I pity those decent peace officers who joined to do good but find themselves in this militarization insanity.
Our locals here are decent enough. Non-union, with hiring policies that give preference to candidates with more education, and better mental test scores. No SWAT team at all. Last time I saw an ad for a new position within the department, there was still no preference given for prior military experience. The PD in the adjoining town (about 4X our population) just got an MRAP.
Yes, many local departments are decent, but the moment something goes down, the Feds will likely attempt to federalize all LE, then bring in a goon squad. At that point everyone will have a decision to make, obey the goon squad, or something else.
Most all "good" departments are merely at an earlier point on the same timeline.
One election, one murder, and you jump ahead like cop candyland.
pods
"Good" Cops are like Unicorns, Sasquatch's, Mermaids or an 'affordable' Obamacare plan......Heard lots os stories 'bout em, but just don't beLIEve the exist they are an Urban Legend
Good cops do exist....they are so good they give them parades and carry them around in a shiny box....
There are some cops that are good. I have met a few in my time.
The most dangerous element about being a cop is when they are working Criminal Enforcement...(NOTE THE TERM...IT IS NOT BY ACCIDENT.) They become Criminals and ENFORCE Criminal Law. Criminal Law is not about justice but is about how a Crime Syndicate runs its affairs. The Enforcers do Criminal acts against the opposition.
This terminology is NOT ACCIDENTAL. It means exactly what it says.
Good Cops, those who are not corruptable, are moved into places as Administration, Traffic, or Courtroom duty. They do not advance and are drummed out of the Force.
In San Diego County most Sheriff Department Deputies begin thier career in the County Jail System. It is here that they are introduced to the Criminals and the Criminal Justice Syaytem. (NOTE THE TERMINOLOGY.) By the time that they advance out of that environment they are the first responders to Crime.
Thus they perceive that EVERYBODY is a Criminal because that is all that they see. They do not see people behaving well. (There is no need for that. Nobody calls the Cops to report a benevolent and loving action.)
So what they get is a biased and skewed view of the population. The problem is that it is distorted intentionally so that when the time comes then they will fire upon decent law abiding citizens.
There are some that escape this indoctrination. But they are as common as those who see the Red Team/Blue Team False Paradigm. But there are some...some. They, like us, are not an Urban Legend. We exist. They exist. They are on the same team. There may even be some here on this Forum. They are worthy of due respect.
No. I am not one of them. I am not a cop. But I would not be surprised if some frequent here.
No disagreement from me there.
It's been a few years since Animal House and College and where have they gone to?
The Greg Marmalrds are running the JPM's and GS's and congress.
And the Niedemeyers are running the police.
What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer..
I do believe there used to be some true Andy Griffith guys out there but I bet that show was put in place partly to make people like law enforcement more. I imagine it would have actually been more like easy rider back then.
free speech zones
eroding second amendment
this
ndaa
may i go to the bathroom?
You may either wait until Processing is through with you, or you may go right were you stand.
You may only go right where you stand if you pay the Obamacare Incontinence Sanitation surcharge. (Just don't call it a tax!)
Constitution Free Zones...
All of Florida!
DaddyO
I have my pocket Constitution right next to my concealed weapons permit.
And you don't see that as redundant?
pods
Not really, the weapons permit gives the document teeth! Like a wonderful symbiotic relationship..
Permit=Permission
What if they told you no, you cannot carry (bear) your arms how you so choose?
pods
I wouldn't choose...I'm a well regulated militia...
Correct, so the permit is redundant.
You are braver than me. I won't get a CCW for that fact.
You mean the Constitution is the permit...right?
STATIST!
:)
As in this? http://polymontana.com/dhs-declares-search-and-seizure-rights-inside-100...
Supine court almost fully horizontal.
Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
USSA, game over for freedom.
Was it over when the commies bombed Pearl Harbor?
Ten years from now:
Supreme Court Rules all homes must have a camera installed for monitoring to protect us.
Ten years from now there will be no supreme court, or United States.
Such optimism.
Time to reinstall the claymores.
This shit is surreal.
Oh well, time to fight. They think it's going to be just like Australia.
Sadly, they are wrong.
Apart from extreme red tape to get a gun license, then more to purchase a weapon (all up can take 6 months or more) we have ammo registration in NSW and open search warrants in Sth Australia:
http://www.dewarlegal.com/blog/?p=26
This unimpressive document – recently described by one of our clients as “some [expletive] bus ticket that I could have typed up on the computer myself” – allows a police officer, at any time of the day or night, to “enter into, break open and search any house, building, premises or place”
But keep on recommending Austalia and our insolvent banks Simon Black .....send the gullible our way :(
oh and in QUeensland we now have anti-association laws aimed at "bikies" but it doesn't specify "bikies" so 3 or more "bikies" in a public place is a ticket to jail even if they're related - lawyers are scared to call "bikie" witnesses in case they have 3 or more at a court house at any one time and get a free trip to jail.
We just complain for a moment then....... well then nothing
I'm in NSW (Sydney).
Same crappy laws here.
To have any firearm you must have approval from the police, you must register the firearm and you must agree that the police can inspect the firearm and your gun safe (compulsory) at your home at any time, no warrant necessary.
Our cops now have the power to demand ID, to demand you move on (no right of protest) and to conduct strip searches in public.
Saw 3 bikies stopped and questioned by cops last week at my local shops. They must stop, they must answer questions and they must accompany the police when ordered. No probable cause or need for arrest required.
the strategy seems to be - let each state introduce new draconian legislation that if introduced nationally would cause an uproar.... then call on the states to introduce uniformity in their random laws and it becomes national by default and without an up roar.
bikies are not my cup of tea (they've caused havoc in towns I've lived) but jesus arresting brother-in-laws with a passing by bikie delivering a pizza for unlawful association, sticking them in jail over Xmas without knowledge of a release date.......wow!
Of side interest, I was informed to not have any pro-gun type of bumber sticker on my car if I should legally purchase an authorised weapon and need to put it into a discrete hidden locked box in my (lift back) car to transport it to my property.... I could be arrested for advertising I had a gun in the car...... WTF?
All this SWATing and constitutional violations of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th amendments will end in tears. It is a pile of dry tinder and everyone is running around with matches.
It could be a SWAT team who kills a little kid on camera, or a million other things probably involving state initiated violence, then bam, civil war.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." - John Kennedy
stupid, stupid, stupid. They will lose and badly if it's allowed to get to that point.
In Detroilet they already killed a young girl sleeping on the couch. (and it was filmed I think, by A&E)
Flash bang and bang.
That was years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Aiyana_Jones
pods
You're right, it's happened before. Though the tinder wasn't stacked high enough at the time. Now we're in a situation just like pre-forest fire, or pre-avalanche where we all know it's only a matter of a trigger event. The conditions are all set for a massive disaster of epic proportions. It's very sad, but it's not for lack of warning.
No it won't, at least not for the police. I never ceased to be amazed at what the police are allowed to do, including murder, and there is almost never any reprecussions. My case in point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA0v1TF4Q34
I've posted before but I can't help it. 7 seconds. Man whittling on a stick walking in downtown Seattle. An office gets out of his car, and 7 seconds later, the man is dead laying on the sidewalk. Listen closely and you can hear a woman yelling at the police officer telling him that the man wasn't doing anything. Consequence? The officer resigned, but did so on the same day that he learned that he would not be prosecuted. Birk had testified that he feared for his life... Please...
"They will lose and badly if it's allowed to get to that point. "
No worries, it'll never get to that point. Americans just don't have it in them.
it's no longer a matter of playing fast and loose with the constitution...SCOTUS now simply ignores it.
time to level that 10X10 den of sin.
what started as a swamp has deteriorated into a cesspool.
fuck each and every last one of you.
ps. NSA, please hold onto those records...we're gonna need em for the show-trials.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIxyc-XY9eQ
ask not for whom the bell tolls/
it tolls for thee,
janus
Of course this is just a rayciss decision and John Corzine parties on !
Try that at my home and believe, BELIEVE ME! Your going to have a many dead UNITED STATED, CORP INC Pinkerton DEAD PIGS! Followed by a small scaled war.
This and the Defruading of The American People has gone too far.
Re: This and the Defruading of The American People has gone too far.
Don't cross that line, or I'm warnin' ya...
Ok, ok, well, don't cross this line or, look, don't get me mad....
Ok, now you've done it, if you cross this line here....
I don't talk shit & I definitely do not FUCK around.
This isn't Boston Motherfuckers! You want war. Yo got war. COME AND GET SOME PUSSIES!!!
So the JBTs cross that line and you go down taking a few pigs with you?
You will be labled a dead crazy that had kiddie porn on his hard drives and the dead cops family will get a fat pension.
Better option is to bend with the wind, let them trample your rights, say yes Sir.
But remember their faces, badge numbers and precinct details.
A few months later serve up your payback in their homes. That leaves more dead pigs, no pig family members left alive to suck on the government teat and you can remain anonymous, free and alive. Then serve up a dish best served cold to the higher ups who allowed the police state to grow.
Just an option.
Fernandez sounds like a real scumbag.
yea...
and the irony that the "perceived violation" of constitutional rights for this scumbag could be a tipping point for all the anti-gov., gun-hoarding, right-wing, tea party lunatics to "fight"?
fight for what? for who?
mr. fernandez?
you've got to be fucking kidding me.
so glad to be far away in a happier place...
Re: nti-gov., gun-hoarding, right-wing, tea party lunatics to "fight"?
Nothin but a bunch of ACLU lovin goddamn pinko hippies who hate Merica, and the troops.
If you can't trust the LAPD, who can you trust?
ok, now thats fucking funny
So this is why Holder got faint and short of breath.. He was hyperventilating with excitement.
Fukit. There is no law anymore.
They will reap what they sow someday.
In the meantime they will reap what we slaves are forced to harvest for them.
You are not paying attention then.
Only the Law of the Jungle is still in force,been that way for a while.
And the sheeple graze on.
Ginsburg actually supported a constitutional position? Lightning must have finally struck that fucking bitch. Won't happen twice, for sure.
Owned and operated by the same swill that runs both parties in Congress.
They have there smoking jackets on at 6:30 after they present the Landmark Judicial Decision and then trade cigar and brandy for who will be on the hook for providing the "dissenting opinion" on the next go around.
When I was kid I always imagined totalitarianism was quickly ushered in with a lot of armbands, banner waving, and Wagner.
This shit that creeps in with apathy and a Miley Cyrus soundtrack SUCKS!
Listen to some Bolt Thrower - The IVth Crusade to get that garbage outta yer head.
I appreciate the link friend, but I fear you may have sent the wrong one. I believe that recording was of a guy violently shitting out his bad Mexican lunch combo.
"released in 1992 by Earache records"
At least they're on the right label.
Look on the bright side, they're going to organize the Dept of Truth and within a few years our kids will be reading how American bankers financed the caveman that invented the wheel.
When that first shot is fired, the one's who have families and aren't on roids will most likely be tending to them.
If they're smart.
Connecticut looks like ground zero at this point, if the roid squads decide to follow through with the confiscations.
I have several friends who saw multiple combat tours.
They have shared many stories about tactics in battle.
You just outlined how to disrupt action within a group, hit one and the others come to aid.
Pelvic girdle is another quick acquisition target zone, never have to worry about body armour.
Hit center mass which knocks target off balance, then a couple to pelvic girdle. Quite painful and lots of larger vessels.
Anyone who thinks body armour gives one invincibility has never done much research, only rifle plates offer effective insulation.
Soft armour may save your life but will leave you dazed and confused until help arrives and gets you to serious medical attention.
Just some thoughts shared by those who had first hand experience.
DaddyO
You are correct. Though even getting hit in the "chicken plate" will hurt like mad.
The best thing people can do if they expect a stack on their door and a flash bang through the window: don't be there when they do.
Wear your earplugs.
.357 Magnum Hydrashock. Questions???
i got one
how are you gonna make a hole in the vest you can shoot that thru?
See my comment above
DaddyO
maskone909 rules that you better be prepared to catch some 3" 00 buckshot in the face.
throw these decrepid peices of shit out or execute them for treason. tick tock
If a criminal breaks down your door with body armor and especially rifle plates, you might as well kiss them on the cheek or be good and fast enough to hit them in the face, because a kiss would be more effective on their OODA loop than buckshot
i have 223's
if a guy can afford 500 dollar trauma plates what the fuck would he be doing resedential B&E rambo missions. besisdes last i herd they dont make trauma plates for the face. and with 15 .32 cal pellets, i dont really have to be a good shot.
You're right. "Hips and heads"
How much does that buckshot spread at ten feet? Headshot under stress might be harder than you think
And, wouldn't a load of 00 in the chest knock you off your feet? Then shoot the legs/pelvis/head depending on how merciful you feel.
Just asking, I don't know
To every action is an equal and opposite reaction - i.e. the same energy at your shoulder, slightly less will be on the receiving end, but really fast in a projectile form.
At 10 feet, buckshot stays pretty tight. It stays pretty tight until it loses energy, or hits a wall, then it turns into a mess. That's why it's so dangerous inside buildings.
you would actually kill people?
what are you?
a psychopath?
WWJD?
Every great philosopher supported the idea of self defense from Jesus to Ghandi.
there are many meanings of self defense, and so we would need to agree on a definition.
case a: bush doctrine "pre-emptive strike".
case b: anticipatory counter-strike.
case c: reactive, retaliatory strike.
case d: escape and evasion.
case z: avoid putting self into environment(s) where one is forced to choose case a, b, c, or d.
my libtard bro always told me, "if you have to buy guns to defend yourself, you have already lost." meaning that you can avoid trouble by choosing your surroundings. what so many peeps dont understand is that sometimes your surroundings choose you. and whats wrong with being prepared for the worst case scenarios?
well i would agree with your bro.
nothing wrong being prepped for bad scenarios. i also have insurance plans...
if you're an "expect the worst, hope for the best" kind of person, then tell me what is your contingency plan for mitigating the risks and consequences that stem from the worst case sea level rise scenario?
what would you do if the "world as you know it" ends today, tomorrow, next week, next year, next decade, next century?
Father God
Thank You for granting me the serenty to change the things which I can change
To accept the things which I cannot change
And the wisdom to know the difference.
In Christ Jesus Name...
I cannot do anything about Sea Level rises.
If TEOTWAWKI happens today, tommorow, or next year I am not in any position to change that.
So I prepare for the worst and hope for the best and understand that there is NO HOPE in ANY POLITICAL SYSTEM.
If your faith and hope is placed in POLITICAL SOLUTIONS then you are making a Grave Error.
If you do not believe that it is just to defend yourself then, by all means, do not. If you act without Faith then it is to your Damnation.
However it is not your position to impose that belief upon others and demand compliance. Each and every man will make decisions. Some will be wise and others not.
I am neither justifying nor condemning any decision made. It is not my position. I have not the authority. I am not in other's shoes.
I certainly will not label them as psychopaths as you did. They are concerned about preserving thier lives. ACCEPT THAT. If you learn how to do that, and, if you make the decision to do that, then you are better equipped with the information than without.
Just because you have the information does not mean that you must act upon it. Some will act. Others may decide not to act. It is a very serious action to deprive another of thier life.
But I'd rather be equipped with the knowledge and decide not to act rather than decide to act and not be equipped with the knowledge...That is the prudent action to take and is part of being prepared MENTALLY.
Hopefully this does not happen. But there is no hope on planet Earth. (There is the Kingdom of God rather than the Animal Kingdom...)You as a Christian need know that.
dude, you are taking things too seriously. (or you're a master of sarcasm, i can't tell...)
what to do about sea level rises?
hmmm. here's one idea. we transition to a post-capitalist system encouraged by the technological revolution in alternative and renewable energy sources, more sustainable farming practices, de-centralized and redundant food/water supply chains, universal basic income, robust federated power structures with a bit of global governance, etc. just to name a few.
doing nothing to save the world is such an evangelical christian thing to do. (your bible was and always has been a means of keeping the masses in servitude to a higher order.)
you just want to be saved and go to heaven, i get it. so, why do you procrastinate and waste time suffering on planet earth?
Well, firstly, the Bush treason doctrine is bullshit.
Secondly, most people aren't looking for trouble, they're just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Life happens sometimes. Avoidance is always the preferred track, but sometimes you end up in a heap of shit. So people train for that situation, hoping it will never occur.
LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT YA GODDAMN CRIMINAL LOVIN' PINKO LIBERAL HIPPIES!
AND GET A GODDAMN HAIRCUT!
Yeah people this is fucking amazing shit.
Cookie should be excommunicated because they contain your IP.
SQL banned because it contains your zerohedge password !
C++ banned because an evil chinese nerd can watch you jerking off !
And finally 1 & 0 torched to the gemonies because they are the ultimate CIA weapon to watch your selfie.THey are fucking everywhere invading your privacy and copulate to give evil result like 666, 3,14 or 42 !
What you guys have is a really serious pathology and should be treated as soon as possible in a Public hospital ! It's called Paranoia !!
Paranoia /?pær??n???/ (adjective: paranoid /?pær?n??d/) is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of irrationality and delusion. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs, or beliefs of conspiracy concerning a perceived threat towards oneself (e.g. "Everyone is out to get me"). Paranoia is distinct from phobias, which also involve irrational fear, but usually no blame. Making false accusations and the general distrust of others also frequently accompany paranoia. For example, an incident most people would view as an accident or coincidence, a paranoid person might believe was intentional.
I know your are already loaded up on all crazy shit to compensate your desintegrated ego but we might start with adderall because you can't think straight, laxative because scatophilia is so much fun, xanax because your girlfriends dumped you because Viagra didn't work on your micro penis !!
I'm really fucking serious on this guys, it might deprive you of the best moments of your life , lead to suicides and harming other persons pursuit of freedomand hapiness for no fucking reason !
I know Freud,Jung and lacan are dead and this dream team wouldn't be enough to treat the millions of golden sheeples you are !
But i Know a very good indian shaman in a reserve which have amazing result in evolving stincky coakroaches ! He can teach them how to fully communicate and dream peacefully.
He follows an holistic, druidic, bodhisattvas , holistic medicine, yoga and so much more . A real ascetic ghandi living in a cave without internet!
Stairway to heaven !
Ciao a Tutti,
Your crazy and beloved mass psychanalist !
probably one of them hippy eco trrrssss that's why we need more government programs like the NSA.
So these goddamn liberal pinko commies don't overthrow this great-n-glorous country.
This goddamn site is soundin' more an more like a bunch of liberal ACLU commies. Anti NSA, anti cops, pro-criminal, pro-trrrrsss... What happened to a STRONG Merica that kicked-ass first and asked questions later. That's what this goddamn country needs, not a bunch of anti-authritarian commy liberal pansies ACLU members; "Oh don't hurt the criminals, Oh the cops are bad" This goddam country used to be somethin when we were men, not a bunch of pinko commy girly-men!
We need to be watchin all these Liberals who hate Merica, and the troops.
Men your really blind !
I have been using internet since its inception like a new organ to perceive the word in an enhanced way !
Once you reach the kind of numerical nirvana everything becomes crystal clear and peacefull .
Lately i have been using internet as a giant cern like accelerometer to input billions of data , watch them collide and interpret datas with my beloved 8 years old data center named asus A6JC centrino duo.
Anyway lately i have been monitiring a clear correlation between quantum fields and the average american sheeple ability to love it's neighboors ! THe correlation is quite mesmerizing and you are a gifted test subject !
I have been noticing that all the number add up in a mysterious way, Life=Love²!! But their is also a darker correlation between the IQ of the average american , it's unbelievly low, something even angstoms cant picture !
I might submit your case to harvard or berkeley to do some testing and analyse your results to obtain a nice conclusion and publish in nature or rolling stones !
You will be touched by photons but do not worry they are harmless and youwill be given an oreo when you perform well on the cognitivetest like calulating the precise result to the decimalof 1 + 1 = ?? or you bring back the ball ( Yeah it's hard butwe will go really progressive )
I know you are an hardcore believer in our founding fathers but that'snot the way they intended us to master freedom.
As a crazy modern Esculape and prometheus i can tell you i have seen some crazy shit on the battlefield.Smell of napalm fulling your nostrils , bullets flying across every fucking direction, dead and mutilated people agonising on the ground , blood and guts spilled everywhere, begging for a morphine shot and while murmuring their last words asking you to tell their mother they loved her !
Great goddess gaia and pachamama !
So don't fucking argue with me on how to serve our bright etendard of freedom and constitution !
If you want to serve yours with honor and absolute devotion, just go on the porch watch poetically our glorious star sprangled banner , light up a marlboro like a true cowboy and just meditate !
funny! like it.
let me take a wild guess, you speak french?
the problem with your quite apt suggestion, is that there are limited public health services for treating mental illness in the united states.
so i encourage any mental health practitioners who read ZH to please do some pro bono work for our american brothers and sisters.
it will pay dividends in the long run for the human race.
Man thanks for your support ! It's kind of the jungle here ! But lion king always wins !
I cant tell you how many fucking languages i can speak . I'm like kerby , pink , i fly around and eats crazy horse shit .
I hope on the trading floors of the world people are dropping their bloomberg terminal, lokking at their bro on the floors , start humming wolf street style , Hum hum hum ha, heil to love !come one with me and again. Quityour stincky job ,base jump from the last floor,say fuck to your greedy manager and leave to an infinite road trip !
Take careguys and don't flash crash the whole shit yet until we repair it !
Enjoy !
Dorelei said:
"But i Know a very good indian shaman in a reserve which have amazing result in evolving stincky coakroaches ! He can teach them how to fully communicate and dream peacefully."
WOW, may I have some of what you are smoking?!?! That must be some seriously GREAT SHIT *_*
The Third Amendment (Amendment III) to the United States Constitution places restrictions on the quartering of soldiers in private homes without the owner's consent, forbidding the practice in peacetime.
What if the cop or soldiers helps himself to a beer in the fridge while you're not home? What if you are home, and he takes it anyway without your permission because he feels entitled to it? Do you see where this goes?
I forgot about the perpetual war on terror. It isn't peacetime because the Queen says so.
The NSA breaks BOR number III by installing malware on your neighbor's laptop to electronically attack you. The police have been breaking the IIIrd by kicking people out of their houses and using them as a operating base during SWAT operations. The IIIrd is toast too already.
Police Departments got tired of locking down entire cities so they waited for the SCOTUS to rape the constitution to bail them out.
So who are the so-called "activist" judges and who are "strict" conservatives?
Brough to you By Obama: "gotta respect the Bill of Rights" Kagan and Sotomayor
Brough to you by Bush, Cheney, and the GOP: "cops don't need no stinkin' search warrant" Alito and Roberts.
Very soon there will be a decision that "the police do not need to have no stinking reason to kill your ass." 'Casue they're the PO-LICE! and you live in the PO-LICE state!
Re: Alito and Roberts.
Bunch of goddamn liberals that never worked a goddamn day in their goddamn lives.
LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, YA GODDAMN PINKOS!!
Looks like Roberts & Alito are Neoconservative Zionists, or have at least allied themselves in that camp.
Well, they sure as hell ain't a bunch of criminal-lovin ACLU pinko hippy commies that hates everything this goddamn country used to stand for, that's for goddamn sure. What happened to REAL conservatives that loved the cops, and the troops who are defending this great-n-glorious nation from eco-trrrsss and other criminals that want to destroy our freedoms!
huh??
Kagan says the Constitution empowers .gov to order you to buy broccoli {although it would be a"silly" law}.
I do not believe she has read the document.
It is unlikely she can read.
Im glad Im in my 50's. The way things are going i'll be happy to check out in 30 years. Heaven help the teenagers today, they are so fucked. The sad thing is , they dont even know it.
Did you hear about the Queen's My Brother's Keeper program for male blacks and hispanics only? It looks like the Queen is building her own private army of loyal Brown Shirts to protect the regime. I hope some of the white men in the military and law enforcement are awake, or waking up?
Amen sleepless, though don't you think 30yrs is a bitt optomistic? I mean, with the ever speeding change and all.
;)
Hey forward,
Im shooting for 80 right now. If something comes up before that, well i'll just have to change what i am shoottin at and for!
Please come and try to search my home without a warrant, PUSSIES!
This has to be the stupidest decision in court history.
Get ready for all the goons dressing up in rent a cop uniforms and breaking into peoples houses , raping and pillaging.
Warrants are there for a reason, to protect citizens from
-Thug cops
-Thugs pretending to be cops
-Governments intruding on privacy
and come on, who doesn't have atleast one illegal object in their house???? seriously???? your fucking toaster is probably illegal in some states.
The entire point of privacy is so that you can have your illegal stuff without it being stollen by cops who want to put it in their house.
All we need is a bunch of thug cops ransaking peoples homes stealing shit . . . genius . . .
If there is no threat of harm (IE someone screaming for their life in an apartment) no one should have the right to enter someones home without a court order or consent of the owner, fuck what this circus court says.
This has to be the stupidest decision in court history.
Says a guy {or girl} who is plainly not very familiar with court history...
7 greenies though, eh?
Jeeezus.
Your right, I should of edited to make it "one of the stupidest court decisions in court history".
It really is time for every One to get educated with their rigths, knowing the difference between Person and Human.
Know your Strawman,
Oh and if you think this is BS, that's ok, you have another 6 to 1 year of work to grasp all Lawful concepts. And if you're out of LawSchool, and still think it's BS, then congratulation you got yourself a Parrot Diploma. One simple example : DMT is a molecule, that you can't hold, make, consume or whatever.
But every time we fall asleep, the human body does create DMT... so every night you're illegal?
Anyhow,
Re: so every night you're illegal?
You must be one of the criminal-lovin commie aclu members that hates Merica, and the troops.
I hate ignorance, that's it.
You actually think Peeping Toms delete after five years?
The State is announcing its intent to go to the extreme. So now, everyone has a decision to make as to whether or not they will be willing to do so, also.
Those who waver or vacillate at decision-time will become the first victims, wondering from the inside of their taxpayer-provided cage, "how did this ever happen to me?"
Zero-sum game. Make your decisions, now, and plan accordingly.
God help us all.
Fernandez was spotted by police, and said, “Get out. I know my rights. You can’t come in.” Yet police arrested him on charges of domestic violence. Later, once Fernandez was out of the home, police asked Rojas for permission to conduct a search, which yielded evidence implicating Fernandez in the robbery.
Prior to Randolph and Fernandez, the Court ruled in the 1974 case United States v. Matlock that any one of the co-tenants in a home can consent to a police search of the premises.
I wouldn't get all freaked out about this. This appears to be a clarification of "probable cause", which clearly the police knew Fernandez was a suspect and apparantly expands the time-frame to "sometime later" to exercise a "probable cause" search. Evidently Rosas was a co-tenant, and thereby authorized to give permission to search (probably because she doesn't like being beat up and was weighing her options); and certainly was within her right to decline the policmen's request. And look on the bright side, one less dirtbag on the street.
Now IF (BIG, BIG "IF"), the cops came back and searched the house with no permission from co-tenents and no search warrant, all evidence would have still been thrown out of court.
Sure hope they have the funds to increase the size of the State(s) police department's to make this a reality?
Or maybe the States will simply rip up the 10th completely and willingly step aside on this now that the Supreme Court has spoken and let the FBI, DIA and DHS do all the work for them?!!! They trade in the state seal they wear on their unifrom and become Federal law enforcement without quitting?! May sell my soul in the process but at least I'll still have a paycheck!!!
Can't have everyone in your Country pay enough taxes to support Federal, State and Local police and at the same time help Secretary of State Kerry find enough loose change in the back of every American couch to build more military bases, ships and overthrow governments and start moar wars -that's a given.
If I say the guys in D.C. are insane it goes without saying -but so are we to have allowed it to fester this god damn long!
Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
William S. Burroughs
I told you. They all know that there is no US Constitution and no law other than what they say the law is. The "United States" was Usurped by the installation of British born subject Hussein Obama(born of a British subject father), who is not a natural born Citizen (born in the US of 2 US Citizen parents-- See Minor v. Happersett, 88 US 162, 167 (1874)). If the executor of the laws is not a legal entity then there is no "law".
The only way back is to first Yank that Domestic enemy sitting in the White House out, and give all of Congress the appropriate penalty for allowing him there
And they didn't even need a false flag ...
Well said. That is when you know you're truly finished.
Who knew Alito was a sleeper cell Neoconservative? We knew about Roberts.
As if a "warrant" makes it all holy. A judge's signature makes it ok? You know what a judge is? A judge is a lawyer. A lying, bullshitting lawyer.
I don't care what liar signs what paper.
They needed a way to get people onto the trains leaving for the FEMA camps...Otherwise no one would open their doors.
Scalia's got that covered.
Much ado about nothing. Probable Cause is as old as the hills, so to speak.
With Cause, they can come/break in. W/o Probable Cause, they still need a Warrant.
E.g. It worked for Jesse Pinkman and Walter White, when a DEA Agent (Walt's brother-in-law) tried to break into Jesse's RV.
MORAL: Don't give them Probable Cause!
p.s. I actually know of a guy who has a sign on his front door that says: "We do NOT answer the door to Law Enforcement Agencies (LEAs), unless they have a valid Search Warrant. Have a nice day."
They also have a No Trespassing sign, and a No Soliciting sign. Clearly these people are libertarians with SERIOUS privacy tastes.
I'm going to get one of them signs when I buy my first house. It screams "preemptive countermeasure" to the nosey state.
This came out of Douchebag Breyers multiple home invasions, where his dumb ass got robbed.