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Russian Military Choppers Arrive In The Crimea
Naval blockade, check. APCs and military vehicles rolling into the Crimean, check. Mysterious gunmen taking over the parliament and airports, check. And now: Russian military helicopters, which as the clip below shows were sighted on their way to Belbek airport in Sevastopol.
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Barry must be going through boxes of diapers these days.
FUCK YOU BARRY YOU FUCKING COWARD!!!!
@Glaucon
Ahh, the Hind. Been making those since the 60s.
Stallone flew one in Rambo III, I think.
The Hind is an oldie but a goodie. Not very sophisticated, and would probably get fucked up three ways to Sunday by an Apache. But it is very good at what it is built to do: Own the ground it surveys.
And Ukraine has nothing to combat it with, save the occasional man-portable, shoulder-fired SAM.
The Apache has no lift capability and only 2 seats (there's another MiL helicopter/app for that...)
A better comp would a Sikorsky CH-53, which is also still in use and can provide both lift and firepower, and was also introduced in the mid 1960's.
It's impossible to discern the exact variant(s), and hence their age and sophistication, by a low resolution YouTube video at a distance.
The 53 is a bit more modern than that. The Navy's MH-53E (seen in my avatar) was made in the mid-eighties. When I was flying them ten years ago, these birds were getting tired; and they badly need replacement today. I hope Sikorski's CH-53K is a success. They did a top-to-bottom redesign - dry polymer rotor head, fly-by-wire, wider cabin, new more efficient rotor blades.
But it's not a gunship. We can strap some .50 cals on the doors & windows. That's about it.
Yeah, it's a low-res video. But one may assume they're the MI-24 variants, rather than the export -25 and -35s. Probably have updated av/comm setups.
Thanks for the details. None of my friends will buy American unless the US is paying, which takes out some of the headaches of haggling and negotiating over details, unlike with the Russians, Ukrainians, Euros, or Wankers.
What are the Americans using if they have to insert men and materials, with some minimal firepower? Or are the few US taxdollars I still pay to Uncle Sam being used to buy multiple helicopters where one will suffice?
We'd use -53s, with some Cobra gunship escorts. The problem with aircraft is that they're very nearly REQUIRED to specialize. Making a helo that does both assault AND personnel delivery means compromises to both. The -53 might not have much armor or weaponry, but it can transport 55 armed Marines and all their gear. Or externally lift an artillery piece or Humvee.
Everyone is getting their shit in a knot.
Russian troops have been there for decades. Plus some of the hardware people have been seeing is now just coming back from Socchi.
Then why all the bluster from the US/EU telling Russia to back off?
It's red meat for the sheeple, provided by a dishonest media.
The sheeple are oblivious or don't care...
It's only red meat for the Hedgetards here...
And even if they were moving in gear, it just might be their way of saying no matter what the Ukraininan government is going to look like the Russian navy is not going anywhere - or in other words the lease can't be one-sidedly terminated.
More military manoeuvres in Ukraine!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZlcG4_Flc&list=UU-Y8tHCwNCHYzGL8iw5IOXA&feature=c4-overview
They must be stopping for tea before peacefully heading on their way home.
No proxy wars ignited by western arrogance here. No sireee, move along.
Obama: "Quick, tell Miley Cyrus to tweet a picture of her furburger. The sheep must remain distracted. Wow, this foreign policy stuff is tricky....."
Russia walks its talk, not ike others who talk shit and then cry..
hope the Ukrainians paid attention to how Afghanistan did it.
This is a fight Russia is going to lose.
Think about it, Russia vs US/EURO. Where is the news about the western movements?
Smells like an info black out to me?
How the hell are these videos able to leak to youtube?
Don't you think that the russains (assuming they have the capability) would take down the videos?
Putin in a master strategist, hes sending a message, but the powers that be are out for blood.
Try not to flame me to hard hahah
This is a fight that everyone that isn't still in their pajamas snorting coke while sitting n a 10,000 pound solid gold chair throwing their dog 50lb lobster claws for breakfast is going to lose.
And yes.......you have to meet all 4 of those requirements not just the first one or two.
You can be sure that Western powers already have this info irrespective of whether this (convenient-to-Putin) video clip hit YouTube or not.
It's not clear what you mean by "Euro". Do you mean endless speeches of blather from Barroso??
I'm sure that would frighten everybody ;-)
I meant EU of course,
now
Ahh letsa makea pizzaa !! Fora mya experienceaa Uniteded Stateses is the BACONNA ofa libertiiaia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOJVyWWSsT0
HA-HA...bunga bunga speaks English. Whadda you know! :-)
EU/NATO will never win the hearts and minds of Crimeans. Forget it.
What makes you think they even want to?
The fact that for decades they have been trying to conquer every territory that is not under their control already and that's a lot harder to do when the local population is well-organised, well-armed and well-informed.
Remind us of the recent EU conquests....
Libya
Can you name the EU stooge in charge?
Just look at all the EU stooges in Charge in Romania, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Serbia, Czech, Slovak, Poland and so on. That enough stooges for you Mr Stooge?
where is al queda when you really need them.... i mean NATO... i mean the UN.... i mean the Boy Scouts...
OBAMA GOT HIS FREE SAMPLE OF DIAPERS FROM TONY SIRAGUSA and is no longer leaking..... he pees at 5"30 ... shits at 7am... and wakes up at noon, then plays some golf and changes his diaper at 3pm... media says he smells like a rose. Time for another vacation... this is what you get when you got a community organizer... who never organized nada
Maybe the line should be a different color. Let's draw a black line.
If Obama had his druthers, he'd probably pick mauve. Or fuschia.
Can they be flying to the Russian naval base, which is not far away from the Belbek airpot? I flew into the Belbek airport this past summer. It was mostly a military airport, with a tiny civilian air terminal that does not even have a baggage carousel. The situation does not seem to be bad enough at least for now for Russia to land choppers where Ukrainian military airplanes and choppers are.
Russian military intervention in any part of Ukraine is not going to happen in near or not so near future.
People believe what they want to believe, sometimes they even see what they believe, even when it's not there.
I remember how local Ukrainian media reported how Yanukovich's plane landed somewhere in the middle east, right after he had fled his residence. What they actually saw on flightradar24 was private austrian A-319, which took off from Zhuliany (IEV) airport and landed in the middle east (can't remember the city's name). What they did not bother to check is how flightradar24 works, they probably have no idea that ADS-B transponders are not installed on all aircraft, and even when installed, can be probably turned off. But hey, sensational news sells clicks, no one bothers to check twice, or to question the logic behind the news. It turned out that he was in Harkiv on that day.
Russia isn't going to back down to "strong wording" from the West. This is not Syria, this is much closer to its borders. In fact, Crimea was fought over many times before and Russia has been always involved.
The States and EU can't even provide a coherent aid package to those ragtags in Kiev. Watch this evolve. It will be looked upon as Russia reasserting its interests in the region. If you think US and EU are going to punish Russia in any way for taking back Crimea - financially or militarily (lol) - you are deluding yourself.
I can't wait 'til the Russian choppers arrive here in the US, to help with all the civil unrest.
I just can't wait. Seriously.
I'm looking forward to it.
And we have absolutely no doubt you really feel that way...
Why don't you move to Russia and get a leg up on your dream...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04
What's the matter, can't you articulate in words what you want me or anyone else to watch?
That is what is referred to as being intellectually lazy....
The snipers will take on a new assignment: Damage the gas pipelines. Russia will step in to
"insure the integrity of Ukraine. Ukraine gets partitioned Georgia style. Crimea and much Eastern
Ukraine become more independent from Kiev.
Europe continues to get gas, but pays a new risk premium. Russian wins a new round.
What's next, Russians back in Afghanistan after we leave?
Explain to us how Russia wins a new round?
The "Chess Player" is at least one tempo behind...
If he does not play this very carefully he will have an Intifada type uprising in the Western Ukraine. Ask Israel how much fun that is...
And your outcome doesn't change which way the pipelines point. And those pipelines will be pointing that way for many years to come...
And all BHO has to do is sit back and watch...
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I am merely pointing out the obvious, hardly partisan rhetoric like some here...
Channeling Boris Alatovkrap:
Is impressive wiz wot high tech eqvipment air condition system come ze car in ze video (fan on dashboard). If zis meny technological improvement not scare Vlad ve vill have no choice but to bring out ze smelly little green cristmas tree hanging from rear view mirror.
It should be this link, not the one that's showing (more military manoeuvres in Ukraine).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DZP3fYurqU
Comrade Snowden will be Head of KGB in Crimea.
And Comrade Putin is the most Democratic Leader in Soviet errr Russian History
So far, the Russian Federation is just increasing the security/military assets at and around its naval base. Russia is highly unlikely to invade Crimea or the eastern provinces. It's playing a waiting game.
Crimea's parlament {they are autonomous and probably have roughly the home rule power Scotland does} is voting on MOAR autonomy I believe in a few days. Russia movements are likely a strong signal to Kiev, as well as to NATO, not to roll tanks into Crimea or "punish separatists" as some of the more openly fascist Kievan Putsch characters have already threatened.
The notion Russia would invade and try to annex Ukraine was and is crazy talk. Crimea is a different story, but they are most concerned with the base, which they will never give up. As to Ukraine, they probably want some sort of vote to happen before anything else.. maybe a couple votes.
If Crimea splits off there may be a desire for further splitting from the Tatars. And if so, the Tatars should get their own state if they wish. The Tatar element could well bring in the car bombings and fuckery we've see elsewhere in the Muslim world, funded, as is so often the case, by US clandestine agencies and their subcontractors.
Too bad the religions of the world are too busy with other shit to launch a push for peaceful and democratic resolution.
Yeah, I don't see that they're doing much more than beefing up their own perimeter. They'll wait to see if Yatseniuk/Tymoshenko are really in charge or not, and respond accordingly. In the meantime, they're not going to let the fascist paramilitaries gain the high ground in the areas they've long considered non-negotiable. I would be very surprised if Russia did anything of an aggressive nature in the short term. They can make their installations pretty near impregnable without exceeding the "normal rotation of troops and gear back from Sochi" explanation.
Crimeans moved quickly to eject the traitors in their midst.
The referendum is on May 25th, although anything could change in those 3 months.
The Russian Federation doesn't need to act aggressively over Crimea. The Crimeans themselves will staunchly defend their autonomy from the usual infiltration and subversion, and call upon assistance from their brothers next door if they need it.
Looks like they are Hind E attack choppers.
It's great how all Russians/Eastern Europeans have dash-cams. If we did that in the US our cops would completely flip out. Here in Minneapolis we have a hard core of about 3% of our cops who are completely out-of-control and cost the city millions per year in payouts when they decide to stomp the crap out of somebody who isn't too screwed up to hire an attorney and push the matter. There's a suggestion floating around that the cops wear body cameras to record all their interactions with us untermenschen, and of course the police union is against it. Heck, whenever there are protests here the cops first attack everyone with a camera and smash it. That's getting tough to do since now everyone has smartphones. No doubt soon enough every cop will have some sort of phone jamming device.
LOL, jamming a camera? They would need EMP grenades
Shhhh...Don't give 'em any ideas.
Every so often Counterpunch hits the bull's eye. They're about the only place that will publish one of the only actual Conservatives still around, Paul Craig Roberts. Of course in our current political farce where words mean the opposite of their definitions, Dr. Roberts is now a raving Commie because he doesn't believe in the merger of corporate and state power, where insiders rig markets to privatize all gains, and the state bails out all losses. CP also posts the output of some of the only remaining war correspondents (no, I don't consider Geraldo Rivera to be a war correspondent).
Good post.
Don't worry. Our esteemed Secretary of State assured us yesterday the Russian miliary moves are just part of a previously planned and unrelated invasion exercise. http://world.time.com/2014/02/27/ukraine-russia-crimea-kerry/
Just like our pre-planned exercises off the coast near Syria, or off the coast of North Korea, or in the Outhouse China Sea, etc, etc
I guess the DC US better get "pay-day" loan quick from China so as to be able to challenge this. LOL
"It's all over but the poverty."
Any rock throwing demonstrators or protesters in the Crimea will not be met with scared policemen hiding behind their shields. Instead, they will get clawed by the Russian bear. Once Putin has his troops in place, the West will be helpless to act without risking an all out shooting war - held at the other guy's shooting range...
Apocalypse Now!
Russian will never invade Crimea...
It's army will just be there, ready to prevent any repression, when the crimean independantists will challenge Kiev before deciding to join Russia. Just because these independantists should not be threatened by Ukrainian's army, you see.
So it's basically a done deal for Russia : there will be a referendum, independance (or at least very extended autonomy) will win (trust Putin on that point), and the central government in Kiev will have either to let go, or to attack Russian's military.
This is de facto the current central government in Kiev. It's a matter of time till the neo-nazi intimidation of politicians and regular citizens will get completely out of control and the Ukrainians will be begging for military intervention. Any intervention, be if from the West or Russia.
Red Dawn for Eurokraine, Remember WWII was less than 70 years ago, yet we still are complacent thinking the world is any safer, its not, in fact globalization and the degredation of developed economies, the arbitrage of labor and resources and the control of a very few over the many, means we are closer to the canary in the coal mine then most people think. This is nothing more than control of resources and Russia is not going to sit back and watch the Chinese and Americans dictate policy. Its ok though who cares stocks go up regardless so make money and quit complaining. Remember $65Bln a month thats 12 zeros every month going straight to the dealers, going straight into the equity market , so what is the problem, a lot of people me included can complain all we want about how shitty the economy is, but that does not matter, the economy does not matter, imagine you had a company that generates $65bln a month in profits with ZERO production and labor costs, that is the equity markets via the FED transfer mechanism, so in fact the fundamentals make perfect sense and since the US is the safe haven, US markets should rise by $65Bln a month give or take a bit more with leverage and any down move is the weaker hand that needs some money for some other asset purchase, So when the fundamentalists say that this aint making any sense, than just ask them how they would disperse $65bln a month...
When you said 'choppers' - plural - you weren't kidding. That looks like a fucking outtake from 'Apocalypse Now!'
When you said 'choppers' - plural - you weren't kidding. That looks like a fucking outtake from 'Apocalypse Now!'
When you said 'choppers' - plural - you weren't kidding. That looks like a fucking outtake from 'Apocalypse Now!'
The Rogue (US) Military, the proud and righteous corporate army, force feeding its form of "freedom and democracy" around the globe, can't spread itself too thin by getting involved in war games over there, it's got a major offensive brewing back home in the sTATES.
Armed Citizens and a Fascist Police State cannot coexist.
Let me assure you: "If you like your airports...you can keep your airports." Oh, um...uuhhh...
By the way, nothing a few stinger missles can't handle. They should ask the Taliban for some of the ones we left them back in the 80's.
Sure and since the majority of the people in Crimea are Russians, if they see you with one of those stingers, you can be sure you would be shot dead on the spot. Helicopters have their role in the modern battlefield even with stingers around.
"While dogs bark, the caravan passes by." Turkish proverb.
I don't think the Russian military cares how much noise the dogs (those noisy bitchez) make, those choppers look like they are going about their business. By the time the dogs finish barking the caravan will have moved on to its destination. Done.
If I can't OWN a gun, I will not CARRY one for this government.
Let them start shooting.
"Carnival in Crimea" by Pepe Escobar (2/28/14)
http://atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-05-280214.html
and, some filler... 'Sevatopol (Crimean?), Ukraine' by Phillip P. Pan (10/6/09) http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-166448.html
"Hagel Hails Poland as Important Strategic Ally" 1/30/14 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2014/01/mil-140130-afps03.htm
Note: the USSA via AFRICOM has been traing Libyan Nat'l`s in Poland (~500 at a time) since 2010 to fight insurgent rebels. Ps. the same rebel insurgents England, France, and lead from behind Obama put in charge? In fact, probably the same gang of al`CIA-qeada thugs the lead-from behind in Syria Lebanon,...
Lastly... some geography for PAKAF-- ussa bottomless rabbit-hole <$$$>...
"Map of Kazakstan (Turmenistan) and Neighbouring Area" http://www.geocities.ws/kazakland/kazak1.gif
thankyou Tyler
oh, jmo
What's the fallout map for Ukrainian targets? This is whats next on the roadmap to global dictatorship.
out of security council meeting tonight - without a request from Crimean authorities Russia opposes any internationally imposed mediation to settle tensions there
http://rt.com/news/un-ukraine-russia-agreements-278/
My expectation is that Yeltsin will split off- the heart of Russian culture- the Eastern Ukraine and then starve the west (and Europe) with energy and divert what he can east to China.