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Obama And Putin Held Phone Conversation
Just out from the Kremlin:
On the initiative of the US, a phone call took place between Vladimir Putin and the President of the US, Barack Obama.
Under discussion were the various aspects of the extraordinary situation in Ukraine.
In response to the concern expressed by Barack Obama regarding the possible use of Russian armed forces in the Ukraine, Vladimir Putin drew attention attention to the provocative, criminal acts of the ultranationalist elements, in effect encouraged by the present authorities in Kiev.
The Russian president stressed the existence of real threats to the lives and well-being of Russian citizens and numerous compatriots located in the Ukraine. Vladimir Putin underscored that should the violence spread further to the eastern regions of the Ukraine and the Crimea, Russia reserves the right to protect its interests and the Russian-speaking population living there.
Then Putin told Hollande largely the same thing.
Here is how this same conversation looked like from the perspective of the US. Via Reuters:
U.S. President Barack Obama told Russian President Vladimir Putin that Russia had committed a clear violation of Ukrainian sovereignty by sending forces into Crimea and warned of consequences.
"The United States condemns Russia's military intervention into Ukrainian territory," the White House said in a statement outlining what was discussed in a 90-minute phone call between Obama and Putin.a
And in other news, the US president may or may not be present when needed.
Obama did not attend the WH national security meeting on Ukraine but was briefed by natsec adviser Susan Rice.
— Steve Holland (@steveholland1) March 1, 2014
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Obama is just one of the ladies in that picture from the View. Incredible that anyone could take him serious. Just shows how contemptuous our masters are of us to put that thing in charge of our country.
CalibratedConfidence, I appreciate what you're saying with those pictures, but it's not Obama's fault that he's castrated. That's just the result of Western culture these past few decades. Would anyone who looks macho be elected these days???
While I understand your point I would argue that Leftist culture has given us Obummer.
Some us just want to be left alone to enjoy our Life, Liberty and our Pursuit of Happiness.
DaddyO
..and gold bitchez.
The only real man in that picture from The View is Whoopie.
"And in other news, the US president may or may not be present when needed."
Late to play Balls are ya?
Putin was overheard saying:"Fuck the EU and fuck you too".
So what will it be, Amerikano's? Stay out of other peoples business, countries, together with a Pussy President?
Or go all in, again and again, bringing democracy? Make up your fucking mind, or shut the fuck up.
Considering that every gov't position of any importance is held by the Cold War generation...with all the anti-Russian hate complex baggage that comes with it...
Having said that, it'll be a tough sell to convince Americans to die for Ukraine. Sure, there's plenty of idiots conditioned to say "yessir" but Syria was on a silver platter after the State Dept manipulated the "chemical attacks" and STILL the American public said "NO"...
I was born in '86, so anti-Russian propaganda has no real effect nor meaning to me. There's no real rallying cry for my generation towards Ukraine, Iran or Syria since the 9/11 high has been exhausted, and now all the twenty-somethings are still addicted to "defending freedom" or on the streets suffering withdrawl...the effects of which can be seen in the daily obituary in your local paper.
Despite my pessimism, I'm HUGELY optomistic towards the future. Syria was an amazing victory, and non-intervention in Ukraine will be even sweeter.
"STILL the American public said "NO""
Actually the White House didn't give a fuck about what the American public said. The British parliament said "NO" which ended the scam. Only then did Obama say he would ask Congress for a vote, knowing the US House would say NO.
That they don't care for public opinion is a given...but they've applied force at the expense of power one to many times in the past decade...and recent corruption and surveillance charges have only further destroyed their credibility and thus power, and with that their ability to provide force to reach a desired outcome.
Putin: "Yes, Mr. Obama. What is I do for you?"
Obama: "Umm...Mr. Putin...Umm...I think...we should stop....and think about...what is going on...in Ukraine. Things...have gotten...a...little out of hand. Hold on...my iPad is stuck..."
Putin: "Mr. Obama, is best you leave Ukraine to us. This is twice in last year I..how you say...hand you your ass on world stage. I must go now. I have debriefing with Ukraine Army Commander as he state that most of Army has raised flag of Mother Russia."
Obama: "OK. This was...a good talk...I got a Tee Time...to catch."
I think the phone call probably went more like this:
Barecrack: Hey Vlad, waaasssuuuup...
Putin: FUCK OFF
Obama to Putin in that conversation...
Bu, BBu, BBBuu, Buu, Buuu, "But"...
Putin to President Remus...
"Shhhhhhhhhh"...
Ah, the hypocrisy Olympics ...
An event that the USA may win!
Anyone else reloading ZH every 30 seconds to keep on top of things?
moving quickly
very fluid
clicking fast
must keep up
multiple threads
BREAKING: US Sixth Fleet moves toward Crimea, NATO troops land in Western Ukraine
True or False (lunch or launch ?)
I don't know, but that website is pretty wack looking.
I wish Yahoo had a Mushroom cloud for it's most recent Ukraine post. That sure as shit would scare some blue hairs in Indiana.
Sixth Fleet? Landing at Lyiv? ...seems Russian intelligence underestimated Nato after all....
they just don't want to miss the show - their puppet regime in Kiev is about to be spanked - so, they are taking over the front row seats, while the Klitch and the Yatz are fetched to bring the pop-corn (and the "Timosh"?) is called in to do the belly dance
the original site is Moscow Komsomoletz http:\\www.mk.ru
and yeah most likely it is true
Just checked your link and there's no word of NATO troops. Quit rumor mongering.
True or False (lunch or launch ?)
Anything's possible, but I seriously doubt it.
It would be more believable if they could even get the names and types of the two US naval vessels currently in the Black Sea correct.
Amateur hour regardless.
Once again, the outcome here was obvious to anyone with a map, some historical perspective, fundamental knowedge of national interests and spheres of infulence, and awareness of current events.
America no longer has the will to use it's big stick, and the people are tired. It is only a small group of globalists egging this on, but just as in Syria, it is a very stupid move.
Someone said in a previous post something to the effect that this is the rusult of the hapless MTV generation coming to power. I fear the accuracy of this statement.
The globalists are now in the cross-hairs.
Don't Fear the Reaper- Blue Oyster Cult
Great quote. Next up the Instagram generation
The translation of the conversation from the Russian was: "Fuck you Obozo."
TOTUS wanted to show off his new set of "erasable" Crayola Crayons ®...
In a new move, Obama displayed erasable black felt markers that he will use on a blackboard in the future.
"SharpO" ©
LMAO!
Oh yeah Neo nazi s took over Ukraine that's it. Vlads going to destabilize Eastern Europe because he's a paranoid dictator. If you think what happened in Ukraine was because Obama willed it you're retarded. Vlad is not a rock star he's ex KGB. Vlad stay out of western Ukraine or you're risking an escalation that will draw the west in. You're fucking up by sending in troops. I've heard the Ukrainian nationalists called zionists Neo nazi US backed jeebus admit none of us know wtf except they hate god damn communists and Russians and probably for good reason. Russian escalation is going to have catastrophic consequences
Totally agree with you, but the problem is that Obama has been proven a bush league strategist when it comes to pretty much everything but greatly in foreign policy. If you're Putin and know you're up against an utter buffoon, why not take a shot at annexing the whole country?
I'll tell you why. He is then bogged down in the Caucacus and in the Ukraine. Ukranians hate the Russians, and a lot of trade must pass through to and from Russia to deal with another assymettric war on their border. He'll consolidate power in the east, have them appeal for self rule, and he will support that. Ukraine loses its eastern region. Both get what they want.
Russia is not going to tolerate being surrounded. So the Orange Revolution failed, and now we get 2.0. ENter the Ukrainan right wing.
Are the war mongers salivating? You bet. Will they go to war for Ukraine? Nope.
I also don't think Putin will tolerate a broken up Ukraine.
it hurts me to see putin be so hate full to gays and lesbians.
if only he would allow analism and man on man church weddings we could all live in peace.
if only he would allow british and american gays to adopt russian babies we could be his friend.
tony blair is probably correct this russki is indeed a mad dog.
if he is not careful elton john and bono might refuse to concert in moscow.
You kno everyone on here, the funny thing is the people living there do not think of this as a "russian invasion" but see it as a liberation from the illegitmatite western sponsored fascist rule... heres some links :
http://rt.com/news/donetsk-kharkov-ukraine-protest-365/
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-navy-flaghsip-protest-389/
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-russia-asylum-request-386/
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-donetsk-protests-referendum-383/
Sashko
As seen on RT!
Step Right Up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdqh0GsXMII&feature=kp
Shash:
Which is why there will be no hot war.
I've repeatedly stressed that 2014 Ukraine = 1956 Hungary as far as the Western Military / Industrial / Orwellian / Oligarch Complex (MIO2C) living up to the promises - implicit and explicit - made to the competing group of oligarchs who booted out Y & Co. using the neo-Nazis and lunatic ultra-right wing fringe.
Obastard's stiffing the NSC meeting may actually be that he wasn't invited by the "serious people," and in truth he is now relegated to nothing more than a TOTUS reader.
Russia has to protect the entirety of its pipelines - they pump Nat gas out, and Euros in. That reality is immutable, and the only real reason Putin might go all in.
If he truly believes this is a grab by the western MIO2C to steal the pipelines, he has no alternative since they truly represent a life or death issue of Russia's economic survival - the absolute criteria to decide yes or no for war.
The western MIO2C is "the madman" in all this. If Russia is faced with economic obliteration, MAD is no longer mad, since it's "death to Russia" down either course.
At that point, you may as well obliterate everyone, and bring the temple down on the Philistines as well as yourself.
As I previously posted, welcome to the End Times.
-30-
Obama: The USA will have to repond at some point
Putin: I know you can print dollars but can you print enough soldiers?
Obama: We already have people on the ground in the Ukraine.
Putin: Do you want us to put them in the ground for you?
Obama: How about we let you do what you want in the Ukraine and you let us do what we want in Syrua?
Putin: with your track record in Iraq, Afghanista, Lybia and the USA, I am not sure we can allow that on humanitarian grounds.
Obama: How about a game of golf?
Putin: No problem, I hear you have plenty of sink holes in the USA.
Any chance VLad has a Birth Certificate from Hawaii?
. . . or and SSN from Connecticut.
Per CT. I loathe the Putin bootlickers but you can be damn sure he wouldn't register his legally owned rifles with Mike Lawlor & Lieutenant "I am the master" Paul Vance.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4fa_1393558732
Holy Crap....do you think barry and vlad are brothers?
Obama: "Vladimir, this is Barrack."
Putin: "Ah...Mr. Obama, how is the weather in Washington D.C.?"
Obama: "We need to talk about Ukraine."
Putin: "The Ukraine is beautiful country."
Obama: "A Russian military intervention is unacceptable to the U.S."
Putin: "Barrack, we already had military bases there, what are you talking about?"
Obama: "There will be costs of a Russian invasion of a sovereign Ukraine."
Putin: "Mr. President, I do not understand your use of 'invasion' and 'sovereign'. There has been a fascist coup of the democratically elected President.
We have soldiers practicing maneuvers in a region where we have bases; we're not flying drones and killing Women and Children in a country we are not at war with, nor are we sending our troops to support Chechen Islamic militants - if we do that you can be upset - and call me back."
Click.
yeah...pretty much. And "see below."
http://osnetdaily.com/2014/03/breaking-us-sixth-fleet-moves-toward-crime...
BREAKING: NATO TROOPS LAND IN WESTERN UKRAINE; US SIXTH FLEET MOVES TOWARDS CRIMEA.
The US Sixth Fleet is not the Black Sea.
It is theoretically possible that the elements of the 6th fleet that are in the Black Sea (USS Mount Witney & USS Taylor- assuming it can actually dock without hitting another sandbar) have moved towards Ukraine, but that is not the same as the 6th Fleet moving or landing.
http://www.c6f.navy.mil/
Wow. If you get a couple of aircraft carriers into the Black Sea is that considered 'fish in a barrel'.....
Chamberlain: we have achieved peace (or something like that)
As President Remus gets "blustry" with the language Wolf Blitzer at CNN puts on his pith helmet ready to do battle in the war of words through provocative spin as always with Russia (inserting foot in mouth) while the U.S. military stays far, far, far away...
"I am convinced that it [decision] will be understood correctly in Ukraine, but I do not rule out that it will be distorted as always by Western mass media which barely understand the processes unfolding in Ukraine both now and before."
Dmitry Peskov
Did Putin make Obama cry?
Obama: If you go any further we in the west will freeze your assets.
Putin: And if YOU go any further we will ask for a percentage of our oil sales to be paid for in gold and silver.
(.) And he'll be laughing his ass off when he says that to President Remus
This is what Barry meant when he said he would be more "flexible" in his second term.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/03/26/Obama-to-Putin-Ill-Surrend...
how do you say "don't fuck with me. i'll fuck you up" in russian. i am sure that was part of the conversation.
ne khren so mnoy . YA poshel na khuy do "
DaddyO
CRAP! The ZH host can't handle Cyrillic...
Hammering away at 200 wpm, a typist is frantically taking dictation from those who run the show and who are listening on speaker phone in the next room, as Barry, speaking into the "red" phone, reads off his telepromter, hooked to the typists keyboard.
All the while, Putin, who is simultaneously shaking his head from side to side and having a laugh with his generals in his war room, telling them, "Who does this psychopathic lying, slimball, bisexual, monkey Bolshevik Mulatto think he is, anyway, a President?".
"Obama did not attend the WH national security meeting on Ukraine but was briefed by natsec adviser Susan Rice."
Copying the political moves of Toronto mayor Rob Ford. Does Obama coach a little league team that we are unaware of?
22.21 We now have the White House read out of that call which lasted 90 minutes:
"President Obama spoke for 90 minutes this afternoon with President Putin of Russia about the situation in Ukraine. President Obama expressed his deep concern over Russia's clear violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity, which is a breach of international law, including Russia’s obligations under the UN Charter, and of its 1997 military basing agreement with Ukraine, and which is inconsistent with the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and the Helsinki Final Act. The United States condemns Russia’s military intervention into Ukrainian territory.
"The United States calls on Russia to de-escalate tensions by withdrawing its forces back to bases in Crimea and to refrain from any interference elsewhere in Ukraine. We have consistently said that we recognize Russia’s deep historic and cultural ties to Ukraine and the need to protect the rights of ethnic Russian and minority populations within Ukraine. The Ukrainian government has made clear its commitment to protect the rights of all Ukrainians and to abide by Ukraine’s international commitments, and we will continue to urge them to do so.
"President Obama told President Putin that, if Russia has concerns about the treatment of ethnic Russian and minority populations in Ukraine, the appropriate way to address them is peacefully through direct engagement with the government of Ukraine and through the dispatch of international observers under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council or the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). As a member of both organizations, Russia would be able to participate. President Obama urged an immediate effort to initiate a dialogue between Russia and the Ukrainian government, with international facilitation, as appropriate. The United States is prepared to participate.
"President Obama made clear that Russia’s continued violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity would negatively impact Russia’s standing in the international community. In the coming hours and days, the United States will urgently consult with allies and partners in the UN Security Council, the North Atlantic Council, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, and with the signatories of the Budapest Memorandum. The United States will suspend upcoming participation in preparatory meetings for the G-8. Going forward, Russia’s continued violation of international law will lead to greater political and economic isolation.
"The people of Ukraine have the right to determine their own future. President Obama has directed his Administration to continue working urgently with international partners to provide support for the Ukrainian government, including urgent technical and financial assistance. Going forward, we will continue consulting closely with allies and partners, the Ukrainian government and the International Monetary Fund, to provide the new government with significant assistance to secure financial stability, to support needed reforms, to allow Ukraine to conduct successful elections, and to support Ukraine as it pursues a democratic future."
After listening for 90 minutes Vlad replied "Fuck you" and hung up.
Putin wasn't listening. If the WH would carefully isolate sounds in the background, they would hear a party going on and Putin getting laid. That sucking sound was not there to symbolize the U.S. going down the drain.
and unlike Obama Putin was getting laid by a hot chick. Meanwhile obie took it up the asspipe from Reggie
Ukraine’s Navy flagship, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate, has reportedly refused to follow orders from Kiev, and come over to Russia’s side and is returning home after taking part in NATO operation in the Gulf of Aden flying the Russian naval flag.
There has been conflicting information on where exactly the vessel is, but a Russian senator has confirmed to Izvestia daily that the frigate defected to the Russian side.
“Ukraine’s Navy flagship the Hetman Sahaidachny has come over to our side today. It has hung out the St Andrew’s flag,” Senator Igor Morozov, a member of the committee on the international affairs, told Izvestia daily.
He said the flagship is on its way back to the Black Sea after drills in the Mediterranean. “The crew has fulfilled the order by the chief commander of Ukraine’s armed forces Viktor Yanukovich,” he added.
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-navy-flaghsip-protest-389/
I'm sure it was a secured line lol
both gay. putin liked titanic boy
They keep on talking about Russia violating Ukraine's sovereignty. Like instigating, financing and supporting a revolution is not a violation of a country's sovereignty.
When we do it it is good. When you do it it is not.
rumsfeld and cheney should see what people act like when they greet invading forces like liberators.
Middle-Game
End-Game
Why the EU and U.S. are a clueless mob, will stay that way and deserve each other.
Does anyone really believe these would be the guys who will start a range war with Russia, when "collectively" they can't find their own rectums and would need a $400 million loan to do study to figure out how to locate one.
Fair point... it did cost the US taxpayer $900MM to fund a ObamaCare website.... that doesn't work. But that's not corruption like Putin and his cronies are guilty of.
You mean corruption like sending in $5 billion from the U.S. and EU to destabilize an elected President who won with foreign observers at the poll watching in 2010 destroying that legitimate government's property, arming "citiziens" with weapons they confiscated from their own government to kill police -then negotiating with that same government to compromise with those individuals for temporary seats in their Parliament and to hold referendums and early elections in that compromise deal only to be overtaken by a "coup"? THen having the President of U.S. call those "protestors" peaceful?
If these are the kind of gentlement you call "legitimate" I hope Putin provides them with a lesson they won't soon forget!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO69-hzYo_A
This move by Putin in the Crimea is primarily all about securing the Russian naval base at Sevastopol.
"On April 27, 2010, Russia and Ukraine ratified the Russian Ukrainian Naval Base for Gas treaty, extending the Russian Navy's lease of the Sevastopol base for 25 years after 2017 (through 2042). The ratification process in the Ukrainian parliament encountered stiff opposition and erupted into a brawl in the parliament chamber. Eventually, the treaty was ratified by a 52% majority vote—236 of 450.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sevastopol#Russian_naval_base_and_ownership...
Note the closeness of the 2010 vote in the Ukrainian parliament (52% majority) and the fact that the debate was so heated there was a brawl on the floor of the Parliament. If that vote were held today it would be defeated.
For Putin this possibility of losing his naval base lease is unacceptable.
Annexing the Crimea would secure this strategic chess piece and the surrounding squares.
Let us be quite clear. If there were no Russian naval base in the Crimea, then there wouldn’t be any Russian occupation of the Crimea.
Putin is committed to securing his naval base at Sevastopol. He won’t back down from this because he sees it as a strategic issue. This is Putin’s ‘red line’ … and it involves a major Russian naval base.
The question is how Western leaders regard this issue.
Is the goal of squeezing the Black Sea fleet out of Sevastopol a ‘red line’ issue for the West?
It would be like the U.S. losing Norfolk/Oceania, San Diego and Jax... To China or Russia.
This about sums it up in dark satire that isn't funny.
To say the U.S. has overplayed it's hand at precisely the worst time possible like they did with Georgia in 2008 is an understatement! Any coincidence of what took place with the banks just a few months after Georgia got it's ass handed to them?
From the very first time I saw her, Nuland made me think of nurse Ratched :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onm5gjgL97Y
Meanwhile the GOP Senators are making all the predictable mouth frothing remarks about NAto and UN Troop supervision of any Russian intervention.
Irreality, as Putin dangles the red herring and waits for EU; aka Merkel to make her call. There is only ONE person who has a vital interest in Russian Gas and therefore holds the TRUMP card in Ukraine; and that is Merkel.
Merkel unlike the US DOES NOT BELIEVE IN MILITARY/NATO solutions but in negotiated geopolitical deals. That is the legacy from Schroeder's presidency of the North slope pipe and all that Ost politik century old German strategy that Merkel as ex-East German appreciates. Apparently, her most admired historical figure is Catherine the Great, Russian Czarina of German origin...
Unfortunately she has to wait for American Russian bluster and stand off to subside; as this is still the world of Yalta in Eastern Europe.
Timochenko will be her card; thats my gut feeeling.
But all that depends on how the US/RUssian stand off now evolves. And we can expect a lot of hard words and sabre rattling and UN decisions and Kerry to Kiev shuttle diplomacy. Just like Syria it will have to face "fait accompli" in the end.
And then, Enter Mutti...
This is between Kissinger/Brzezinski and Putin. There's nothing new, for better or for worse, in US policy since Kissinger was officially Secretary of State. Look at the backgrounds of all the shining stars at State; Nuland and the rest. All connected to those two. And the policy is the same, and it's actually been a smashing success, considering its true aim. Create firey havoc all around the perimeter of Russia and China. Get the official economies under the yoke of the IMF/Western Banks. Get the governments to bleed their subjects white to pay off the West. Gain a monopoly on all the strategic resources, or at least create so much chaos nobody else can access them. We don't have the army, money or political will to actually have an old-fashioned empire, so we'll do it the new-fashioned way; by destroying civil society everywhere and picking up the biggest pieces. Why do you think we always ally ourselves with the most vicious and unreasonable terrorists, like Al-Quaeda and Svoboda/Pravy Sektor and all the rest? Because they'll cause maximum violence and chaos and they'll never settle like reasonable people would.
I don't have the Putin man-crush, but he's only playing the hand Kissinger/Brzezinski have dealt him. Putin knows exactly what he is and isn't willing to take. Western Ukraine as a rump state full of fascist paramilitaries beholden to Western banking interests he migh be willing to accept, as long as he gets Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, the terrain to create impregnable borders, and a way to deal with the influx of refugees as the heirs to Bandera do what they always do. Putin and the Kissinger/Brzezinskin acolytes understand each other.
Keep in mind that both Kissinger and Brzezinski are servents to higher authority.
They are not the owners of the 'assets'. They are servents to the owners. There are owners and then there are those who work for the owners, either directly or indirectly. Someone explained this to me long ago though it took a while for me to understand how it related to Government.
The owners have all the real power.
Do you know who the owners are?
Hey Barry, think we found some Castor Beans in Kiev which could be used to develop WMD so I'm thinkin Imminent Threat. Screw Nato and UN we gotta protect ourselves. We'll look for the WMD afterwards. Our intelligence says it is there.
Oh Ok Vlad, I gotta sound like a bad ass now but after the elections I will have more flexibility.
I'm sure golf club swinging, race and class baiting, community organizing, affirmative action poster child and Jr Senator from Chi Town wagged his pompous mightier and holier than thou democratic finger at all those Eastern Europeans in a very superior and sanctimonious threatening way. Where is his babe Nuland now that all the action is unfolding?
I'm sure golf club swinging, race and class baiting, community organizing, affirmative action poster child and Jr Senator from Chi Town wagged his pompous mightier and holier than thou democratic finger at all those Eastern Europeans in a very superior and sanctimonious threatening way. Where is his babe Nuland now that all the action is unfolding?
What else would u expect from an arrogant narcissistic lying illegal alien kenyan muslim sociopath?
Someone needs to make an "oldschool" telephone with Putin sitting at his Kremlin desk holding Zero's balls in his hands.
The base of the phone would be Putin at his desk, with the receiver/ phone cradle being "zero's" nuts...
If it was good enough for the Brits to invade the Falkland Islands, then it is more so for the Russians to intervene in the Ukraine.
Argentina invaded British Falklands first.
Ukrainians invading Ukraine is not quite the same thing.
NATO has troops?...Where's Waldo and Where's NATO?...
Ring, ring, Ring, ring
Putin: Privet!!
Obama: Hi Mr. Putin. Listen, I have an idea. I’ll send Reggie to work over any concessions we can stroke over. Believe me, Reggie is at your complete disposal. Use him wisely and pound out a good solution.
Putin: The American’s are right, you are a transgender pacifist.
Obama: Let me be clear..[ Phone Click.] Hello, Hello? President Putin?
A referendum on the political status of Crimea will take place on March 30, almost two months earlier than previously planned on May 25.
This could set the stage for a formal declaration of further autonomy or full independence of Crimea and possibly union with Russia. Such a move would not only formalize Russia's influence over Crimea.
This would also complicate any plans by Kiev to seek integration with the European Union due to EU rules on ambiguous borders.
New EU forecasted revenue based income charts become skewed.
Who agreed to the referendum?
Could be the start of a civil war.
Banking bets and Central planning minions to change behavioral habits on a narrow goal to control.
Who the fucks cares about a phone call.
'President Obama consulted with France and Canada's leaders today to discuss the crisis in Ukraine, vowing to work together on an aid package."
If these are the best allies Obummer can come up with it is going to be a band aid package.
im sure that after hearing Obama give one of his NOBEL level speeches, Putin melted and they sang kumbaya together.
if that doesnt work maybe Kerry with his three purple hearts can make Putin sweat.
I doubt Putin is going to stand down while the jackyls steal Ukraine.
Syria’s Chemical Weapons Stockpiles to be Transferred to the Italian Mafia?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/syrias-chemical-weapons-stockpiles-to-be-transferred-to-the-italian-mafia/5369399
Does the disposal of Syria’s chemical weapons by the two selected waste disposal companies, namely Finland’s Ekokem and France’s Veolia require a contractual arrangement (or “agreement”) with Italy’s most powerful criminal syndicate on behalf of the Nobel Peace Prize winning Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW)?
Read down. Its a long saga…
On September 12, last year, Syria’s President al-Assad committed to surrender Syria’s chemical weapons, with the caveats that the United States must stop threatening his country and supplying weapons to the terrorists. He has been as good as his word. The same cannot be said for the US and its boot licking allies.
Three days earlier US Secretary of State John Kerry – who had been killing Vietnamese in the US onslaught on Vietnam as American ‘planes rained down 388,000 tons of chemical weapons on the Vietnamese people (i) – had threatened Syria with a military strike if the weapons stocks were not surrendered within a week, stating that President Assad: “isn’t about to do it and it can’t be done.”…
All in all, why was Albania considered?
It is surely coincidence that on 3rd October last year, Tony “dodgy Iraq dossier” Blair, also an enthusiastic backer of Washington and NATO in their Balkans blitz, was appointed as advisor to the Albanian government to advise the impoverished country how to get in to the EU. Heaven forbid he might have advised that taking on lethal weapons no one else was prepared to touch, might tick quite a big approval box and made a call to someone somewhere in Washington. This is of course, entirely speculation.
However, as Pravda TV opined at the time, apart from the sorely needed financial boost: “It will increase the status and prestige of a poor country in Europe, Albania is in Europe’s backyard, in this case it will be going foreground.”(iv)
Belgium and France also Decline: “There Remain very few Candidates” for the Task; “the Hunt Continues”
Belgium and France also declined an invitation to dispose of Syria’s weapons, with Ralph Trapp, a consultant in disarming chemical weapons quoted as saying that “there remain very few candidates” for the task; “the hunt continues” commented The Telegraph (18th November 2013.)
The trail goes cold as to how many other governments may have been frantically begged to accept cargo loads of poisoned chalices as the US imposed clock ticked, but Italy caved in allowing around sixty containers to be transferred from a Danish cargo ship to a US ship in the Italian port of Giola Tauro, in Calabria, with further consignments also expected to arrive.
The permission caused widespread demonstrations in Southern Italy, the government accused of secrecy and one demonstrator summing up the prevailing mood:
“They are telling us that the material carried is not dangerous, but in fact nobody knows what is inside those containers.”
Not dangerous eh? Does any government, anywhere ever tell the truth?
Italy Says Yes. Not Dangerous. Send the WMD to Calabria. It will Help the Local Economy, But Watch Out for the Calabrese Mafia
The Giola Tauro port (right), which accounts for half the Calabria region’s economy “has been in crisis since 2011”, with four hundred workers on temporary redundancies- out of a total workforce of thirteen hundred. Not too hard to arm twist, the cynic might think.
The port also suffers from allegations of being a:
“ major hub for cocaine shipments to Europe by the Calabria-based ‘Ndrangheta mafia.” However, Domenico Bagala, head of the Medcenter/Contship terminal where the operation is planned countered with: “Since Gioia Tauro handles around a third of the containers arriving in Italy, it is normal that it has more containers that are seized”, adding: “We operate in a difficult territory but we have hi-tech security measures in place.”
Calabria is, in fact, plagued by corruption and organized crime. A classified cable from J. Patrick Truhn, US Consul General in Naples (2nd February 2008) obtained by Wikileaks stated:
“If it were not part of Italy, Calabria would be a failed state. The ‘Ndrangheta organized crime syndicate controls vast portions of its territory and economy, and accounts for at least three percent of Italy’s GDP (probably much more) through drug trafficking, extortion and usury.” Further: “During a November 17-20 visit to all five provinces, virtually every interlocutor painted a picture of a region …throttled by the iron grip of Western Europe’s largest and most powerful organized crime syndicate, the ‘Ndrangheta.”(v)
Moreover:“The ‘Ndrangheta is the most powerful criminal organization in the world with a revenue that stands at around fifty three billion Euros (seventy two billion U.S. dollars – forty four billion British pounds)” records Wikipedia, noting operations in nine countries, on four continents. Arguably, a less ideal transit point than Calabria for a stockpile of chemical weapons would be hard to find.
Of special concern to Carmelo Cozza of the SUL trade union is the port’s neighbouring village of San Ferdinando which has protested the operation: “The schools are right next door!”(vi)
However, when it comes to dodgy dealings, organized crime could seemingly learn a thing or two from the EU. Large amounts of Syria’s financial assets, frozen by the European Union, have simply been spirited from accounts, in what the Syrian Foreign Ministry slams as: “a flagrant violation of law.”
Last week the EU endorsed the raiding of Syria’s financial assets frozen across Europe and the the transfer of funds to
“ … the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) … a flagrant violation of the international law and the UN Charter and understandings reached by the executive board of the OPCW”, commented a Foreign Ministry source, adding: “the European step violates the resolution of the OPCW executive board adopted on 15thNovember 2013 which acknowledged Syria’s stance which was conveyed to the Organization, officially stating the inability to shoulder the financial costs of destroying the chemical weapons.”
The theft of Syria’s moneys was condemned as a: “swindle policy practiced by some influential countries inside the EU at a time when they reject to release frozen assets to fund purchase of food and medicine which is considered the priority of the Syrian state … (meanwhile) the EU allowed its members to arm the terrorist groups which are responsible for bloodshed in Syria … ” the source added.”(vi) It is hard to disagree.
The EU/UN/OPCW has apparently learned well from the UN weapons inspectors and other UN benefits from the Iraq embargo, which bled the country dry from “frozen” assets, to which they helped themselves, as the children died at an average of six thousand a month year after year, from “embargo related causes.” As the UN spent Iraq’s moneys, Iraq’s water became a biological weapon, the lights went off and medical and educational facilities largely collapsed. Are UN embargoes the UN’s shameful new money spinner?
So, can things get worse in the black farce which is the chaotic, dangerous, disorganised disposal attempts of Syria’s chemical materials? You bet they can.
The companies selected to destroy the chemicals are Finland’s Ekokem and the US subsidiary of the French giant Veolia.
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More info here:
http://dailybail.com/home/the-mafia-is-moving-into-green-energy.html
More to come….
Breakingt News: Mexico invades East LA.
same result... Mexico would hang up on Barry.
"Vlad, this is Barry, the community activist between 133St and North Ave. Listen, you've got to.... What? Yea, I'll hold."
Putin was probably thinking, "Wow, Barry is a real idiot."
Russia finished the Napoleanic wars,
Russia started the Crimean War, "Russia and the Ottoman Empire went to war in October 1853 over Russia's rights to protect Orthodox Christians."
started the first World War I (they were the first to mobilize and shoot)
started WWII (they divided Poland with Germany opening the door)
started the Cold War
And you expect what from Russia?
Putin will not stop until the Bosphorus is Russian.
Putin used a very key phrase. Russia reserves the right to protect its interests and the Russian-speaking population living there.
He didn't say Russian citizens. He said "Russian-speaking population". Half of Ukrainian citizens speak Russian rather than Ukrainian.
He basically has said he had the right to invade a sovereign country that happens to speak Russian.
Similar to Hitler invading German speaking countries.
Putin would not have to speak with Obama about anything. He would talk to Loyd Blankfein or Jamie Dimon or Janet Yellen if he wanted to discuss the US position about anything.
Obama is the Totus for the retarded people in the US and serves no real purpose.
Obama: "Vald you know this is not really nice what you are doing. Can you please stop?"
Vlad: "Suck my dick."
Obama: "Sure, can Reggie cum too?"
Hey Obama! What are you going to do about it?
Let's quit picking on TOTUS before he does something stupid<>
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Putin said that negotiating w the arrogant narcissist pathologic lying illegal alien kenyan muslim sociopath is like playing chess w a pigeon. It knocks all the pueces over, shits on yhe board, n struts around like it won.
If I were any of the Baltic States, I would be shaking in my boots. The same rationale used in Ukraine will work for there. There are lots of Russians in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. And they are strategically placed.
those countries were strategically placed from 1921 through 1991.
Soon they will be strategically placed again.
Obama to Vlad, "I have succeeded in raising the level of apathy of the American people to the level necessary for you to do damn near anything you wish. I have fired most of the ranking men and women in the military who gave a rat's ass about the country and might stand in your way. Anything further I can do to be of assistance just let me know. I am busy watching college basketball as you well know it is March madness in my country now and too cold to golf unless I fly my 747 to the islands. Talk to you later,,,,,,,
Obama to Vlad, "I have succeeded in raising the level of apathy of the American people to the level necessary for you to do damn near anything you wish. I have fired most of the ranking men and women in the military who gave a rat's ass about the country and might stand in your way. Anything further I can do to be of assistance just let me know. I am busy watching college basketball as you well know it is March madness in my country now and too cold to golf unless I fly my 747 to the islands. Talk to you later,,,,,,,
barry. there will be consequences.
Putin. bah what consequences.?
barry. ah..ugh..well lets just say economic sanctions for starters
putin. Then us and china will call in our loans, (laughs) that will be an economic consequence.
barry. (whispers. what do i say now) (pause.) there will be consequences.
putin . you said that.
barry. well there will be
putin. listen up gay crack fuk. You come in here we will make you wish you hadnt
Obama: Dude, if you do this, I'm, like, calling off lunch.