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Horrific Knife Attack In China Leaves 33 Dead (130 Injured)
Submitted by James Pach via The Diplomat,
In one of the deadliest acts of terror in China in recent memory, a group of ten knife-wielding assailants attacked passersby at the Kunming Railway Station in the southwest of the country on Saturday night, killing at least 29 and wounding another 130. Police also shot and killed four of the attackers and captured one more. The other five are on the run, according to reports. State broadcaster CCTV said two of the attackers were women, one of whom was killed by police and the other captured.
Local Kunming government officials say that evidence at the scene point to separatists from China’s restive Xinjiang region, in what is being called “an organized, premeditated violent terrorist attack.” China’s state media outlet Xinhua quotes domestic senior Chinese security official Meng Jianzhu as vowing to “severely punish” the attackers “according to law.” Those comments were later echoed by President Xi Jinping, who also heads China’s security commission. The Global Times reports that Xi has asked “law enforcement to crack down on violent terrorist activities in all forms.” It also notes that UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon expressed his hope that “those responsible will be brought to justice.”
The attack follows an incident in Tiananmen Square last October, in which a man drove an SUV carrying his wife and mother into a crowd and set it on fire. That attack killed five people and injured 40, and profoundly shocked the nation. Beijing said that the attack was the work of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM). Speaking with The Diplomat last year, Uyghur American Association president Alim Seytoff rebuffed that claim, questioning whether the ETIM even existed. Uyghur rights groups in general have denied claims that Uyghur separatists are behind the recent violence.
Saturday’s attack comes ahead of the annual meeting of China’s parliament on Wednesday, a time when security is usually tightened. Chinese officials have had trouble containing violence in Xinjiang, where local Uyghurs chafe against the growing Han Chinese presence, religious repression and heavy-handed security. Until recently, however, incidents were largely confined to within Xinjiang itself. If the Kunming attack is linked to Xinjiang, it could represent an escalation in Beijing’s troubles with the region, with the violence now spreading to other parts of China. Kunming is in Yunnan province, which has not previously been associated with terror incidents.
Victims of the Kunming attack say the attackers, dressed in black, burst into the railway station and began slashing at people randomly. Photos show the blood-stained floor of the station strewn with luggage, and medical personnel treating the wounded. Some eyewitnesses said that the assailants were carrying multiple blades, while others reported the attackers stabbing their victims multiple times.
The regional government in Xinjiang announced last month that it would be doubling the police’s counterterrorism budget for 2014.
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You're right- every crazy-assed MFer that can shoot halfway straight and pass some braindead "class" taught by some off-duty donut-inhaler should be able to carry a gun in the grocery store where my wife and kids shop.
That crazy-assed MFer that can shoot halfway straight just might save your wife and kids if an even crazier-assed MFer decides to bring out his gun at the grocery store.
You have to accept the reality that not everyone is a IQ 200 polymath.
And Sheldon Cooper would crap himself. I'm guessing the below average IQ former highschool football linemen/hockey players/rugby dudes would be cooler customers and possibly more accurate than the average of the sort of persons that sat beside me in most of the geekfest university courses I attended. Some practice at adrenalin pumped agression would help anyone get this right.
In engineering we call it impedance matching. You always speak to a person in their language because it's the most efficient means of communication. In plain English, we call it 'relating to someone' or something like that. What I sensed in homeboy's comment was condescension towards the average and below average intellegence groups. 'Smart' people get along with 'dumb' people through impedance matching. Condescension is just assholism. Maybe it's a rich vs. poor thing. Who knows.
It is very obvious that you can not or choose not to carry. If you did you would not have that logic. In defense of all people that carry, according to the meme we are all crazy. That's the way we like it. We are just as crazy as the bad guy, and that is what scares him. Therfore he decides its not worth the chance to pull stupid shit.
Its actually a fair point.
At the same time (and I can't emphasize this enough) there should never, EVER be a test given for exercising a simple right.
The cost of living with freedom & liberty is, the thug realizing the crazy old widow woman living down at the end of the road, all by herself, is armed and will shoot you, graveyard dead.
I'm guessing you missed it too.
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/10/not-a-peep-from-obama-violent-crime-reaches-42-year-low/#axzz2utL0zvZu
And for you leftists
http://themonkeycage.org/2012/07/21/the-declining-culture-of-guns-and-violence-in-the-united-states/
notice this author makes NO note of how concealled carry has been dropping like a rock too.
One thing is for certain, all incidents are more difficult to prevent if all you're armed with is a large-caliber pussywhine. Guns save lives. Or have you never seen a cop?
"More freedoms, more problems."
"More self-determination, more problems."
"More responsibility, sound money, and lack-of-corporate-bailouts, more problems."
"what happens if an open-carrying person goes nuts?"
The gun genie came out of the bottle a very long time ago, as much as you would like to believe that you can close your eyes and plug your ears and pretend it didn't.
There, GaryPaul. You actually made the point and then missed it.
You asked, "What if an open carrying person goes nuts?".
The danger is not the weapon. The extreme danger is the homicidal human animal that has gone "nuts". With no gun, he can use poison, fire, or the hood of his pickup truck to kill and keep killing until he is stopped. There is no possible weapons ban that will make you safe.
No dipshit
You are a closet muslim apologist. Muslims have always been more then mad. Open your fucking eyes. Look all over the world...
You see terror in
India and the Sudan and Algeria and New York and Pakistan and Israel and Russia and Chechnya and the Philippines and Indonesia and Nigeria and England and Thailand and Spain and Egypt and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Turkey and Morocco and Yemen and Arkansas and France and Uzbekistan and Gaza and Tunisia and Kosovo and Bosnia and Mauritania and Kenya and Eritrea and Syria and Somalia and California and Kuwait and Virginia and Ethiopia and Georgia and Jordan and United Arab Emirates and Louisiana and Texas and Tanzania and Illinois and Australia and Pennsylvania and Belgium and Denmark and East Timor and Qatar and Maryland and Tajikistan and the Netherlands and Afghanistan and Chad and Canada and China and Nepal and the Maldives and Argentina and Mali and Angola and the Ukraine and Uganda and North Carolina and Germany and Arizona and Lebanon and Iran and Kazakhstan and Sweden and Azerbaijan and Iraq and Scotland and Macedonia and Bulgaria and Cameroon and Massachusetts and...
...and pretty much wherever Islam is taken seriously:
In the USA everyday the cop's kill more civilians than Muslim, .. FACT.
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But its clear that the ZH post is a pro-AIPAC, anti Muslim,... Never let a good anti-muslim story go to waste.
So is Islamic Jihad real or a false flag? I'm so confused.
Was the Mumbai attack staged too? Count me confuzzled.
Lets blame all creationist religion. Noneed to single one out; they're all off the fucking common sense charts.
Does that mean we blame the Giant Spaghetti Monster or Mitochondria?
hahaha
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. (source)
More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)
19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years. (source)
Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years. (source)
But the question includes who funds these extremists and what happens when someone pulls the plug.
"The Taliban Have Run Out Of Money Just As U.S. Troops Prepare To Leave Afghanistan"
http://www.ibtimes.com/taliban-have-run-out-money-just-us-troops-prepare...
Who is funding all these new mosques in western china?
To wit we can only conclude:
Go Christians! Go Christians! Go Christians!
Seriously. You got some uber-retarded thread jacking going on here
So it was the NYPD that attacked the mall in Kenya?
spitser is that name jewish ?
google image israel white phosphorus
you dumb cunt
He's always on here with some crazy-assed "Mooslims under my bed" shit.
Im not a Jew.. But I am Dutch and in Holland, we take this scum seriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VshTd6jAgtM
Rejection of Islam should be something we could all agree on.
Your locale explains a lot. Europe and its Muslim problem is a gas tank in search of a match.
As per design.
Looks like he's just trippin' on the fumes and we get to smell it.
No shit. Europeans should examine who is flooding their countries with poor immigrants. I agree it's wrong, but the real culprits are the ones setting the policies, with the intent of destroying both the host culture and the immigrants.
Isreal doesn't waste its time fighting politically correct wars.
Haters will hate no matter what.
Nazis like you will always be Nazi's
I SMEL A JEW SPITZER.
google image depleted uranium babies.
you will like it dead muslim kids you can jerk off over the dead you freak
No just folks like GP below here. Equivalent force is a recipe for disaster is a cowards chocie, blithely ignoring thousands of years of evidence, becasue of his "feelings".. This is what we the educated discerning resist, idiots with a vote and an opinion. I sympathize with those who long for the great reset, fools like GP will thankfully not make it through to the other side.
had a fight with a knife holder, i had a .45, i am posting here so you get to make your own conclusion..
Should outlaw knives, like DHS wishes to outlaw guns in the US, that'll fix it.
At some point Level IIIA body armor will be the MINIMUM necessary to venture safely out in public.
To be fair, a single attacker with a gun is capable of a lot more carnage than a single attacker with a knife. When you have an organized group attack it can get pretty bad either way.
Not that I'm supporting gun control at all, but the same reason law-abiding citizens want guns rather than knives for self-defense is the reason criminals prefer them, too... they allow you to puncture a lot of people fast.
Are you people insane ??????
This has sweet fuck all to do with guns, knives or normal human beings. Islam, the ideology is at play here. Nothing, else.
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Amazing how 99.9999% of Muslims are never involved in a terror attack, then.
Not that I condone terrorism, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be a minority in the PRC either.
Come on man. Aipac needs the US to bomb Iran and Syria. So, get with the program... Believe the false flag attacks and hate the brown people like the mindless troglodytes they think you are.
Tulpa
On the other hand, 99% of terror attacks, including this one in China, are perpetrated by Muslims.
I do agree that being a minority in China would probably suck.
Even assuming that's correct -- I have my doubts -- that's not the relevant statistic when you're talking about discriminating against a religion.
There are mosques all over CHINA, and everyone gets along just fine,
Not like in the USA where the mosques are watched by cops, and locals fear.
In Asia these mosques have been there forever.
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The entire narrative here about MUSLIM is AIPAC/ZH manufactured consent for genocide.
probably the same % of high school kids that DON'T go on murder rampages.
Except that law abiding people rarely do the "flash mob" thing
100% fake, knockoff of a CIA false flag. Just like buying a "prada" bag on the street.
It just so happens that it was another 33 killed? Give me a fucking break.
Virginia Tech shooting - 33 killed
Bombing in Volgograd - 33 killed
More satanic bullshit from the Great Eye.
The asian reports here are 50 dead and 200 injured.
I never trust the ZH version of anything,
If I want 'truth' I don't look for it at ZH.
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What's more interesting is to come to ZH 2+ days after the event and see how its going to be manufacturing for the AIAPC history books.
And here we have a textbook example of the mental state of a good many of those who habituate the Zerohedge comments section.
You really are missing out on a lot of life by spending your time grasping at such absurdities. Oh, I know, you can "LINK" to proof of your delusion. Sure.
Wow 2+ days later and ZH hits this story, ... what is about rigamortis that gets the ZH master-bot to post a story.
I really like the first photo, of how people are still casually entering the train-station while people are laying in the parking lot.
If this were the USA, everyone and his dog would be running away from the station, only the chinese would continue to go about his/her business.
It's telling, just today me and the wife were coming home and there was a man lying in the street, my wife says "Nothing we can do,... "
Move along
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But now back to killing Muslim.
The train station is KUNMING is in the heart of the city, and not a mile from the station is a HUGE ISLAMIC MOSQUE and its right across the street from the nicest mall in the city.
The muslims in KUNMING are good people, and given that so many are muslim, I find it troubling that Muslims would go to Kunming,...
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We will never know the truth, ... I'm surprised the ZH bots here aren't calling this a 'staged' crisis like Boston?
I find it interesting that all of those folks walking past the wounded don't stop and try to offer some help of some sort.
"nothing I can do"
In asia if its NOT your family you don't touch them
I have seen body's lay for day's, ...
You can't apply western thinking.
"Nothing I can do", ...
In the west the good-samaritan gets fucked, in Asia he gets killed.
33 dead sounds kind of saturnic
kind a satan like.
kind of like china is joining the rothschild club or being forced to.
same old same old
team us,uk and israel
‘pseudo gang’—a state sponsored group used to advance an agenda, while discrediting the real opposition. General Frank Kitson, a British officer
first thought up the concept that was later used in the formation of Al Qaeda.
It was used in both Kenya and Northern Ireland. In Northern Ireland, most of the violence that was attributed to ‘Loyalists’ was in actuality not their handiwork, but the result of the activities of the death squads affiliated to the British secret state...
Warm up the ovens...
Typical of the ZH Nazi crew who hangs around the comment board.
Islam = warm up the ovens
Bankers = warm up the ovens
Putin = warm up the ovens
S & P futures = warm up the ovens
You sound pretty ready to warm up the ovens for muslims...
China is the next host body for the parasites to attach themselves to.
I'm not buying it either. Kunming is nowhere near Xinjiang.
yeah, but were told that the last incident in Beijing came from xin-jiang, ...
I smell a new al-queda,....
you can see what's going on,.. .fuck russia kill the ruble, cause terrorism and panic in china, screw yuan(RMB),
In whose interest would it be to make all the world's paper money look unfavorable to the US dollar?
This isn't Risk. You don't have to roll a 6 to move through two regions.
That is some weird crazy shit right there.
Killing innocent civilians will get you nowhere.
It's worked for the communist party so far.
yep, just ask janet reno, how 90 roasted branch davidian children tasted with marsh-mellows
Muslims are not the enemy. Those that anger and alienate them by killing them, their families and kids and prop up tyrannical governments against them are.
The enemy is here and calls themselves government.
It's reminds me of that old saying: Don't bring nothing to a knife fight.
LUGGAGE!!
(congratz on post 4499999 by the way; so close).
I saw a video a while back, Russians against a few unprepared Chechens or Georgians or something. It drove the point home you don't bring a pistol to a machine gun/grenade launcher fight either.
So 10 people stabbed 160 people... that's 16 each average. doable of course.. But i thought China had tons of Undercover Police everywhere.
hard to stop somebody willing to die for their cause, interesting that the last 5 ran. Hit and run is not usually a terrorist fanatic strategy. Sheep are pretty easy to slaughter, but i can think of a lot of places where 10 people armed with knives would have a heck of a time making it out alive.
I live near KUNMING and go there frequently, so bring it on, ask any question.
In general you never see cops, and you never see under-cover cops', that is 1980's shit.
KUNMING is a sweet, nicer and more beautiful than any USA city, its 6000 feet elevation, and it was KNOWN as "THE HUMP" back in WWII where the USA had to air-lift the assholes weapon, as always then and now the USA was support the BAD-GUYS.
The Kunming "HUMP" is the south most mountain saddle of the Himalaya's think MT. Everest, mother source of the Mekong River.
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The train station at night, ... you wouldn't see many cop's. All cops only work one shift, usually 8am-6pm, ... then on call. Most cop's I know don't even go to work, its a cushy job.
They don't have cop presence on the street, there are camera's everywhere, if a BAD GUY does something in KUNMING, they eventually get you on CAMERA.
NObody stop's for red-lights, .. complete fucking crazy, years ago they banned GAS motorcycles, so you can't even hear them coming down the side-walk.
Bitches ride the electric motorcycle, through markets, and I have seen them run people down, and just keep going.
The attitude is always "NOTHING I CAN DO".
"as always then and now the USA was support the BAD-GUYS. "
How is Chiang Kai-Shek the bad guy? Wouldn't China have been much better off without Mao?
This statement is so beyond ...... FUCK YOU TROLL that I made sure the FUCK you doens't show to the RIGHT, .. I don't want people to think that Satoshi uses the F-U word.
What are you asking for here?
When the WEST ruled CHINA pre MAO, every chinese girl was forced to be a WHORE, the reason that MAO had 90% popularity, is that he made the PROMISE to the CHINESE people, that if I'm the BOSS, your daughters and son's will never have to fuck western people to get money for rice.
When the JAP's invaded china in those pre-mao times they made chinese women whores everywhere they went, .. people were tired of seeing their children fucked to death by invaders.
I know that 90% of ZH are assholes, but dude or cunt please understand that PUTIN, MAO are some of the most respected and loved people for a fucking reason, they're NOT fucking their own people like in the USA.
Chiang-Kai-Shek and his clowns went on to TAIWAN and turned it into a WHORE-HOUSE for USA servicemen, ... to this day. Had the ASSHOLES won, then all of china today would be a whore-house.
First of all, idiot, it wasn't a statement, it was a question. A question asked in good faith, nonetheless. I was wanting your opinion, which you've freely given.
I never mentioned Putin at all. That is an entirely separate subject. But to call Mao one of the most loved people in the world is truly asinine.
Now that you've given me this insight into the bizarre workings of your mind I will simply say...forget it. Have a nice day.
OK, its was /sarc on your behalf, and I know all too well that here on ZH this is the game of all.
I don't like /sarc, ... I always mean what I say, and I say what I mean, and I don't hold back, or fear anything.
I mentioned PUTIN to give you an example of another man that is loved in our times.
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Had MAO lost the revolution to the USA puppet today CHINA would be a whore-house.
Ok, if it was /sarc, you still pissed me off. I hate the fuck KOU-MING-TANG, and most people do, they were just NAZIS on the USA payroll.
Forgive AnAnonymous for his response.
He’s been adversely affected by the fumes of the new adhesive being applied on the iPhone 6 assembly line
Without Mao we would not have this worker's paradise!....(or something along those lines)
I hope someday when the USA is broke, every parent can see his child become a whore, for money to eat, and then I will ask you this question, ... are you better off now than before?
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MAO is loved by Chinese, because he freed them from USA slavery.
Kunming is a lot closer to Vietnam than to the old East Turkestan Republic. That makes the Islam connection with this particular group somewhat odd.
The 'civilized' view is to not 'profile' groups or inidviduals based on gender, race, nationality, etc -- but the more of this you see, the closer we move to becoming un-civilized, especially when Islamic leaders do not universally condemn these actions...
People don't seem to understand that these are HUGE city's.
There are MUSLIM and Hebrew all over CHINA.
KUNMING is a growing rich city, ... personally my guess is that by hitting KUNMING you do maximum IMPACT to the elite, think of KUNMING as ASPEN-COLORADO for Beijing Elite..
Not far from Kungming is Xi-Shang-Banna a riverside paradise that rich chinese love to go.
In summary, if you want to fuck the Chinese power and hard and did so in BEIJING you wouldn't escape, but do so in KUNMING and 10 miles outside in any directions and your in REMOTE mountains where nobody can be found.
Mostly cheep trails,
To give you an idea how bad these areas are, its takes 1-2 days to go 200 KM, its just 5mph in every direction, and most areas are roadless, the south and west are some of the MOST remote places on earth.
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In summary I think KUNMING was chosen cuz you HIT the elite on their way home to BEIJING on the railroad, which means the same damage as doing it in BEIJING, but in KUNMING the bad-guys will escape.
Well, OK, I like this one (for content), satoshixxx, + 1.
Not sure where this line of argument is coming from. Manhattan and Arlington are nowhere near Saudi Arabia either; terrorists go where the targets are, regardless of where they're from.
All that's going on in the Ukraine and all the foreign policy geniuses at The Diplomat can find to write about is this incident in China?
Finally, for 3+ days its been 90% UKRAINE here and its all the same insipid shit from the same normal sources.
I posted this story about the train attack here 2 days ago, and nobody said shit.
When confronted with knife weilding attackers in a transit station....use your luggage as both a shield and a weapon!
First reports here in ASIA, was that those who RAN lived, and those who couldn't run died. ( almost 3 days ago for me )
WRT to your luggage as a shield idea, let me just say as a life long trained Samurai, you do that and in a 1/10 of a second, I'm going cut your arm or leg off.
Again, those that run LIVED, those that stayed because they could NOT run (OLD, or YOUNG, or INFIRM) died, or were butchered, those that RAN 15-50 lives,.. so basically mostly elderly were taken out, ... again this maximizes the effects for the MSM.
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In CHINA we call this the 100 monkey principal, in the SIGHT of BLOOD, most humans and monkeys "FREEZE", ... only a trained man fights back, and only SMART folks RUN.
Theory of Evolution shown right before your eyes.
the down arrows dont know that the sword with cut through your luggage like butter, before it cuts your arm off, also like butter. you can chop a person IN HALF with one of these just so long as you can swing the blade straight.
An excellent job and good start by the separatist rebels.
FUCK, quick Congress ban all knives!
Clearly death must be banned....and sharp shit.
The Diplomat, ZH's OWN friend PRO-AIPAC NEWS Source,
That's why it took 2+ days for this story to show up here, we had to wait for the AIPAC CIA/MOSSAD to write a story.
Kunming to a theatre near you...
Just when you thought President Obama and Secretary of State Kerry were the most deranged and dangerous psychopaths on the planet... Oh wait a minute... They are "in fact" the most deranged and dangerous psychopaths on the planet.
Sorry China.
But you'll have to at least destroy a few skyscrapers on the same day as a pretext for starting wars of aggression to blame on the countrie(s) you want to invade and occupy for "it's treasures", declare a few emergency doctrine(s) (based on those pretexts) to control the people for those wars you want to use them in, both at home and abroad and displace maim and kill millions over many years... Then we'll be talkin to one another!
Killing 33 and injuring 130 with a machete is so juvenile and prankish grade school!
And by the way my condolences to the tragic loss of life to those individuals involved in this series of incidents.
I just hope they are not in any way affiliated to the U.S., U.K., Israeli, Saudi factory that uses "Al Qaeda".
At the rate we're seeing these government(s) and their handy work you can't put it past them!
The Uihgers (sp?) are well known violent Muslims who live in the area.
Nice how you're already trying to blame it on someone else with zero evidence - only your sick fanciful suspicions.
Well in all recent history 100+ years, .. anytime an OPPOSITION to the China(Beijing) rule has occured, it has always been financed by CIA/MOSSAD.
Can you prove that all radical Muslims within a 500KM radius of KUNMING are NOT on the CIA budget?
With my own eyes I can tell you this, that outside of KUNMING most 'locals' are fucking POOR, and who couldn't afford a bus, and ninja cammy's, and all the OP stuff to run this sort of operation. This is BIG money.
So WHO is the sponsor? Fuck who were the soldiers, they're probably already dead.
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You mention Uighers,.. can we prove they're not tainted with CIA money? The official Xinhua story here is Xin-Jiang,... but that came out too fast, and nobody has came forward, the press game was to blame xin-jiang, to force someone else to take credit.
Follow the money, ... in whose advantage is this shit?
Another idea to follow is that the YUNAN is the richest and least populated area of CHINA, and if I were smart and wanted to get rich and be a king, I would lead a separatists movement and steal YUNAN ( Kunming province ).
This area with new roads and cargo going to Myanmar/Laos is soon to be one of richest places on earth in terms of business activity.
What if the MURDER was just some guy that wanted real estate prices near the train - station to go down? Don't laugh this is common.
I always find this strange.
I have traveled the world my entire life, and the every Muslim I have ever met has been the nicest, and friendliest person I have ever met.
They don't drink, smoke or wear gold.
Yet, somehow the west has demonized the MUSLIM, yet where does one find this Muslim that wants to kill everyone? Including his own Muslim brothers and sisters and children.
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Certainly less than 1% of Hebrews are assholes and certainly less than 1% of Muslim yet as can be seen here on ZH, the attitude is that all Muslim are bad.
Certainly if you kidnap an innocent man, and detain him 10+ years in Guantanamo then release him you have created a monster, but this is exactly how the USA and Palestine are controlled, or I should say 'ran'.
evidence at the scene point to...
So, what is the evidence? Did they catch any 'perpetraitors'? Or is this mere conjecture?
Five of the Muslims were killed and others were captured.
Thanks. From the previous reports, and people I asked, nobody could tell me anything.
All seems straight forward then in that case.
is this s&p positive?
911 Bush Kills 3,000 USA Citizens,
Obama destroys Ukraine
CIA creates Ethnic Islamic Terrorists in ASIA to destroy emerging economy's and currency competing with the USD.
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Which of the above is plausible?
1 and 3. Obama won't do shit about Ukraine.
Hillary/Lurch Spent $5 billion USD on CIA stooges to destroy Ukraine,... you think that OBAMA can say "I didn't know?"
Hussein did that.
Delete duplicated post.
Muslims.
To all the Islamic apologists: was this caused by US policies?? FYI, the Wahabi sect decided to take over the world VIOLENTLY BEFORE the US was created.
We need to baconify the Islamists.
Anytime there is an attack, the Muslims get buried with pig guts.
Before their execution, they should be fed pork at every meal.
Mmmm...bacon. I do roasted brussels sprouts with bacon, onion, garlic, and aged balsamic (not Islamic) vinegar. A little salt and pepper. Mmmm...
Muslims and Jews both lose out. My brussels sprouts are heaven.
Nevertheless, miss out as they will, I would hate to over generalize the acts of a few to the many. I have a Muslim student right now, bright girl, pretty, everyone thinks she is a terrorist everywhere she goes. Seriously. She shows to a job interview and gets shown the door the second she walks in. She feels hated everywhere she goes just because she is Muslim. She did nothing to deserve that. Others have done horrific shit, she gets to pay the price because we overgeneralize. She is just a girl. Give her enough of your hate, and I wonder what can happen to her?
US policy, lie, steal, betray, take what you want, not even for your country, but for the monied class. It has not helped in the long run because we are no better than anyone else. In fact, we are a good bit worse. So much so that when Putin makes his move, we can request nothing without looking like pathetic, hypocritical, jokers.
Enjoy your hatred. I would rather feed you brussels sprouts than hate. That is a good reason to "warm up an oven."
Actually, we are better than the Islamists. Far better.
It would take a complete miscreant to think we are worse than the terrorists.
The Pew Poll found that about a fourth to a third of Muslims in the US suport the terrorists.
In the Middle East it's worse. It also doesn't take a majority of the Muslims to make them preternataurally dangerous to the US and to the entire world, as was amply exhibited by the murders in China.
Watch what China does to the Islamists in response to this.
Note that I recommended that the dead Islamists be buried with the pig guts and the executed ones be treated to the same. I didn't suggest innocent Muslims be treated that way.
I offer the use of bacon and pork products as a solution because it will save millions of lives. Once the Islamists realize they are at risk of hell for eternity, they will simmer down.
Otherwise it might necessitate killing many millions of innocent Muslims to get at the dangerous ones.
You are blind.
USA solldiers do not scream "JESUS IS LORD" before opening fire.
Honey BooBoo doesn't go into a Mosque and blow herself up whilst screaming "In the name of JEEE-zus!"
Hindus don't do this, Buddhists don't do this, even the Joooos don't do this.
No, this special brand of mid-7th Century fanaticism is reserved for Islam.
Almost all terrorism on this planet, Muslims not playing well with others.
No word yet on the criminal indictment of Mao killing 75,000,000 of his own citizens.
IHMO I think he re-educated 10 MILLION PRO-USA whores, all good commies or those not tainted with PRO-USA ( SHANGHAI ) got a free pass.
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But stalin had the same problem, its called RESET and its coming to the USA.
Post CIVIL war in the USA, ... you really think that +10 MILLION will not die, and will they blame HILLARY-2016 or will she be seen as a HERO?
Who dies? Libertarians, Libtards, or shit eating Limbaugh ditto-heads?
Chinese were doing that long before this language was created. Nothing new, Mao not special in that regard.
Nor his Bolshevik-Israeli backers.
My condolences to the tragic loss of life of the victims of this terrorist work and the many injured there.
China should not only focus on the field executioners but must chase and eradicate the entire supporting terrorist networks incl. the funders and instigators abroard! Pre-emptive measures are necessities!
These terrorist works are just attempts to create terrors, horrors, and horizontal conflicts among the people!
This is NOT an issue of Moslem vs. Non-Moslem... this is a matter of TERRORISTS vs. THE PEOPLE. and those terrorists can wear any label that they deem fit. If one ever visits Xinjiang, one will understand what do I mean, after witnessing the peaceful lives and lively interaction among the multi-ethnic people there... and Moslems in China can be found not only in Xinjiang but also in few other provinces there are significant Moslem populations, and they do not just belong to Uyghur ethnicity.
Even under the tight grip of security as displayed in China, the terrorists still occasionally succeeded in their terrror works. Can one just imagine what kind of hell the terrorists may create there if the govt is weak and ineffective?
I hope the Chinese people won't be traumatized by this terrorist work and become paranoid then. Life must carry on as usual in an unaffected way. Some precautions are okay, but should not be overdone in order to not destroy the essence of life. Let the security forces deal with the terrorist cells and their networks incl. their supporting resources, both domestically and abroad!!
Old style spelling of Muslim. Writer is over 55 years of age.
It's just a coincidence that 95% of the current conflicts on the planet involve Muslims.
It's just a coincidence that all terrorism is Muslim. /s
Political Correctness makes people stupid.
USA supporting the Uighurs. The USA has supported the Uighurs in the past but ended this practice in the 1970s in exchange for a curtailment of PRC support of communists in Thailand and the Philippines. After the Afghan War against the USSR elements included Uighurs which did move back into the PRC, but they were no more under US control than the Arab elements which turned on the USA itself as Al-Qaeda nor the Chechnyan elements that turned on Russia. Covert support of the Uighurs by the USA or its allies is a very high risk gambit that risks costs to the Sino-American/West relationship that is vastly more important than any tactical advantage that could be gained through the Uighurs. However, the USA and the West holds China responsible for North Korea and if they go completely insane and attack someone, all bets are off with the PRC and all cards are back on the table.
Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in China, it would be useful to look more closely into the actual role of the US Government’s ”independent“ NGO, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED). All indications are that the US Government, once more acting through its “private” Non-Governmental Organization, the NED, is massively intervening into the internal politics of China.
The reasons for Washington’s intervention into Xinjiang affairs seems to have little to do with concerns over alleged human rights abuses by Beijing authorities against Uyghur people. It seems rather to have very much to do with the strategic geopolitical location of Xinjiang on the Eurasian landmass and its strategic importance for China’s future economic and energy cooperation with Russia, Kazakhastan and other Central Asia states of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.
when the US invaded Afghanistan in 2001, they claimed that there were over twenty 'terrorist training camps' as they called them, they were all training terrorists to go and attack America. Well, this is an absolute lie. One among many.
Most of the training camps, 90% of the people in the training camps were either Kashmiris being trained by Pakistani Intelligence Service, the ISI, with full American knowledge, to go an fight in Kashmir against Indian rule. That was the biggest group, and the second biggest group were people from Central Asia, mainly Uzbekistan and Khazakistan and Tajikistan who were being organized and trained to go and fight these dreadful communist regimes of Central Asia, again with full American knowledge.
And finally there were a group of Uighurs - Chinese muslims from Xinjiang province in Western China who were being trained by Bin Laden to go and fight the communist Chinese in Xinjiang, and this was not only with the knowledge, but with the support of the CIA, because they thought they might use them if war ever broke out with China.
The Chinese National Socialists had tried to divert people's attention away by using war rhetoric on some piles of rocks in the East China sea and failed. Now they have to stage a desperate terror attack on the innocent people to keep the eyes away from the reality. It simply tells us the real financial situation must be really shitty in China.
Oh look another atrocity another set of radical Muslims. Does anyone see a link here?
RIP to the dead, China you know what you've got to do.
China is a fucking shithole
Must ban all metal and all knives.
Makes you wonder... plastic spoons okay?
Sporks.
Actually, for real, friend went to fund raiser dinner at local USA high schoo recently.
No plastic knives were served. Too dangerous. Plastic forks only.
Hard plastic makes a fine shiv
'Americans' want to maintain the narrative (in order to sustain their natural rights theory) that criminality oriented elements in a society always find their way to guns so it is kind of useless to ban them since criminals will always be given an advantage over honest 'american' citizens.
Those chineses did not get the memo and were forced to mount their assault using knives.
That is probably what 'americans' call backwardization. Criminals dumb enough not to find guns when criminals are supposed to always find guns (all this to maintain the 'american' narrative)
In order to progress on the path of the 'american' way, the 'americans' in China need to train their criminals in getting guns. The natural theory sound bite wont work without that.
Funnily enough, in this thread, as 'americans' cant cope with reality, 'americans' toss the idea that a gun armed man would have been able to stop the slaughter.
But oh, wait, if people can find guns around, what states that the criminals wont be able to find guns around too?
So instead of having ten people armed with knives, you'll get ten people armed with guns.
The culture of death is so high in the 'american' mind, their want to make a profit of any business possible leads 'americans' to consider this event as a lost opportunity. Instead of having ten guys armed with knives slaugthering people around, it would be so nicer to get ten people armed with guns rolling in. So much more potential.
In the end, as long as in every place on the face of the Earth, it is not made legal to shoot and kill a 80 year old man, escaped from his hospital who suffered from alzhenheimer syndrome, on the ground of self defence, 'americans wont find peace of mind.
The 'american' culture of death must be extended everywhere.
Although I know many people here would defend this right, I can't help but agree. For those whose lives ended yesterday, it probably makes little difference to them.
It's a shame that the result will be Muslim people will get a bad wrap, and that eveyones' lives will become increasingly less humane and less free.
It's also quite amusing that someone had an agenda to scroll through this thread and downvote you and everyone else. Makes one wonder of what state of mind or persuassion they could be, pro-government shill, or just a simple lunatic.
One did, 15 minutes after 200 were sliced up.
It was when the police showed up.
I know you are incapable of grasping this point or reality, but I repeat it for the more intelligent who may be reading this:
It takes just a few seconds to 45 seconds to kill someone. Bullets fastest, knife wound to carotid, multiple stab wounds, choke hold them out at the longest.
45 seconds is nothing. It's how much time elapsed since I began typing this comment.
Police are useless in such situations. Either you defend yourself or you die. By the time they arrive you are dead, your family is raped and dead.
Those who are old cannot flee. If you are a 94 year old grandmother and 3 x 18 year olds decide to beat you up, you cannot run nor fend them off.
Concealed Carry Brothers! License or NO License!
Following politicaly correct "suggestions" mascarading as "law" doesn't mean shit if you're dead.
Amen bro! One gun would, at least 30 would have lived!
Ah, yes. I see from the headline that it was the knives who murdered 33 people, not the islamic jihadist savages.
Well done.
Nice reporting, James Pach, you managed to write the whole thing without using the words Muslim or Islam.
Third paragraph dude. You really need to get mommy to read all of it to you and not just the headline.
There you have it, I just went on a satoshi junking spree, it took 10 minutes at the bottom to do it.
6 hours of hard-drinking, and your san is reporting for duty sir,
Islam is a death cult. Muslims are sick.
a handgun in close quarters can be used only as a bludgeon once you have the muzzle direction under control. A skilled man or woman with a blade in close quarters is a thing to fear. 21 feet is what you have to stop someone coming at you at a run. Inside that it is game on. I forget which famous boxer said it but it rings true in any self defense situation that everyone has a plan until they git hit the first punch. Hear rate, adrenaline etc kick in and go up and most training goes out the window. It is called fight or flight response for a reason. There are some training programs out there that train specifially for those conditions. In a crowd like that with multiple attackers someone firing a handgun unless properly trained and proficient would probably be hitting the innocents much like the NYPD officers. Just saying.
I have yet to really disagree with one of your comments. In really close quarters against someone with a knife (or fist, or gun, or anything for that matter), I would be just as prone to quickly thrust my 1-2 pound chunk of steel straight at their face or neck as I would be to fire it at them.
"I forget which famous boxer said it but it rings true in any self defense situation that everyone has a plan until they git hit the first punch."
Mike Tyson - "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
He explained it further in an interview.
"Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Then, like a rat, they stop in fear and freeze."
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-11-09/sports/sfl-mike-tyson-explai...
Clearly, people making these attacks aren't going to be scared away by threats of punishment. They went there knowing they may be killed. Doubling police won't solve anything. What is needed is more tolerance for freedom of religion.
Obama is saying that if you give him first right to fuck every american male child at birth in the ass that he'll quit financing these assholes to kill innocents abroad.
Sound's fair enough? Right?
You just have to ask yourself, do you trust Obama? Do you feel lucky today?
China has a muslim problem....... Are these the uighars we set free from Gitmo and sent to Slovakia...... they could have walked home by now...
When I was still watching BATMAN on TV we had the 6 million dollar man on TV, today we have the $6 million dollar muslim terrorist, and that is just in training shorts.
The average investment by the USA in terrorists, let see UKRAINE $5 Billion USD for 1,000 terrorsts, that's $5 Million dollars per terrorist.
Well what do you expect from a country that can print money for free to infinite, ... me thinks that soon we will have BiLLION dollar terrorists, why not?
This is multi-generational war for freedom. This fight isn't about pistol calibres or knife-handling prowess either. This fight is over two basic government ideologies.
One government was created in Greece in the fifth century BC where all eligible citizens participate equally to control their leadership. And the other was created in Arabia in the seventh century AD, where all decisions have already been made for everyone in every situation without compromise or redress.
I Choose Freedom. Many, too many, ignorant posters here are talking false flag and conflationary nonsense.
Do not one of you idiots see that China is tucking in? They know full well that they will be framed for the economic collapse of the US. They know if they can just manage their populations as the suffering ensues that the US will recede Rome style eventually. Everything makes sense, from "excess" steel to "terrorist" attacks. Instead of blathering on brainlessly about Muslims and the like, maybe you should be praying that the Chinese dont sell you into the Weimar Republic by tomorrow. Trolls.
@ Ms No
You're so great and so amazing that you're still able to sell out this tragedy to blame China... on everything
And unless you're just a paid troll here you are just blinded toward the world realities, who's the real troublemaker in this world, who invades other nations and so forth.
Due to China's one child policy, imagine being a parent and your only son or daughter dies in this ridiculous madness.
In such a case you can have a second child.
There was never child restriction of one child in villages, only in the city.
Anywhere on earth when a first born dies, it stays with you for life.
Obama CIA Fund's Chinese Terrorists ... Uighurs - Chinese muslims from Xinjiang province in Western China who were being trained by Bin Laden (USA CIA) to go and fight the communist Chinese in Xinjiang, and this was not only with the knowledge, but with the support of the CIA, because they thought they might use them if war ever broke out with China.
Given that the USA has unleashed their CIA boyz on innocent civilians in Bejing, and now Kunming, you might think that China will respond tit-for-tat? On American soil? If I were Chinese I would go to mother source TEL-AVIV for my tit-for-tat. CIA/MOSSAD assholes should have shit dumped on their own door step where they roost.