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High-Probability Of Russian Assault Overnight, Ukraine Pravda Says

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On the heels of the Russian navy intentionally sinking a vessel blocking the Ukrainian navy from entering The Black Sea, Ukraine Pravda reports that it is "most probable that Russian troops will assault units in Ukrainian Crimea overnight continuing to the weekend." Citing a source in the uniformed services, Ukraine Pravda warns that "despite reports that Russian troops ended in learning, active phase lasts. They did not return to the barracks," and maintain "peak readiness."

 

Via Ukraine Pravda (via Google Translate),

On the night of Thursday to Friday a great opportunity to assault Ukrainian part of the Russian special forces.

 

This "Ukrainian Pravda" reported a source in the uniformed services.

 

"Despite reports that Russian troops ended in learning, active phase lasts. They did not return to the barracks. Could maintain peak readiness by the end of the weekend," - said the source.

 

"The most probable that the assault would take place that night, but the danger will persist to the end of the weekend" - source added.

 

"There are three scenarios. First - this air strike," - said the source.

 

He said that if Russian troops will withdraw from parts of the Ukrainian, that would mean this version.

 

"Helicopters are already relocated, and it is possible that they will do exactly helicopters," - said the UP.

 

"The second option - a special operations force for disarmament," - he said.

 

The interviewee said that in the Crimea are Russian special forces "Alpha", "Vympel" and "Zaslon."

 

"The third option: they can come up with ryazhenymy Cossacks, as with a living shield. Example is happening" - he added.

 

He also reminded that the Russian troops flooded his ship to block the path of Ukrainian courts.

 

According to the source, impacts may not be in all parts, but only by those who are the most combat-ready, including Sevastopol and Feodosiya.

And this follows the sinking of a ship to block the Ukrainian Navy...

An anti-submarine boat may have been the first casualty of the Russian incursion into Crimea, but it was hardly an act of violence, much less war: The Russian navy sank one of its own, junked vessels to create an obstacle, a Ukrainian official said on Wednesday.

The sinking was the latest in a series of moves by Russian naval forces in the area that were jangling the nerves of Ukrainian officers... the mouth of the bay was blocked by 10 Russian vessels including the formidable guided missile cruiser Moskva.

 

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Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:24 | 4518670 NOTaREALmerican
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President Merkin Muffley: [to Kissoff] Hello?... Uh... Hello D- uh hello Dmitri? Listen uh uh I can't hear too well. Do you suppose you could turn the music down just a little?... Oh-ho, that's much better... yeah... huh... yes... Fine, I can hear you now, Dmitri... Clear and plain and coming through fine... I'm coming through fine, too, eh?... Good, then... well, then, as you say, we're both coming through fine... Good... Well, it's good that you're fine and... and I'm fine... I agree with you, it's great to be fine... a-ha-ha-ha-ha... Now then, Dmitri, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with the Bomb... The *Bomb*, Dmitri... The *hydrogen* bomb!...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:26 | 4518677 walküre
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Why do they want to keep Crimea? Maybe just out of principal because if they give up the little finger, Ivan might come and take not just the hand but the whole arm?

How much negotiation and diplomacy has Putin's government tried during the revolt and after Yanu fled? Putin and his government are of the opinion that Yanu remains the leader of Ukraine. Not only that, they pledged their support to him and will not stop until he's reinstated.

I would call the US out just the same if this same scenario happened in let's say Saudi Arabia where the US maintains a signifcant presence. If the Saudi people revolted and overturned their government, we should high tail it out of there or seek an agreement with the new leadership.

Here comes Putin's personal down voting brigade in 3,2,1...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:44 | 4518729 rwe2late
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 Subjugate the Crimeans out of

"principal" (sic) ?!

To sneer at Putin?

Yes, the principle of a street thug.

They belong to us no matter what they want or how they vote.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:47 | 4518790 walküre
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No! Crimea is part of the Ukraine in principal until Ukrainians decided to let it go. Maybe Russia could have offered to buy it in a bailout deal.

Next.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:37 | 4518739 Panafrican Funk...
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Why did the US foment revolt (including a sniper false flag)?  What was the purpose?  Why do they care about the Ukraine?  

It's all strategic interests around the flow of energy.  If you really followed geopolitics, you would know this is the dominant motivating force for all action.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:45 | 4518776 walküre
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Speculation and unsubstantiated rumors about the depth of EU/US involvement and support of the revolt is all your side has got. Ukraine borders Poland borders Germany. Ukraine transports NG into Europe from Russia. Ukraine was badly mismanaged and exploited by Russia and Russian puppet governments. Anything else that should matter?

Just look at the time table. Look at Russia's military which had planned the training in this area weeks before any sign of revolt. The Russians were prepared. Why? Don't tell me they tapped a phone call. Bullshit. They pulled the strings and with a high probability controlled the snipers when the revolt started to turn into a major headache and something they couldn't control anymore. Who knows?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:51 | 4519239 eurogold
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Wrong P Funk .........it is convenient payback for Syria and Snowden

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:48 | 4518797 Johnny Cocknballs
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I didn't junk you, but you should expect junks.  That assessment was borderline retarded.  Have you followed this story at all?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:26 | 4518977 walküre
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Yes from my armchair. Which part of my assessment looks retarded from your armchair?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:29 | 4518697 Winston Churchill
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Doesn't make sense from a strategic point of view.

If true, might just be a local commander getting out of hand.

A big problem for everyone if thata the case.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:38 | 4518490 fooshorter
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And this helps Putin how? He was in check, pulled out ahead (master strategist), false flag ...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:38 | 4518493 ZerOhead
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This just in...

Russians claim Ukrainian fascist government sank Russian ship...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:08 | 4518606 Kirk2NCC1701
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Start/keep packing, racking and stacking.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 23:03 | 4518812 GoinFawr
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Not true, Russia has a longstanding agreement with Ukraine from 1994 that allows them to scuttle ships in that bay. Also, hundreds of Russian flag wavers have appeared on the hull of the sunken tub; and under no circumstances will they be left without protection from the Ukrainian neofascist waters mercilessly threatening them from all sides.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:38 | 4518494 PontifexMaximus
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No probability.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:38 | 4518495 alien-IQ
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Behind this is an American PR Firm. Of this I have no doubt.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:39 | 4518496 Jim in MN
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Ukraine and Kazakhstan operating together could quite easily sever all of southern 'Russia' to split up amongst themselves.  In real life there isn't much Russia could do about it.

 

Well deserved fate for those who indulge foolish dreams of empire.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:45 | 4518529 Winston Churchill
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Only if they want to become glass object d'art.

An existential threat to Russia will not be dealt with kindly.

Obozo can always send NIST teams there after as aid.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:50 | 4518548 Canucklehead
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If you don't mind my asking, have you been drinking?  Heavily?  Like Sandra Bullock?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:50 | 4518806 Johnny Cocknballs
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Kazakhstan's military would be hopelessly tied up by an unusually large herd of sheep.

Two such herds for Ukraine.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:19 | 4519140 Big Corked Boots
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I don't get out much but I have been to Kazakhstan.

Upvoted you.....

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:39 | 4518500 Rainman
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Drop your cocks and grab your Cossacks.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:40 | 4518505 Bunker Boy
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Is it possible to FUBAR the translation anymore? It probably says "Putin challenges drunk Polar Bear to wrestling match."

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:49 | 4518541 SDShack
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My favorite is: "Russian troops flooded his ship to block the path of Ukrainian courts." I guess maritime law trumps all in Ukraine.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:40 | 4518506 Kilgore Trout
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"despite reports that Russian troops ended in learning, active phase lasts"

 

Huh? Must be military lingo.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:23 | 4518664 Debugas
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it is a mistranslation

"ended in learning" actually means ended military exercises (that Putin announced about a week ago and then recalled the troops to baracks a day or two ago)

 

P.S.

in russian "military exercises" are called "learnings"

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:35 | 4518714 walküre
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Of course that's what it means. It clearly shows that Putin is lying if this proves to be true. The training or exercise hasn't stopped, the timing was planned by his team. Conveniently during the Olympics and a massive troop excercise in exactly that area beginning after the Olympics and supposedly ending a week later.

Military doesn't just decide overnight to move 16,000 troops unless they're under attack. A troop movement of such magnitude is planned weeks and months in advance. The schedule is well known.

Everyone draw their own conclusion. Think what you want about the Pentagon and the State Dept but unless they're all retarded, they saw this coming a mile away which is why they're tryng to keep the pressure on Putin who is clearly the aggressor in this scenario.

I've learned this week that the Canadians have cancelled all their joint military exercises with Russia. This is not a good development.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:44 | 4518769 Debugas
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the thing is by agreement with Ukrain Russia can have up to 24000 troops stationed at military bases in Crimea. So it is quite possible Russians did not move any troops into Crimea, they simply were present there all the time.

The dirty part of the Putin's game is that those troopers are not at their bases locations but instead walking all around Crimea

So you see excercises were meant to give some legitimacy to the "walking all around"

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:56 | 4518834 walküre
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Doesn't really matter how far troops need to be moved or if they're doing the exercise in front of their base. There is planning involved in setting up any exercise and clearances etc requested from local government. Crimea is Ukrainian and not occupied by Russians, correct? Military that occupies a foreign land can do as they please but even than they work with local government.

How long did Crimean provincial government know of the exercise?

Correct dates and timelines are most important for historical assessment. History will not look kindly upon Mr. Putin. His legacy is tainted for sure now.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:41 | 4518516 alien-IQ
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If you want to sell a war, learn from the best (at bullshitting masses of people).

 

How to Sell a War

http://vimeo.com/13977975

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:44 | 4518526 robertocarlos
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The Stanley Cup playoffs are going to be ruined.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:50 | 4518532 Kirk2NCC1701
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Let's be clear: The Globalist Neocons are desperate for an escalation or diversion, that prevents the Crimean people from holding their Referendum on Separation, Independance from Ukraine, and probable reunion with Mother Russia.

Each side is trying to front-run the other in the Propaganda/PR war, Diplomatic war, cold war and hot war.

Note to Bibi & Neocon Globalists: this isn't Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya or Syria you're fucking with, nor some gullible, weak EU country that you can "molest". You're fucking with Russia, China and others. And whatever wet dreams you sociopaths have, be certain that Life is more complex and unpredictable than you want and need it to be.

So... How about those "International Sanctions" on Israel, for its defiance of the Global Community? Can we keep our attention and global spotlight on that?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:32 | 4518709 Spumoni
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Are you and Tony married? Or just drinking the same StoopAid? Just for that far corner of your mind that isn't burdened by constant visions of the Wheel of Sauron's Fire, you should know that Almighty Israel actually has very little to do with this situation.

And be sure you check your ancestry - you may be a member of the Tribe of Dan.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:01 | 4519080 Kirk2NCC1701
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Spumoni, rather than eating up oodles of ZH space, I'm happy to have an "offline" civil discussion (offline to ZH)... in the hopes of progress and to see what overlap/agreement there is.  If not, then we can "agree to disagree".

If you wish, you can contact me at (Kirk...) at hush mail dot com.  -Kirk out.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 23:07 | 4519918 Spumoni
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I can only agree to disagree with an ideologue who frames Jews (or any other single tribe/clan/whatever) else, for that matter as the culprits for every disaster on the planet. You and Tony never make comments without disparaging Israel or Jews. My being derives from one set of Romanian Jews with centuries of torture and oppression at the hands of 'white people.' Since those ancestors of mine spent the last hundred years or so healing the sick and saving the lives of thousands of others who were not Jews, I resent your racial bias. You are quick to point fingers, cast vast numbers of people who you do not know in a single frame, by the actions of their military and political operatives. Any social scientist worthy of the name knows that pols and generals are an egotistical lot who are often twisted. They do not represent the rank and file, or resemble the common man.

You always carry on about the Rothschilds, the Jew bankers, the jew financiers, the jew this and that, but your own (assuming you are of European descent) ancestors framed their fate by denying them any other professions to work besides moneylending and jewelrymaking. You might do better to study how they make their money-they have been doing it far longer than any other tribe on the planet, thanks to 'white' people.

Israel's government is no better and no worse than any other on the planet - just more threatened than most. As for me, I don't give a red fuck for racist ideology. The time is long past when we can afford the luxuries of unsubstantiated hate. Far better to spend that energy finding solutions to real problems and a way off this rock. Otherwise, narrow-mindedness will place us firmly in the fossil record.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:40 | 4522619 Kirk2NCC1701
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Again.. I invite you to an offline email discussion (email exchange via secure emails).  Since you have not done so, I have no choice but to rebut your accusation of my alleged prejudice, by CLARIFYING statements I have made in the past:

1. To be "prejudices" against Jews, I would have had to made persistent BROAD statements that disparage them as a group.  I have not done so.  If you read me post with the clinical precision of a surgeon or lawyer -- rather than, as it appears, projecting your own fears  and sensitivities (legitimate as they might be) -- you would have noticed that I have repeatedly identified a specific SUBSET within the Israeli community.  To identify a political subset in ANY community is not prejudicial.  Rather, it is legitimate and necessary in a healthy political and social environment.

2. I have friends who are Israeli Jews and US Jews, if you had paid attention to my older posts.  As such, I have posted that there is a subset in the Israeli and US Jewish community that deviates profoundly from the Laws of Moses, and who have ambitions of Global control.  They are a minority, but rule over the majority (of Jews).  They might as well be "Luciferians" (figure of speech, not literally), given their actions, lack of Mosaic scruples and ruthlessness.  Not that I'm a scholar of Judaism, but I think that there are some Babylonian/Talmudic scriptures that fly in the face of Mosaic Laws, as they appear to view non-Jews as animals or less -- given some of the citations I find here and on other sites.  If accurate and true, then this is clearly UNACCEPTABLE, and needs to be called out and treated as a form of ancient mental depravity that it is.

Theirs is not the 'Type-A' Zionism that merely "wants a Homeland for the Jewish people" -- they already have that -- but, rather, theirs is the 'Type-Z' variety that will not rest until they control the world and enforce their worldview onto everyone.  And that is actually their ultimate goal:  To force their worldview into the whole world.  These Type-Z extremists, fanatics and zealots will not rest until they do.  Toward that end, the Type-Z Zionists use the CB system, they use the Jewish faith as a "Flag of Convenience", and they leverage the Jewish nation-state (Israel) and the Jewish diaspora in the world (US, etc.).  Types A and Z Zionists are world apart in their worldview, yet have a symbiotic relationship. 

To their credit, Type-A Zionists disagree with the Type-Z Zionists (privately in the US, and openly in Israel).  For that I give them "credit".  To their "discredit", as I tell them (in person), they do not oppose Type-Zs openly or in an organized manner.  I think that is because (at a subconscious level) they enjoy the benefits that Type-Z has brought them:  Way more aid, favors and blatant "ass kissing" from the US & Allies than would otherwise be the case.  "Hey, it is only human nature not to object too much.  Wouldn't you behave similarly and not rock the boat too much?", they have asked me.  I get that, but I don't have to like it, when I see the kind of soft prejudice in US, and blatant Apartheid racism being practiced in Israel.  To which my friend respond with "___, you can't have everything.  You gotta pick your battles -- be it in your love-life, at home, work or public life".

Many US/Western politicians, academics, clerics and media persons have been sucked into and duped by the Type-Z Zionists.  AIPAC (formerly AZC, a "Foreign Agent" that refused to register as such) is an example of Type-Z Zionists.  As is B. Netanyahu and his Likud ilk.  They pretend to be Type-A's, but aren't.

In case you missed it, my grandparents were MURDERED in Auschwitz (one beaten to death, the other one gassed) by the Nazis.  My uncles were shot by a firing squad, one aunt was first betrayed by her own husband (in the local pro-Nazi, right-wing party) and killed by said pro-Nazi group.  All because (a) my uncles were in the wrong place at the wrong time (at a local Resistance meeting), and (b) because my grandfather was an affluent merchant who had helped the Resistance and was 'suspected' of being Jewish (a Crypto-Jew).  To this day I do not know if this is true... I'd have to trace old records on site in the "old country".  Only 3 of 10 family members survived, including my father.  My father was in the Children's Camp for a while in Auschwitz, before being forced to work as a slave in German factories and farms.  What amazes most about him, is that he did not give in to hate:  He could have hated all Germans, but did not.  Rather, he hated the ideology and policies that were implemented by the Nazis, and the psychos that used the German Wehrmacht, the Gestapo and the SS as a convenient shield to torture and kill, w/o the usual consequences that go with it.  Ironically, all these men (and some women too) were "Catholic", but had NO qualms killing as many (if not more) Catholics than Jews. 

As stated above, not only do I have US and Israeli Jewish friends -- who are also opposed to Type-Z Zionists (the Globalist/NWO scum!) -- I also have many friends (and a few ex-girlfriends) in Germany.

As such, there isn't a soul alive who can "guilt trip" me or legitimately stigmatize me as being "anti-Jewish".  I do have a follow-up question to one specific comment you have made, and would kindly ask you to contact me.

Also, in case you missed it, I am an Equal Opportunity Critic of ALL bullshit and hypocrisy, and have severely criticized Catholics and 'Christians' for their non-Catholic and non-Christian acts and behavior, and for being too "sheep-like" when dealing with "wolves".  And I promise to keep being an Equal-Opportunity Critic of all things BS, cruelty and hypocrisy.  NO exceptions!  (So... AIPAC, NSA, Type-Z Zionists, etc, "Go fuck yourself!" -- You guys got NOTHING on me!)

p.s. Spumoni, I read your Profile, and I'm totally "cool" with your Biography, which seems to indicate that you're a "nice & interesting chap".

p.p.s. To spare ZH readers from having to slog through a similar post/rebuttal as this one, I will simply refer to the link of this post, whenever someone accuses me of being “racist” or “anti-Semitic**”. 

** A ‘bullshit PR term’ that ignores the other “Semites” (“Descendants of Shem”), i.e. Palestinians and other indigenous people of the ME.  It would be more honest and accurate to say Anti-Jewish, Anti-Israeli or Anti-Zionist, but the Type-Z Zionists don’t want that kind of linguistic distinction and precision.  And 99.9% of ‘Christians’ are too uninformed, or too damn sheep-like to object or resist.

- Kirk out.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:36 | 4518732 walküre
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Who says it's not Russia that's doing the "fucking"?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:41 | 4518759 Panafrican Funk...
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I agree with where you are going with your comments, both sides are basically just trying to control strategic energy flow.  Just keep in mind that neither side is the "good guy" here.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:57 | 4518840 walküre
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Agreed. "We" the people get shafted, kicked and abused no matter what.

Peace

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 21:43 | 4519687 Infinite QE
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While I agree on your overall assessment, I disagree on China. China is fully a New Bolshevik creation that is being used to destroy Western economies, and most likely will when finished doing this, will turn on Russia.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:47 | 4518540 Son of Captain Nemo
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To CNN...

Don't let this little "jewel in the crown "out of the bag!  Or so the Telegraph is Telegraphing!!!....

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:50 | 4518546 1000yrdstare
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The fourth option:

They can send in Satoshi123 with a Kukri.......he is one badass blademan....

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:52 | 4518553 discopimp
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Waiting for the Mission Accomplished banner in 4...3...2

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:52 | 4518556 marcusfenix
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how much of the military in Crimea is still loyal to Kiev?

guess we're about to find out...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:28 | 4518687 Debugas
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during Timoshenko and Yustchenko ruling period (which was right before Yanukovich) new recruits to Crimea were exclusively recruited from western Ukrain specifically to decrease pro-russian minded military personel percentage there.

Probably those recruiters from the western Ukraine are now the only ones still loyal to Kiev in Crimea

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:53 | 4518558 sockratte
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and pravda is known for telling the truth, sure guys. lol

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:31 | 4518702 Debugas
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sure enough

afterall, "Pravda" means "Truth" in russian

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 06:12 | 4520428 sockratte
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quite naive, if that'd be sufficient to make you believe they tell the truth...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:53 | 4518559 Kavklov
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GAME ON!!!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:59 | 4518579 Skin666
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Many windows will be broken...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:12 | 4518621 Karl von Bahnhof
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Isnt this a bad photoshop?

 

Ukrainian "pravda" is full of pathetic lies recently. How many "storms" they predicted recently? They are desperate for russian attack, clearly. False flag flying...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:12 | 4518622 stiler
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let the war games commence! This dang east-west balance of power.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:13 | 4518630 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Wake me up when WWIII starts

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:33 | 4518716 Winston Churchill
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You may have already overslept.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:46 | 4519032 Tall Tom
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Most people are still asleep. At least he is waking up.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:19 | 4518659 tony wilson
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whatever happens nato must protect the  us ngo's,the cia and idf mossad sniper units in kiev.

everything else can be torched and rebuilt later with imf loans.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:30 | 4518700 Son of Captain Nemo
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Boy ain't that the truth TW...

Worst of all the American people don't have either the courage, strength or wisdom or understanding of the situation to make the rational decision that this all must stop before it's too late.

Their brains are erasable 0's and 1's on a hard disk.

They will instead be lulled into a sense of security with their gy-gy blanket ignoring completely what their government has done with tere money in the last 20 years with the pivotal moment for change being 9/11 that they chose to ignore.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:39 | 4518748 Spumoni
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You might be surprised how many Yanks don't fit your convenient little insult. All sheeple are not American, in case you hadn't noticed. Your precious Russia has just as many, but with less education. How do you suppose they ever allowed an idiot like Stalin to ruin their country, right after Hitler killed 58 million of them? Same thing as home - corrupt cops and pols.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:52 | 4518815 Johnny Cocknballs
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if you think hitler killed 58 million russians, you shouldn't be here, you should be in high school, as there's no way you could have a h.s. diploma.

 

Jeezus, could you?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:03 | 4518862 walküre
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I was reading here today that Germany attacked Pearl Harbor. Public education is definitely tax money well spent./sarc

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:17 | 4518938 BidnessMan
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?  Let's go!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:53 | 4519051 Tall Tom
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That statement that Germany bombed Pearl Harbor was also sarcasm.

 

Everybody knows that it was those damned Frenchmen...Frogs!!!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:05 | 4519100 Tall Tom
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Total Russian Deaths...World War II

 

18 Million to 24 Million.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#USSR

 

It was a horrendous Death Toll and Russia too the brunt of the extermination of the total of 21.8 Million dead to 28 Million.

 

They lost 13.6% to 14.2% of their total population.

 

Furthermore Russian Deaths accounted for 82.5% to 85.7% of ALL DEATH suffered as a result of World War II.

 

That is extreme and substantial. Hitler did that.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:11 | 4519115 walküre
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don't forget the millions that Stalin and Mao killed

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:17 | 4519134 Tall Tom
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I do not. War is hell. "Peace" can also be as hellish under a totalitarian regime, one that conducts warfare upon their own people.

 

It is very sad.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 22:02 | 4519737 Savyindallas
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Lenin and Stalin killed a lot more Russians than Hitler did  - there's no comparison between the two. Stalin was 10 times more evil than Hitler -as was Mao. Churchill, Roosevelt and Truman collectively killed more inncoent civilians than Hitler did  -(if you count the 3 million inncent Germans killed after the war ended -and even if you believe the exaggerated , overstated, part myth official Holocaust story. )

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 23:14 | 4519936 Spumoni
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Read Winston Churchill, JC. Verified in history books all over the planet. Perhaps you should get out of the athlete's reading program and try something at a high-school level. That, at least, is on par with your wit.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 03:20 | 4520281 zionhead101
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Well since FORD, HARRIMAN, BUSH, ROCKEFELLER, ... put them all in power, in Russian, and Germany, I personally going back to 1910, about when the FED was created, I personally give all 100+ Million deaths, ... I give the credit to the NEO-ZIO-CON's, that in the late 1800's took their INDUSTRIAL (RAILROAD,Mining) profits, think RHODES, ... and created the Jekyll-Island show.

Me thinks that LORD-BALFOUR knew exactly what he was doing, ... he Gave PALESTINE to the ZIO-CON's, and told them they could have it if they "MANAGED" the  USA colony for UK, and its been that show ever since.

I call them the NEO-ZIO-CON's, and they certainly fucking are NOT Jewish.

That's why I always say.

Mossad ain't Jewish

CIA ain't Christian.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 03:15 | 4520277 zionhead101
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Well the Bosses in Tel-Aviv don't call the AmeriKKKan Public GOYIM for nothing.

"Cattle",

Think of this way, the US Colony went from Prison Colony, to Cattle Ranch, to Prison Colony, to FEMA death camp, in only a few 100 years.

*

So long as the POLITICIANS with dual-passport control the USA, the TEL-AVIV bosses don't give a flying fuck how they do it, and who they do it too.

All that matters is that FIAT to INFINITY sends TRILLIONS of USD FIAT to TEL-AVIV banks worldwide, and that USofA keeps cranking out new mercenary troops to 'terminate' Tel-Aviv's enemy's, and beleive me TEL-AVIV has lots of enemy's.

 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 03:26 | 4520287 Rock On Roger
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ur that satoshi guy that had several names

suise is the root

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:34 | 4518720 Spumoni
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I nominate you to be the office manager in Odessa for the job.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:20 | 4519144 e_goldstein
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Meh, they are probably having cocktails on the beach in Haifa already.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:25 | 4518671 FiatFapper
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So many speculatative 'stories' to feed the pageviews; i love ZH but it seems like one-big wrap-around where you keep publishing Chinese whispers to maintain the influx of ad revenue.

Facts are facts, no one has fired a bullet nor a missile, SP is making higher highs and current market sentiment is risk on.

I know the ZH contrairan viewpoint is appealing, but it does get tiresome...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:28 | 4518691 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  but it does get tiresome

Not if you've got pathological pessimism.   It's just another OCD,  like politics, religion, ISM, sports, ...   a brain defect.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:37 | 4518744 Bosch
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Don't forget about the Joooooos.  You know they are one with the Neo-Nazis now right? 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:53 | 4518821 Johnny Cocknballs
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What is your claim here exactly? Are you claiming that there are no Israelis, private citizens or otherwise, who were fighting with the "opposition" in Ukraine, as featured in... inter alia... the Israeli press?

 

Is that your claim, Bosch?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:06 | 4518882 walküre
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Well Klitschko brothers are almost German. It's just one big love fest! How do you keep a clear vision with all those blurred "lines"?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:14 | 4518923 Bosch
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Was just reminding him to blame them for everything, even if it makes zero sense. 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 23:16 | 4519946 Spumoni
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Well, do you have any proof that there are? What a pack of sandbaggers.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:29 | 4518696 JuliaS
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Smart move on Putin's behalf. He knows Obama's red marker doesn't work on water.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:32 | 4518711 FiatFapper
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Why use a marker when you can turn the water blood-red.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:31 | 4518706 blindman
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[KR571] Keiser Report: EU Membership Market
Posted on March 6, 2014 by Stacy Herbert
"... In the second half, Max interviews Dmitry Orlov of cluborlov.blogspot.com about his opinions on Ukraine and about the failed EU trade deal that led to the crisis and what the future holds for the economy." s.h.
.
http://www.maxkeiser.com/2014/03/kr571-keiser-report-eu-membership-market/
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Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:33 | 4518717 Bosch
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Maybe the protests were Russian planted False Flags to create a cover to invade and reestablish the mother land.  

See conspiracy theories work both ways. 

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:52 | 4518817 blindman
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true but,
think harder.
and ....
either way the individual
person is subject to the object
of the consensus, that is nearly
inescapable at this stage of global
occupation. now more than ever
man needs civilisation and rock and roll.
.
Eddie And The Hot Rods - Life On The Line ( Full Album )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSryvR0sdcI

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:53 | 4518853 blindman
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and that civilisation is not something
government, religion or banksters will
supply. again, it is in the hearts of the
people or not,
what they say and do and how it is
said and done.\.\
pay no mind to the babblefish reportage.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:33 | 4518718 Salt
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Should have used a cruise ship.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:34 | 4518723 Sufiy
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Economist John Williams: Financial Collapse if Russia Sells U.S. Dollar Holdings

With Ukraine in the headlines Greg Hunter discusses with John Williams the complications for the US Dollar Reserve Currency Status of the ongoing Financial War. China has sold the record amount of US Treasuries in December and buying the record amount of Gold. Today US Dollar has crashed below 80.00 again and closed at 79.66. Russia has already warned US that any sanctions will come back to those who will implement it. With China siding with Russia we can expect the acceleration of De-Dollarisation now. 

 

http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/gold-catalyst-economist-john-william...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:37 | 4518736 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Financial Collapse if Russia Sells U.S. Dollar Holdings

When was that last time this guy was right?  

(In the alternate universe he lives in doesn't count).

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 00:05 | 4520067 e_goldstein
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Similar to what Jim Willie's been saying:
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1394139780.php 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:35 | 4518727 Spumoni
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George Washington would be proud - he used the same methods to block New York Harbor. Funny how old technology still holds the rest of it back where it counts.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:37 | 4518740 Son of Captain Nemo
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Next tapped phone conversation to embarrass the Western diplomatic community on this soon to happen attack in Crimea that just announced that it is now officially part of Russia?

Ashton up!..., Urmas on deck!... _____ in the "hole"!....

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:41 | 4518758 Hannibal
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Aluminum tubes and yellow layer cake from,.....?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:02 | 4518762 teslaberry
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according to wikipedia, the ukrainian navy has only one meaningful warship, in 'modern terms'. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_frigate_Hetman_Sahaydachniy_(U130)

 

i mean, they might ahve a bunch of nice speed boats with manpads and stingers on board, but those are not really warships. allegedly there are 15,000 in the ukranian navy---- a force that was first commisioned 20 years ago under the collapse of the soviet union. 

 

i wouldn't call this a 'fight' so much as an operatoin.  of course, the west is already doing its job spinning this operation as a 'conflict'. henry kissingers' nonsense blathering opinion article in the washington post, which he himself may not have eeven written-------basically came down to one sentence----

 

 

go get em' team nwo!

 

 


Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:47 | 4518792 Mesquite
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And even wieder...

Thou shalt not even express a contrary view..

http://www.infowars.com/obama-bans-critics-of-ukraine-coup-from-entering...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:51 | 4519050 walküre
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ObaMcCarthy! That's a pretty dirty executive order there, Mr. President. More like a "keep up appearance" of doing something kind of order. Good luck implementing this across the world.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:48 | 4518793 bigrooster
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Just like a market correction I keep thinking that there is no way that this Russia/Ukraine war will happen.  It is just me or do you all think that if they blows it will lead to WWIII?  I don't see bathhouse Barry staying out of this one.  Just huge false flag is doing to have to go down to get the US involved.  I just pray it is not our sailors who are sacrificed.  

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:49 | 4518802 debtor of last ...
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Much higher energy prices will have to be justified to the people by war threads. Never ending war threads.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:55 | 4518829 Johnny Cocknballs
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oil and gas should simply not be priced by the processes and the fuckwits that are responsbile, systemically, for doing it now.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 23:18 | 4519952 Spumoni
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You wouldn't be suggesting that oil and gas companies be nationalized, now would you?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:54 | 4518826 ArrestBobRubin
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In other news, the takeover of the once-great land once known as America proceeds apace by the Real Terrorists and their paid henchmen.

So just keep watching goings on over there as you and succeeding generations of Fed debt slaves go into full blown tyranny right here at home. Right under our noses....

Israel Moves To Take Control Over the Federal Reserve
Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:55 | 4518827 kill switch
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JHK

 

 So, now we are threatening to start World War Three because Russia is trying to control the chaos in a failed state on its border — a state that our own government spooks provoked into failure? The last time I checked, there was a list of countries that the USA had sent troops, armed ships, and aircraft into recently, and for reasons similar to Russia’s in Crimea: the former Yugoslavia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, none of them even anywhere close to American soil. I don’t remember Russia threatening confrontations with the USA over these adventures.

     The phones at the White House and the congressional offices ought to be ringing off the hook with angry US citizens objecting to the posturing of our elected officials. There ought to be crowds with bobbing placards in Farragut Square reminding the occupant of 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue how ridiculous this makes us look.

     The saber-rattlers at The New York Times were sounding like the promoters of a World Wrestling Federation stunt Monday morning when they said in a Page One story:

“The Russian occupation of Crimea has challenged Mr. Obama as has no other international crisis, and at its heart, the advice seemed to pose the same question: Is Mr. Obama tough enough to take on the former K.G.B. colonel in the Kremlin?”

     Are they out of their chicken-hawk minds over there? It sounds like a ploy out of the old Eric Berne playbook: Let’s You and Him Fight. What the USA and its European factotums ought to do is mind their own business and stop issuing idle threats. They set the scene for the Ukrainian melt-down by trying to tilt the government their way, financing a pro-Euroland revolt, only to see their sponsored proxy dissidents give way to a claque of armed neo-Nazis, whose first official act was to outlaw the use of the Russian language in a country with millions of long-established Russian-speakers. This is apart, of course, from the fact Ukraine had been until very recently a province of Russia’s former Soviet empire.

     Secretary of State John Kerry — a haircut in search of a brain — is winging to Kiev tomorrow to pretend that the USA has a direct interest in what happens there. Since US behavior is so patently hypocritical, it raises the pretty basic question: what are our motives? I don’t think they amount to anything more than international grandstanding — based on the delusion that we have the power and the right to control everything on the planet, which is based, in turn, on our current mood of extreme insecurity as our own ongoing spate of bad choices sets the table for a banquet of consequences.

     America can’t even manage its own affairs. We ignore our own gathering energy crisis, telling ourselves the fairy tale that shale oil will allow us to keep driving to WalMart forever. We paper over all of our financial degeneracy and wink at financial criminals. Our infrastructure is falling apart. We’re constructing an edifice of surveillance and social control that would make the late Dr. Joseph Goebbels turn green in his grave with envy while we squander our dwindling political capital on stupid gender confusion battles.

     The Russians, on the other hand, have every right to protect their interests along their own border, to protect the persons and property of Russian-speaking Ukrainians who, not long ago, were citizens of a greater Russia, to discourage neo-Nazi activity in their back-yard, and most of all to try to stabilize a region that has little history and experience with independence. They also have to contend with the bankruptcy of Ukraine, which may be the principal cause of its current crack-up. Ukraine is deep in hock to Russia, but also to a network of Western banks, and it remains to be seen whether the failure of these linked obligations will lead to contagion throughout the global financial system. It only takes one additional falling snowflake to push a snow-field into criticality.

     Welcome to the era of failed states. We’ve already seen plenty of action around the world and we’re going to see more as resource and capital scarcities drive down standards of living and lower the trust horizon. The world is not going in the direction that Tom Friedman and the globalists thought. Anything organized at the giant scale is now in trouble, nation-states in particular.  The USA is not immune to this trend, whatever we imagine about ourselves for now. 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:56 | 4518836 Johnny Cocknballs
Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:06 | 4518885 Legolas
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What he said !

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 23:24 | 4519960 Spumoni
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Ain't it funny - we agree again. Then again, the comment is a statement of facts.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:48 | 4519037 blindman
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dude,
you need to supply link or citation above and
beyond "jhk". it is important.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:57 | 4519069 Dr.Vannostrand
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He is the author. Answered as such about a year or two ago when someone stated the same.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:23 | 4519133 blindman
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i have read this before elsewhere and it would
have been just great if i knew, could remember,
where with a citation of original publication
or link. kill switch or jhk, which is it or is it both
and that is all good but it could be a bit more
direct. or not, none my business i suppose
but this content is less than one month old.
so what?
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEC8nqT6Rrk

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:26 | 4519160 blindman
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maybe just dejavu?
.
we have all been here before.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiDOMuhpqUo

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 03:28 | 4520289 zionhead101
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Kunstler tells just enough that you agree, who could not agree, its whole ROMAN CIRCUS, ... Kerry himself must be reading this laughing.

But what KUNSTLER fails to do, is to tell you WHO is pulling the strings, and WHO is running the SHOW, and why ZIO-CON wants to steal UKRAINE.

That's the fucking problem with the AIPAC circus shit from KUNSTLER.

 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 03:24 | 4520284 zionhead101
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James Howard Kunstler, is a fucking AIPAC whore, and an apologist for the ZIO-CON fuckheads, what's worse is that the ZIO-CON's seem to think they can control the left and right by having assholes like JHK feed people shit for the left.

JHK is funny, but pay attention to what he refuses to talk about, and ignore what he talks about.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:05 | 4519093 walküre
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Good post, but Ukraine is not Somalia

a state that our own government spooks provoked into failure?

Russian puppet governments have mismanaged Ukraine for many years. Next to impossible to do business there because of it. Ukraine never enjoyed the potential and opportunity that other former Comecon countries had since '89.

Russia hasn't let go for over 20 years and don't think they have any intention to let go now. Problem is that Ukraine is where Russia will either live or die. From a Russian political and business perspective it's totally clear why they would want to control Ukraine. If Ukraine becomes reformed and joins the West, any Russian dream to restoring former glory days is lost.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:22 | 4519145 Toolshed
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oops, mispost.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 23:05 | 4519893 vlad335
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What the USA and its European factotums ought to do is mind their own business and stop issuing idle threats. They set the scene for the Ukrainian melt-down by trying to tilt the government their way, financing a pro-Euroland revolt, only to see their sponsored proxy dissidents give way to a claque of armed neo-Nazis, whose first official act was to outlaw the use of the Russian language in a country with millions of long-established Russian-speakers.

 

Well said. The leadership in this country is utterly bankrupt. Morally, intellectually, (and literally.)

Imagine if you will, a faction taking over the duly elected government of say...New Mexico. First thing on the agenda after stealing power is to outlaw anyone speaking Spanish. Would our lovely tolerant liberals not be shrieking at the top of their lungs and tearing their clothes over the racism, the fascism?

Hey, its perfectly OK if you are interested in plunder though.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:00 | 4518849 Rising Sun
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BUNKER BOMB MOSCOW AND FLATTEN THE FUCKING SHITHOLE!!!!!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:02 | 4518860 rsnoble
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Only if the same for DC.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:03 | 4518866 tony wilson
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rising sun

where you from?

detroit

look out your window brother what do ya see

paradise

or a fucking shit hole

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:00 | 4518850 buckwheat5000
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sounds like BS unless they have some seals on the US destroyer who are going to try and do it. If so, hope they find them red handed and put a few holes in them 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:01 | 4518854 rsnoble
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I was just thinking to myself before I logged on "wouldn't it be glorious if Russia makes the strike today/tonight and fuck up the USA's glorious perpetual green fucking friday".

LMAO nail their fucking asses to the wall.

One might wonder why a fellow US citizen would be rooting for this.  IMO it's going to be hard for the shithead overlords to continue pressing forward with their evil plans when the walls start crumbling down as far as im concerned let's get this show started.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:03 | 4518867 Johnny Cocknballs
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At what point do you consider Congress to be occupied by agents of a foreign government?

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/03/delivers-strategic-partner.html

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:07 | 4519103 Runs-With_Toast
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Q. At what point do you consider Congress to be occupied by agents of a foreign government?

 

Answer. About 50 years ago conservatively

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:06 | 4518888 homiegot
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I think the Russians are serious...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:12 | 4518916 Clowns on Acid
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Hey where is Victoria Nuland now ? I am sure that she could sort this whole thing out...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:27 | 4518979 RevRex
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It's a good thing we have a community organizer at the helm!!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:32 | 4518991 walküre
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If this gets hot, he won't be. 100% sure.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:27 | 4519165 magpie
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He is the annointed one, after all he retired all of those commanders...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:59 | 4519259 Tall Tom
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Were those Generals planning a coup d'etat? Is the US Military still planning for that?

 

Why is the NSA being exposed heavily by the MSM while the CIA goes unnoticed? The CIA works for the President while the NSA is the Military Intelligence Branch.

 

Snowden, a CIA Operative, was working indirectly for the NSA, and exposes that which we already knew? Is that all a little bit too theatrical? Is it Propaganda? Is it a Public Relations ploy?

 

Please tell me what type of internal games are being played out. Really I do not know that much. But something is very wrong. Something is amiss internally. What do you know that I do not? This is not snark or criticism.

 

Maybe the target for the DHS is not the American Public but the United States Military? I do not know. But something is very fucked up.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 20:22 | 4519373 zionhead101
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Snowden is a ZIO- WHORE, by the fact that they never release anything counter to ZIO-, you can be sure that ASSUANGE & SNOWDEN, if real would have ton's of DIRT on ZIO-, but its never seen telling.

Well CIA has always been off the reservation, and now NSA is pretty much doing the same thing with 'private contractors' and all.

All these guys are fighting for REAL SHIT, cuz its going down, and they know it, ... everybody is securing real assets from the DHS, to the FEMA, to NSA, to FBI.

Remember all GUBMINT is about RETIREMENT PACKAGES and the FUNDING thereof.

*

The  ZIO's are going to pull the plug on the USA, they have bled the bitch to near zero, with free FIAT to INFINITY, and the mercenary army will break.

Then the FED pensions go un-funded, every body see's this, pretty much like the Chinese PLA model of MIL, you fund/finance yourself,... "OK WE CAN DO THAT"

Thus the little people must fear much, cuz dozen's of 3 letter agency's will be at your door with their hand  out, and a gun in your face.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 22:30 | 4519820 Element
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And you are a dysinfo troll.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 22:39 | 4519842 nmewn
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Pretty much.

He's up on GW's thread prattling on about "white guys" in sunglasses, like black guys don't wear sunglasses and can't shoot straight or sumpin.

Bizarre.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 06:26 | 4520435 dreadnaught
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that is rather cro-magnon thinking....who else would have exposed to us that the NSA has been watching our every move?  Snowden still has a truckload of stuff to release-and most of what he has released implicates the Zionists-Just turn Israel into a glass parking lot and lets end this nonsense

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 00:33 | 4524217 matrix2012
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For sure zionhead101 is not alone in telling these lines... read the similar thoughts from Tarpley and Duff too.

 

How to identify CIA limited hangout op? | Dr. Webster G. Tarpley

 

The operations of secret intelligence agencies aiming at the manipulation of public opinion generally involve a combination of cynical deception with the pathetic gullibility of the targeted populations.

There is ample reason to believe that the case of Edward Joseph Snowden fits into this pattern. We are likely dealing here with a limited hangout operation, in which carefully selected and falsified documents and other materials are deliberately revealed by an insider who pretends to be a fugitive rebelling against the excesses of some oppressive or dangerous government agency. 

But the revelations turn out to have been prepared with a view to shaping the public consciousness in a way which is advantageous to the intelligence agency involved. At the same time, gullible young people can be duped into supporting a personality cult of the leaker, more commonly referred to as a “whistleblower.” A further variation on the theme can be the attempt of the sponsoring intelligence agency to introduce their chosen conduit, now posing as a defector, into the intelligence apparatus of a targeted foreign government. In this case, the leaker or whistleblower attains the status of a triple agent.

[. . .]

Read the rest here.

 

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Are whistleblowers sometimes ‘too good to be true’? | Veterans Today

 

Editor’s note:  Years ago, it was Julian Assange, then with “boyish/androgynous good looks,” spoon fed to the public as the panacea for all government and New World Order sins.  Assange’s job was to divert us from 9/11, cheerlead for Israel and offer timely diversions whenever real news, real “sins” got too close.  My guess is we have more of the same.  Recent news seems to prove me right though I don’t enjoy it.

“The NSA is the largest signals intelligence agency in the world and has quite publicly recorded, and quite publicly admitted to as well, every international communications from every nation to any nation for many years.

Everyone here knows that, or I thought they knew that, everyone but “the press” it seems.”

 

The Obama presidency has been, of late, inundated with scandals that the mainstream press tells us should bring down the government. It seems that one hits, then another, then another, they hit but then seem to go away.

Coincidentally, the Obama administration has also refused to arm Syrian rebels (a critical issue of character they have now proven to be “gutless” over), refused to enforce a “no fly zone” over Syria and, despite hundreds of news stories to the contrary, continues to call on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories.

What we are seeing is what Israel and her “hasbara” friends believe is a sophisticated disinformation campaign, inundating all media, from useless corporate networks and publications to supposed “independent” publications, many of them “online,” representing “right wing crazies” or the “anti-Zionist/anti-imperialist” left.

All are “spoon fed” the same disinformation and propaganda with the list of those “exposed” as propaganda agents growing by the hour.

SNOWDEN

Most recently, we have an intelligence insider, Edward Snowden, coming forward with tales of NSA spying.

Snowden’s own words:

“I had access to the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all over the world. The locations of every station, we have what their missions are and so forth. If I had just wanted to harm the US? You could shut down the surveillance system in an afternoon.”

Today, former presidential candidate Ron Paul cited his fear that Snowden might be subject to a drone attack.

When we look at Snowden, though he claims to have full access to all top US intelligence sources, he seems blissfully ignorant about the single largest betrayal of, not just America, but the entire world, the 9/11 false flag attack.

 

Read the rest here.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:42 | 4519010 magpie
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As a little boy my German grandfather loved telling me about the trains passing over the bridge at Brest, one direction Siemens machinery, the other Soviet wheat, two hours before a fateful June dawn...

Which reminds me, if Putin is Hitler...does that make Obama Stalin ?

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:48 | 4519038 SmittyinLA
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The problem with Russia and Putin is they have a learning curve, (Socialism/Communism, been there done that) worse still they're hip to all the leftist banker's political tricks like Socialist promises and political & media bribery, (they practiced them for decades under Communism). 

The EU moving in on Ukraine is like a conman trying to con a conman.

A solvent-capitalist Russia with a 15% income tax is debt laden broke Socialist EU's worst nightmare, Russia doesn't buy that green energy political kickback bullshit either, most of Ukraine's assets are unencumbered compared to the EU's assets which are all leveraged 9 ways to Sunday.

The EU us broke and looking for sucker states to loot like the old Soviet Union was in the 1980s. 

Those EU "mob demanders" should be shot for treason, because they're fucking fascist traitor whores willing to throw in with a gang of looter criminals knowns as the "EU". 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:05 | 4519094 Runs-With_Toast
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EU morally + $ broke. USA morally + $ broke +fuk tard Obummer socialist frankenturd.

Russia is wealthy focussed and deadly

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 08:44 | 4520549 Amagnonx
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Spot on - Putin knew the reasons behind the Islamic movement in Chechnya, the gay and lesbian protests, the external funding of NGO's - and he crushed it - the usual trickes wont work, and Putin is not going to wait around to see what happens in the Ukraine - he is going to bulldoze those who particpated and benefitted from the coup - they are all dead men imo.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 18:51 | 4519052 blindman
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babblefish extraordinaire reporting, wonderful!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:11 | 4519113 navy62802
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Lines up pretty well with my assessment regarding the ongoing cyber attacks against the Ukrainian government that were reported here yesterday. I still expect a Russian assault in the next 24 - 72 hours.

EDIT - Well, I guess that's 24 - 48 hours now.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:53 | 4519241 shankster
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I thought John Kerry was going to fix things over there...just like Hillary did.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 21:06 | 4519550 Quantum Nucleonics
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It's not widely known that Obama, to neutralize Hillary, had her made secretary of state so he could hold her hostage on an aircraft, sending it from country to country under the guise of diplomatic visits.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 20:18 | 4519351 The Wisp
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China makes a Tiny Little Aggressive     move in  4.3.2....

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 21:40 | 4519682 Infinite QE
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Now, China needs to launch an ICBM from one of their stealth subs along the US West coast whilst at the exact moment, Russia does the same off the East coast.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 01:21 | 4520189 Joe A
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Ukraine lost Crimea and they should accept that. No way Europe will go to war over this. America perhaps but Europeans will not go to war because Kiev wants it.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:07 | 4521633 matrix2012
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I will check again tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

 

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