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The Iranian "Stolen Passport" Passenger Plot Thickens
While progress on the search-and-recovery efforts of the missing Malaysian Airlines jet continues to disappoint, the stolen-passport plot thickens considerably. While earlier we discovered that it was a mysterious "Mr. Ali" that purchased the tickets for the two passengers traveling on stolen passports (with cash), The Telegraph reports that BBC Persia confirms they were Iranian nationals. According to another Iranian friend (who had hosted them while in Kuala Lumpur) the two were "looking for a place to settle" in Europe (intending to complete their journey in Frankfurt and Denmark).
Correlation is, of course, not causation; and conspiracy theories are running rampant. As CNN notes,
"Whilst it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane, it is clearly of great concern that any passenger was able to board an international flight using a stolen passport listed in INTERPOL's databases," said Interpol Secretary General Ronald K. Noble in a statement.
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"We have speculation run amok, because we have no facts," said Michael Goldfarb, a former chief of staff for the Federal Aviation Administration.
But it is clear by the level of investigation that authorities are 'interested' in these two gentlemen, we now know to be of Iranian nationality...
The two men said by Interpol to have been travelling on stolen passports on the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that mysteriously disappeared on Saturday have been identified as Iranian nationals.
A BBC Persia report quotes an Iranian friend of one of the men, who said he hosted the pair in Kuala Lumpur after they arrived from Tehran in the days preceding their flight to Beijing.
The friend, who knew one of the men from his school days in Iran, said the men had bought the fake passports because they wanted to migrate to Europe.
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One of the Iranian nationals intended final destination was Frankfurt, where his mother lives, while the other wanted to travel to Denmark.
The same source that spoke to BBC Persia also emailed CNN with a photograph of him posing with his two friends in the days before they embarked on their fateful trip.
BBC Persia’s UN correspondent Bahman Kalbasi told The Telegraph that the two Iranians were “looking for a place to settle”.
Of course, Iran remains a troubled and stifled economy thanks in large part to US-led sanctions and (as The Telegraph notes)
US-led sanctions on Iran have plagued the economy and encouraged many young Iranians, who face high unemployment, to seek ways to travel to Europe, North America or Australia – legally or illegally.
So, to summarize: 3 days ago a Malaysian Airlines jet disappears suddenly leaving no wreckage... the passenger manifest included 2 Ukrainians... and 2 Iranians who were traveling on stolen passports bought for them in cash by a mysterious Iranian known as "Mr.Ali"... who hoped to emigrate to Europe (by way of Kuala Lumpur and Beijing)...
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In 2000, Saddam Hussein launched the first challenge to the Petrodollar when he was convinced by France and a few other EU members to sell Iraq's oil for Euros. In 2003 (10 year cycle) the U.S. and Britain invaded Iraq on trumped up charges alleging that Saddam Hussein was in possession of weapons of mass destruction. We know the rest of the story.
In 2009, 5 years ago, Libya's Muammar Gaddafi launched a second challenge to the Petrodollar supremacy. Gaddafi had been elected chairman of the African Union and he pressed for the creation of a United States of Africa, which among other things would create a unified currency, the dinar backed by gold. He recommended that the African nations' oil would be sold for this gold dinar rather than the dollar. This was a dangerous challenge to the dollar and the U.S. could not allow it to go unanswered. It was proposed that brutal intervention in Libya was necessary on account of 'humanitarian' issues in that country.
The third challenge actually started in 2003 (10 years ago and half a 20 year cycle), when Iran announced its intention to abandon the petrodollar in favour of trading oil in multiple currencies. This was to be done through a new commodity exchange known as the Iranian Oil Bourse. This became fully operational in 2012. The principal purchasers of Iranian oil are China, India, South Korea and Japan and are using their own currency to effect their oil purchases. It is no wonder that the U.S. has been beating the war drums for Iran.
Something don't add up here.... mysteries take time to solve, some remain unsolved, this airoplane should be found on the ocean bottom, funny no radio distress
This is like a new diabolical twist on "Look at the birdie." Here it’s, "Look at the planeie, not Ukrainie."
Sometimes events overtake over events. The news cycle is short-lived.
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It is standard process for Iranians to use stolen passports to move to Geneva Convention Countries to seek political asylum.
From what I've been reading, there's a huge business in stolen passports (and even passports claimed to be stolen but sold for cash) and that illegal global migrants are the customers. On one fatal Air India crash, of the 150 or so people killed, 10 were traveling on stolen passports.
Obviously the intelligence agencies pursuing this are not telling us what they know, so maybe there is something to these two passengers, but I'm betting it's media hype.
The world has gone completely batshit crazy.
Truth is now extinct.
On a good day, you can trust yourself.
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No, the people who run the State have gone batshit.
Drinking makes you weak.
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This is all out of control. First off, what in the world would Iran's motivation be for downing that aircraft? They are tight with China, no problems with Malaysia. In fact, I'm not seeing any motivation by any government, despite the levels of paranoia here that it was CIA, NSA, Mossad, Ukraine, shit, give it a break. Maybe some Uighars or some other disgruntled minority in China or there was a super important super secret top drawer agent that needed to be killed (sarcasm). And if any of these dastardly high-level conspiracies are true, you'll never know about it.
If this plane is never found, I'm going with either a wormhole or aliens.
You also have this going on not sure how the cell services work in China so it could just be a quirk of their system. But an interesting point is brought up concerning gps tracking.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/were-phantom-calls-made-by-...
Rumours have circulated that many relatives were able to call the mobile phones of their loved ones and ‘connect’ before the call was abruptly cut off.
Other relatives say they are able to ‘see’ their relatives on a Chinese instant messaging service called QQ, which reportedly shows that they are ‘online’.
Families believe that if the mobile phones are still working, authorities could use GPS tracking to locate the phones and thereby find the missing plane.
According to Singapore’s Straits Times, Mr Hugh Dunleavy, Commercial Director at Malaysia Airlines said MAS was also trying the mobile phones of the crew members, and that they also rang. But it could not do more, he said, and had given the numbers to the Chinese authorities.
That really has me puzzled as well. If a friend's phone is destroyed and I attempt to call, will it give me that "ringing" tone anyway? If, on the other hand, a ringing tone automatically means the phone is functional, Houston we have a problem here. If the plane disintegrated and is in the ocean, no phone is going to be functional. If all cell phones were gathered from the passengers and the plane diverted somewhere, yes, they would still be functional.
spooky richard quest of the queens mi6 was with the crew of the downed jet a couple of days ago filming them with his cnn crew and mobile phone.
HOW WACKY ARE TIMINGS A
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THAT.
richard hack quest some kind of tv investment pundit ex bbc now calls himself an aviation expert.
spook ky
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/08/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-first-off...
and connecting the spooky dots lookwhatwe got here boyz.
new story out today wow spooky timings A
and today it is iran and syria
real nice.
Iran blew up Lockerbie jet, says defector: Ayatollah 'used Syrian-based terror group to bomb Pan Am 108 in revenge attack'http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2577930/Iran-blew-Lockerbie-jet-...
ah yes, the Lockerbie bombing, the Swiss-army-knife of terrorist bombings.
'Look, with this angle here we can frame Libya and get billions in concession. Flip this out and VOILA, Iran is responsible. We guarantee that you will not run out of heinous villains to invade with the Lockerbie bombing plots. 2016 - Venezuela did it, using Libyans. 2019 - Russia did it, using Libyan and Iranian intermediaries. 2022 - China did it, framing Russia, using Cuban, Libyan, Venezuelan and Iranian middlemen.
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There are lot of Iranians in Thailand running various sleazy businesses. This proves nothing. The fact that the plane made a turn is more significant as it sounds like the pilots detected aircraft failure and rapidly tried to return.maybe that repaired wingtip gave way. And do note when that happens they won't radio right away, as it's a few steps to do that. They will variate, navigate and then communicate.
The turn-around reports have really not been confirmed. The Malaysians are intimating that secondary radar shows this, but even they seemed to backtrack today. I guess we'll have to wait on that.
I'm sticking with the alien theory,if I get grabbed on my next flight,I at least hope the probe vibrates.
You know some jihadist brought his toothpaste and fingernail clippers on board and took that motherfucker down.
Fuck it, I'll red myself. Just trying to illutrate the point that we can't take the small, innocent things on an airplane and yet the whole goddamn 777 can vanish.
Strait of Malacca (Asia's geopolitical flash-point) search:
"Malaysian civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, whose agency is leading a multinational effort to find the Boeing 777, said more than 1000 people and at least 34 planes and 40 ships were searching a radius of 185 kilometres around the last known location of Flight MH370. No signal has been detected since early on Saturday morning, when the plane was at its cruising altitude and showed no sign of trouble.
Mr Azharuddin said the search includes northern parts of the Malacca Strait, on the opposite side of the Malay Peninsula and far west of the plane's last known location. Mr Azharuddin would not explain why crews were searching there, saying, "There are some things that I can tell you and some things that I can't."
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysian-airlines-plane-how-can-a-jet-just-disappear-its-not-hard-20140311-hvh7a.html#ixzz2vcmZJQIQ"AP now reporting "Malaysia Airlines says west coast of country now the focus of search for missing plane"
Makes a hijack scenario more likely in mind, AfPak, Xinjiang, possibly Iran within fuel range.
Check this out from 2010 report of terrorism in that region (plane search)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/03/04/us-malacca-threat-idUSTRE62335...
Ok, so they worry about ships and terrorist west of Malaysia, so a plane being hijacked, or a "pilot" flying in that direction is not beyond the realm of possibility.
Asia is a mess, there is a cold war and arms race (subs, planes) by every country you can think of in that region. A powder keg ready to blow with islands, shipping lands and territorial disputes all running at the same time. But of course the whole world is Roman empire with it's bread and circuses...all is well.
Were there any Navy SEALs on that 777?
If someone or some group did it wouldn't they take responsibility for it?
Nobody takes responsibility for anything anymore
Why should terrorists be any different?
Did I understand this correctly? Nobody knows who these alleged "Iranians" are, but the Zionist MSM already have found a "friend", who also knows what they wanted to do, while the NSA doesn't? And I'm the Kaiser of China.
"Whilst it's too soon to speculate of any connection, it is of great concern..." (Zionist CNN).
Any questions?
Non Stop is a movie of something that might have happened.
I sort of think it was shot down by accident; by a military maybe China. And, now it is being covered up.
Damn, all my gold was on that plane. Lost at sea.
Probably just an accident. And lots of fake passports in the world.
News shows seem to have plenty of time to provide an endless supply of "talking heads," all of them eager and willing to give their speculation on what happened to this "lost" 777. Yet not one major network or cable news show will allow anyone to discuss the possibility that the 9/11 commission report is a cover up. Talk about censorship and unofficial secrets acts in place in the no longer free United States. Who else was a passenger on that Malaysian jet besides those guys with bogus passports? In other words, was there someone on board who had enemies willing to smoke a passenger jet to get that person? Looking back, TWA flight 800 was a lifeguard flight that was medically transporting a heart or two and corneas for transplant patients. No news stories about that back in 1996, although urban legend is that the heart transplant patient died waiting for his heart. I think this flight went down in the jinxed "Dragon's Triangle" area of the South China Sea due to severe clear- air turbulence. Turbulence that stressed out a defective wing. That is just a guess but it fits the facts. As does a shootdown by a military jet equipped with jamming equpment to block the 777's communications prior to firing on the jet.
No one believes this story outside of New York.
Die Hard 7. Flew south over the Indian Ocean. Landed off the grid somewhere in Iran. Repainted and stashed for future use as a dirty bomb. The clock is ticking. Can John McClane find and steal the plane before it gets to its final destination, Tel Aviv?
Isn't Iran the country that has been "3 month away from having the bomb" for the last 20 years?
A new clan of bedouins rides into town every 3 months, their bound to get it right one of these days.
who were the FIVE that didn't board.... of more interst to me than 2 iranians... what about their luggage.... who of import was on the plane? did a bomb go off earlier than scheduled? what is the background on the pilots? who, when, where was the last maintenance performed. why a U turn? but no radio. why search NORTH of the last point of contact knowing the plane was heading SOUTH after that turn?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idU...
Malaysia military tracked missing plane to west coast
(Reuters) - Malaysia's military believes a jetliner missing for almost four days turned and flew hundreds of kilometers to the west after it last made contact with civilian air traffic control off the country's east coast, a senior officer told Reuters on Tuesday.
In one of the most baffling mysteries in recent aviation history, a massive search operation for the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER has so far found no trace of the aircraft or the 239 passengers and crew.
Malaysian authorities have previously said flight MH370 disappeared about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for the Chinese capital Beijing.
"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the senior military officer, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.
That would appear to rule out sudden catastrophic mechanical failure, as it would mean the plane flew around 500 km (350 miles) at least after its last contact with air traffic control, although its transponder and other tracking systems were off.
The next thing to check is what, if anything, was picked up by radar in Northern Sumatra after the plane flew out of range of Malaysian radar. Next stops after that are the Maldives and Diego Garcia, and there's a heck of a lot of places to look (with very deep water) between Sumatra and the middel of the IO.
If it made it out that far and then crashed into the ocean, it will be dumb luck at this point if its ever found.
Anybody looking from the angle of MOTIVE? Who would benefit from this?