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Mysterious Iranian "Mr. Ali" Purchased Tickets For "Stolen Passport" Passengers; Paid Cash

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While the mystery builds over the still officially unexplained disappearance of Malaysian flight MH370, or just who the two passengers with "stolen" passports may have been although we expect a revelation on this issue shortly, the FT has added yet another twist to what is sure to be a conspiracy thriller for weeks to come: the paper reports that the Thai travel agent who booked the tickets for the men in question said that she had been asked to arrange the travel by an Iranian contact. Adding to the confusion is the revelation that originally the mysterious Iranian, known only as Mr. Ali, tried to reserve seats for the two men on separate flights not to China, but to Europe, one on a Qatar Airways flight, and the other on Etihad. And the punchline: a "friend" of Mr. Ali's paid for the tickets in cash.

The story as explained by the Financial Times:

Benjaporn Krutnait, owner of the agency Grand Horizon Travel in Pattaya, Thailand, said the Iranian, a long-term business contact who she knew only as “Mr Ali”, first asked her to book cheap tickets to Europe for the two men on March 1. Ms Benjaporn initially reserved one of the men on a Qatar Airways flight and the other on Etihad.

 

But the tickets expired when Ms Benjaporn did not hear back from Mr Ali. When he contacted her again on Thursday, she rebooked the men on the Malaysia Airlines flight through Beijing because it was the cheapest available. Ms Benjaporn booked the tickets through China Southern Airlines via a code share arrangement.

 

A friend of Mr Ali paid Ms Benjaporn cash for the tickets, she said, adding that it was quite common for people to book tickets in Pattaya through middle men such as Mr Ali, who then take a commission.

 

Mr Ali could not immediately be reached for comment on a Tehran mobile number provided by Ms Benjaporn. She added that she had known Mr Ali for about three years, during which time he spent a lot of time in Pattaya and booked travel for himself or his contacts at least once a month on average. There is no evidence that Mr Ali knew the two men were travelling on stolen passports.

Still, before some read into this as an attempt to provoke Iran sentiment, the travel agent said she "did not believe Mr Ali was linked to terrorism, particularly as he had not specified booking the Kuala Lumpur-Beijing flight but had instead asked for the cheapest route to Europe." Ms Benjaporn said she was speaking about the case because she was concerned over the speculation about a terrorist attack and wanted the facts to be known.

And the final wrinkle in the story came over the weekend, when China Southern, a codeshare partner for the Malaysian Airlines flight, revealed on its Weibo page the following (google translated):

Today, Malaysia Airlines MH370 lost contact is shared by a horse fly with China Southern Airlines flight code. According to preliminary statistics, there are seven Southern Airlines passenger market square, where a Chinese nationals, two Ukrainian nationals, an Austrian, an Italian nationals, a Dutch nationals and one Malaysian. Specific circumstances still verification. After the incident, I immediately started emergency procedures and first time to contact MAS obtain real-time information. For seven passengers on the plane lost contact, we will try to help Malaysia Airlines to do follow-up work.

Two Ukrainians?

So one mysterious accident, which by now appears to almost certainly be a midair "disintegration" that has loose ends linking both Iran and Ukraine? A very unfortunate set of completely unrelated coincidences, or something far more sinister? We expect the full "story", massaged as it may ultimately be, to be revealed in the coming hours.

 

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Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:21 | 4531469 Shizzmoney
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Unless it was the Uighur Muslims in China (the group who committed the group knife attack last week), who'd probably want to be a bit more coy about their operations as the Chinese govt is cracking down on them as it is.

Where the fuck is the plane?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:23 | 4531483 JohnG
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At the crash site.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:25 | 4532767 mjcOH1
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"Wouldn't a terrorist organization already have taken credit for this?"

 

That depends on whether they're publicity hounds or are goal oriented.

Maybe it was a trial run.   Maybe they took credit, but not publicly.   Maybe there was an 'or else' involved. 

Maybe it was an accident.

Lots of 'maybe's out there that will eventually be answered, as they always are.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:45 | 4531628 papaswamp
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It had a Romulan cloaking device... They just can't figure out how to shut the damn thing off....

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:49 | 4531651 KnightTakesKing
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Same fate as United 93.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:47 | 4532209 Tall Tom
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If the Uyghurs are Sunnis then it would make sense that they were involved. From what I have read they were Sufis. 

 

Thanks for that insight and connection. I failed to connect that incident with today's revelations. Not anymore.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:23 | 4531485 Winston Churchill
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Multiple ones.

I haven't seen anyone comment on the timing of this tragedy.

Within hours of China coming out for Russia over Crimea.There are no coincidence in (geo)politics.

Maybe I'm getting too paranoid in my old age , but everything that others had ascribed

in me as  paranoia has turned into fact over the last 15 years.

Maybe I neede a bigger tin foil helmet .

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:50 | 4532223 Tall Tom
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Gold Foil Hats work better.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:17 | 4532338 Yes We Can. But...
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Anecdotally, aluminum foil get the job done, affordably.  A while back, I chatted with a guy at Starbucks, who has been hanging around for years, always with a hat on and foil covering his left ear.  I inquired about the foil.  He explained something to the effect it keeps the messages out.  Said the messages didn't enter the right ear.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:27 | 4532783 mjcOH1
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You should have told him you were pissed about the foil, so you came to deliver the message in person.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 11:14 | 4534307 layman_please
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fools, tin foil is cia misinfo. it actually amplifies the signal.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:20 | 4533223 Reckonball
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I fashioned mine from an old hubcap,with a leather chin-strap...works good,as far as I can tell...but it don't stop the "voices"..

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:17 | 4531453 Bastiat
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Now we need a pristine Syrian and a Crimean passport found floating off the coast of Vietnam.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:30 | 4531528 homiegot
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I think that can be arranged.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:35 | 4531564 Seize Mars
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Like on 911 how they found the trrsts' passports in the wreckage. LO fucking L.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:45 | 4531626 Bastiat
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Two of them found on the beach 100yds apart in Ziploc bags.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:14 | 4531836 Tim_
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And then the owners can appear on television to report that they are alive and well, but their passports were stolen.

The jewish media will continue claiming that all of the men are dead.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:00 | 4532259 saints51
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If you can get people to pay taxes and invest in 401k's, then you can get people to believe anything.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:17 | 4531454 Deathrips
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The Russians and Iranian terrorists caused the bankers to steal all the wealth of the west...and leave them with debt.

See....i can lie too.

 

RIPS

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:28 | 4531888 Ifigenia
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it is not a lie, is just an half thruth

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:18 | 4531458 Shizzmoney
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That sounds like, "Mr CIA"

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:28 | 4531512 Protokletos
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What's the play for the CIA?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:30 | 4531891 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Simple. We want to send the Chinese on their own "war on terror" goose chase. We want to distract them from bringing it on with Japan.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:53 | 4532235 Tall Tom
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Bingo.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:18 | 4531460 AmericasCicero
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Is Benjaporn something about the Fed I dont want to google?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:20 | 4531467 alien-IQ
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Let's not get too excited here:

Malaysian authorities said fake passports are actually quite common in that part of the world, used by people trying to illegally immigrate from one nation to another. When an Air India plane crashed in Mangalore in 2010 en route from Dubai, with the loss of 158 lives, as many as 10 fraudulent passports were recovered.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:27 | 4531507 Bosch
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Points will be deducted for common sense & not blaming it on the Jews. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:30 | 4531531 LFMayor
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plus 100 man.  If you had only worked in contrail theory, you might have made the all time greatest hits!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:51 | 4531661 Ifigenia
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common sense dictated that the subprime crime that robb us more than a few trillions dollars should charge as least a few dozen criminals.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:14 | 4531802 Bosch
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The hell does that have to do with a union made flying tin can death trap spiraling out of the sky? 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:38 | 4531928 Ifigenia
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subprime crime cause a crisis and the crisis let to printing money, printing money let to the world to abandon petrodollar, abandoning petrodollar let to wars, covert first than overt ones.

And made flying tin can spiralling out of sky is part of covert war. Specially those thin can full of people of those country that want to abandon petrodollar.

Ask the banksters, they probably finance it.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:07 | 4531749 Johnny Cocknballs
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That's cute.  Blaming Israel is blaming "the Jews" therefore racist therefore totally wrong, right, Hasbro?

 

Go fuck yourself

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:46 | 4531957 Johnny Cocknballs
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Dear junkers: your tactic was exposed because it is obvious. Try harder.

Now, go suck a bag of dicks.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:42 | 4533305 yochananmichael
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go suck a dead jew gods cock

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:28 | 4531514 greatbeard
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>> Let's not get too excited here:

Spoil sport.  This is not the venue for level heads.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:00 | 4531703 Wizard of Ozman
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How many of those ten passports purchased tickets with cash thru a third party, from an Iranian over the phone, named Ali? Just Saying, I bet alot were paid with cash, but Iranian ali not so much. 6.06

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:21 | 4531468 pods
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Probably just a plane crash and this stolen passport thing was a rock meant not to be uncovered.

It does sound a bit like the guy who tried to light his nuts on fire though.

pods

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:00 | 4532005 tip e. canoe
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more than a bit.   wonder if Mr. Ali is related to the well-dressed Indian gentleman?

Kurt and Lori Haskell, both bankruptcy lawyers, told the Daily News they saw a sharply dressed Indian man in his 50s - who did not get on the flight - trying to talk an Amsterdam gate agent into letting the suspect board Northwest Airlines Flight 253 without his passport.

The Haskells, who were playing cards on the floor near the Northwest check-in desk in Amsterdam, say they saw Abdulmutallab, 23, with an escort who was arguing with the gate agent.

"He said, 'He needs to get on this plane, but he doesn't have a passport.' The ticket-taker said something like, 'You can't board without a passport.' The Indian man said, 'He is from Sudan, we do this all the time,'" said Lori Haskell.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/michigan-couple-claims-nigerian-terror-suspect-board-flight-253-passport-article-1.432413#ixzz2vazssjHP
Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:21 | 4531474 BabylonDeer
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Oh really?, an Iranian terrorist who calls from Iran, tell the agency that he's iranian and even do that twice, so the girl remember him, common....

Somebody is trying really hard to desestabilize the whole world.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:24 | 4531482 Bastiat
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They want a war and and they want it now.  Beware the WMD (Weapons of Mass Deception).

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:24 | 4531491 Johnny Cocknballs
Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:54 | 4531674 Ifigenia
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Israel even discover an iranian ship full of wmd to be deliver to Gaza, just a few day agoes.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:22 | 4531480 l.kimbot
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Thinking "Yellow Cake"

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:24 | 4531492 Cygnus Nigri
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Angel food or Nigerian?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:00 | 4532004 Uncle Remus
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Would not the latter tend to lead to the former?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:56 | 4531683 Ifigenia
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Dick, Dick Cheney had already eat it in his last anniversary. With cherry on top

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:23 | 4531486 Z_End
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Whoever is writing this script obviously writes for the TV show NCIS... Moronic on all levels...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:25 | 4531497 SgtShaftoe
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Sick.  Who murders innocents, kids?  Well, usually governments are only capable of such depravity and horrifying acts of murder.  Hopefully we'll learn the truth about who is responsible. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:28 | 4531517 homiegot
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The truth? Sure. How much you wanna bet a "terrorist' did this?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:26 | 4531501 homiegot
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I didn't know Muhammed Ali was still getting around. Good for him. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:33 | 4531547 LFMayor
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Well, things went fine until the pilot, overawed by the celebrity's presence in the cockpit, foolishly allowed Mr. Ali to sit in his seat and take the yoke...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:03 | 4531715 LFMayor
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I think I know the identity of our serial junker.  It can't be Howard Cosell, he's dead, so it must be that other prominent member of the International Twitchy Persons League,  MICHAEL J FOX!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:27 | 4531503 SubjectivObject
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I tell's ya cash is bad stuff.

We needa sic the Gment on it.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:27 | 4531506 Protokletos
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Does anyone know if there is any credence to the story that the plane actually began to turn around before it went off radar?  I have a good feeling this is nothing more than a scary-as-shit midair disintigration.  

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:12 | 4531762 BadLibertarian
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There was an early report sourced from China that said the plane turned from heading 024 to heading 333 and descended rapidly before disappearing off radar. The only place that information has appeared, to my knowledge, is here:

http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

"Aviation sources in China report that radar data suggest a steep and sudden descent of the aircraft, during which the track of the aircraft changed from 024 degrees to 333 degrees. The aircraft was estimated to contact Ho Chi Minh Control Center (Vietnam) at 01:20L, but contact was never established."

That info could be interpreted as the plane either turning around or turning towards Bangkok. Or there may be some other data out there that hasn't been reported which was the basis for that speculation.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:03 | 4532274 Tall Tom
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That can either be interpreted as a 71o or 309o turn. That is not a 180o turn.. That suggests a problem with the rudder.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:40 | 4531937 smacker
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I recall reading a comment on www.flightradar24.com on Saturday that MH370 had made a sharp turn immediately before disappearing off radar. FR24 say they have good radar coverage in that area: https://www.facebook.com/flightradar24

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:28 | 4531509 NOTaREALmerican
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Come on.   Two Ukrainians hijacked that plane.   

They are going to fly them into a building unless we invade the wrong country.  

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:28 | 4531511 Johnny Cocknballs
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Off topic, but can we expect an investigation of just who the snipers were in Kiev a couple weeks back?

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:43 | 4531617 Bastiat
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I do wish the Russians would catch some mercs for questioning.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:24 | 4531864 gatorengineer
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you really think they were Mercs?  I have a nice bridge to sell you....  Choice A) CIA, B) Mossad C) combined op.  ochams razor is usually right who had to the most to gain by throwing out a pro-russian elected government.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:25 | 4531866 gatorengineer
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you really think they were Mercs?  I have a nice bridge to sell you....  Choice A) CIA, B) Mossad C) combined op.  ochams razor is usually right who had to the most to gain by throwing out a pro-russian elected government.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:25 | 4531867 gatorengineer
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you really think they were Mercs?  I have a nice bridge to sell you....  Choice A) CIA, B) Mossad C) combined op.  ochams razor is usually right who had to the most to gain by throwing out a pro-russian elected government.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:38 | 4532153 Bastiat
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Doesn't matter, does it: CIA or CIA contract (merc).

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:05 | 4532286 Tall Tom
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US Navy Seals???

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:02 | 4532014 Uncle Remus
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Loose ends. Your talking about loose ends.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:44 | 4531620 Winston Churchill
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Long gone ,or more likely dead by now.

Either way, no truth to be had.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:49 | 4532460 Hulk
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right after we figure out who shot Kennedy...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:28 | 4531515 Stinko da Munk
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Mr Ali could not immediately be reached for comment on a Tehran mobile number provided by Ms Benjaporn.

 

I think I speak for all of us when I say that comes as a surprise.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:29 | 4531520 PacOps
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"So one mysterious accident, which by now appears to almost certainly be a midair "disintegration""

If so, at 35,000 ft one would think a debris field would be evident. None yet seen.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:35 | 4531551 LFMayor
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Evident over a couple hundred square miles maybe.  It's not like kids TP'd your house and it mixes in nicely with all those flip-flops still corking around after that 2008 toliet flush tsunami.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:46 | 4531636 PacOps
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Yeah - and with the satellites, aircraft and ships involved - even with the debris found at sea "normally" now - funny still nothing.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:37 | 4531925 Gert_B_Frobe
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When the shuttle broke up over Texas they found stuff fairly quick, albeit flat Texas vs Ho Chi Forest is a bit different.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:07 | 4532030 PacOps
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Yes - triple canopy. Still finding MIAs and aircraft from the 60s and before.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:31 | 4532796 mjcOH1
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""So one mysterious accident, which by now appears to almost certainly be a midair "disintegration""

If so, at 35,000 ft one would think a debris field would be evident. None yet seen."

 

Yes, you would think there'd be a debris field if it went down in pieces.

So the logical conclusion is it went down largely intact.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 00:42 | 4533552 PacOps
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If intact, why then no radio contact? We will find out soon enough. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:09 | 4532040 Max Cynical
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I'm starting to think they'll find the wreckage in the jungles of southern Vietnam.

The current search area is only 150 miles southwest of the tip of Vietnam... an airliner traveling at 500+ mph will cover that in about 20 minutes.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:30 | 4531523 Tsunami Wave
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SCMP: Warning of 'possible terrorist attack on China' received by Taiwan days before Malaysia Airline Jet Vanished:

http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1445314/warning-possible-terrorist-attack-china-received-taiwan-days-malaysia

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:35 | 4531563 Ifigenia
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SCMP is a chinese paper controlled by the commies.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:49 | 4531975 Tsunami Wave
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Isn't the same true of just about any newspaper from any country?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 19:26 | 4532568 Ifigenia
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is diferent. In China the government control the media, here in the West, the City WallStreet control the governments and the media.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:30 | 4531526 ronron
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lookout, cheney's hunting again.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:33 | 4531553 SubjectivObject
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Submarine to air missile.

Just following orders.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:03 | 4532015 Tim_
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Ben Zygier: Benjamin Netanyahu adds to mystery


"Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, deepened the mystery surrounding the suspected Mossad agent, Ben Zygier by firmly rejecting reports he had 'contact' with Australian intelligence before his arrest."

"Israel has tried to hush up the case and conceal the man's identity."

"Zygier, who held Israeli and Australian citizenship, was identified by Australia's television network ABC last week as a Mossad agent who was found dead in his high-security cell in Ayalon Prison in Ramla, near Tel Aviv, in December 2010. It said he had been incarcerated 10 months earlier."

"The network later reported that he had betrayed top secret Mossad operations to the Australian domestic intelligence agency, which had become aware of his Israeli intelligence work after he made multiple passport applications under different assumed names."

"'The deceased was found hanging in the shower of his detention cell, with a sheet around his neck tied to the window of the bathroom,' stated a document released by Rishon LeZion magistrates' court."

"Entry to the cell was monitored by cameras, she said, and examination of footage showed no one 'intervened in causing the death'."

"Zygier was found dead despite being supposedly subject to round-the-clock surveillance from in-cell cameras."

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 19:30 | 4532581 Ifigenia
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the dual citizenship owners are dangerous. They could easily kill or get killed despite being subject to round-the-clock surveillance from cameras.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:35 | 4531561 BadLibertarian
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If these passengers were in fact booked on the cheapest fares available, then I would have to agree that it's less likely they were involved in whatever happened.

To take advantage of an open cockpit door, you'd think that the bad guys would want to sit as close to the front of the plane as possible, not in coach. It's not impossible that someone could make a move from back there, but I think it's far less likely.

Either way, I wish the PTB would release the seat assignments.

Also, WTF is the P-3 Orion doing searching the Malacca Straight right now? If anything has a decent chance of finding this wreck under 200 ft. of water, it's that assest, and for some reason it's searching hundreds of miles from the most likely area where the plane might be.

http://www.stripes.com/news/navy/uss-kidd-joins-uss-pinckney-in-search-f...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:47 | 4531641 Ifigenia
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If the terrorists master join the search what could be the result?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:55 | 4531679 PacOps
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Same distance - different direction ... but the Malacca Straight, being one of the busiest and crowded waterways in Asia, someone would have surely seen something or was hit by debris. Yeah WTF?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:21 | 4531845 BadLibertarian
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They would also have had to cross the Malay Peninsula to get there, which you'd suppose would have brought them back into the range of land based radar. So unless someone thinks they flew nap of the earth in the middle of the night without anyone seeing or (more likely) hearing it happen, I have no idea why anyone would be searching in that area.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:45 | 4531952 Ifigenia
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is time for the empire to dot some bases there to fight terrorism.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:14 | 4532319 Tall Tom
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Bombs are just too easy to smuggle aboard jets...even with security.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH6GpXAXmx8

 

ALL MATERIALS WERE PURCHASED AFTER GOING THROUGH THE SECURITY CHECKPONTS AND BEFORE BOARDING AN AIRCRAFT.

 

Even a small Bomb will sever Hydraulic Lines and make a Jet inoperable if the Jet does not pop like the Pressurized Metal Balloon that it is.

 

Enjoy flying and know that your TSA keeps you safe. /sarc

 

LMAO.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:36 | 4531566 Van Halen
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I just hope that no matter how this plane was destroyed and how it may or may not have been linked to stolen passports, that DHS finds a way to keep us safe. Preferably by taking away our what remaining rights they left us with. A tax should be levied on anyone who works and the money should be distributed to the poor or better yet to rich politicians and their business interests.

Perhaps Obama could order that more police departments be armed with not only those armored vehicles, but jet fighters and rocket launchers too. Because you can never be too safe. And it's for the children.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:49 | 4531648 Ifigenia
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and every person under 30 must board a plane nake.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:59 | 4532936 lotsoffun
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van halen - you forgot drones.  drones should be watching everything over the sky from every angle of every inch of america.  google and facebook probably have the computing power.  i feel much safer now.

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:36 | 4531567 youngman
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I agree there has to be something floating somewhere...or they turned back and hit land....wierd..its just wierd..and all the directors and writers in Hollywood cant wait to get the script going..

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:10 | 4531770 PacOps
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At 35,000 feet they'd be able to travel another ~100-120 miles (far enough to reach the coast of Vietnam). Depending on the speed of the aircraft, it would take at least 15-30 minutes to reach the earth (or sea), giving them ample time to make a distress call. Throw in this weird stuff with the fake passports, and now reports that the plane apparently had attempted to turn back, and this makes me think something pretty sudden and catastrophic must have happened, and mechanical and/or pilot error seems unlikely in this case.

 

 

 

On Monday, China's state-run media blasted the Malaysian government's rescue efforts, arguing that initial reaction from the country "was not swift enough." Currently, at least 45 ships and 22 aircraft from nine countries, including the U.S., China, and more, are partaking in a joint multi-national rescue effort.

 

http://www.fastcompany.com/3027462/fast-feed/with-malaysia-airlines-flig...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:49 | 4531977 Ifigenia
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 "at least 45 ships and 22 aircraft from nine countries, including the U.S., China, and more, are partaking in a joint multi-national rescue effort."

 

These crowded situation could broke out in a fight and spark ww3 to the content of those banskers.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:31 | 4532396 Yes We Can. But...
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What would be an appropriate title for the movie about this event?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:23 | 4533235 lakecity55
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Close Encounters of Some Kind.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:23 | 4533232 lakecity55
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I expect the aircraft to show up in a speilberg movie, in the desert with the people onboard, unaged.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:37 | 4531569 GIABO
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Was Marvin Bush's company running the security at the airport in Malaysia? Nevermind, I am thinking of 9/11... Im such a dumby....

 

sarc/

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:40 | 4531601 autofixer
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No it is generally a .gov operation these days and we all know that it is so much better. <sarc>

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:37 | 4531573 tokengator
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"Families seek information

According to China.org.cn, 19 families have signed a joint statement saying that their family members' cell phones connected, but the calls hung up. The relatives have asked Malaysia Airlines to reveal any information they might be hiding, seeking an explanation for the eerie phone connections. The relatives have complained that the Malaysina Airlines is not responding as actively as it should.

Angry family members also threw water bottles at an MAS spokesman and threatened to protest in front of the Malaysian embassy in China if the airlines did not "disclose" the "truth"."

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:39 | 4531595 LFMayor
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Mistah Prezzry NO here.  You no call back!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:28 | 4531884 sschu
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If true then the cell phone connection is huge.  Like I saw on another thread, find the transmitting cell tower and the plane (or phone at least) is not far away.

Very odd.

sschu 

 

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:37 | 4531578 Van Halen
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How long before some Democrat tool comes out and blames Republican obstructionism for the loss of this plane? We need more programs! And more government regulation! To protect the HOMELAND!!

Shelter in place, you maggots!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:40 | 4531596 Ness.
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We didn't start WWIII today, whew.  3:30 ramp capital is full throttle (as usual).  Crisis is over for today.  Better luck tomorrow guys.  

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:57 | 4531689 Jorgen
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Crisis is over for today.

Gold and silver have been down so, I guess, all is good. No crisis at all...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:51 | 4531982 Ifigenia
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Putin must work harder

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:40 | 4531603 ZeroPoint
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Mr. Ali needs to stay away from tall buildings, nail guns, and cars made after 2001.

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:54 | 4531987 Ifigenia
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Mr. Ali could run or hide but could not  stay away from tall buildings, nail guns, and cars made after 2001. You know, is his nature

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:43 | 4531607 Van Halen
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How much do you want to be that this story is totally flushed down the memory hole in a week, and it's 24/7/365 sports/zombies/Kardashians again.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:45 | 4531615 Kirk2NCC1701
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Thanks goodness it wasn't a SAUDI! 

Can you imagine the 911-like blowback and escalation if it had been a Saudi?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:45 | 4531625 bigrooster
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And now we have the justification to invade Iran.  Mission accomplished.  My guess is that the two dudes on the plane knew too much and had to be taken out.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:47 | 4531627 williambanzai7
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This might come as a surprise to everyone, but Ukrainians go on vacations to Pattaya beach. I wonder why?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:50 | 4531654 McMolotov
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"BeaversPataya.com"

Because BeaverParty.com was already taken.

FYI, the tall one in the back probably has a wang.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:26 | 4531872 LFMayor
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the cheap drinks???

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:29 | 4531892 Kirk2NCC1701
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Careful, if you play Pat-a-cake, you may get beef-cake, rather than cheese-cake.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:53 | 4532472 Hulk
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crocodile dundee check most always prudent...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:31 | 4532118 PacOps
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Ahh ... LBFMs. Not everyone WB. BTDT circa 60s & 70s.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:38 | 4532423 Yes We Can. But...
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I was in Thailand once.  Crossed into Malaysia, checked into a hotel.  Sitting in the lobby, and old guy approaches, asks if I want to see some girls.  I'm a curious guy, so I said sure, so he takes me to this building.  We walk in, long narrow building, lined with females on both sides, just waiting for some business.  Two more buildings, same thing. 

The women in those buildings looked like zoo animals that wished they were dead, looked *nothing* like the ladies shown above....

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:55 | 4532480 Hulk
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Hopefully there is a special corner of Hell reserved for that old guy and all like him...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 19:39 | 4532607 Ifigenia
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now i understand why those protesters in Maidan Square were fighting so hard.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:46 | 4531635 Karl von Bahnhof
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NSA watch Benjaporn.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:47 | 4531640 Rising Sun
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wake the CIA the fuck up - there's some exterminating to do again

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:51 | 4531659 rete
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Mr Ali is people smuggler. But Mr. Ali's customers are now swiiming with fishes in South China Sea instead of starting their new lives in the EU. Hope his payment terms were 100% upfront; no refunds or rescheduling allowed. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:51 | 4531663 JimmyRainbow
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it has the smell of a steamcooker, ucrainian nationals programmed for something stupid. it worked before.

heard they are cooking meals on the plane in that part of the world

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:51 | 4531664 Karl von Bahnhof
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And do not forget the bad bad Cash!

By today, the whole western free-demonocracy turns into nothing else that bad sick joke.

Hedge accordingly.

Dollarum delenda est!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:58 | 4532001 Ifigenia
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what more could we do? the banksters had stole everything else and left us the morbid sarcasm, because they dont joke in their jobs.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:52 | 4531668 tony wilson
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mr ali A

 

 

YER DON'T CIA SAY

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:11 | 4531779 flight77
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No joke:

This night, at 2 a.m. a flight took off from Kiev.
On board: All 38 tons of Ukrainian Gold!!!

Transported by heavy armed people in dark uniforms from the vaults of the Ukrainian National Bank. With permission of the unelected Interim Bankster PM of the Ukrain. For safety reasons. To protect the Gold from evil Putin, who never tried to confiscate even one ounce of Ukrainian Gold.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:16 | 4531806 tony wilson
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your late cia,state dept with security  aegis uk and mossad assets started flying the gold out to usa usa last week.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:00 | 4532007 Ifigenia
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not to USA, but Germany to repay Angela

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:24 | 4531862 Aztec Warrior
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Didnt some Russian Ship with Gold disappear near the Russian Eastern coast ?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:31 | 4531903 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yeah... about a year ago, as I recall.  Was gold ore though, I think.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:42 | 4532176 Bastiat
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Got some support for that?  Not that it would surprise me a bit based on the historyof Iraq and Libya's gold.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:18 | 4531823 glossolalia
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I have an idea that should please the ZH nut jobs: blame Ben Bernanke. That way you get to blame the Jews AND your favorite boy toy!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:18 | 4532070 superflex
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Welcome to fight club.

Now go fuck yourself!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:18 | 4531824 Aztec Warrior
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Where was the connection booked by prince Ali fron PEK heading into Europe?

It could be that 2 asylum seekers were using stolen passports to make their way to Europe.

The Beijing airport would definitely have had more security than Kuala Lumpur.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:23 | 4531855 f16hoser
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It's simple really, think about it... No trace in the water. Not even a Seat Cushion. This plane landed somewhere in Vietnam. Why you ask, simple really, this plane was heading to China which means it had something of VALUE in the cargo bay. Perhaps something like.... wait for it... Drum roll... GOLD BULLION!!! Time will tell...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:27 | 4531875 dojufitz
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Ticketa bought by a Mr Mitbe bomonbord....

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:28 | 4531879 Quantum Nucleonics
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Here's what happened...

The plane likely lost electrical power and crashed largely intact.  This particular triple 7 recently clipped its wing on a A340.  There was probably some key damage to the electrical system they missed.  Had there been a fuel tank explosion ala TWA-800 or a bomb, the aircraft would have hit the water at high speed and broken up, creating a large debris field which would have been found by now.

Mr. Ali and the stolen passport guys had nothing to do with it.  Mr. Ali is very likely a people smuggler.  He's paid to get people from Africa and/or the Middle East to Europe.  He probably goes through Thailand because stolen passports are easy to come by and knows they don't check the Interpol database there.  If it were a suicide bombing, someone would have claimed responsibility

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:56 | 4531994 Bennie Noakes
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Not so fast! How do you know that the crash wasn't caused by an electromagnetic "event" that happened while the plane was passing over an uncharted island? Were the numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, or 42 in any way associated with the flight?

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:01 | 4532010 Debugas
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is the Lost Island real ?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:36 | 4531921 q99x2
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We never had these problems before Rumsfeld and Cheney knocked down the World Trade Centers and Banksters and Globalists took over the Federal Government.

Arrest the globalists.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:15 | 4531960 One And Only
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I explained my theory to family and friends almost right after this plane crash happened...so get your conspiracy hats on....

1. The timing of this was very suspicious - right as the Ukraine and Russia are in full military mobilization mode.

2. No terrorist organization has claimed credit (a hallmark of terrorist acts)

3. It happened over water...not into a city or over a city (terrorists like to take out as many as possible...the news coverage of chaos adds a multiplier component to the mission)

4. It was almost immediately known that people on the flight were using fake passports - uhhh since when is that common practice? Multiple people on the SAME FLIGHT. Don't intelligence operatives use fake identities to travel?

- It's clear especially after the sniper incident in Kiev that there were foreign antagonizers to the Ukraine rebellion. If you noticed a lot of those "protestors" had gas masks, were equipped, and planned. It's extremely hard to successfully defeat a military without in-depth knowledge on how to wage a gorilla style insurrection. These weren't moms and dads.

- Putin EMBARRASSED the US with Syria AND Snowden....so we have motive (revenge). Overthrowing the pro-Russian Ukrainian government and installing a pro-west puppet government.

My theory is that the CIA was trying to send over operatives to the Ukraine...for funding or whatever the fuck they do to help overthrow governments. However....Russia has Snowden and Snowden knows who every single intelligence agent is. So the Russians knew there were people on that flight who were going to be a problem.

Wasn't it just discovered that the Ukraine and western governments were infected with a sophisticated virus thought to be of Russian origin? Don't airplanes rely on....computers? Kinda weird how it turned around mid flight with no distress signal huh?

Also...is it common for  US Naval battleships to participate in foreign commerical airline crashes? I don't know the answer to that but I can't recall that being standard operating procedure from my memory....unless there were US intelligence assets on the flight.

If my conspiracy theory is true... I can assure you it will not be broadcasted on your teevee by CNN. Perhaps we'll never know the truth on this one but it stinks to high heaven.

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