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Mysterious Iranian "Mr. Ali" Purchased Tickets For "Stolen Passport" Passengers; Paid Cash
While the mystery builds over the still officially unexplained disappearance of Malaysian flight MH370, or just who the two passengers with "stolen" passports may have been although we expect a revelation on this issue shortly, the FT has added yet another twist to what is sure to be a conspiracy thriller for weeks to come: the paper reports that the Thai travel agent who booked the tickets for the men in question said that she had been asked to arrange the travel by an Iranian contact. Adding to the confusion is the revelation that originally the mysterious Iranian, known only as Mr. Ali, tried to reserve seats for the two men on separate flights not to China, but to Europe, one on a Qatar Airways flight, and the other on Etihad. And the punchline: a "friend" of Mr. Ali's paid for the tickets in cash.
The story as explained by the Financial Times:
Benjaporn Krutnait, owner of the agency Grand Horizon Travel in Pattaya, Thailand, said the Iranian, a long-term business contact who she knew only as “Mr Ali”, first asked her to book cheap tickets to Europe for the two men on March 1. Ms Benjaporn initially reserved one of the men on a Qatar Airways flight and the other on Etihad.
But the tickets expired when Ms Benjaporn did not hear back from Mr Ali. When he contacted her again on Thursday, she rebooked the men on the Malaysia Airlines flight through Beijing because it was the cheapest available. Ms Benjaporn booked the tickets through China Southern Airlines via a code share arrangement.
A friend of Mr Ali paid Ms Benjaporn cash for the tickets, she said, adding that it was quite common for people to book tickets in Pattaya through middle men such as Mr Ali, who then take a commission.
Mr Ali could not immediately be reached for comment on a Tehran mobile number provided by Ms Benjaporn. She added that she had known Mr Ali for about three years, during which time he spent a lot of time in Pattaya and booked travel for himself or his contacts at least once a month on average. There is no evidence that Mr Ali knew the two men were travelling on stolen passports.
Still, before some read into this as an attempt to provoke Iran sentiment, the travel agent said she "did not believe Mr Ali was linked to terrorism, particularly as he had not specified booking the Kuala Lumpur-Beijing flight but had instead asked for the cheapest route to Europe." Ms Benjaporn said she was speaking about the case because she was concerned over the speculation about a terrorist attack and wanted the facts to be known.
And the final wrinkle in the story came over the weekend, when China Southern, a codeshare partner for the Malaysian Airlines flight, revealed on its Weibo page the following (google translated):
Today, Malaysia Airlines MH370 lost contact is shared by a horse fly with China Southern Airlines flight code. According to preliminary statistics, there are seven Southern Airlines passenger market square, where a Chinese nationals, two Ukrainian nationals, an Austrian, an Italian nationals, a Dutch nationals and one Malaysian. Specific circumstances still verification. After the incident, I immediately started emergency procedures and first time to contact MAS obtain real-time information. For seven passengers on the plane lost contact, we will try to help Malaysia Airlines to do follow-up work.
Two Ukrainians?
So one mysterious accident, which by now appears to almost certainly be a midair "disintegration" that has loose ends linking both Iran and Ukraine? A very unfortunate set of completely unrelated coincidences, or something far more sinister? We expect the full "story", massaged as it may ultimately be, to be revealed in the coming hours.
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A couple of thoughts FWIW...
The time of useful consciousness at 35K is 30 to 60 seconds.
There only a few reasons to account for the aircraft turning back...explosive decompression or a fire would necessitate a rapid decent to lower altitudes. A steep (75-90 degrees) left or right decending turn would help unload the wings and provides for a quicker decent.
Also, if the cockpit was breached, the pilot may prefer to perform a manuver such as a steep wing over/decent to throw a highjacker off balance.
"There only a few reasons to account for the aircraft turning back...explosive decompression or a fire would necessitate a rapid decent to lower altitudes. A steep (75-90 degrees) left or right decending turn would help unload the wings and provides for a quicker decent."
Not a pilot and don't understand how that all works but wouldn't there have been a distress signal in that situation?
And to the second thought - Aren't the cockpits reinforced? You can't just stroll up in the cockpit anymore can you? Also - if the cockpit was being "breached" I'm assuming there would be a distress signal unless you can just break it down with your shoulder real quick and take control.
Aviate, navigate, communicate...in that order.
Whatever happened up there was catastrophic and didn't allow time for a distress call.
If the NSA can watch me jerk off in real-time than something needs to be added to commercial planes where we can figure out these incidents without locating some box at the bottom of the ocean.
"Also, if the cockpit was breached, the pilot may prefer to perform a manuver such as a steep wing over/decent to throw a highjacker off balance."
Maybe the pilot or copilot capped his coworker and brought it down.
Saves the trouble of breaching the cockpit.
No suicide note left before the flight? No public message released?
He was a quiet boy.
So is Lois Lerner
Absolutely routine for military craft to be involved in search and rescue operations. In fact, who the hell else? Nothing unusual in this whatsoever. This is a multi-nation search.
Last plane crash that resembled this was Air France flight 447.
Not one US battleship was involved. In fact...not one US Naval vessel was involved.
It should be noted that some US Naval equipment was involved (a sonar array towed behind two french ships). A US Naval P-3 Orion was also used shortly, though that was just a maritime patrol aircraft searching for possible survivors.
No US Naval battle ships.
I see one flaw in your theory. Bath House Barry uses a fake PP to travel, and he is a politician.
(or is he......?)
C'mon. This guy just books flights. He didn't tell the travel agent which flight, just the cheapest flight. He wasn't part of any plan, that is completely obvious. However he might be making his nut by running illegals to various EU countries. Likely guilty of being a slime ball, but that's about it.
average cost to get to Europe from Iran by a people smuggler is around US $23000
Might be a good business with enough volume.
So, you ae a smuggler, then?
How much to get me to Dubai with a new PP?
I agree with you.
The Mr Ali story looks like a distraction. It's unlikely he had anything to do with the plane's disappearance.
And even if the two passengers allegedly travelling on stolen passports were the target of some sort of terror plot by "persons unknown", it would have taken a lot of detailed planning by the perps to bring it off. Apart from that, the apparent lack of any co-ordinated plan by Mr Ali to get them on that specific flight suggests thy're just a couple of shady people.
I'm beginning to think this incident has nothing to do with terrorism. IMO the plane either suffered catastrophic mid air break-up caused by structual problems OR it collided with another airborne object of some sort.
Are not those aircraft Glued together and made of carbon composites?
Perhaps there is a fatal design flaw here and soon they will all start dropping like flies.
Glued together?
I don't think so. We're talking here about a B777-200 which is/was 15+ years old.
Perhaps the only clue might be that it apparently had some wing damage a while back.
Since no one and nothing is believable now days, we will never know what really happened.
Whatever really happened will be covered up and/or milked to high treasonous levels.
"The only truth is that everything is a lie."
I too am calling bullshit on this one.
I bet it turns out to be just a typical illegal immigration scheme with stolen passports.
You don't seem to mind losing bets.
that just blew up at an inconvenient time!
"the Thai travel agent who booked the tickets for the men in question said that she had been asked to arrange the travel by an Iranian contact. Adding to the confusion is the revelation that originally the mysterious Iranian, known only as Mr. Ali, tried to reserve seats for the two men on separate flights not to China, but to Europe, one on a Qatar Airways flight, and the other on Etihad. And the punchline: a "friend" of Mr. Ali's paid for the tickets in cash."
Of course, the "Iranian" proved without a doubt that he was Iranian (with a passport? a forged passport?) when he bought those tickets because there's absolutely no country in the Middle East or close by that would be willing to kill innocent people to frame Iran with a terrorist act if it even was a terrorist act, right? And since the two passengers had phony passports, the "Iranian" who bought their tickets couldn't possibly have had a phony passport, too, right? And smart people don't use forged documents when carrying out a terrorist attack, right?
Jesus H. Christ, wake up and smell the coffee, people.
I hope Tyler doesn't mind this.
I posted it earlier.
A popular Spanish economics blogger says
a major U.S. software firm, with China-
based operations, lost a major part of
its brain trust.
http://www.eleconomista.es/internacional/noticias/5606157/03/14/Loss-of-...
There were possibly people just engaged on board. Somehow I've the feeling with democracy and cooperation there'd be fewer of these.A fewer of these what? Engagements or lost brain trusts??
(Just generally--who knows what happened...)
If it were just democracies cooperating
instead of the division that comes from
you be like me no you be like me,
then rulers wouldn't be profitably ending
our habitat by taking advantage of
people's weaknesses and the paranoia
that comes from that very process.
But we know from Man With The Golden Gun
that the QE sank in Hong Kong harbor
under mysterious circumstances
(1973? Francisco Scaramanga?,) so
life isn't all that different today.
Negative Rates:
I hope you found my reply beneath yours.
If I put this beneath yours, my own gets
too separated from my original.
I'm probably outta here for today though.
Bye.
Trust nothing you read or hear and only half of what you see!
http://www.haaretz.com/news/britain-issues-israel-travel-warning-amid-ex...
Businessman alleges Canada gave Israeli spy new identity
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/02/15/businessman-alleges-canada-gave-isr...
Israeli spy may be using Cdn passporthttp://community.pearljam.com/discussion/68952/israeli-spy-may-be-using-...
Officials at Foreign Affairs are investigating reports that a suspected Israeli spy is travelling in Asia on a stolen Canadian passport.
Zev William Barkan was reportedly last seen in Pyongyang, North Korea, after travelling there from Beijing. He is allegedly using a stolen Canadian passport issued under the name Kevin William Hunter.
Foreign Affairs spokesman Reynald Doiron says officials are trying to piece together information from diplomats, intelligence liaisons and police.
"We are checking the information. We know some of the answers but not all of them and we are determined to get to the bottom of this," he says.
Barkan, 37, is wanted by police in New Zealand for his alleged role in an espionage scandal there.
What a bullshit piece of misdirection.
Start with the flight manifest.
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/mas/master/en/pdf/Malaysia%2...
http://www.eleconomista.es/internacional/noticias/5606157/03/14/Loss-of-...
The 20 Freescale employees, among 239 people on flight MH370, were mostly engineers and other experts working to make the company's chip facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur more efficient, said Mitch Haws, vice president, global communications and investor relations.
...
"These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people," Haws said. "It's definitely a loss for the company."
...
Top-quality engineers are hard to come by for chipmakers and other technology companies, and losing them can have a major impact on business, regardless of their seniority.
...
Yes in that field there is something like 10,000 people in the entire world employeed who can do that type of engineering.
You might to take a close look at who OWNS freescale semiconductor and some of what their projects are. Let's just say sometimes accident's happen in the name of protecting 'national security' project secrets or in this case things could be a lot more malevolent. Think Logan's Run.... and add in Michael Hastings and Barnaby Jack for good measures.
http://www.marketvisual.com/Profile?eid=1d9ba08a-ffb4-47c6-9dc2-ec9b48b7...
That wasn't necessarily what I had in mind but if anyone wants to research it further.
http://media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=...
AUSTIN, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 1, 2006--Freescale Semiconductor announced today the completion of the merger of the company with an entity controlled by a consortium of private equity funds led by The Blackstone Group and including The Carlyle Group, funds advised by Permira Advisers LLC and Texas Pacific Group.
...
If anyone wants shine lights on the current individuals by all means of course. Let's see how crazy with the bullshit and misdirection that is blown through the msm and certain supposedly alt media outlets as the truth spotlights intensify.
Thanks!
"Freescale stock will cease to trade on the New York Stock Exchange at market close today and will be delisted. Under the terms of the merger agreement entered into on September 15, 2006 and adopted by Freescale's stockholders at a special meeting on November 13, 2006, Freescale stockholders are entitled to receive $40 in cash for each share of Freescale common stock that they hold."
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The dateline also is very telling.
Its most likely a crime thing not terrorism
It sounds like they were both Iranians trying to flee to Europe using fake passports
Synagogue of Satan bitches.
But but but..."Shalom", and shit.
Don't you know that the Israelis are only about Peace? How dare you question this narrative.
Nothing is as it seems. The false flags are so glaringly obvious, it almost makes one appreciate the level of conditioning imposed on the American public. Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Netanyahu, et al are probably even in disbelief at how well their plans have worked...
www.TopTheNews.com
FALSE FLAG (Blame Iran)! FALSE FLAG (Blame Iran)!
FALSE FLAG (Blame Iran)!
FALSE FLAG (Blame Iran)!
FALSE FLAG (Blame Iran)!
FALSE FLAG (Blame Iran)!
FALSE FLAG (Blame Iran)!
FALSE FLAG (Blame Iran)!
Dick Cheney was duck hunting in Thailand with SAM.
Mike Rogers (yes NSA CISPA FISA ) This week ABC pulled the classic " you smelt it you dealt it"... 10b Aegis contract HFY 10 Billion. You better hope the Sniper took cash.. Poppy, Bubba, Dubya, Obozo, Bibi...... all war criminals.
Johnny " Israel would be the 51st state except they would be limited to two Senators" Ray McGovern
Kerry at APIAC not Ukraine.
USA USA USA
History reminder this happens to fascist ( pay attention Likud and Neo-cons.... )
http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/197706/mussolini-hanging-lamppost-along-c...
Ut ohes. Seems at least one Hasbara Trooper has arrived in an effort to try to sway the narrative.
I wonder what the wage is in the Hasbara Battalions or if they believe so strongly in "the cause" that some work as unpaid interns.
Gosh, I know I am not the only one mourning our lost opportunity to enrich our slave masters by going to war in Syria. I just want to thank our false flag brethren for giving us the huge opportunity to kill our sons and daughters in another foreign war. This time one big enough and strategically placed enough to cover up the loss of the petro dollar.
Thanks MIC, Fed, .Gov and all the other folks who have brought us this excellent chance to implement Agenda 21 on a worldwide basis.
"Achmed! We made it! We are on the airplane with our built-in body bombs!"
"Praise Allah, Ali! Our bombs are set and cannot be turned off! The infidels will get a big bang out of this!"
"Yes, like a kick from a horny camel!"
"You are getting me in the mood, Ali," (stroking his hand).
"Yes! perhaps we can slip off to the bathroom. Look at the petty sky..."
"Wait- The sun is in the wrong place. Stewardess! Where are we headed?"
"China, sir."
"Ali! We are on the wrong air-----------"
It's Asia, Jake. It would be suspicious if there WEREN'T some illegal funny business going on with the flight. In the Shia world, "Mr. Ali" is the equivalent of "Mr. Smith" in the US. No reason to assume that the passports were part of a terrorist plot. Or that "Mr. Ali" was even Iranian.
Of course, anything is possible. But there wasn't anything about the flight that would make it attractive to terrorists (other than lax security). So I favor the "equipment malfunction" theory at this point.
A tragic event.
But, a surface to air missile can obliterate a plane in flight, particularly over an ocean.
China, Vietnam and India all trigger happy in our cold war redux
Korean Airlines Flight 007, shot down by Russian missiles 1983
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
"Nothing was found by the joint U.S.–Japanese–South Korean search and rescue/salvage operations in international waters at the designated crash site or within the 225-square-nautical-mile (770 km2) search area.[73]
Looks like a good story is unfolding....fake passports in Asia are as common as cheap hookers....let's not get too carried away here folks...
as anyone else found trouble with this site ???? slow or just blank screen ??
The US military uses dolphins to find mines in the water. So why can't they be used to find plane crashes at sea?
This is obviously a refined version of the same weapon that brought down the World Trade Centers.
Find out where Cheney and Rumsfeld were at the time the plane disappeared and you'll find your answer.
FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO WAR AND DICTATORSHIP
US allocates $429 million to Iron Dome program
Israel Hypes Nonexistent Iranian Threathttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idU...
Malaysia military tracked missing plane to west coast(Reuters) - Malaysia's military believes a jetliner missing for almost four days turned and flew hundreds of kilometers to the west after it last made contact with civilian air traffic control off the country's east coast, a senior officer told Reuters on Tuesday.
In one of the most baffling mysteries in recent aviation history, a massive search operation for the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER has so far found no trace of the aircraft or the 239 passengers and crew.
Malaysian authorities have previously said flight MH370 disappeared about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for the Chinese capital Beijing.
"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the senior military officer, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.
That would appear to rule out sudden catastrophic mechanical failure, as it would mean the plane flew around 500 km (350 miles) at least after its last contact with air traffic control, although its transponder and other tracking systems were off.
...
At the time it lost contact with civilian air traffic control, the plane was roughly midway between Malaysia's east coast town of Kota Bharu and the southern tip of Vietnam, flying at 35,000 ft.
The Strait of Malacca, one of the world's busiest shipping channels, runs along Malaysia's west coast.
Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper quoted air force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the plane was last detected at 2.40 a.m. by military radar near the island of Pulau Perak at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca. It was flying about 1,000 meters lower than its previous altitude, he was quoted as saying.
There was no word on what happened to the plane thereafter.
The effect of turning off the transponder is to make the aircraft inert to secondary radar, so civil controllers cannot identify it. Secondary radar interrogates the transponder and gets information about the plane's identity, speed and height.
It would however still be visible to primary radar, which is used by militaries.