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Isn't It Ironic: Mt.Gox Hacker Demands Ransom From Exchange Users To Not Reveal Their Personal Data
The bankruptcy of the once largest Bitcoin exchange may be history, but now the real drama begins.
First, over the weekend, allegations surfaced that not the whole truth may have been revealed during the heartfelt announcement by Mt. Gox CEO, Mark Karpeles, who claimed that $400 million in Bitcoin were stolen by hackers. As Forbes reported, hackers took over the Reddit account and personal blog of Mark Karpeles, to reveal that the exchange he ran had actually kept at least some of the bitcoins that the company had said were stolen from users.
"It’s time that MTGOX got the bitcoin communities wrath instead of [the] Bitcoin Community getting Goxed,” wrote the unidentified hackers, referring to the multiple occasions over its three year history when Mt. Gox has gone offline, delayed trades or suspended withdrawals, events so common that Bitcoin users coined the phrase to be “goxed”–to suffer from Mt. Gox’s technical glitches.
In addition to merely allege, however, the hackers provided proof:
The hackers also posted a 716 megabyte file to Karpeles’ personal website that they said comprised stolen data from Mt. Gox’s servers. It appears to include an Excel spreadsheet of over a million trades, a file that purports to show the company’s balances in eighteen difference currencies, the backoffice application for some sort of administrative access to the databases of Mt. Gox’s parent company Tibanne Limited, a screenshot of the hackers’ access to those databases, a list of Mark Karpeles’ home addresses and Karpeles’ personal CV.
In the hackers’ summary of Mt. Gox’s balances in various currencies, they point to a claimed balance of 951,116 bitcoins, which they take as evidence that Mark Karpeles’ claim to have lost users’ digital currency to hackers is fraudulent. “That fat fuck has been lying!!” a note in the file reads.
It remains unclear at this early stage in the MtGox bankruptcy if indeed Karpeles ended up Madoffing some or all of the Bitcoin entrusted to him: Forbes notes that "the Bitcoin community has been puzzled by the apparent lack of movement of Mt. Gox’s bitcoins since the company declared bankruptcy last month. Despite stating that it lost 850,000 bitcoins in total in its bankruptcy filing, Bitcoin experts haven’t seen the movement of those coins in the Bitcoin blockchain, the public ledger of transactions that prevents fraud and forgery in the Bitcoin economy."
But second, and far more important, "a user on the BitcoinTalk forum posted a message–since deleted by the forum’s moderators–claiming to be offering for sale a 20 gigabyte stolen database from Mt. Gox, including the personal details of all its users and even scans of their passports. “This document will never be elsewhere published by us,” wrote the user, who went by the name nanashi____. “Selling it one or two times to make up personal loses from gox closure.” The hacker asked for a price of 100 bitcoins for the database, about $63,600 at current exchange rates."
An updated announcement by user "nanashi" can be found in the following pastebin, in which he explains just how much it will cost naive Bitcoin traders to retain their anonymity. The price to put this entire gruesome episide behind them: 0.25 bitcoin, or a little over $150.
Mt. Gox database sale: steps to remove yourself from dump before sales.
Most around here know we are selling gox customer info. Many have contact us requesting to pay to have their data removed before we sell. We are doing this for a cost of 0.25 BTC per person removed. We have already sold and release 20% of data to 2 buyers, so if you are apart of that it's too late for you.
We are release the rest of this data to our buyers sometime this week, so after that happens it is too late for everyone who has not been removed already.
1) Email nanashi___@freemail.hu with the email you used with mtgox.
2) I will check file already sold, if you are not part of that I will send you unique bitcoin address. If you don't get response it means your data has already been sold in first batch or we have finalized sale of all data.
3) After you have sent .25 bitcoin payment, email us again to inform us of this.
4) Thats all, we will delete your personal data and passport scan from all copies of database.
DO NOT email asking to do this for cheaper unless you are doing 10+ accounts at once. Also do not email us asking to confirm what information we have about you. If gox had it, we have it, and as you can read on boards we have confirmed possession of this dump for many people. We let you use our same email for this as all other gox hack communication so you know we are same people. Doing this things will cause us to ignore all further message from you.
nanashi
And to think - the whole point of Bitcoin once upon a time (long, long ago) was to preserve the anonymity of the users... Oh, and the "money" was safe and unhackable...
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ahhh, the smell of fresh tulips in the morning. take a whiff.
Damn, Just when I thought - aren't we overdue for a Bitcoin article
fonestar is on the case.
I hear you can kill werewolves by shooting them with bitcoin bullets
No, you kill bankers with bitcoin bullets.
The San Fran Fed in its Currency Exhibit used to show all American currencies to the present, including a future digital currency. ZH has this post archived (I couldn't find it, so please show link if you have it).
At this point, that exhibit appears to be updated with no digital currency shown.
Curious.
I wrote this Philosophic Couplet - "I decide what money be, and what is worth how much to me!" Everyone on earth believes the same thing in their own minds.
Nice. I wish everyone on earth believed that - too much "schooling" for many to overcome
The bottom of the lake I store my silver and gold at never requires a ransom.
Someone please explain to me how this is any worse than the hack at target?
Also, why did they have all this personal information? Because the were forced to "know their client" so you had to go through all the bullshit to take out 100 bucks.
I think I am calling it quits. Phone man is getting on my nerves
You came to a Bitcoin thread.
YOU come to most of the other ones
You need an ISP and a computer...and companies?
That's called COUNTERPARTY RISK.
No... that is called A PARTY!
if we have to put up with phoney bring back the banned and let us manage to endure them as well. why spare us from the others and continue to encourage phoney to punish? perhaps a thread devoted to the forbidden and how that fits the framework of Fight Club?
Goldfinger is a cold finger.
HAS ANYONE HAD THEIR PHYSICAL GOLD COINS HACKED THROUGH A DDOS ATTACK YET?
Yawn... Yea, top this you stupid bitch:
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/experian-sold-consumer-data-to-id-theft-service/
Bitcoin identify theft is for chumps. The real shitheads go after the credit companies.
Isnt the slow and entertaining demise of Mt.Gox prove that bitcoin as a currency is dangerous for the average person who is not a professional hacker? Arent all digital currencies vulnerable to hacking and other such nefarious activities by real anonymous people? Ill stick with my gold thanks
You can get a wallet and a small amount of bitcoins within a few minutes but with relatively low security. The "average person" should never have a significant amount of bitcoins on an exchange in my opinion. If you are looking to put a significant portion of your wealth into bitcoin you really need to study up on cold storage and paper wallets. I think it will take some major improvement in the ease of use in both purchasing and securing of bitcoin for the average user to get on board.
"Ill stick with my gold and YellenBux, thanks"
Fixed it for ya.
Your safe with bitcoin as long as you BUY lot's of BITCOIN and keep an off-line wallet, and only use that BITCOIN to go shopping forever.
But if you ever choose to GET CASH $$ out of BITCOIN, then you need to go to an exchange, and then you will be Fone-Fucked and hard.
So pray tell how are vendors supposed to flip their SHITTY-BITCOIN into real money the same day they ship product.
Me thinks there are TWO types of EXCHANGE's, one for vendors and the other for little fuckers who want to lose their money.
Let's see when overstock gets fucked and hard and told they lost $100M USD in Bitcoins and see how long they stick around.
My guess is that BITCOIN.ORG is very careful about NOT fucking the VENDORS and only fucking those WHO bring cash to the table.
Sounds like a Ponzi scheme, does it.
Actually, it sounds(ok, reads)like satoshi101.
Most of these things in the Morisette song are not ironic at all. Rain on your wedding day is not ironic, it is just rain. It would be ironic if you were a weatherman predicting no rain on your wedding day and then have rain.
It is a good song though. Especially the last line: "life has a funny way of helping you out, of helping you out"
Bitcoin was never designed to be anonymous. You watch too much mainstream media.
Am I the first to shout ALANIS!! ??
Hint for those who don't understand: she's in the picture
Yeah, saw that. She played the York County Fair last summer but it rained.
bit coin never claimed to be anonymous
its not the point of digital currency
Yeah buddy, its all going to be fixed now. The CFTC to the rescue of the Ponzi, insecure, non-anonymous, FIAT, crypto-derivative btc.
http://rt.com/usa/united-states-bitcoin-regulation-226/
I think tulip bulb trading would still be around if the CFTC had been there to help.
Fonestar - a bitcoin fool
"He is feeding all the trolls ("zeroheads") there without losing energy and enthusiasm"
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"FoneStar is the troll"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470593.0
"When the derps over at Zerohedge start upvoting Fonestar, sentiment may have flipped. Water still safe for Bitcoin bulls – BrotherJohnF"
http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/archives/33428
“That fat fuck has been lying!!” ..... Hmmmm, history never repeats?
We should all create accounts at bitcointalk and go in there and tear some shit up.
Not a bad idea.
Those kids won't know what hit them.
First order of the day is withholding pocket money if you ask me though. Let's see what happens if they are cut off.
Fonestar is probably BrotherJohnF. That guy was always a buttcoin shill. I hope he gets his ass handed to him.
Just straight analysis of Fonebar's yak today - he got ripped off. His ass is currently on a camel in Mali, getting ready to work in the gold mines for a sheikh. His shitcoins have vanished, and honestly, I hope Akak got 'em, cashes them out, and buys gold with the money.
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But bitcoin hasn't been hacked, destroyed or collapsed... In fact the price has been moving up the last few weeks.
You can't take extraplote Mt. Gox's failure as Bitcoin's failure, or even less crypto-currencies in general. The genie is out the bottle and it's not going no where anytime soon so you old-timers better get used to crypto-coins'. All this hatin' s getting old.
And those Mt Gox victims TOTALLY deserved it. Mt Gox was well-known shady as fuck and obviously operating on fractional-reserve. Just think of it as a dumb tax, natural selection at it's best.
"Just think of it as a dumb tax"
In the upper brackets are we?
Okay Mr. Jones, let me know when it's your turn to drive so I can get off at the stop before that.
that's "extrapolate," genius.
I keep telling you guys that Fonestar is Fontas.
why doesn't the NSA step up and do something useful with all its collected data... couldn't they recreate all the Gox transactions and find the "hacker"... ah, why do something useful with the data... you can not tell me NSA wasn't monitoring all the shitcoin exchange traffic... of course they were... because terrorists use this facility like tax avoiders and tax evaders and narcos and "innocent" people who wanted a safe haven for some wealth... maybe a properly crafted foi act subpoena would work.. if i lost a cent to this bullshit i would persue it... but then again i never TRUSTED the human factor involved in shitcoin anymore than people trust the FED.. or the big brother government.. and when the "founder" of an allegedly - "good for mankind" wealth protecting tech product wants to remain anonymous ... something smells bad.... plus the NSA can hack anything anytime they want... it may take a little time, but no one has a stopwatch on them any how.,.. think your encryption is hack proof... ask the founder of PGP about being held without charges and interrogated without an attorney... unitil he agreed to give access via backdoor to the NSA... land of the free and home of the brave...
The only way to rid this forum of this prick is to never, under any circumstance, respond to his posts. Shun him like an Amish slut.
Maybe we can get MoveOn.org to run a petition to ban Fonsy and his trollbots from ZH...
pepsi builds more reliable junk bitchez
I must have hit a wrong key combination and landed in the childrens section of ZH. Aren't there any adults here anymore?
Dude, most of us ARE adults. We'll act like children if we want to.
Yeah, what the penguin said!
Yeah, what the penguin said! Because twice is nice.