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The Tanks Are Coming While Russia, US "Remain At Odds" Over Ukraine
With Interfax reporting that Belarus has begun full-scale military drills in a "readiness check", images from Russia and Ukraine suggest the worst-case scenario - that Russia is making preparations to invade Ukraine, not just Crimea but perhaps as far west as Kharkiv, or even beyond - is more possible. Talks have broken down:
- *LAVROV SAYS RUSSIA, U.S. REMAIN AT ODDS ON UKRAINE: INTERFAX
- *LAVROV SAYS RUSSIA TO RESPECT `WILL' OF CRIMEAN PEOPLE
Russia now has a massive force of tanks, troops, artillery, aircraft, and naval forces in position to potentially invade mainland Ukraine from Crimea in the south, but also from positions east and north of Ukraine.
Lavrov adds:
- *LAVROV SAYS RUSSIA TO RESPECT CHOICE MADE AT CRIMEAN REFERENDUM
- *LAVROV SAYS KERRY `DIDN'T THREATEN RUSSIA WITH ANYTHING'
- *LAVROV SAYS WESTERN SANCTIONS WOULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE
And subtley poitning out the hypocrisy:
- RUSSIA'S LAVROV SAYS IF KOSOVO WAS A SPECIAL CASE THEN CRIMEA SHOULD BE A SPECIAL CASE TOO
Then Lavrov said this:
- RUSSIA HAS HAD AND CAN HAVE NO PLANS TO INVADE SOUTHEAST OF UKRAINE - LAVROV
Which seems to run counter to the following images pouring in from across Russia of even more firepower on the move.
Moving tanks Omsk, Saratov, St.Pete, more photos like that popping up. Expect full-scale intervention beyond #Crimea pic.twitter.com/ZsDoa8QUK0
— Fabian Burkhardt (@sanwaldinjo) March 14, 2014
And images suggest more to come...
And finally:
- *LAVROV SAYS `EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT CRIMEA MEANS FOR RUSSIA'
Which we suspect is why all the tanks are rolling
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This is like Cuba -62 "Hey Russia/East don´t f**k on our backyard", now Russia/East tells west "don´t f**k on our backyard".
I can't imagine Putin wanting to start a war against America or NATO. As strong as Russia is, the US is far more powerful, and Europe is still a paying customer of oil and gas. He must know something the rest of us don't, so he's getting ready for some future conflict. I still see Russia and China as acting defensively. Russia is setting up a buffer zone against western Europe, he gave SAMs to his allies in Syria and Iran, and China is setting up a buffer zone in the sea where its most vital shipping is.
This is starting to get scary because American media has turned into the kind of retarded propaganda seen in USSR. Someone clearly wants global warfare, and everyone is acting with that assumption in mind.
"Someone clearly wants global warfare, and everyone is acting with that assumption in mind."
The bastard "war hero" McShitstain wants it for sure:
Sen. McCain:
What's this We stuff, McTraitor? You got a mouse in your pocket?
I hope Vlad skullfucks you after some AQ cannibal eats the rest of you.
Of course Putin doesn't want a war. Does him no good, and a lot of harm. Europe still needs natural gas. There's been some delusional silliness that they could get the energy they need elsewhere but the infrastructure and supplies don't exist. Russia and China even more so have global power based on selling things people need, not military intimidation and coercion. All their interests are defensive in nature. Putin's military preparations are set against armed ideological insurgents who want to let NATO set up operations in Putin's front porch, not against NATO itself.
Exactly. Putin is protecting his interests and all of those troops, by the way, are on Russian territory, they are not in the Ukraine, except for Crimea which had previous troop agreements with Russia.
Without the presence of Russian troops in Crimea, there would have been extremely disastrous confrontations if Kiev sent tanks and troops to this Russian cultural area.
That’s the reason Russia went in; these people are in danger from these idiots who stormed public buildings in Kiev making targets of elected officials and banning formerly legal political parties in parliament. Without the presence of Russian troops in Crimea, Sevastopol would have been a war zone.
I say easier. U.S. presented to Putin an ultimatum: We want to kill the Russian as a state. But if you do not agree, there will be war.
Putin chose the second option.
Albert Pike 1871...
Putin is not the ones pushing it here. The West is provoking the situation. The West is the problem in the Ukraine. Putin is only doing what is prudent at this point. Russia cannot afford to let the West plant itself in Ukraine and take over the economy and use them as a base in Russia's back yard.
The US is not "that" much more powerful in military might. All it takes is one nuke and Russia has plenty of them. I can't believe the US is provoking this war. I think they want it and are just trying to be sure Russia is perceived as the bad guy. The only winners here will be the elitist bankers who sit back and drink 12 yr old scotch while the world burns itself down over bs and lies. When the smoke clears the banksters roll back out and pick up where they left off and everyone left thinks they (the banksters) are the white knights when in fact they caused is all to begin with.
There are powerful NeoconCrazies who think we can (and should) win a preemptive nuclear strike against Russia. Our country is largely controlled by madmen who pull the strings on their puppet, Obama. And yes, the NeoCrazies work for the Banksters. Their media has control over 80% of the American sheeple. We truly live in dangerous times. I thought syria a few months ago could lead to WW3. This one is just as dangerous.
Of course the immorality of a preemptive nuclear strike never discouraged anyone... Sadly.
More dangerous.
This time the threat is not in far off Syria, but on the Russian Border.
I'm hoping that "global warfare" will be financial and cyber warfare, which will be more than bad, but better than nukes. After all, the financial doom is in the script already. Russia, China, et al, will be just giving it a kickstart.
global warfare in 21st century is primarily bribes, racketeering, betrayals, assasinations and other cover-ops designed to overthrow national elites and put in NWO puppets to rule the nations
"As strong as Russia is, the US is far more powerful,.."
Oh, yes! Russia nuclear forces, could destroy all life on the planet with a 4x power reserve. But the U.S. and the EU together can destroy all life on the planet with 8 multiple power reserve.
Of course the U.S. and the EU, is more stronger, than Russia! LOL
Thank goodness someone sees the truth. So tired of hearing how the Ruskies are gonna crush us with their newfangled weapons our MIC haven't ever thought about the sinsiter su35 and tor whatever the hell.
OTOH what Putin's prepping for are the resource wars. And, the grand game redux. Whoever controls eurasia controls the whole world. Which is why it makes no sens to unite China and Russia. Unless of course, the NWO is the goal. Then, uniting C and R and disarming US rednecks makes all kinds of sense. I dunno, right now I see US backing down because of logistic reasons. Otherwise we're fighting a two front war (China will make it's move while we're distracted wtih Russia) with long supply lines against homegrown foes. Hard to win even with superior conventional weaponry.
More casus belli for NATO to plunge into Ukraine.
NATO can't get the green light until Russian trips over the red line.
NATO/EU/IMF/BIS want Russia to invade eastern Ukraine and hold everything east of the Dnieper.
The problem is the MTV crowd at western staff colleges have never fought a modern war against a modern opponent. Been killing hajis with 40mm Bofors from 20,000 ft. Been holding those joysticks a little too tight. Drones don't hold ground. That's the next evolution of warbots.
If everyone really wants to go full retard on this, then expect an asymmetric attack via that "missing" plane everyone is hysterically mystified by. At some point someone will figure out it got flown to Pakistan and refitted as a commercial flight and loaded with an EMP device and sent on a non-stop flight to the good ol' USA. As fantastical as it sounds, it's probability is now not zero. Maybe 0.01%. Wargame that Padawan.
Hard to fight WW5 when all your lights are turned off in the Homeland.
And why is any of this happening again?
Thanks a lot assholes.
"NATO/EU/IMF/BIS"?
the first is a military alliance, ok. that it wants to "invade eastern Ukraine" is new to me
the second is a trade alliance, as in "no tanks"
the third is a fund where the US is under siege to give in and let the BRICS increase their shares or "print" SDRs. China and Russia are members of the IMF, among other 180 countries
the fourth is the housebank of the world's top 60 national banks. again, look at it's membership
you are sure you don't belong to the MTV crowd, I suppose
Well put.
No way the BRICS will join a SDR regime controlled(by blocking vote) by the US.
No way the US relinquishes that blocking vote.
Putin has Crimea,he will leave the bankrupt shell of the Ukraine to disolve into civil
war before intervening further.At which point both NATO ,and the EU will be begging for
his intervention to stabilize their eastern members.
The Russians are renowned for their patience, and time is not on the West's side.
Nicely done Asst Sec of State Victoria (Nuland) Nudleman Kagan. You finally got those poor, innocent, defenseless people wanting to kill eachother while destroying their country!
Now, what is your next move you little adorable cutie?
Here's more involving the little cutie, from a recent Global Research article:
[1] The pro EU-US putsch regime in Kiev is a product of nearly 25 years of planning and enormous funding by political agencies of the US government. According to William Blum (Anti-Empire Report#126, 03/07/2014), the self-styled National Endowment for Democracy bankrolled 65 projects involving political indoctrination and the formation of political action groups. Under-Secretary of State Victoria Nuland boasted that the US government had spent over $5 billion dollars preparing the ground for the putsch in Kiev.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/obamas-ukrainian-power-grab-sanctions-and-the-boomerang-effect/5373036
I just get lost in her big blue doe eyes!
"Fxxk Asia" !
MH370 is a start.
Just heard Sen. Harry Ried plead for. $1 billion loan guarantee for Ukraine and said he has personal interest to pass $ 1 billion package because his father-in-law was a Ukranian Jew who fled Ukraine some 50 years ago.
He is now dead and he obviously can't go back to Ukraine so just what is rational for appropriating $ 1 billion that will be squandered by corrupt politicians ? Besides, they will need at least 30 billion which can never be paid back if country is divided as it certainly will be. Unbelievable nonsense coming out of Washington which makes you wonder how our foreign
policy is formulated.
Wonder what else Harry has delivered of our money and freedoms to benefit his wife and her people? Perhaps enough to keep him in power?
Well, ole Harry Reid is being protected by the DOJ in pretty much everything he does, thank you Eric Holder.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/13/fbi-blocked-in-corruption-probe-involving-sens-rei/
Of course the latest allegations that Pelosi is supplying him with young kids will never see the light of day except on fringe blogs. Sick bastard!
Pff Kosovo achieved independence, they didnt give up one overlord for another.
Yeah, right!!
Another tiny defenseless little country that must knuckle under to the U.S. empire with a garrison of U.S. troops there to guarantee its continuing "independence."
In the newspeak of the day, independence is another word for serfdom.
And BTW, nobody has come up with any reason why Russia would want to obligate itself to fund the Western Ukraine basket case. The U.S. wants Ukraine so that it can garrison the country and point NATO missiles at Russia from Ukrainian soil, making them the target in the case of war rather than France or Germany.
One must congratulate the rebel government of Ukraine for volunteering to become ground zero in any future nuclear war.
And of course the geniuses in charge of strategy in the U.S. have just provoked China and Russia to massively increase their defense spending.
As usual the only beneficiary for this sort of insanity and nation crippling chaos must be that nuclear armed suburb of New York City located on the eastern shore of the Mediterranean.
Kerry threatens Putin, won't ship Heinz products to Russia if Russia envades Ukraine, that will teach 'em.
Just read a mustard review. About six or seven different brands. Heinz came in last.
ketchup diplomacy
Kerry-Heinz is slo out of his bottled-in position.. Kerry gotta ketchup! ... .two weekend themes.
Anticipation...makin' me wait. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae6ofz3fgD8
Putin' on the Ritz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oacelnX3VSQ
I live just a few miles from the Belorus border. In my house, built in 1941, is a room with a hole dug under, not as a root cellar, but as a hiding place from bullets and shells. I do not want to clean it out and use it again.
Too good for a root cellar? sarc/
Please clean it out now. And then put a bunch of food and drink in it because, in war there are shortages of everything.
Have a garden, if you can.
I'm sorry that you do not understand. It does not matter what you personally want or do not want, Like all citizens of Crimea. The only important what Washington want.
Democracy is when your personal opinion or the opinion of different countries and peoples, coincides with the opinion of Washington.
Everything else, it's extremism, separatism and terrorism.
....thoughts and prayers my fight club brother, for you, your family and friends and every other innocent person potentially caught in the middle of this bullshit. I can't imagine the stress you must be under. Seriously, thoughts and prayers to you my friend.
Yes hope and prayers. And if you have to go down there...make sure there is a case of Vodka to greet you (every time).
Here we go, cheers if we can.
We see these all the time in the US. Quit being so alarmist, ZH! ;-)
If I was Putin I would do the same. How can you trust these Washington / EU neo-nazi's that go back on their promises as long as its in their favour. As Buffet once said, you cannot do good business with a bad person. In this case a bad/corrupt government.
Well it's certainly building up to be an exciting Purim this year.
It seems that this shit is escalating quickly...
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_14/US-drone-intercepted-in-Crimean...
"It was possible to break the drone’s link with its American operators with the help of the EW (electronic warfare) complex Avtobaza. As a result, the device made an emergency landing and passed into the possession of the self-defense forces almost unbroken."
LOL ! These guys are stupid. Especially when they take their silly virtual reality games for TRUE REALITY (for those confused, see P.K. Dick's definition of "reality").
When you make war by computer, all you need is one good virus and POOF... no more army !
Living one hack away from total defeat... what a great American concept !
Wait till they come to Texas....unless they nuc us first
I'm getting my first nuc in May.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuc
Achtung Panzer!
A most excellent read regarding the first war.
Transport them to the back of John and Teresa Heinz Kerry's european estate.
Some Russian Soldiers can knock on the door of the estate before they blow it apart.
last week the US sent a destroyer into the black sea - wonder if it will sink?
Starting to sound like the summer of 1914.
The Brits are pulling out all the stops by sending in their Prancing Fairies Regiment. Usually they are only deployed for domestic conflicts.
This is going to be ugly!
The White Europeans peoples, will be protected to the END of times...
Something else to add?!...
(•?•) ?_?
If this thing goes hot it's not gonna be like Iraq where we shot 45 year old ragheads with 20 year old shotguns driving around in the back of 20 year old Toyota pickup trucks.
Not to mention our army will fold like Rome's when the money became worthless. I wonder how hard it will be to hitch-hike back to New Jersey from the Russian front?
VIX-slam where is it when we need it.. not gonna buy one minute drop, i need a ath figures before trusting this ponzi.. your market seems untrustworthy if you keep on falling like this.. seems like russians are much more stronger than you.. this kerry guy looks like a horse, is he sick or something...
Veternarian on the way...word is been off his oats lately....
You mean Mc Anal, must be hard there streching buttocs all day long...hardliner?? wanting some more
A bit OT but:
Is Erdogan about to support Assad and thus Putin.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA2D12S20140314?irpc=932
Turkey, then Saudi reluctantly, will turn Eastward soon.
My guess is the Saudi Royals will be begging Putin for their lives. The shit these Saudi animals did to Syria will not be forgotten. I think things there are starting to spin out of control.
Qatar and Saudi Arabia are now at each others throats and they were the money behind the Syrian Al Qeada rebels. Something is going on there.
My guess is the Saudis are detecting real weakness out of Washington ie dollar failing. Saudi Arabia will be on it's own and Hezbollah aka Iran and also Shites in Iraq are ready to settle scores with Sunni Saudis.
The only thing that may save the Saudis if the dollar tanks is Putin. Putin probably has some pull in Tehran.
Eastern Saudi Arabia is a target rich environment.
Tanks for the memories...
From Russia with love.
V. Putin.
RUSSIA DESTROYS U.S. DRONE OVER CRIMEA AROUND 8 PM!
Reported moments ago by the French press.
No kidding? The US just can't wait to start fucking WWIII! WTF is going on in this world that we can start the overthrow of a govt, whip our dick out and shove it in anyone's face we want, and think there will be no consequences? Consequences the world will suffer.
Shit always starts on the weekend, huh?! Happy birthday to me. And I thought this year would be a happy birthday...so much for thinkin'. This will not fucking end well!
Looks like I'm spending my life-savings on hookers and blow this weekend.
The Queen sends in the black probe in the dead of night.
With all the trucks, tanks, planes, and guns on the Ukraine border, why doesn't Obama just lead an invasion of East Russian to annex? It's probably completely defenseless!
The optics don't work for the Queen and the other gals at the WH/State. ;(
Politicians' verbal gas means less than their intestinal gas, and both are VASTLY less important than NATURAL GAS.
The main switching and pumping stations are around Kharkov, and well outside outside Crimea.
If this is about GAS (and it is) then they will take it.
FWIW, Syria was the country who withheld permission for pipeline construction from Qatar to Europe. The pipeline already goes to their border, and Turkey already said yes.
Georgia had the Black Sea terminal of the Turkmenistan-Baku pipeline that was planned in 2008 to connect accross the Black sea to ...Ukraine. It is in Abkhasia. Except now Abkhasia is in Russia.
Russia is establishing an energy monopoly over Europe. If they succeed, Euro nations will dance to a Russian tune in all matters of consequence.
I can't wait for the Pussy Riot!
Unlike the USG, made up of whores, homos, and assorted criminals, the Russkies do not Fuck around.
You can happily take this big dick up your ass, Rentboy Queen, all by yourself.
We are definitely not behind you.
US Military: From a former soldier, you are taking orders from an Illegal Usurper of the US Presidency. Obey your Oaths.
Maybe also time to remember the transiberian pipeline story ?
"The efforts by the U.S. pressure to prevent the construction of the pipeline, and its export embargo of supplies for the pipeline (1980–1984) constituted one of the most severe transatlantic crises of the Cold War."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urengoy%E2%80%93Pomary%E2%80%93Uzhgorod_pipeline
Today what is the goal ? Bring Putin down ? Push the pipes towards China ? (remember the fields are more or less half way). What are Europe interests ? To follow the Eagle and that's it ?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Seal_of_United_States_Central_Command.png/768px-Seal_of_United_States_Central_Command.png
And don't forget the US are still NUMBER 1 net oil importer (or second behind China).
Barely balanced for gas, will NEVER be a major exporter if exporter at all.
The propaganda these days is really pushing hard, very hard on many different subjects.
See for instance (EIA data) :
http://resourceinsights.blogspot.fr/2014/03/ukraine-russia-and-nonexistent-us-oil.html
Some thoughts:
I have seen three Emergency Tests on TV this month. Seems high.
A colleague whose brother is in the armed forces sai very recently they were tested. The CO came in and told them they were going to war with N Korea. They were offered an option to opt "out". 1/2 of all present took this option. So half wouldn't fight given an option. I've seen other signs as well.
I would say this has been in the works; preparation for war. I would take the necessary precautions if I were you. Should this go hot, I can see the war being brought here unlike the past two big ones. Stay frosty.
Huh? Half told the CO they would not fight and would opt out? Is this like a loyalty test?
Coming here to the USA inside borders? Absolutely, I think it may happen this time. it is about time. I get so sick of the mentality of many conservatives and many other Americans where the first option is that we should go bomb people. Easy solution to everything. Bomb em. Well someday, maybe soon, someone will be bombing us.
They get all huffy and think I am a Ron Paul type. Guilty as charged. Ron Paul sounds like the Framers of The Constitution.
If you look at those railroad tracks, it looks like they are all ribbon rail with concrete ties. Extremely modern railroad engineering practices, to be sure.
Looks like Russia has been manufacturing some military equipment.
The escalation is too canny, it went from protests to riots to a slaughter of protesters to ousting a gov to military action. Something smells fishy.
If it's Friday, it's beer time.
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-intercepted-us-drone-over-crimea-arms-...
Doesn't the Queen understand that this could be used as an excuse to escalate by Russia?
What the hell is wrong with him?
Here's an interesting article on RussiaToday website about these US "Hunter MQ-5B drones, currently the largest and most advanced of their type" based in Germany:
"US opens drone facility in Germany, insists 'not for spying purposes'" (Published time: October 09, 2013 23:18)
Some nices pics of these "not for spying puposes" thingies at this link too. Enjoy ;)
Yazza says those friendly Russians!
Sends us some moar of that there fine American tax dollar paid for technology.
We will reverse engineer it and send some back to you next week after china reproduces them in the super rockofeller/rothschild slave labor factories.
Lol..stupid is...as stupid does.
And...does it get any nuttier?
Hummmm...you betcha samsonite!
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/14/the-malaysian-airliner-is-not-m...
No need to reverse engineer. Amateurs are building fairly sophisticated long range drone platforms.
Search for long range FPV on youtube for videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir_vfBTXM8E
S&P down (0.19), there is no pricing or positioning by the smart money except a little in gold.
Nothing is going hot, long OGZPY and maybe Lukoil too, 300% gain next three years.
those looks like images from the 1940s. geez.
wonder how ole barry's golf game is coming along.
Rufus Bamster has no concept of how powerful Russia really is. They probably have 30,000 tanks in deep storage, and all the petroleum needed to run them. When Russians go to war millions suffer and die.....
Yes, they tend to toss 500,000 troops at once along a single front.
Our Queen is either doing this on purpose to further weaken the country, or he and his cabal are utter stupid morons.
check out the cool old steam locomotive top left. wonder if it is still in current use?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM#t=128
Nuland's infamous hoof and mouth moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW1WDbDX7wE
Why is she sweating under questioning?
Reminder :
US oil :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_oil_bbl_US_...
US gas :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_gas_ft3_US_MZM_NONE_auto_M.png
UK oil :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_oil_bbl_GB_MZM_NONE_auto_M.png
UK gas :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_gas_ft3_GB_MZM_NONE_auto_M.png
Eurozone gas :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_gas_ft3_MZM_EU2_MZM_NONE_auto_M.png
Eurozone oil :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_oil_bbl_MZM...
China oil :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_oil_bbl_CN_...
China gas :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_gas_ft3_CN_...
etc ..
Forgot
Russia oil :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_oil_bbl_RU_...
Russia gas :
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_gas_ft3_RU_...
..
this could be the stupid moment in history for the western empires since rome, from caveman to ruler of the world for the last 500 years or so, like a candle in the wind, lol.
putin has to let the trapped rat escape to win. monday, putin will announce peace in our time, kerry will take a few photos with obama showing how they saved ukraine and the market rallies 300 points.....because the world knows who runs the world now.....and is happy about it.
Putin will draw the Queen's next red line on Monday.
Factory recall on Russian tanks?
coming soon to the southside of Chicago.
So let's see here. We have the Ides of March thing going on, plus full moon on Sunday just in time for the Crimean referendum vote. I don't know about you but i'm a little nervous.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sevastopol_%281941%E2%80%9342%29
ugly place to attack
Some of the pictures are on Google for two years now... The truth is first to die in a conflict,remember..?
and? anyone can post these...
Prison panet riot control that's all it is. Lockdown Section 176 crackdown.
Prison panet riot control that's all it is. Lockdown Section 176 crackdown.
And have a close look: some pictures are taken in summertime, the other with snow...hahahaaaa...!
Don't trees have leaves on them in Russia in the summer?
And have a close look: some pictures are taken in summertime, the other with snow...hahahaaaa...!
"China’s top envoy to Germany has warned the West against punishing Russia with sanctions for its intervention in Ukraine, saying such measures could lead to a dangerous chain reaction that would be difficult to control. “We don’t see any point in sanctions,” Shi said. “Sanctions could lead to retaliatory action, and that would trigger a spiral with unforeseeable consequences. We don’t want this.”
You know...like China & Russia dumping all their US Treasuries on the open market come Monday.
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-tiger-awakens-china-warns-of-r...
Meanwhile on Wall Street...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSujz7w4K8
China is fighting the worst loan bubble in the history of mankind and there's no reprive for them. Sanctions on Russia will just make matters worse for them. I don't need sanctions, I'm boycotting Russian and Chinese products anyway. As difficult as it may be.
Did Russia actually shoot down one of our drones?
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-intercepted-us-drone-over-crimea-arms-...
"Crimea and Western 'values'" 3/14/14 by Pepe Escobar http://atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-02-140314.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Others/Escobar.html
WARNING: must have a solid educational background in history... with ultra-empiricalist (pepe can bring you into the future from the present weaving in and out of the past without never knowing one left the ground ) journalistic skills to follow Mr. Pepe!!!
... perhaps, if not the leading geo-political/current-events investigative journalist in the entire 'FREE WORLD'!
jmo
thankyou Tyler
@ Re: comment on 1st page regarding Potsdam, Germany
Ps. Potsdam Conference for Truman was only to get the Russian's on America's side, declaring war on Japan. Truman wanted Stalin to sign-on. Stalin accepted... saying explicitly that Manchuria belonged to China. Truman was elated... but, the truth is that the S-1 (A-bomb's secret code name) was tested and ready to go just as Potsdam was being convened. The A-bomb was meant for Germany, but Germany had already surrendered unconventionally. Truman was devastated by the loss of U.S. servicemen in the Pacific Fleet under Gen Douglas MacArthur. Iwo Jima (Archipelago's) was a nightmare with 100k US force casualties... besides unimaginable losses to naval fleet! Truman was told that the Japanese would fight to the end and never sign an unconditional surrender.The war was projected to go on for six-months to a year... with an estimated 250k-700k US casualties. Those casualties were loss of life! Truman told Stalin of the A-Bomb, but remarkably it didn't surprise Stalin, for he had Russian spies inside the state department. Truman also didn't want the American's doing all the dirty work and later having Russia coming in and cleaning up the spoils if they had failed to declare war on Japan? Needless to say, Truman ordered the dropping of the two A-Bombs. Note: In the beginning of WWII, the American's actually wanted to fund the USSR, 100% to fight Germany for them in what is today called a proxy war!
Sun Tsu, The Art Of War, Deception: Parts 1.18-2.5. Says things like: "All warfare is based on deception" "When using our forces seem inactive" "If your opponent is of choleric temper seek to irritate him, pretend to be weak that he may grow arrogant"
Putin has of course read this and studied it. I guess we are not pummeling poor and unsophisticated tribals anymore.
From Russia with tank!
For the people who think nuclear armageddon is looming --
The bankers control Obama and Kerry.
Theyre not going to initiate a nuclear war where they themselves would get blown away.
They want to make MONEY, not die.
And to this end, they'll finance both sides of any conflict, same as always.
But the war will stay in Ukraine, and not come back to the USA, or to Russia.
Anyway, just thought I would take a moment to share these thoughts with you guys to calm some nerves...now back to stocking up on supplies and digging a bunker.
The banksters are settling in to their comfy bunkers on Pacific islands of paradise. They won't get nuked. The rest of us need to go long on shovels and concrete.
Quote "They want to make MONEY, not die." Unquote
There is no real money left.
Only mountains of debt left behind by these criminals who have accquired assets in strategic places and of course Goild & precious metals & jewels stashed away in submarines in the Artic
They need to bust the system to start all over again and this time holding the whip in their hand. And with fewer of us common fold around so control is easy.
Enough nuclear shelters around and enough clones around to take an official death.
Armageddon or the Great War of God Almighty doesn't loom. It sneaks up. On everyone. That's why it says to watch. Some aren't fooled.
i dont wanna be rude, but you should leave your troops at home, taking care the crippled after last wars you got..
I think that you just dont have money to do it... or the stomach.. gay president... my god, what happened to you..
Russia's drone program was a huge scandal, as billions were wasted on a private developer who delivered non functioning crap. Thus Russia was forced to begin again to develop modern drones. By bring this one in for a landing, they jumped a decade ahead and are reverse engineering like bloody mad this very minute. Most people don't know that the old USSR was famous for buying technology of all types using third party buyers and then bring the stuff to Russia where huge reverse engineering departments tried to copy. The World War II USAF B-29 was fully reverse engineered by their aviation industry and the Red Airforce fielded a goodly number of perfect copies. This is a long tradition, now also followed by the Chinese.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/447464.stm
The Russians never bought anything from East Germany. They came, they dismantled, they put it on trains and trucks and shipped it to Russia. Entire factories were stolen by the Russians. Their R&D was virtually not existent without large scale IP theft.
the russians bought a lot of stuff in the west through such noted pillars of capitalism as armand hammer later known for his exploiuts with qaddafi.
this is right off the DOD website-
Aircraft Carrier Extends Operations in Mediterranean Sea
By Army Sgt. 1st Class Tyrone C. Marshall Jr.
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, March 14, 2014 – The aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush will remain in the Mediterranean Sea a few days longer than originally scheduled, a Defense Department spokesman said here today.
A liberty boat departs the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush to take sailors to Antalya, Turkey, March 9, 2014. The carrier is on a scheduled deployment supporting maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of responsibility. U.S. Navy photo by Petty Officer 1st Class Eric S. Garst
(Click photo for screen-resolution image);high-resolution image available.
Army Col. Steve Warren told Pentagon reporters the extension allows for additional training and enhances maritime capabilities in the region.
“This is a few more days over what the original plan was,” he said. “There’s two reasons: one is to conduct these additional training opportunities, and frankly, because a lot of what we’re doing there now is an effort to reassure our allies.”
The carrier left Norfolk, Va., to support maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of operations.
On the situation in Ukraine, Warren said the department continues to monitor situation “very closely” and continues to call on Russia to de-escalate the situation.
“Russian intervention in Ukraine, we’ve said all along, is a violation of international law and international agreements to which Russia is a signatory,” he said.
...one step closer.
The new Bath House Navy, on shore leave seeking some Turkish buggery?
From what I saw of seamen, it was always rum, sodomy, and the lash with those fellows.
Im former Navy and Im laughing at your Churchill line. Too funny!
Army Col/Sock Puppet Steve Warren
it seems possible, perhaps even probable, that the US/Israel will take the opportunity to ramp up the destruction of Syria while Ivan is focused on Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. And maybe some sort of 'trade off' will be on offer.
Speaking of Syria, I presume the nominated new ambassador will sail through confirmation. And who do we send to Syria?
Why a Hebrew speaking Jew, of course. The current head of State's intelligence dept, and probable Israel Firster.
Of course.
After all, we sent arch zios Indyk and Ross to represent we, the American people, for the sham Israel/Palestine peace talks, so why not have Jewish ambassadors to Syria, and well, just look who we had in Egypt...
Probably a dual national. Knowing how tight they are with money, it may be an attempt to represent both countries with one person.
When the USG speaks, is Israel writing the script?
"RUSSIA HAS HAD AND CAN HAVE NO PLANS TO INVADE SOUTHEAST OF UKRAINE - LAVROV
"Which seems to run counter to the following images pouring in from across Russia of even more firepower on the move."
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These are not necessarily contradictive. If Russian forces enter S/East Ukraine, whether it is an invasion or simply an ethnic Russian population protection measure is a subjective matter. We already know how the slimeball Kerry and his small army of venal yes-men across Europe will see it, but they are not the final arbiters.
Russia can't invade the Ukraine because Ukraine is part of Russia, it's an impossibility for a country to invade part of it's own territory. Ukraine is toast.
The world doesnt end untill it does.
Ill see you all in a few weeks when we break new highs for no reason.
Just in from Karkov. Right Sector gunmen shoot dead 2 pro Russian residents and wound 2 more. Here we go! Washington has sent it's paid Nazi's to start shooting the Russians in the East. Look for more shootings soon. It will all be Putin's fault.
our fucking media is so absurdly controlled I can't believe I went most of my life not noticing it.
I'd be very surprised if Western Ukraine isn't in play in the next week or two.
May as well spread the love....
I think Vlad Putin wants to retire and all of this is being staged. Maybe he wants to live in Montana and drive a pickup truck?
Where did my post go on Kenneth Feinberg? The act of terror payment Czar?
I said, if Kenneth Feinberg is looking for a new assignment, the American people are screwed.
This guy is pure Talmudic evil.
Mr. False Flag, Kenneth Feinberg.
HOPE HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY OPEN PURCHASE ORDERS FOR 2014!
I don't understand what has become of the stories about the honest to goodness ultra nationalists and fascists who were essentially given the shaft by the coup government installed by the US. Our Jewish ambassador, talking on the phone to our Jewish undersec of state, coordinating with a Jewish UN undersec [Feltman] and installing "Yats" who, it is now clear, is mostly of Jewish background - all in a country that is 0.7% Jewish but where much or most of the media is owned by the mostly Jewish 'oligarchs'.
While I think this is bizarre, I don't think it has much to do with the average/ordinary Jewish Ukrainian who will be precisely the people to suffer and be scapegoated once the idiot fascists realize just how fucked they've been by the Global Banking Empire. I mean, it's not as they aren't acutely aware of the the Jewish role in the Bolshevik conquest and starvation of Ukraine. It's largely whitewashed of course, but some truths are too hard to bury...
Nobody should ever have to pay for someone else's sins, but that is inevitably what happens when a tiny ethnoreligious community so dominates and abuses a people for so long.
I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum.
And I'm all out of kick ass.
The head rabbi in Ukraine and Ukrainian Jewish organisations have downplayed the anti-semitism. And the Israeli Ambassador recently met with the head of Right Sector to ensure they would distance themselves from anti-semitism, even though they are clearly a neo-nazi group.
OTTAWA — Police are investigating a bizarre stabbing that left a Russian diplomat lying about his wounds and an employee of the Canadian Forces naked inside an Ottawa apartment.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/14/russian-diplomat-found-stabbed-i...
bathouse barry probably popped a boner when he read about the naked canadian
Would be lame to start calling a Putin a New Hitler just now, wouldn't it?
Seems to me that a lead-up to the first major armed conflict of the nuclear age, and the first mysterious total vanishing of a jetliner, at the same time, is no coincidence.
I wonder if there could possibly be anything to this Sorcha Faal story: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1753.htm
According to which, MH370 carried a mysterious item of cargo, originating from a US-flagged freighter and guarded by a couple of ex-Seals, who then suddenly died.
Did the US try to fly a nuke to Beijing? Having Bejing go boom "because Terrorists" would have put a whole different spin on the Ukraine situation.
MH370 is probably now in a hangar on Diego Garcia, getting a respray job and presumably still with the same cargo onboard. Which makes me wonder if that plane might still put a different spin on things.
dont worry.... obama bought a nice pink sweater at the GAP and that will stop putin in his tracks.... meantime putin readies the HAMMER.... When will putin come to the "aid" of the Brighton Beach russians.... or more realistically Moldava, Belarus and .... why stop there??
Fwiw, the tanks appear to be T72's with additional bricks of reactive armour, i.e., not sending the T80's or T90's at present.