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Ukraine Says It Has Repelled A Russian Army "Invasion"

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With a day left until the critical, if widely expected, results from the Crimean referendum are revealed, it is worth recalling the main footnote in last night's State Department travel alert for Russia: "all U.S. citizens located in or considering travel to the border region, specifically the regions bordering Ukraine in Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod, Voronezh, and Rostov Oblasts and Krasnodar Krai, should be aware of the potential for escalation of tensions, military clashes (either accidental or intentional)." See, for the purpose of a military provocation, "accidental" will do. It is therefore not surprising to see that moments ago all major news wires blasted the following headline, quoting the Ukraine ministry of defense:

  • UKRAINIAN MILITARY REPELS ATTEMPT BY RUSSIAN FORCES TO ENTER REGION ADJACENT TO CRIMEA-UKRAINE'S DEFENCE MINISTRY

The incursion allegedly took place in the Ukraine region of Kherson, neighboring the Crimea.

Below is a video allegedly showing the Russian military helicopters involved in the incursion:

Here is the full google translated statement from the Ministry website:

Another provocation on the part of members of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation has failed.

 

Today, 15 March 2014, forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine halted the penetration of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the territory of Kherson Oblast from the "Arabatka." Response was made immediately.

AFP summarizes the incident as as follows:

Ukraine accused Russia on Saturday of invading a region bordering Crimea and vowed to use "all necessary measures" to ward off an attack that came on the eve of the peninsula's breakaway vote.

 

The dramatic escalation of the most serious East-West crisis since the Cold War set a tense stage for the referendum on Crimea's secession from Ukraine in favour of Kremlin rule -- a vote denounced by both the international community and Kiev.

 

The predominantly Russian-speaking Black Sea region of two million people was overrun by Kremlin-backed troops days after the February 22 fall in Kiev of a Moscow-backed regime and the rise of nationalist leaders who favour closer ties with the West.

 

President Vladimir Putin defended Moscow's decision to flex its military muscle by arguing that ethnic Russians in Ukraine needed "protection" from violent ultranationalists who had been given free reign by the new Kiev administration.

 

But Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had told Secretary of State John Kerry in London on Friday that Moscow "has no, and cannot have, any plans to invade the southeast region of Ukraine."

 

The invasion reported by the Ukrainian foreign ministry was small in scale and concerned a region that lies just off the northeast coast of Crimea called the Arabat Spit.

 

The Ukrainian ministry said 80 Russian military personnel had seized a village on the spit called Strilkove with the support of four military helicopters and three armoured personnel carriers.

 

The Ukrainian "foreign ministry declares the military invasion by Russia and demands the Russian side immediately withdraw its military forces from the territory of Ukraine," it said in a statement, "Ukraine reserves the right to use all necessary measures to stop the military invasion by Russia."

 

There was no immediate response to Ukraine's announcement from Moscow but Washington's UN representative Samantha Power called any new Russian troop movement in south Ukraine an "outrageous escalation".

So the official line is that the Ukraine repelled a Russian "military force" in a region inside east Ukraine and out of Crimea the day after Russia's foreign minister Lavrov said Russia has no plans to Invade Ukraine? Call us cynical, but something tells us if Russians wanted to "penetrate" east Ukraine, the would have done so without "being repelled."

Additionally, here is Reuters' take:

Ukraine's military scrambled aircraft and paratroops on Saturday to repel an attempt by Russian forces to enter a long spit of land belonging to a region adjacent to Crimea, Ukraine's defence ministry said.

 

"Units of Ukraine's armed forces today...repelled an attempt by servicemen of the armed forces of the Russian Federation to enter the territory of Kherson region on Arbatskaya Strelka," a ministry statement said. "This was repelled immediately."

 

It said the Ukrainian military used aircraft, ground forces and its aeromobile battalion in the operation. The territory in question is a long spit of land running parallel to the east of Ukraine's Crimea peninsula, now controlled by Russian forces.

But just so Russia isn't accused of being inert, moments ago it too re-escalate the war of words and provocations, either accidental or intentional, and stated that:

  • RUSSIA'S FOREIGN MINISTRY SAYS REQUESTS FOR DEFENCE OF PEACEFUL CITIZENS IN UKRAINE WILL BE CONSIDERED

Specifically, the Russian Foreign Ministry says in website statement that it will examine Ukrainians’ requests. Armed radicals are heading to eastern Ukrainian cities of Donetsk, Lugansk. Radicals provoked 2 deaths at pro-Russian rally in Kharkiv. The full statement is below:

On March 14 in Kharkov Ukraininan elements including the "Right Sector" arranged provocation against peaceful demonstrators who came to express their attitude to the so-called new government. As a result, the militants opened fire, killing two people, some were injured.

 

Of disturbing information that from Kharkov Donetsk and Lugansk left column with armed mercenaries "right sector" , whose leaders have announced the opening of the "Eastern Front" , and on one of the garment factories in Russia urgently sew uniforms.

 

At the risk of making the Verkhovna Rada of legitimizing the "right sector " and other radicals by converting them into system power structures like the National Guard

paid attention Secretary of State John Kerry Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov during their meeting in London on 14 March . of While Lavrov urged John Kerry to use Washington's influence on Kiev to curb rampant ultra- nationalists.

 

Russia To receive many calls asking to protect civilians. These applications will be considered.

Meanwhile in Crimea, the Russian flag is already flying above the Crimean Supreme Council:

And finally, just in case things weren't exciting enough, the US appears to finally be flexing its muscles too.

  • U.S. WARSHIP TRUXTUN TO CARRY OUT FURTHER EXERCISES WITH ALLIES IN BLACK SEA-COMMANDER

From Reuters:

The USS Truxtun, a U.S. guided-missile destroyer, will carry out more exercises with allied ships in the Black Sea, its commander said on Saturday, in a further sign of the international response to Russia's actions in Ukraine. Commander Andrew Biehn was briefing reporters aboard the 300-crew destroyer as it lay docked in a Bulgarian port.

 

The USS Truxtun last week took part in drills with Romanian and Bulgarian ships a few hundred miles from Russian forces that entered Ukraine's Russian-majority of Crimea after mass protests toppled the country's pro-Moscow president.

If all this has happened while it is still light in Ukraine and before the Crimean referendum, we can't wait until darkness falls on Sunday night.

 

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Sun, 03/16/2014 - 04:26 | 4554225 kashey
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So far I strongly opposed Putin and would be happy if he follows Kaddafi.
But after he lets Crimea back home to Russia - I would not evensupport his criminal persecution. Half of his sins are forgiven already, if he makes the rest of Ukraine federation with equal rights for both Ukrainians and Russians - I will forgive the rest of his sins.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:46 | 4552531 Jack Burton
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Crimea reports the incident in question was an attempt by some 40 people claiming to be Ukrainian border police to damage a gas transit station into Crimea. The local self defense forces of Crimea sent them packing without havong done damage. But, now Crimean authorities have asked the Russian Black Sea fleet to send forces to protect the transit station from any future attempts.

Just as a side note, I have been following CNN as I know this is the official Washington Media Outlet. What you hear on CNN is written in the State Department or Pentagon and passed to CNN to report as official state propaganda. Thus it is possible to judge from CNN that the USA is into this for a win. You have to know that this is a threat to us all. If this goes full retard, we could all be killed. Neocons in Washington are prepared to kill us all in order to expand NATO to East Ukraine. They will not accept taking just west Ukraine. They demand it all. This presents potential for full on nuclear exchanges. In the year 2014, this is madness of the highest order. Our American rulers are clinically insane. Obama is worse than ten Bush nut jobs. Bush beat the fuck out of helpless Arabs, Obama wants to tackle the number two nuclear power on earth. Obama, If I live through this, I will curse your fucking name all the way to my grave, you stupid fuck!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:33 | 4552864 resurger
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Lol

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:00 | 4552948 Johnny Cocknballs
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good stuff as usual, Jack, and I couldn't agree with you more about CNN.  US government, major corporate, and frankly Jewish/Zionist influence and control of major media is both obvious and difficult to overstate.

I can't imagine the internet is going to be left alone - 'alternative' media is a mixed bag, but anyone looking for the truth can often find it.  Recall how much that upset Joe Lieberman.

One thing I'd sort of asterisk is the distinction between the true neoconservatives and the Grand Chessboard types usually described as "Realists" although I think one could argue pretty successfully both that modern Realism or neoclassical is basically just corporate/banking imperialism - interventionism to benefit American/Western banking and corporations.

Anyway, in practice, there can be overlap between the goals of neocons and realists, but the single distinguishing feature, perhaps, is the Israel-centric focus of the neocons.  I've posted this link before, but it is an excellent overview of the origins of neoconservatism:  http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html

Each school of thought presupposes the virtues of militarism and interventionism, together they absolutely dominate American media/news coverage, and there is a kind of groupthink and echo chamber at work such that when Russia responds to Western interference, as clearly happened in Ukraine, the discussion, in a true Orwellian sense, regards the defensive action as aggression.

However, for people like Nuland and her husband, and the Bill Kristol's and Richard Perle's of the world - absolutely everything is filtered through the lens of Israel, and presumptively, the expansionist, Israel-can-do-no-wrong view of Likud.

Which is to say, for the neocons, more aptly described, truly, as Ziocons, Ukraine is assessed not primarily in terms of American unipolar dominance, but in terms of what it means for Likudnik Israel, which means Syria/Lebanon and Iran - states which frustrate Israel's ability to grab more territory and act militarily with no fear of repercussions.

Iran is not about nukes - Netanyahu has cried wolf on the matter for over 20 years, and the assessments of our own intelligence agencies have no overcome the meme of the non-existant "Iranian nuclear {weapons} program."    Iran's support for Hezbollah, the guerilla group which prevents Israel from invading and annexing much or most of Lebanon is one of the major, if not the primary consideration, in their view.

The neocon/Likudnik vision also envisions a "Greater Israel" which involved destroying both potential military and economic rivals to Israel in the Middle East and beyond.  http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-mid...

I still think it possible that US/NATO bluster in Ukraine could be used as a bargaining chip of sorts - NATO might stand down there if Russia agrees to stop backing Syria/Iran.  However, and on the other hand, in the view of warmongers like Zbig, a conflict with Russia is not only inevitable but necessary, and destabilization, and the use of mercenaries and special forces in several theaters at once is certainly on the table. 

But that would also mean tactical nuclear weapons are on the table.

What is certain is that there is no end in sight to war in which the United States will be fighting not for it's legitimate security, but to weaken economic rivals, and to act as the military proxy for the Zionist militarists who have for decades virtually dominated American foreign policy.

It is a manifestly stupid, expensive, and inhuman way to approach international affairs, and one that benefits the wealthy, and Israel, at the considerable expense of the American people whom, it must be said, seem not to particularly notice or care.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:37 | 4553747 zionhead101
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Zionist militarists who have for decades virtually dominated American 'Palestinian' foreign policy.

It is a manifestly stupid, expensive, and inhuman way to approach international affairs, and one that benefits the wealthy, and Israel, at the considerable expense of the American 'Palestinian' people whom, it must be said, seem not to particularly notice or care.

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Johnny, please you talk as if anybody on earth actually cared or sympathized with Palestine, USA, or Kiev HUMAN's, they don't they're not even human.

The USA public lost their right to think fucking almost 100+ years ago, not one fucking ZIO-NEO-CON on earth gives a fuck what Palestinian ( USA/KIEV ) person thinks. The USA is just a prison colony, a pool  of MERC's (US-MIL) to be used on call to do the biz on the ZIO-NEO con, hell the ZIO's have owned USA media since the 1920's in the USA.

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Johnny fuck the opinion the USA they are 'DEAD', focus on what EUROPE will do, what RUSSIA will do, and what CHINA will do.

Nothing matters about the USA, Palestine, or Kiev, they're already dead.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:50 | 4552539 q99x2
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Yaaaa Ukraine won. Its over. Did you BTFD?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 16:01 | 4552564 Chuck Knoblauch
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Esther was a whore!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 16:01 | 4552565 Chuck Knoblauch
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Happy Purim everybody!

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 16:39 | 4552663 Gadfly
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Tipi Livni Claims She Had Sex With Two Palestinian Figures, Erekat And Abed Rabbo And Threatens Them With Video Proof.

The chief Israeli negotiator and Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, said this week that she has had sex with the chief negotiator for the Palestinian Authority in the peace negotiations with Israel, Saeb Erekat and the Secretary of the Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Yasser Abed Rabbo.

Livni’s sexual misdemeanors have been the fodder of the political Arab rumor mill for years, but until now, what the foxy Israeli politician got up to behind closed doors was all guess work.

Lebanese newspaper Al Diyyar broke the story earlier this week that the Knesset Beauty had publicly stated that she and the chief Rabbi of Israel had decided that “It was ok for her to sleep and have sex with strangers, as long as it benefits Israel”.

According to Al Diyyar, Livni said :“The room where I had sex with Palestinian figures as Saeb Erekat and Yasser Abed Rabbo was equipped with cameras.”

She also confirmed that the videos show Palestinian officials, nude, having sex with her.

Livni is now threatening a number of Arab figures to post these shot videos on YouTube if they do not execute what she orders them.

The Israeli paper Yedioth Ahronoth republished an interview with Livini by Time Magazine in which she admitted that during her years working for the intelligence agency Mossad, she performed “special operations” — including having sex with prominent political figures and then blackmailing them. We’re sure it was “special” for both of you, Livni!

Yedioth Ahronoth quoted the Rabbi Ari Shefat as saying: ”The Jewish religion allows Israeli women to have sex with enemies to get important information that leads to their arrest”.

According to the Arab press, Livni has previously admitted that she doesn’t mind killing or having sex with someone in exchange for information that could benefit Israel.

Of course, the Palestinian people are very shocked from these allegations. Many are calling for the Palestinian leadership to respond to these allegations, which if proven, will certainly destroy the Palestinian Authority.

The Palestinian Authority is negotiating since 1993, for the Palestinian people to have an independent state on the territories occupied in 1967.

I think if Livini’s allegations are true, she should publish the video to prove her claims.

The Israel minister has previously admitted that she had sex with Arab leaders. She also admitted that she assassinated an Iraqi scientist in Paris, in addition to the assistant of one of the Palestinian revolution leaders, Khalil al-Wazir, in Athens. None of these allegations had been confirmed or proven either by videos or photos as she claimed.

However, her statements, this time, carry several meanings, one of them is to impose pressure on the Palestinian people to give up on their conditions for negotiations, most important among these conditions is East Jerusalem to be the capital of Palestine.

For sure, Livni’s declarations are the beginning of the storm. Certainly, more details on this regard, will be released in the coming days.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=92747

 

Holy fuck!  Is this for real?  Hard to believe someone can be so ruthless, Machiavelian and dsipicable.  So this is what we're up against.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:28 | 4552845 NuYawkFrankie
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re... Tipi Livni.... Knesset Beauty.....

Uuugghhh? That buck-tooth, crossed-eyed, fat-face hag?

I shudder to think what the rest of them look like! OMG!!!

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:45 | 4553054 mendolover
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Oooooof!  Looks like someone gave her a fresh one right in the kisser!  Oy that shnoz!

http://www.4law.co.il/gol007.jpg

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:54 | 4553086 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Might be better than a goat. I guess it depends on how cute the goat is.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:13 | 4553335 Berspankme
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I don't think I'd let her polish my knob, much less give her some bone

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:48 | 4554081 Tall Tom
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If them Palestinians are doing Goats and Sheep then maybe they gave her a dose of the Syphilis. That would be just.

 

I do not read in any Mosaic or Levitical Law that it is okay to commit adultery.

 

But they do not have to worry themselves as the New Testament declares tha for the sake of the Patriachs ALL ISRAEL shall be saved. As a Gentile I am grafted into the Tree of Life and I can be removed...pruned out.

 

But ALL Israel shall be saved. (Romans 11:25-32)

 

You can junk this post if you'd like. It will not change the Truth one jot or one tittle. Enjoy. Give me more incentive please.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:22 | 4554069 Setarcos
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Camels have got more style by far, of course unless you get an ugly one.  OK back to Livini, except she is ugly on the inside.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:51 | 4554083 Tall Tom
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LOL. That is funny...It is true.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:55 | 4553503 joego1
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I want a nasty little jewish princess
With long phony nails and a hairdo that rinses
A horny little jewish princess
With a garlic aroma that could level tacoma
Lonely inside
Well, she can swallow my pride

I want a hairy little jewish princess
With a brand new nose, who knows where it goes
I want a steamy little jewish princess
With over-worked gums, who squeaks when she cums
I don't want no troll
I just want a yemenite hole

I want a darling little jewish princess
Who don't shit about cooking and is arrogant looking
A vicious little jewish princess
To specifically happen with a pee-pee that's snappin
All up inside
I just want a princess to ride
Awright, back to the top...everybody twist

I want a funky little jewish princess
A grinder; a bumper, with a pre-moistened dumper
A brazen little jewish princess
With titanic tits, and sand-blasted zits
She can even be poor
So long as she does it with four on the floor
(vapor-lock)

I want a dainty little jewish princess
With a couple of sisters who can raise a few blisters
A fragile little jewish princess
With roumanian thighs, who weasels n lies
For two or three nights
Wont someone send me a princess who bites
Wont someone send me a princess who bites
Wont someone send me a princess who bites
Wont someone send me a princess who bites

 

Thanks Frank! You had it right!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:36 | 4553995 IridiumRebel
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Zappa for the win!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:54 | 4554085 Tall Tom
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And you can enjoy the music...Thanks Zappa.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDarQW7UZc

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 21:03 | 4553529 falconflight
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Sexual provocation and entrapment is a tried and true tool of statecraft.  What are you 13 years old or what?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:03 | 4553901 Gadfly
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Not at all.  A "tried and true tool of statecraft?"   But you have just established you are an amoral piece of shit.  

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:58 | 4554087 Tall Tom
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REDACTED...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:16 | 4554063 Setarcos
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So the "Harlot of Jerusalem".  When I were a lad the song went, "Once there was a pretty maid, A maid who made a roaring trade.  Once there was a pretty maid.  The Harlot of Jerusalem ......."

Whether or not that was true back then, UNholy fuck it's true of Livini.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 16:45 | 4552681 Jon Steed
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I doubt the Ukrainian army could fight a cold let alone repel the Russian armed forces. Too late now it's a done deal. Crimea falls under Russian protection Sunday. Any sanctions or seizing of Russian assets in the US will result in brics going full out retard with currency wars. Just like cyprus all the key players have positioned themselves for a win. Russian money is out of EU and US. Unfortunately it's the regular joes in the Ukraine that will be left going ... But you said.......... Sorry that was then this is now.

Cue

http://youtu.be/bxS9N-npE2Q

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 16:47 | 4552690 MarkAntony
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When I briefly lived and worked in the western region of Ukraine, Volynska Oblast, I met a retired colonel from the soviet paratrooper battalion that used to be stationed near the Polish-Ukrainian border. Being prior military we swapped a few stories and became friends. One evening, while contemplating the virtues of Ukrainian women and quality levels of local vodka, he told me a story how his XO would fly in cases of vodka and snacks to his forward CP, set up in a village near the base. Imagine this huge military attack helicopter landing on the edge of the village, noise-wind-crap flying all over the place scaring the shit out of the locals, and there out this shit pop out several paratroopers in full battle gear, carrying several cases of vodka and mineral water (Yodanka was best) and running it up to the colonel...  must have been priceless to see.

Looking at the above video, I'm willing to bet some colonel ran out of vodka on the skirmish line and had some supplies flown in with an escort. There's no liquor store in sight for miles...  and the "new and improved government" jumped at the op to call it "invasion"...

Crap.... can't even get a quite drink on the frontier anymore...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:01 | 4552752 syntaxterror
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I guess 'Food Stamp the Great' most likely had to alter his golf links and ncaa hoops plans this weekend. Or maybe not.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:07 | 4552775 Philalethian
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Have'a wee bit o Saturday dancing to the Boycott music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUbft5rX3J4

Please pass this one around.

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:34 | 4552842 Chuck Knoblauch
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Putin the Great could offer the Palestinians a new homeland in West Ukraine?

NOW THAT WOULD MAKE SOMEONE ANGRY!

And in return, Putin would become a Great man in the Muslim world.

Mr. President, Putin, please feel free to steal my idea.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:03 | 4553116 titty sprinkles
Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:34 | 4552813 blindman
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John Cale - Child's Christmas in Wales
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9IKnVVRsmk
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When mistletoe or candle green
To Halloween we go
Ten murdered oranges bled on board ship
Lend comedy to shame
.
The cattle graze bold uprightly
Seducing down the door
Settle for the meeting place
We have no place to go
.
Then wearily the footsteps forked
The hallelujah crowds
Too late but wait the long legged bait
Tripped uselessly around
Sebastopol Adrianapolis
The prayers of all combined
Take down the flags of ownership
The walls are falling down

A belt to hold
Columbus too, perimeters of nails
Perceived the Mama's golden touch
Good neighbors were we all
.
In Sevastopol kidnapped Greek-Catholic priest
15/03/2014, 21:20 | «BBC»
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/03/15/n_6014637.shtml
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv4-sgFw3Go

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:22 | 4552823 Johnny Cocknballs
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Is Ukraine actually an ally of the United States?

Is it an ally like Israel is an ally?

What fucking business is it of the United States?  I mean, the US has swung its dick around so long people have sorta just stopped asking the question.  Or maybe its that after Iraq and Afghanistan, the American people are prepared to accept any excuse they are given by the US government and the MSM echo chamber.  CNN is absolutely the worst - controlled by CIA minders and Zionist management.  Like Fox, which is a close second.

I was in Detroit around 2 months ago and went off the beaten track, deliberately, just enough to see if things were that bad.  I'm sure there's stuff on youtube that will give something of the same picture.  Detroit is worse than Washington D.C. away from the tourist areas. 

It's so bad I can't even laugh about it - it's a disgrace, it is literally saddening.

I wonder how many young men from Detroit will be involved in the next ginned up neocon war for Israel/petrodollar/private central banking.

 

The US has no business doing anything right now but cleaning up its own shit.  I can forgive the American people for not "rebelling" but why aren't there marches in the streets demanding an end to the interventionism, let alone the DHS/FEMA territorial army, no doubt still under the control of the usual suspects??

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:36 | 4552873 Gadfly
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Right on Johnny.  Couldn't agree more.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:46 | 4552900 blindman
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i recently discovered that you can go to youtube to see
people documenting their difficulties while taking a shit.
new age show business i guess? reality internet.
it is all some form of art, they call it rock.
see my post above concerning the duplicitous spy
vs spy, suicide by boris post.
and this bit ...
the government cannot win a war against-with its own
people but it can kill them off going to
war with a foreign "demon". this is the method
to get the citizens to kill themselves for
the glory and survival of their "own", very twisted
but it works. "it is a racket". s.b.(perpetrated by the owners)
watch for high degrees of emotion, hero worship
and magical thinking associated with "justified"
violence in the media. (it is full of it)
the us government creates a money system out of
thin air and gives it to an international banking
cartel monopoly and no one says boo. the "government"
will be recognised as insolvent when the monopoly cartel
has finished stealing and killing those who would
oppose them. there is a critical and fundamental
flaw in this entire arrangement and the last thing that
will be done is to correct that crooked flaw,
so cheers and on with the so what and so it goes. live

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:37 | 4553033 syntaxterror
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USA has no business in this really? So, via your foreign policy, any country that has Russian citizens should be able to choose to vote to secede in order to rejoin Mother Russia should they want to do so. How far does your foreign policy directive extend? Does it include Poland, Romania, the Baltics?

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:07 | 4553132 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Nice fallacy usage. Strawman and slippery slope combination. It must have taken you all day to come up with that.

Good job.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:17 | 4553350 Berspankme
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stunning display of ignorance

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:42 | 4553459 joego1
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How about they fight it out and we watch for once?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 06:35 | 4554280 silvermail
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"So, via your foreign policy, any country that has Russian citizens should be able to choose to vote to secede in order to rejoin Mother Russia should they want to do so."

Not any country. Only those countries, that Washington wants. Such as Serbia (Kosovo). LOL

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:26 | 4553729 zionhead101
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Well Johnny, every country on EARTH is a colony, OWNED by the tribe, and if its not clear that that country's "Leaders", then TEL-AVIV changes those leaders with the US-MIL(MERC's) owned by TEL-AVIV.

If ownership of a colony meant PROSPERITY than Palestinians would be living in Disneyland.

If you travel to Detroit, and then travel to 'occupied' Palestine, how different may I ask? Nada, ... same-same

It's a FOREGONE conclusion that everything ZIO-NEO-CON touches turns to shit.

WRT to your premise that the TRIBE should fix DETROIT, let me just say that DETROIT is a harbiner a bellwether of things to come to all of the USA, and to every ZIO-COLONY on earth.

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:29 | 4552839 NuYawkFrankie
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Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:59 | 4552945 Chuck Knoblauch
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W Ukraine to become the new Palestinian homeland!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:07 | 4552968 robertocarlos
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It was just like in the movie Stripes.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:14 | 4552985 DutchR
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Hello there, you little blue marble....

 

are you getting along?

 

There is a whole universe waiting

 

 

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:16 | 4552991 earleflorida
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'riddle me this?'

'they'll (insert USSA & NATO/UN or Russia [u b da jug?]) need to make a quasi hastily decision juxtaposed against a mosaic intransigent 'NWO`tilting-at-windmills' gone totally fucking-retard-- a nascent fascist/neo-nazi comradery zeitgeist, predicated upon hegemonic orthodoxy?

how does one digest, being forced-fed an ideological meal with a sour'd stomach, ulcer'd by usurpation...

twas, it not so long ago the colonialization of western rule was adhering to enslavement... this intoxicating feeling of being ringfenced by a opiate called freedom-- or is it the masters' whip stinging of a bete`noire vengeance that senses are guilty pleasure?

i feel a thrusting of paradoxical jingoism coming my way? knot(?) so long ago does the 'gordian`memory yarn', once again... craving a velvet panoply for rhetorical baptism... grown to often accustom'd to my braying bifurcated nervous and anxious laugh? 

so here we are today as the new cold/hot war heats up... so laden'd with past aggressions that revenge cannot keep-up, nor get out of the way fast enough to feel the nuclear-heat of so few, yet many millenniums of pent-up despair...

drinking ones' enemies blood, rinsed with a vipers' conium hemlock to finnish the deed-- the catharsis of a reject'd mutated mankind, best left swimming in the oceans with no land to spoil and ravage-- his lusting want of others carnage never aware of the incoming tide of the masters'plan?'

you decide?

jmo

thankyou Tyler  

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:18 | 4552996 Philalethian
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Looks like the donkey-kong war for the satanic banksters of the IMF/UN is moving closer to going hot.

"WASHINGTON — A record $100 billion in withdrawals of Treasury bills is raising speculation that the Kremlin and Russian oligarchs are yanking their money out of the United States to avoid upcoming sanctions over Ukraine."

http://nypost.com/2014/03/15/facing-sanctions-russia-yanks-100b-out-of-u...?

So ah, does this mean that in the plan to kill America's people and ALL her military forces, they will be warring in the the Ukraine with the Russians, AND in the USA because Martial Law is declared after the crash of the dollar in April, be warring with the Russians and Chinese in the USA also?

Who profits in war?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:49 | 4553069 Quus Ant
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I  believe nothing the government tells me now.  NOTHING. 

Put on your waders, kids.

Full spectrum bullshit has commenced.

 

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:24 | 4553182 jon dough
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.
"It said the Ukrainian military used...its aeromobile battalion in the operation."

Ooohh! Aeromobiles! Always wanted on of them thar thingies...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:02 | 4553289 NDXTrader
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So many of you...your fellatio of Putin is disgusting. The man is a thug... Just because he stands up to the US doesn't make him a hero. He's a tool of the oligarchs in his country. Same as the politicians in the US. Way too many Euro-weenies here. Your opinion doesn't really count as you've already fucked up the world a few times over

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:20 | 4553367 Berspankme
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good little sheeple. Keep your mouth open so the MSM can feed you dick

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 02:27 | 4554102 Tall Tom
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Since you lack a spine you autofellate. Putin is a THUG. So is OBAMA. So is Netanyahu. So is Christine Legarde. ALL OF THEM.

 

There is not one Government that stands for the myth of the Rule of Law. They are all corrupted to the core.

 

The MSM does not broadcast the little fact that there are Crime Families running Governments all over the World. The MSM does their damndest to cover up that fucked up fact.

 

It reads as you are doing the autofellation masturbation and drinking your own semen as the Kool Aid. You must be pretty damned spineless not to stand up and reveal the truth that the entire World is under Mob Rule.

 

Because it is. I cannot believe that there are fifteen other people whom are as spineless as you. But the OPs post just demonstrates the hopelessness of it all.

 

You are punching blind.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:20 | 4553369 nathan1234
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Keep going on your Illegal Crooked HFT Trading Mr NDX Trader

Forget us and what we think.

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:43 | 4553449 Gadfly
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Hollow empty emotional aruments.  Establishment tool/mouthpiece.  Stick to trading and trying to make money... while it lasts.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 02:33 | 4554103 Tall Tom
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I cannot remember anytime that the Main Stream Media has called Obama a THUG. You make the claim that he is parroting the establishment?

 

Show me one example of the Main Stream Media declaring that Obama is a thug. FDX Trader declared that Obama is a thug. Show me that he is parroting the MSM.

 

They are ALL THUGS. They are ALL Crime Family Bosses. ALL OF THEM. There is nobody respectable in the bunch of World Leaders. NOT ONE.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:44 | 4553461 Quus Ant
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I respect anyone who stands up to the western mono-culture vampire squid blood drenched juggernaut.

Anyone who does so puts themselves and their loved ones at great risk- when they could just take a boat load of cash

and play ball with the beast. 

Yeah, other than that he's a KGB fucktard. 

 

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 02:44 | 4554106 Tall Tom
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I have no respect for (Insert name of World Leader here). I have as much respect for the leader of the Crips and the leader of the Bloods as I do for (Insert Name of World Leader here). Neither deserve my respect as they are INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES.

 

Putin is the HEAD of a Criminal Enterprise who is getting greedy. Obama is another leader of an opposing GANG that is getting Greedy. This is a battle for TURF. It is a Gangland War...a Turf War.

 

CRIMINALS ARE NOT WORTHY OF ANY RESPECT. Both Obama and Putin are CRIMINALS. Every single Head of State in this fucked up World is A CRIMINAL.

 

NOT ONE WORLD LEADER IS WORTHY OF ANY RESPECT. They are WORTHY OF THE GUILLOTINE....THE GALLOWS.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:55 | 4553504 falconflight
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They're the dirty leftist swine that were throughout the USSR's history giving them the ole Rusty trambone/Dirty Sanchez.  I think the Ukraninans should consider a thermonuclear device for the Rus scum asses.  How many Ukranians died in Stalin's genocidial purge in 1932/33?  These posters likely also wanna suck off Hamas and Fatah and every other murderous Arab/Muslim group.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 21:02 | 4553528 Volkodav
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Stalin was not a Russian.

Soviet was not a Russian construct.

From 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control.

You show you know nothing about Russia.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:01 | 4553673 falconflight
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Hey dummy, the Poliburo was always predominately Russian and the State/Official language was Always Russian.  The Russians were always the 'ethnic' group sent to the republics to delute the local population.  Who the fck do you think you're fooling?  Are all you StormFront/David Duke/Louis Fraharkaan dickwads universally illiterate?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:08 | 4553945 Volkodav
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Your little ad hominem attack is not sign of intelligence.

 

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 05:34 | 4554287 silvermail
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I'm not advocating for Putin.
I just stand against the lies, aggression and hypocrisy from US side.

Just a decent person, it does not mean pro-Putin person, is not it?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:13 | 4554058 Gadfly
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You're trying to get as many down arrows as you can, right? 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:54 | 4554086 Setarcos
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Yes interesting.

Stalin was Georgian, not Russian.

Hitler was Austrian, not German.

Napoleon was Corsican, not French.

Oh and who knows Obomber's origins, but we sure know the origins of Ziggy, Kissinger and so many neo-cons who, e.g. via the PNAC, fake patriotism to disguize the fact that their origins and ambitions do not have anything to do with the common good.

There is a pattern here of foreigners being ultra-nationalistc to use a host country for their psychopathic personal ambitions.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 02:02 | 4554092 nathan1234
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Falconflight

If you can confuse Stalin for Putin you can take the next flight to Mars.

Maybe you would then confuse a Martian for Stalin too .

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:42 | 4553458 PatientZero
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My prediction:

Our group of assholes will further provoke their group of assholes and it (war or paranoia thereof) will be used to make Obama Eternal President Emperor-God Messiah that will deliver us from evil Conservatives, Libertarians, Patriots, Nationalists, Russians, and that evil racist homophobic anti-LGBTBBQ anti-Other Kin ablist Constitution.

Then the real fun will start.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:56 | 4553509 messystateofaffairs
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History shows you don't fuck with Russians. They are not braggadoucious like Americans, they are staid, tough as nails, and if put to the test they will go all the way.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:59 | 4553521 andrewp111
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Just a small Russian probe to test the enemy. A recon op. That's all this was.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 21:47 | 4553638 goldhedge
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99 red balloons floating in the summer sky...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:55 | 4553801 Philalethian
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Someone named Fraser dropped this powerful info-bomb in the comment section at Mr. Greg Hunter's site on his weekend report recently. It is a sheer pleasure to read such powerful truth that resonates more in the heart, than in the easily fooled brain. It just feels good. Big kudos and respect to you if you are out here under the tent of truth somewhere, Fraser. Thanks for sharing this.

***

Fraser: 3-15-14

Thanks Greg, great wrap as always…

If I may, I would like to point a few fingers (sorry it’s a bit long).

Peter Kershaw, in “Economic Solutions” lists the ten major shareholders of the Federal Reserve Bank System as: Rothschild: London and Berlin; Lazard Bros: Paris; Israel Schiff: Italy; Kuhn- Loeb Company: Germany; Warburg: Hamburg and Amsterdam; Lehman Bros: New York, Morgan: New York; Goldman and Sachs: New York; Rockefeller: New York. The balance of stock is owned by major commercial member banks.

The Council on Foreign Relations aka CFR (whose members include Bush (x2), Clinton (x2), Cheney, Obama, Kerry and every other important civil servant and politician running American today) was incorporated in New York on July 29, 1921. Founding members included (by no coincidence) “…such potentates of international banking as J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, and Jacob Schiff…” – in other words exactly the SAME CLIQUE which had engineered the establishment of the Federal Reserve System.

Bringing this together, quoting Baron M.A. Rothschild : “Give me control over a nation’s currency and I care not who makes its laws.” If correct, it follows that America and its Constitution have been hijacked by the unelected putsch who established both the FED and the CFR and which now control both America’s currency and its political agenda. On this subject, I note Hillary Clinton’s speech (as the powerful Secretary of State) bowing down before the CFR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYq3TaBik64

My favourite FED / CFR cabal “conspiracy facts” are:

[1] The very existence of the Federal Reserve Note is a conspiracy, because they can make huge profits by creating money out of thin air and then lending it to the Government at interest. Thomas Edison wrote in the New York Times: “Any time we wish to add to the national wealth, we are compelled to add to the national debt. Now, that is what Henry Ford wants to prevent. He thinks it is stupid, and so do I, that… people who will not turn a shovelful of dirt nor contribute a pound of material will collect more money from the United States than will the people who supply the material and do the work”.

[2] Jim Marrs in his book Crossfire identified the fact that JFK, by the issuance of Executive Order 11110 tried to transfer power from the Federal Reserve to the Treasury Department by replacing “Federal Reserve Notes” with “Silver Certificates” and “United States Notes”. However on the eve of success, the Order was stopped by his assassination, which he then proves(?) was carried out by the CIA on instruction from the CFR. This at least makes more sense than a lone gunman with a “magic bullet”. On this subject, I also note JFK’s attack on “secret societies”, which was reported at the time as being directed at the CFR :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CJArkuWCQ

[3] While the CFR orchestrates America’s agenda through aid programs, NGOs, covert operations, market manipulations, the military and wars– they are all being paid for by the Government – with debt borrowed from the Federal Reserve – which is then owed back to members of the CFR – with interest! . Furthermore, (to some extent) this influence can be bought by making umm, err, “donations” to the CFR. Hey Saudi Arabia – want war in Yemen? – no problem, we’ll have the Government send around the sixth fleet at the tax payer’s expense – just donate a couple of billion bucks here!

This is one of the fundamental reasons why America has a bloated military and the wars NEVER stop – because (apart from needing to defend the dollar) the FED / CFR cabal make money on the Government’s debt. In fact, the CFR want every American in as much debt as possible and paying interest to them. And when the public defaults, the CFR banksters take their assets.

[4] Through its banker members Morgan, Warburg et al, the CFR engineered the “pump and dump” leading to the 1930’s depression and made fortunes from it. Then they proceeded to buy up the world at depressed prices and thereby establish their global power. (The fact that CFR members made fortunes throughout this time period is history, not “conspiracy”).

Today we have another group of criminal inside traders and market manipulators taking over the world and keeping out of jail. Their leader is been Ben Bernanke – another active CFR member – who claims to have studied the events surrounding the 1930s carefully. The fact that Ben and the CFR know exactly what is going is undisputed, because they have done it all before!

I believe that QE is the (5-year) “pump” that has created the “bubble to end all bubbles” and its untimely exit will be the “dump” that causes the “crash to end or crashes”. After that crash, the public debt that was created by the QE program will then become repayable to the Federal Reserve and the CFR. This will result in the bankruptcy of the American Government and its private citizens. All remaining assets will either be confiscated or taxed to nothing. Within five years, America will be fully owned and controlled by the core members of the CFR and Federal Reserve.

[5] Concurrently, the CFR are on record as wanting to disarm the American public, which (I believe) is so that their “coup” will be as peaceful as possible.

[6] Finally, the saddest thing is that there is no-one to alert the public and report this corruption, because the “free press” has been corrupted as well.

In summary, to understand American actions, we only need look at what is good for the CFR – which is massive public debt and the continuation of the Federal Reserve Note as the world’s Reserve Currency. Unless stopped, I believe that the CFR will continue on to loot the whole planet. In the end, Americans must either stand up to this tyranny, or face their own destruction.

And so I say again, hang up signs and join protests to IMPEACH OBAMA and bring back PCR and Ron Paul (with bullet-proof vests) to clean out the CFR rats nest that currently forms the American Government. Because Obama is just another CFR puppet and therefore is an immediate danger to us all (please note the date):

http://www.wnd.com/2008/11/80686/

Then again, as PCR says, it may be too late because America is already Lost.”


Weekly News Wrap-Up 3.14.14:

http://usawatchdog.com/weekly-news-wrap-up-3-14-14/

 

And wham bam thank you again, sir. The truth as plain as Jane in the face of any intelligent being that can read. Will the world's little people allow this all to continue on? Are we a self-respecting People? Life, or death? It is pretty darn simple. Choose well.

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:39 | 4553887 Setarcos
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The truth as plain as Jane?  Not so for the teeming millions who believe nonsense like "Obama is a Commie), as I saw for the umpteenth time in a recent ZH comment, to which I replied:

FFS drop the Obomber socialist/commie/liberal/etc. nonsense

You and a myriad others got SO brainwashed and ill-educated over the decades that you use ridiculous labels, with not a clue as to their actual historical meanings.

In fact Obomber is the talking head for the fascist MIC and generally the private corporations - especially the banks - which own Washington DC.  In a socialist context the state would own the corporations instead of vice versa.

I'm not arguing which is ultimately better - especially because both are based in the premis of unlimitted growth on a finite planet - but discussion is impossible when terms are Orwellized to 'mean' the opposite, or nothing at all beyond inflammatory rhetoric.

BTW your piece is about spot on I think.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:15 | 4553954 zionhead101
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Then to add insult to injury the MSM say's "OBAMA is a MUSLIM"

 

Pleeze nobody has killed as many MUSLIMS in the last 20 years than OBAMA,

 

Obama was put in power by ZIO-NEO-CON for one reason, to put a black face on GENCOCIDE,

Cuz face like Dan Quayle, or GW BUSH doesn't look good when you kill brown people.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 03:25 | 4554140 Setarcos
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Yeah I was going to add "Muslim" but I thought that that would make it too complicated for the average lumpen to understand, though they've swallowed "Islamo-fascist", despite the fact that no Islamic country has a military/industrial complex/private corporations running the state, least of all Palestine, nor Libya, nor Syria, nor Iraq, nor anywhere where the Washington Empire has entirely destroyed the state, in favour of the global spectrum dominance of the MEGA STATE ruled from Washington DC.

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 03:39 | 4554161 zionhead101
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What you just said is way beyond the minds of 90% of the kids here, the majority here are only here for the circle-jerk, its the best action they get in their entire miserable lives.

But keep up the good work, and keep repeating what you just said, cuz its of course true.

We can NOT beat them (AIPAC) with rocks, we can't beat them with bombs, but we can sure as hell insult them and call them what they are, e.g. twats, man-whores, and girly-boyz, ... I'm talking about Obama, and all those who 'pretend' to run WASH-DC.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 04:09 | 4554191 Setarcos
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Well I just tried to post some more hard-hitting stuff in ZH, but I get:

Access denied

You are not authorized to access this page. Naughty me!  I mentiioned Sion ists and fake juice. Gotta be careful what words you use, even in ZH it seems.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:23 | 4553852 pn17
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Wonder how high the S&P will be the second Putin says the word "diplomacy". 1950?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:41 | 4554003 Gadfly
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You gotta see/hear this:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=92824

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:08 | 4554050 ArrestBobRubin
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Gee where do the "Ukrainians" get their penchant for The Big Lie I wonder???

The Jewish Gas Chamber Hoax - YouTube

Spielberg's Hoax - The Last Days of The Big Lie - YouTube

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:17 | 4553959 are we there yet
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My secretary is a Ukranian born US citizen, who today is in Almity Kazakistan sort of in southern Russia, until next friday on a sales trip for me. I hope Russia stays calm at least until then.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:21 | 4553965 FredFlintstone
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You lucky SOB.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:27 | 4554067 Volkodav
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Almaty Kazakhstan not Russian Federation  but some distance south ..actually next to China.

Many Russian in Almaty... 

Better learn your geography so don't misplace your employee..

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 02:50 | 4554112 are we there yet
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Yes, on the seacost of the Caspian sea. Yes there are nice Rusans there that I know, but many are uncomfortale with the muslem trends there. I will have pictures of Almity when she returnes next friday.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 03:09 | 4554132 Volkodav
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You better find her...........cos Almaty is not on Caspian..

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 17:22 | 4556136 are we there yet
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Wow, I stand corrected, it is on the border with Kyrgyzstan. But I have received a skype call from her at her hotel so she is ok.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 05:11 | 4554269 mc225
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kazakh women are beautiful. 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:33 | 4554073 A Dollar Short
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Nothing really changes as new players are arranged for the moment of monetary need.. So goes Ukraine, as did Kosovo.

Banker's rule.  One World Order created the WTO.  There is no separating anything, anymore.  We are one. The new 39 yo PM was head of Central Bank.

Understanding who controls you, is your first step to freedom.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 03:17 | 4554139 dreadnaught
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Stop beind suckered by the MSM and other dolts: Crimea is largely ethnic Russian and will vote to become part of Mother Russia

And the Ukraine was taken over by Nazi leaning Slobs who are funded by Israel, EU, and the USA. THe Ukraine is made up of 4 large ethinic groups......and the US wants to exploit the differences to make them another "USA Ally"  more war for your taxpayer dollars and for nothing

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 04:53 | 4554252 Leraconteur
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Stop beind suckered by the MSM and other dolts: Crimea is largely ethnic Russian and will vote to become part of Mother Russia...

 

The problem you reflexive pro-Russian posters have is this:

I LIVE IN ASIA.

I barely watch ANY television and when I do it's all in Chinese and the big story is that missing Malaysian aircraft.

I don't watch but one hour a week of any MSM USA media or tv or hulu or such on YouTube and that's usually some meme to keep up on what stupidity you folks are into this week.

In fact I watch or surf to RT more often than other sources.

Understand?

My point of view is from seeing your Lubyanka shilling, which was transparent from day one and if you read my comment history you will see I pointed this out early and often.

I don't even KNOW who is on MSM 'news' in the USA any longer after 6 years gone.

Your biased nonsense can be short-versioned to this:

Russia can do anything, but if anyone else does it, it's conspiracy, evil, unjustified and meddling. 

You pro-Russia guys are full of shit, and my non-exposure to USA MSM has me seeing things far more clearly than you.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 06:34 | 4554312 silvermail
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If you allow the right of the U.S. to do what they want, then be prepared for the fact that Russia, too, will do what they want. Otherwise in the US ass will  Russian Poplar Forest.

You pro-US guys are full of shit, and my non-exposure to RT has me seeing things far more clearly than you.

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 09:45 | 4554547 Leraconteur
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You idiots, I am neither - I simply point out your bullshit.

If it's bad when the USA does it, then it's bad when Russia does it.

Too difficult to grok?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 10:16 | 4554611 nathan1234
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And sure no crime has been committed by Wall Street bankers as none of them have been put behind bars. They are all angels who dont do manipulation, no scams, no frauds,

And you believe in fairies.

And as your name suggests you tell stories. But dont know facts

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 04:43 | 4554231 Leraconteur
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Call us cynical, but something tells us if Russians wanted to "penetrate" east Ukraine, the would have done so without "being repelled."

 

Finland managed to repell Russian forces.

I know that the Conspiracy Theory brain-washing is nearly 100% here, but it IS possible, probable and likely that The Russians are actually the bad guys, lying, and invading. Everything is NOT controlled from Foggy Bottom or Langley.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 07:10 | 4554337 overmedicatedun...
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this is not invasion of russian troops, this is just migrants crossing evil borders, look at how well we treat migrants here in our ussa from the south. this is a basic human right to migrate across any border.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 05:29 | 4554285 news printer
Sun, 03/16/2014 - 07:50 | 4554370 silvermail
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I wonder how long it will be before these people in Donetsk, will kill the Nazis, just as the Nazis were killing people in Kiev?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlaxaumUAZM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlaxaumUAZM

I specify, Donetsk - is not the Crimea. But the power of Kiev fascists, people in Donetsk also do not recognize.

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